Fri 27 Jul 2007
Everyone is up in arms about some old French fart (no disrespect to my French people who keep it vrai, lol) who is basically said that he didnt like how his clothing line was so…um…”ethnic” (his words)
“Somewhere, the company was running too much in some direction, too much in hip-hop stuff,” Mr. Girbaud, 62, told the Transom (perhaps taking a page from the playbook of a compatriot who last year expressed disdainful befuddlement toward rappers’ loyalty to the Champagne label Cristal). He was wearing a black-collared shirt over baggy black jeans, which were adorned with a single drooping silver chain that smacked against his knee as he strode through the streamlined space. “To be just connected in the hip-hop stuff is other brand; there is people like Russell Simmons or Damon Dash or Puff Daddy or all this kind. I’m not the rap people. Sure, we introduced the baggy jeans, we introduced stonewashed and all this stuff in the 60’s or 70’s, I never target just to be ethnic. It’s stupid.”…….
When it comes to his own self-expression, Mr. Girbaud seems to think that the exigencies of marketing are cramping his style. “I have to talk like that”—he flashed a gang hand-sign—“and speak like that”—he flashed another gang hand-sign—“and move like that”—he grabbed his crotch—“and it’s ridiculous!” Now he was shouting. “What we bring into the market was always innovative, and I feel now I am trapped and I have to just talk the same way, like I have to have skulls and some kind of snakes.** It’s boring, it’s really boring!”
The reason why the whole interview didnt get my panties in a bunch is simple….For one thing……
Girbaud is clearly an idiot. And the hip hop imitations should get him punched in the face. But he needs to be mad at his own damn company because they’re the ones who are desperately trying to market to “the rap people.” I see that big ol’ weird-ass Marithe and Francois Girbaud billboard on 125th street all the time. But meanwhile….”the rap people” have long since moved on to other coveted brands. Even traditional urban brands by Puff Daddy and Damon Dash and Russell Simmons are no longer hot with the more fashion-forward hip hop consumers. Its all about streetwear now, and even that is getting stale. (ironic t-shirts and rainbow brite nostalgia gear be gone)
But more importantly…..
Why do we constantly expect the old, disconnected, owners of the brands we support to love us back? Especially when half the time, the whole detachment between their world and our world is what attracts us to their brands in the first place. (ie. Polo ski goggles and LV yacht shoes.) Why did Jay-Z launch that stupid campaign against Cristal when their CEO didnt fawn over his rap clientele the way Hennessey and Olde English have. Did you drink it because you felt some psychic connection with Louis Roederer? No, you drank it because it was the fanciest, most expensive, most-reputable pisswater you could find. And if it was specifically marketed to you, Hov, you wouldnt touch it with a 10-foot straw in a jelly jar. Which is why I’d bet that his lips never touched nare drop of Sizzurp or even Armadale for that matter. (and dont even get me started on that ridiculous scam to make us switch over to “the gold bottle.”)
I think there’s a big difference between a brand being snobby, and a brand being racist. Snobby is, we don’t need you. Racist is, we wont allow you to buy our stuff (ahem, Hermes), or we’re gonna make money by making fun of you (ahem, Abercrombie and Fitch). Anyways, sorry to vent : )
**actually, I gotta agree on this one. Skull n snakes are dead and stinking. Sucks for me cause I’m wearing one on my blog photo.
July 27th, 2007 at 5:32 pm
he’s clearly racist…fuck him and his clothes..
July 27th, 2007 at 8:16 pm
Who wears Girbaud anymore? That shit went out in 96-97….
They had their run, but dude is a moron.
July 27th, 2007 at 10:27 pm
He is way too late with this stupid stuff…Juvenile and the Hot Boys made wearin Girbaud relevent to the hip-hop community way back in the day.
July 27th, 2007 at 11:10 pm
c we as black ppl just don’t learn.after this old racist red neck pieace a shit caked off a black ppl he got the nerve 2 say that shit.that’s the reason we should support our black owned businesses .I can also say proudly i’ve never bought n e of this french frogleg eating mafuckas clothes.that’s purely by coincidence .jus like cristal,i’ve never drank it.I prefer perrire jouet myself.yea, its french but that’s what they’re known 4.shop black where u can get it back.
July 28th, 2007 at 1:11 am
not a fan…
July 28th, 2007 at 5:09 am
Same Shit, Different Day…
July 28th, 2007 at 11:20 am
Okay time to set the record straight!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I work for the man the myth the legend, and I have one thing to say about the entire thing HIS WORDS WERE TURNED AROUND!!!!!!!!!!!! If you read what he said he’s right he doesn’t want to go in one direction for the brand. THAT MAKES SENSE, he isn’t a hip-hop (whatever that may be) brand and we don’t have a big Rapper sitting at the top of our company. I’m defending him because I work with him, know him, RESPECT him, and know that what he said was not a cheap shot at black people. It was the truth in the sense of business nothing more nothing less. We as a people need to worry about the war and why our brothers and sisters are dying over there instead of an interview being misunderstood. Oh and by the way yes I am AFRICAN AMERICAN.
July 28th, 2007 at 5:50 pm
Miss Info I agree with everything you said especially about Jay Z. These people are not even in the same era as us. Thats like asking my grandma about rap. U hit the nail on the head about that one.
July 29th, 2007 at 12:03 am
@nikki,I don’t buy what u saying.takehip hop out of tht equation ,he would not have caked that much.ppl for some reason want 2 wear what their favorite rapper wears instead of being their own individual even white ppl.we[hiphop]did’nt pull his brand in our direction u cater 4 whoever wearing yo shit.he should b happy his shit was selling period no matter who buying.black ,white,indian whoever.his shit is available 2 the public well we part a that 2.
July 29th, 2007 at 1:50 am
I agree with Nikki my only thing is if he doesn’t like the brand being stuck with one crowd then why doesn’t just go left and put something different out. And maybe that has been done but with fashion there is fads and trends that comes with the territory. When something becomes popular then everybody jumps on it and if a company has any sense they should capitalize.
July 29th, 2007 at 2:56 am
@nikki stop being a house ni##a, he is a racist and Girbaud is played out. And you you can tell him I said that. Girbaud=South pole
July 31st, 2007 at 6:42 pm
1) I’m black
2) I’ve recently gotten into the clothing industry (still learning)
3) I’ve followed fashion seriously for about the past 5-6 years
NEWSFLASH!!! a LOT of what Girbaud was saying is being misinterpreted because firstly he’s french and his english is very literal so his words are being taking out of context a bit.
I’m not gonna question whether he’s racist or not because Ralph Lauren, Tommy Hilfiger and countless other designers have made similar remarks in the past and every1 in here has bought at least 1 piece of clothing from those brands.
The gist of what he’s trying to say is that his company was making clothes that (at 1 point) the Hip Hop audience loved (mostly because it was contrary to what other designers were putting out at the time). Girbaud had baggier cuts than CK and was more expensive than Guess.
But after a certain point when every1 in Hip Hop starts wearing the same brand it gets corny because it’s lost it “new-ness” or “exclusiveness”. A few examples
Polo then Hilfiger then Versace then Coogi then Iceberg then Throwbacks etc.
He’s trying to say that they found success with the hip hop crowd but they were wrongly being represented as SOLELY a hip hop brand. Phat Farm, Sean John, Rocawear those are SOLELY hip hop clothing brands. Girbaud makes a WHOLE collection of clothes…pick up any European version of popular fashion mags and you’ll see brands like Boss, Girbaud, Iceberg etc. make lots of ready to where stuff that u don’t really see over here (at least in advertisements).
I’m not a big fan of the stuff he makes now but I see what he’s trying to say. He feels like he has to make his clothes a certain way because of his early success with the hip hop/ urban market and he’s lost his ability to experiment and try new things because the current buyers won’t accept that from his brand.
It would be like if Phat farm started trying to make high quality leather purses and selling them at the same price points as LV……NO1 would buy it no matter how good the leather was or how well designed it was. NO1 would see Phat Farm as the type of company that can get away with selling a handbag for 1400.00….and I guess the same is happening to Girbaud.
I think dats where all the frustration is coming from. But on the same token GIRBAUD can always start a whole new line, call it something different and make the kind of clothes he wants. So it is a bit a crying and complaining but I don’t see it as racist. It’s more like SCAPEGOATING.
July 31st, 2007 at 6:45 pm
sorry for that essay above….I shoulda broke it up a lil more cause I know every1 is not gonna read everything in there…too damn long….lol.
July 31st, 2007 at 7:05 pm
oh I 4got @ Miss Info….
I think Armadale was like a Swiss Vodka house that Jay and Dame first started drinking when they were going to vacations in Europe. They liked it so much they decided to buy a stake in the company. But I’m pretty sure the brand itself was in existence long b4 Jay and Dame….
Not trying to come at u hot or anything tho.
And by the way…I agree with the fact that were run toward things that are not connected to us. I guess its part of the HIP HOP culutre’s way of always evolving and pulling ideas from other places and making it our own….
example: Sampling diff music, wearing high end brands but wearing it in untraditional ways (Pharell, K. West, Andre3000) etc. Once again I think the whole GIRBAUD thing wasn;t coming from a racist space but it was sounding a lot like SCAPEGOATING & COMPLAINING.
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March 29th, 2010 at 10:18 pm
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