Wed 21 Oct 2009
50 Cent reveals alot to Complex: Dr. Dre working with The Game, “Marcy Jay” vs. “Oprah Jay”, and more
Posted by Miss Info under Beef , Crony-ism , Hmmm? , Quotes , Relationships and Family , Things I Like[147] Comments
wow, even with the swineflu (jk :), the homie Joe La Puma comes thru with a great 50 Cent interview on Complex.com. 50 cuts straight to the chase…on topics like, his unspoken but palpable frustrations with Dr. Dre:
Complex: Is there tension between you and Dre?
50 Cent: There’s no tension. There will never be a beef between 50 Cent and Dre. And it’s not based on 50 and Dre’s relationship, it’s based on Eminem and Dre’s relationship. My relationship with Em is what Em’s relationship is to Dre. If I was to say something disrespectful to Dre, it would effect Em and I value that relationship too much. So I won’t say anything, I’ll never say anything negative about Dre.
Complex: Does it bother you that it can take Dre so long to mix your records?
50 Cent: Oh no, that’s just him as a producer. He takes his time. He loses interest in shit… He’s great, but he loses interest in himself at points. So the making of the record at this point is motivation. He’ll tell you himself that that’s what he feels.
Complex: How do you feel about him working with Game?
50 Cent: I don’t care. It’s better that you shut up sometimes than for you to actually express your judgments when you’re close to home.
And then, 50 comments on this growing “situation” with Jay-Z….
Complex: …Much has been made of [Jay-Z]’s comment that “no one is afraid of 50 Cent.” Regardless, it seems like the general public agrees that Kanye wouldn’t have pulled that stunt if you were on stage instead of Taylor Swift…
50 Cent: He wouldn’t…If I was there and he did that to me we would have had an altercation. Right there. It’s clear. He [Kanye] would have avoided that, just being intelligent. The interviewer who asked [Jay-Z] about the Kanye situation made him feel like a punk. His presentation is really simple and you can’t have both. You can’t be gangster Jay from Marcy and be the good guy Jay-Z on Oprah. You just can’t. They don’t let you in. That’s Mr. Knowles, he just got that pass. There ain’t any tickets to an inauguration ball with niggas. If you’re from the hood, you have that element or that aura around you, there’s no tickets for you. It’s “safe” people there. This is why those things are happening. This is why he has to convince the person that he’s talking to he’s not afraid of anyone.
Wow. Mr. Knowles. Make sure you read the rest of the 50 Cent interview here, but after the jump, one more quote…50 tells the story of his first meeting with Diddy, and the gun that scared Puff away, lol…
Complex: Shifting gears, in your VH1 Behind The Music episode, there was a part that talked about Diddy taking a meeting with you, and him getting shook because you brought a gun to the office…
50 Cent: This is what happened. Jennifer Lopez told Puffy that I was a great writer because Corey Rooney signed me to Columbia Records. Jennifer had been exposed to my material, so she told Puff she thinks I’m somebody he should work with. I came down to write and I was in there writing a couple of joints and Puff left the actual room. There was rustling and rambling at the door and shit like that. I jumped up—when you get hurt as bad as I got hurt, either your fear consumes you or you become insensitive. So I jumped up and figured “as you come through the door, I’ll shoot your ass down right there in the door.” The paranoia heightens your senses. You start to see every little detail, every little thing. You don’t want to miss anything and have it turn out there’s someone shooting you again. When I heard the rambling outside, I jumped up, I had a Mac-10 on me. Pulled the joint out and Puff came in and looked, said, “Oh shit, I can’t do this.”As a matter fact, it was Shyne and Wolf, wrestling outside. Puff was going through that actual case when he called me in to write and I’m in his office with a Mac-10. He was like, “I can’t do that.” After the fact, I looked at it and was like, That’s a legitimate call.
October 21st, 2009 at 1:58 pm
I don’t blame 50 for having his opinions cuz after a while it feels like some interviewers ask questions looking for that reaction. And 50 has no problem going in on it. All that “Mr Knowles” stuff and “Marcy vs Oprah Jay” wasn’t needed to answer the basic question but 50 loves playing with a media that loves to play with him.
October 21st, 2009 at 2:06 pm
Complex does good interviews…
That Puffy story is pure comedy!! I would have loved to be a fly on the wall when he pulled the mac 10 out hahahaha
There is still no one more entertaining in hip hop then Rick Ross he’s on another planet.. Gotta love that dude.. But 50 is still pretty funny himself
October 21st, 2009 at 2:08 pm
The album drops in December right???
His process is about to start……
October 21st, 2009 at 2:11 pm
“That’s a legitimate call”
Ya think!!!????
October 21st, 2009 at 2:13 pm
LMAO, I LOVE THE “MR. KNOWLES” PART!! PEOPLE CAN SAY WHAT THEY WANT…BUT…JAY AND BEYONCE DID UPGRADE EACH OTHER STATUS.
YEAH, JAY WAS POPULAR BEFORE BEYONCE BUT IT TOOK HIS POPULARITY TO A WHOLE OTHER LEVEL WHEN HE BECAME THE “GUY WHO BAGGED BEYONCE”…AND SHE GOT SOME STREET CRED AS WELL.
SH*T KANYE LOOKED SCARED TO SIT NEXT TO 50 AT 106&PARK WHEN THEY HAD THAT CD DROP BATTLE INTERVIEW LOL…WHO JAY TRYING TO FOOL!
October 21st, 2009 at 2:15 pm
50 Cent has to maintain his tough guy image and never grows as an artist/man. Jay-Z did grow as a artist/man, that bothers 50 Cent. 50 feels insecure, so he makes fun of people to make himself feel better.
50 Cent will never be what Jay-Z is. Jay-Z did it the right way, clap for him. lol
October 21st, 2009 at 2:21 pm
honestly if jay was still jay from marcy, i’d be concerned…being that hes 40 and has hundreds of millions lol
October 21st, 2009 at 2:25 pm
LOL! good point
October 21st, 2009 at 2:29 pm
o and does anyone else get that vibe from JAy??? Like you could approach him with some disrespectful talk??
October 21st, 2009 at 2:32 pm
I agree. But I think another major part is u always take shots at sum1 n da number 1 spot. Fif has taken random shots at ppl when they gain success just 2 say hey dnt 4get about me just like his thing with Wayne Jay n Ye. Fif is kinda angry at the fact that “Gangsta Rap” became semi corny and ppl not in that same mindset anymore its all about makin gud music. So Fif just needs 2 move on from that bcuz Criticism is a currency and he sounds like a republican when u dnt like anything anybody does unless it involves u.
October 21st, 2009 at 2:33 pm
“ONLY TIME THEY EXCITING IS WHEN THEY MENTIONING SHAWN”
“See a single white female but she dyed her hair blonde
Sometimes i look at these rappers, the movie remind me of them
somebody turn these boys off
don’t they know that i’m on
Can’t they see that it’s foolish to try and kill me with songs
what the fuck are they doing, they kill me softly
You talk me to death, only thing you can do to him
I open the door for them, what else can i do
These nigga’s want me to walk for them, somebody talk to them
Before i go off on them”
I’m in the hall already, on the wall already
I’m a work of art, im a wall-hall already
On another level, on another plane already
H-O-V i got my own lane already (already)
I done cut up the rock already
So why the fuck can’t ya’ll get hot already (already)
Put your name in the pot already, then you can compare me to biggie and PAC already
Like im gone already and i am nigga i’m already home already
If ya’ll can’t already see i aint worried about ya’ll cos i’m already me
Do you already, enough of the complaining bo-who’s already.
Eat food already, aint nothing given you gotta claim your shoes already.”
I don’t know who 50’s racing Hovs at the finish line with the flag already waving
Doesn’t this guy 50-cent have his own album to be pushing he sure spends alot of time taking about other peoples work. 11 # 1 albums in a row who better then young!
October 21st, 2009 at 2:34 pm
Have you seen some of 50’s friends/business assoicates?
50 plays the tough role for this entertainment game but the fact is him and Jay both have grown. 1 guys more laid and 1 guys more out going.
It’s all a game.
October 21st, 2009 at 2:36 pm
Preach!
October 21st, 2009 at 2:36 pm
He’s becoming the Sarah Palin of Hip-Hop lmao. Statin random truth according to him which only a small number of ppl gonna agree with and u alienate urself from reasonable discussion when u negative 24/7 and taking shots at the leader bcuz u want attention and ppl 2 listen 2 u.
October 21st, 2009 at 2:40 pm
COSIGN! probably the best 50 comment I’ve herd in a while both Matt and Ahmad
October 21st, 2009 at 2:41 pm
50 need stop fronting
he knows he wants be were jay-z
Jay-z has showing growth in all parts of his life on like 50 who is stuck on try keep it real.
October 21st, 2009 at 2:44 pm
he didn’t really say anything crazy in regards to the Jay-Z situation. What he’s saying is true. Jay isn’t marcy jay-z anymore…not that he doesn’t have it in him but the public doesn’t recognize that in him right now. Thats why he gets the “passes” that fif is speaking on. And so in the interview Jay just kind of had to remind people…he has song on his album trying to do that as well…i don’t see the shots (or at least nothing tangible).
October 21st, 2009 at 2:45 pm
lil mama , when she jumped on his stage…
October 21st, 2009 at 2:57 pm
GOOD 50, DON’T BITE THE HAND THAT FEEDS YOU.
October 21st, 2009 at 3:10 pm
So there’s a Marcy Jay, and an Oprah Jay. does that mean there’s a Queens 50 and a Rachel 50??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7c0PcgDiAsI
October 21st, 2009 at 3:25 pm
lol….
October 21st, 2009 at 3:32 pm
or a CNBC 50
October 21st, 2009 at 3:38 pm
Seriously though 50-cent is getting really sad at this point dudes like Al Bundy in the way too small letter-mens jacket from polk high doing the quarter back pose, just stuck in his glory days. He’s the guy that graduated years ago but still hangs out at the local high school. Dude grow up. His lack of maturity shows not only in his interviews but his music as well.
This act of every time an album is due to release drumming up some fake non-sense beef has gotten old, and everyone artist and music fans alike are hip to it already, and bored of it. The dude can’t sell records based on music alone anymore or probably never could cause if you look at it for every album there was a beef. And when that didn’t work last time with “Curtis” and Kanye kicked his ass anyway the dude wigged out and started kicking TV’s yep real mature hommie.
It’s almost uncomfortable reading his interviews these days he’s so insecure constantly having to prove his worth by displaying his toughness like the miserable kid who’s mommy didn’t love him so he bullied everyone else who was happy in the school yard. Music has changed fans are more discriminating for quality after being bombarded with a lack of quality for last few years and our musical palates so to speak have gotten more diverse in the process of looking for that quality music.
The super thug gangsta rap of the past has become passe due to it’s lack of creativity and obvious lack of reality, the very thing it preaches all the time, and at least in the past used to bring to the table but rarely displays today. Hip-hop now has become about expression don’t believe me look at the most talked about rappers today Kanye, Wayne, and Drake and even throw Eminem into the mix all 4 have no problem expressing real feelings in song speaking about real subjects rather then why and how I’m better and tougher then you. Jay has found a way to evolve in these changing times to find a sort of middle ground between his past persona and the present music climate.
50-cent has not and can not evolve like Jay did due to his insecurity that if he did actually say something in his rhymes it would be used against him or even worst he wouldn’t be the tough guy anymore but he fails to realize that the tough guy is no longer the cool guy the tough guy is just corny.
October 21st, 2009 at 3:38 pm
I AGREE 100%%%
I will even go a bit further and say that jay-z would NOT be relevant today if he was NOT Beyonce’s husband.
I honestly believe that…Jay-z latched on to Beyonce’ tight after he got ethered and people were saying his career was over. Same way he latches on to all the new artist now to stay relevant.
It’s funny how NOW Jayz and Beyonce’ act as if they would NEVER appear on a magazine cover together, or interview together cause they’re sooooo private, but when they first started going out around the BP2 era and Jay-z had started falling off he TOTALLY USED Beyonce’s status to stay relevant. He actually promoted BP2…Commercial and all with him and Beyonce as Bonnie and Clyde. Remember that? I even remember them doing an interview together on 106npark and Solange was there too. All three of them on the couch together. Jay-z needed that press BAD then cause it was fresh of the battle with him and Nas and he came up short.
He sure did do interviews and red carpets with Beyonce. He promoted his bp2 album with her.lol Now…he acts as if he didnt need her and he would NEVER use his relationship with her for photo opps and press.
Yeah right…
October 21st, 2009 at 3:39 pm
I’m a work of art, im a WARHOL already (as in Andy.)
October 21st, 2009 at 3:44 pm
…my god some of ya’ll are truly insane.
October 21st, 2009 at 3:48 pm
When Jay married Beyonce he became a bigger star, he is more acceptable to the public. Beyonce is the biggest pop star in the world, it’s only right that this would occur. As a result, Jay loses his street edge and becomes more approachable. There is no way Lil Mama runs on stage with Jay when he was associated with State Prop, Dame or Biggs. Back then, they were street guys that made smart business moves out of necessity. Rocafella was created because Jay couldn’t get a label deal, Rocawear was created because they couldn’t get a clothing company to work with them. I think 50 believes Jay is afforded certain things because of his affiliation with Beyonce (50 might be jealous). Jay is no longer perceived as a tough guy thus the “no one is scared of 50 cent” comments. Really not that big of a deal but it appears that a face-off is inevitable.
October 21st, 2009 at 3:59 pm
I know that I just lifed the lyrics off of a web site as is and I guess that’s how it was listed. I was an art history minor I know it’s Andy Warhol
October 21st, 2009 at 4:03 pm
hate to see it though…for NY’s sake…Fif always has something up his sleep and Jay won’t come weak. Hope it doesn’t happen…
October 21st, 2009 at 4:08 pm
JAY-Z AND 50CENT HAVE BOTH GROWN! THEY JUST HAVE A DIFFERENT LOGIC!
You can look at OLD footage of 50cent from then, to now and see the change in 50cent and he admits the change.
“Anyone who says that money hasnt changed them…they just havent made ENOUGH money. Money will change anyone”-50cent
I agree with 50cent. You have to change to adapt to your lifestyle, but what kind of change is it?
50cent doesnt feel like because he made tons of money he has to buddy up to other really, rich successful people.And talk and dress a certain way because he’s rich.
Jay-z fans act as if he did everything perfectly & the right way and that simply isnt true.Jay-z is NOT a self made international star like 50cent is!
Yes…Jayz is on top, but a large part of his success and the reason hes on top is the person he’s married to.Jayz isnt on top on the strength of Jayz alone.Beyonce is a BIG part of why jayz is an international star.Beyonce’ may be the ONLY reason he was able to stay relevant in the mainstream. So what did he really do besides get with the right woman? 50cent is an international star on the strength of himself.So who is Jayz, or a jayz fan to say 50 aint doing it right?If 50cent was Beyonce’s boyfriends and/or he collaborated with her CONSTANTLY (like jay-z did) and used her to stay commercial and relevant… who knows how 50cent would be viewed.
To me…They BOTH are trying to prove something.
Jay-Z seems to be trying to prove,or make excuses for why its okay for him to become a rich successful black man and cut off the people who helped him get to the top (dame,biggs)and change EVERYTHING about himself, appearance, surroundings, friends start buddying up with people like Chris Martin who probably wouldnt even deal with him if he wasnt ***JAY-Z***, not even because he’s rich, but because he’s ***JAY-Z***.
And 50cent seems to be trying to prove that you can make millions of dollars without having to be a sellout/ASS KISSER and buddy up with people who wouldnt give u the time of day if u werent a star.
Both of their opinions are valid. Do it YOUR WAY! I think 50cent is a too negative at times, but I also feel as though Jay-z AND Beyonce’ try to come off as if they are sooo perfect and they have it all together and everyone wants to be them and that isnt reality. I think Jay-z and his fans are wrong for acting as if his way is the ONLY way…Which he often does pass judgement on the way other rappers chose to live as if hes above it.
October 21st, 2009 at 4:18 pm
WHY DO PEOPLE KEEP ATTACKING LIL MAMA?
Are you people insane? You make it seem as if Lil Mama ran on stage and called him wack! lol Lil Mama went on stage cause she LOVES Jayz and wanted to be next to him.
Jayz is this Biiiiig star…right? Stars like that have crazy fans! Its NOT disrespect, its just a strong passion for someone u love! Michael Jackson had fans that ran on stage all the time. Other singers like Beyonce said they stopped performing when they noticed Michael Jackson in the audience. Its just a strong passion. Lil Mama did NOT disrespect Jayz. She made a fool of herself by being such a fan! Their is a big difference. Michael Jackson didnt threaten to beat up his fans who malled him on stage…he embraced the love. Even from other celebs.
Why are people acting like Lil Mama went up their and slapped him? lol Jayz should have been flattered that he moved someone that much, not hate them! Neither should his fans.
I bet if that was Prince who walked up their, or frank sinatra Jayz would have EMBRACED THEM! Even if it were Beyonce, or Michael Jordan.
The only reason Jayz is soooo mad about it is cause hes a narcissist and Lil Mama is not “elite” enough to be on stage with him. Even if she is only his #1 fan.
I still cannon believe Jayz said he wanted to “beat up” lil mama, or that was the equivalent to what Kanye West did. NO WAY! I admit, I lost a lot of respect for Jayz after that cause thats just arrogant and an out right lie to help Kanye save face and he threw one of his biggest fans (lil mama) under the bus to do so.
SMFH
October 21st, 2009 at 4:30 pm
You miss the point. This wasn’t a house party or a night club show for a few loose bucks. This was an internationally aired performance of a smash song for the 1st time live I.E it was Big Business. Period. Just as Kanye had no business on the stage prior. Lil Mama had no business either. And I credit Jay for not reacting and tossing her lil ass off the stage. You put in hours preparing a performance. Time scheduled that could be spent else where making moves and making money or even with friends and family.Its important and not to be fucked with.That’s professionalism point blank.
Take a moment that you worked hard for that you wanted to be perfect, and have it interrupted by someone you don’t have any real affiliation with.Regardless of intent that person would be wrong.
October 21st, 2009 at 4:32 pm
how was that disrespectful talk ?…the way she was talking, she sounded like she caught the holy ghost from his presence and damn near wanted to suck his dick up there
October 21st, 2009 at 4:33 pm
I ain’t no 50 fan, but I have to agree with him on some things. Jay is way more approachable now than his reasonable doubt days. There was a time when people would think twice about mentioning his name, now you got everbody and they mamma throwing shots. Hell, even Baby (cash money) threw a shot the other day.
Yes, Jay is a legend. Yes, Jay is paid. But, Yes, jay is softer than he was. People have to understand that the music business is geared to the fans. Gangster rap declined, because the amount of gangsters declined. Todays buying public aren’t from the street, never sold drugs, never shot nobody, never been shot at, hasn’t been to jail, probably never been arrested, and don’t really even know what some of these rappers are talking about. Hip Hop has turned into entertainment, when it used to be a depiction of actual inner-city life. Its the WWE now.
I’m not saying Jay is a sucker, cause he probably ain’t. I’m saying that he attracts sucker fans. Anytime you live vicariously through a rapper’s stories, it shows that you have no story of your own. 50 ain’t impressed with Jay’s stories, cause he has his own. No one from the actual streets cares about another niggas story, because their story is just as bad or worse.
Its crazy… We use to lie about being from the burbs cause we was ashamed to live in the projects. Now you got kids lieing about being from the hood because they ashamed to say they from the suburbs…. This shit is mind blowing.
October 21st, 2009 at 4:34 pm
He is going in on Hov for being on Oprah?? Wasnt this the same dude that took a pic w/ Bette Midler of all people?? Not too gangsta….
October 21st, 2009 at 4:34 pm
LOL you gotta be fucking kidding me… 50 dont talk unless he’s throwing shots, thats ALL he does…
he should change his name to 50 shots, it would fit better…
October 21st, 2009 at 4:37 pm
or a GQ cover 50 with the beyonce stage fan blowing at him…
October 21st, 2009 at 4:39 pm
man 50 wants to be on oprah so bad its hurts him… he cant stop talking about it…
October 21st, 2009 at 4:42 pm
he said what im Supposed 2 do “beat up lil mama” he just stated he thought it was disrespectful and he was disappointed but no1 stressin it she bugged out n apologized. move on
October 21st, 2009 at 4:43 pm
personally i see nothing un-gangster about oprah or bette.
October 21st, 2009 at 4:44 pm
co sign
October 21st, 2009 at 4:45 pm
Its NOT disrespect, its just a strong passion for someone u love!
If that was the case, everyone that really has a strong passion should be allowed on stage. I don’t think Lil Mama is a bad person but I think it was disrespectful for her to run on stage with Jay. Regardless of her intentions.
October 21st, 2009 at 4:46 pm
lmao tru he bein a hypocrite im a fan of fif’s but he gotta move on
October 21st, 2009 at 4:57 pm
THANK YOU!! That stuff is BASIC manners. She should have known better, especially because she is an “entertainer”. TIRED of hearing excuses and reasoning for her. If you condone Lil Mama you probably lack BASIC manners.
October 21st, 2009 at 4:57 pm
Yeah, you are right Ms. Info. But it is kind of two-faced to clown on Jay for being on Oprah, when he pretty much did the same thing he did.
October 21st, 2009 at 5:06 pm
Damn The Jay Z stans bum rushed this thread!!
October 21st, 2009 at 5:16 pm
I read all those comments and you mean to tell me that 50 was number 9 on that MTV list?..wow at these remarks and hate for fifth.He states whats on his mind and lets it out there..no hidden jewels like Jay.I cant wait til BISD drops uz its gonna sell crazy..
October 21st, 2009 at 5:40 pm
im not talking about that….like disrespectful like…. kanye/taylor swift disrespectful…like no one is going to come at JAy like that in the street right??
50 acts like he didn’t get that vitamin water deal……he sees the same type of money that Jay does
October 21st, 2009 at 5:50 pm
@MzBrittanyLUVZ
your right though. everybody shows growth in different ways. I see where your coming from. But 50 gets annoying because hes always throwing shots at people that arn’t like him. Like when he picks on Kanye, what did Kanye do to him?
October 21st, 2009 at 5:55 pm
what can jayz buy that 50 cant? what can jayz do that 50 cant do?
why would 50 be jealous of jayz? they both rich as hell.
jayz has turned himself to martha stewart,look at snoop,snoop is the same snoop even if he is around daz and kurupt or martha stewart.
i like jayz but dude has turned into seinfield.
October 21st, 2009 at 6:05 pm
ACTUAL ROOM????????
WHO THE FUCK TALKS LIKE THIS LOSER??
October 21st, 2009 at 6:08 pm
Not just an entertainer but she judges the PERFORMANCES OF OTHERS, so she of all folk should know better.
What if some random “fan” hopped on stage during one of the JabbaWakki’s dance routines.It’d be foul.
October 21st, 2009 at 6:11 pm
…you don’t think its a bit of a generalization to say he attracts sucker fans. I mean was MSG last month full of idiots that didn’t genuinely enjoy the music? Cuz that’s still the bottom line. They don’t have to care about his “street” past.
The question is, “Is the music good.” If its good everything becomes pretty irrelevant.
October 21st, 2009 at 6:13 pm
I give Jay credit cuz I dont think I could deal with so many people that know nothing of me talking so loose and greesy about my wife.
October 21st, 2009 at 6:18 pm
i never thought is’d b caught dead responding 2 mzbrittany but preach bitch.
October 21st, 2009 at 6:21 pm
corny ass comments.those fools don’t know ish.
October 21st, 2009 at 6:25 pm
damn girl u on fire.preach bitch.
October 21st, 2009 at 6:28 pm
@ rrahha……rrahha.lmfao
October 21st, 2009 at 6:30 pm
@ james dean…..ain’t u dead?
October 21st, 2009 at 6:33 pm
YAWN!!!!!
October 21st, 2009 at 6:46 pm
YEA JAY HAS SHOWN GROWTH BUT NO BODY HAS SHOWN GROWTH LIKE 50.& B4 U GO RANTING & RAVING DO SOME HOME WORK.LOOK UP HOW MUCH EACH 1 IS WORTH & U’LL B SURPRISED.JAY IS WORTH MORE NET WORTH BUT ONLY A LIL BIT MORE.NOW CHECK HOW LONG IT TOOK EACH 1 2 GET WHERE THEY R 2DAY.50 MADE JAY START GRINDING AGAIN BC 50 WAS ON HIS HEELS & JAY WAS LIKE WOW CAN’T HAVE THIS GOT 2 GET MY GRIND ON.SO IF U REALLY CHECK IT 50 HAS CAUGHT UP 2 JAY’S WORTH IN WAY LESS TIME THAN IT TOOK JAY 2 MAKE WHAT HE HAS 2DAY.SO WHO WOULD U SAY IS THE BETTER BUSINESS MAN/HUSTLER?
October 21st, 2009 at 6:51 pm
WHAT HAND?HIS OWN?
October 21st, 2009 at 6:51 pm
i xpect jay 2 hav sthin 2 say bout diz in couple weeks…n 50 iz talkin shit d guy that interviewd(london) jay is trevor nelson if u kno trevor nelson at all u wud kno dat hez got no tyme 2 try n make jay feel watsoeva way if it wuz TIM(WESTWOOD) i wud undastand cuz he likez d whole whoz beefin wit who …i feel 4 sme reason jay realy wntd 2 say sthin bout 50 n dat wuz like a gateway 4 him bein dat since dat whole kanye situation popd off 50 cudnt wait 2 start talkin shit!
October 21st, 2009 at 6:53 pm
@$CLIP…..that shit was funny.all y’all got me lmao.
October 21st, 2009 at 7:00 pm
go get a book deal & write a tell all.YAWWWWWWN!& no i didn’t read the whole thing yawwwwwwn,i read the 1st part & it just started.yawwwwwn.
October 21st, 2009 at 7:24 pm
beyonce should a went up their & yokt up the lil bitch.haha.
October 21st, 2009 at 7:42 pm
*ouch*
October 21st, 2009 at 7:45 pm
word i peepd dat da nigga always saying actual lmao
October 21st, 2009 at 7:58 pm
She was on stage for about a few moments…
My point is this.
People carried the issue the way Jayz did. If Jayz would not have made a big deal out of it…the public would not have. Had he said I didnt plan on her being up their but im flattered that i moved her so much ect ect People would have carried it that way. Jayz OBVIOUSLY has the power to shift public opinion and he could with this situation, but he chose not to.
I do agree…what lil mama did was wrong. But the energy behind it was not the same. She did not want to “ruin” his moment, or take away from what he did. She wanted to be next to her idol.She said so herself she just got caught in the moment and lost control. I believe her. That doesnt make her right, but its not as bad as people made it seem. It was still a magical moment.
The people are making a big deal out of how “disrespectful” (lol) it was for Lil Mama to be up there because JAY-Z made a big deal out of it.
I said this before…If that were Lil Wayne and T.I performing a song about howw great the south is and “FABO” (From d4l…for lack of a better example) ran up on the stage in the middle of their performance…What do you think T.I and Lil Wayne would have done? They would have embraced him! They probably would have laughed at it later. Not went on, and on about how he ruined *”their moment”*. They probably would have beckonded everyone else in the audience on stage from the south. (like they frequently do at BET awards shows) they EMBRACE each other. They SHARE their moments. They dont act as if “this person, or that person isnt elite enough to be next to me.” they dont hog the spotlight from each other.
THATS WHY THEY ARE ON TOP AND ALWAYS WILL BE! UNTIL NY RAPPERS LEARN HOW TO SUPPORT EACH OTHER AND THE OLD PEOPLE SIT DOWN, OR EMBRACE THE NEW…THE ONLY PERSON ON TOP WILL BE JAYZ AND THATS JUST WHAT HE WANTS!
Like I said…Yall gone see. Jayz is NOT trying to preserve hip-hop, or help it grow! Like most people who are in leadership positions (instituations and otherwise) they are put that position and,or maintain that position by…
KEEPING THINGS THE SAME! NOT CHANGING THEM OR HELPING THEM GROW!
JAYZ IS KEEPIN NY HIPHOP THE SAME..
ALL ABOUT HIM! THINK ABOUT IT…
October 21st, 2009 at 8:06 pm
I just find it odd that Jay-z says he did DOA cause he wants to preserve hip-hop and stop another art from obsoleting it the way hip-hop did rock music when it became to commercial…
However, hes NEVER willing to support hip-hop artist and especially none from NY. He will manufacture Rihanna, Neyo,Kanye ect to death, but he doesnt support rappers.
I think the ONLY reason he worked with Fabolous was damage control. So no one can say he doesnt work with NY rappers, or support hiphop any more. But I can see that a mile away. Hes distancing himself from the art form, but why if he cares about it soooo much?
Why do DOA? Why not do death of ny beefing, or something else better for rap? Its just fuggazy to me.
People say i be hatin on Jayz, but im not. I just dont sip the kool aid. hes a talented rapper and hes built a brand strong enough for him to make lots of money off his name. Thats it! He isnt perfect…Everything he says isnt gold. Rainbows DONT come out this mans butt! lol
October 21st, 2009 at 8:15 pm
EXACTLY!!! And yall KNOW I dont like “curly”, but I can understand what hes saying. I dont like the fact that 50cent is so negative and manipulative. I really think 50cent HURT hip-hop. Not just NY hip-hop, but hip-hop in general with his gimmickie strategies his peers have adopted. However that doesnt mean everything hes saying is a lie.
Jay-z STANS (not fans, but the fanatics) I believed have been sooooo brainwashed by Jay-z and how he constantly victimizes himself in his music, that they take everything that comes out his mouth as if its the gospel truth.They have listened to his BP trilogy so hard that they are convincned that anyone who doesnt agree with his moves,or goes against him is a hater, or wants to be him. Noooo…Some people just may not like him.lol Some people dont agree with the things he did to become *JAY-Z*. Some people believe Beyonce’ made him and he’s overrated.
I just think Jay-z boast himself so much in his own music its annoying to people like 50cent. Cause 50cent is a smart man, and he sees that Jayz is trying to convince the public that his way is the right way and hes on top and everyone wants what he has. (which he constantly says in so many words in his music) 50cent is making it clear that NOOOOOOOOOOO I dont want to be you, nor do I need to act the way you act to be successful. Thats probably why they WILL continue to bump heads.
PS: I think 50cent is also upset with the comment Jayz made about how stupid it is to youtube beef. (remember that?) It was kinda obvious he wa talking about the Rick Ross/50cent beef he thought went to far. I think 50cent took that personal.
October 21st, 2009 at 8:22 pm
50 Cent pulled a Cousin Bang! that day LOL!
To add to the jokes, “Shyne and Wolf were wrestling outside” Why??!!LOL
Puffy was like, “I can’t do that.” LOL having 2 trigger happy rappers in the same building, c’mon son.
50 Cent says “After the fact, I looked at it and was like, That’s a legitimate call.” LMAO!!! Understatement.
Sidenote: Seen Rick Ross bust his ass on stage LOL! He needed 2 people to help him up?!! That was a classic “C’mon son” Ed Lover just did.
October 21st, 2009 at 8:28 pm
You can read? nooo stop lying you didn’t read any of it. Because there aren’t any pictures right? Sorry about that. I’ll try to get an illustrator for you next time.
( An illustrator is someone who draws the pictures in books, I know you we’re stuck on that part with a confused look on your face, so there ya go)
My comments are for intelligent people with intelligent opinions who know how to voice those opinions in a logical cohesive manner
(by the way cohesive means put together in a seamless fashion, you know organized)
I knew that one would trip you up as well so I decided to help you out, what good is an education if you don’t give back a little right?
Anyway thanks for the advise it’s much appreciated I think I will get a book deal, but you know what it wouldn’t make a difference because because as you stated you don’t read! Judging by lack of any kind of sentence structure
exibit A
” i read the 1st part & it just started.yawwwwwn.”
you don’t write to well either. 🙂
October 21st, 2009 at 8:34 pm
Beef or no beef, 50 wouldn’t sell records if the fans didn’t like the music, what part of “f&*k Fat Joe makes anyone want to go out and buy 50 Cent’s music?
All these so called publicity stunts only raise awareness and give him more airtime but if the album ain’t hot fans ain’t buying. It’s always the music that sells records beef only keeps him in the headlines which to me is smart, the interviews are more entertaining.
October 21st, 2009 at 8:35 pm
See that I was so annoyed by your stupidity I stooped to your level and made a typo myself writing the word because twice. oh well I guess now you should feel more comfortable with this comment now being that your life is a typo. Have a nice day now 🙂 “yyaaawww” get some coffee maybe then you can stay awake and learn something.
October 21st, 2009 at 9:04 pm
“theres “safe” people there” im dead!!
p.s. whos 50 to talk when he chills with bette midler?
October 21st, 2009 at 9:08 pm
approchable,approchable…WTF?? he is a human being, so is 50 cent!Jay is right, no one is afraid of 50 cent. That guy got beef with half of the world and he got no one killed yet…We are talkin about music, i don’t know why these rappers always wanna bring the streets into it…No one from the streets is really buyin records.
October 21st, 2009 at 10:26 pm
So lets get this straight Queens 50 is mad at Oprah Jay-Z for not being Marcy Jay-Z anymore. 50 really needs to get over his man crush on Jay-Z cause it’s getting alittle sad now. The man over the years has done everything in his power to earn Jay-Z type stature but has always been just alittle short. Jay-Z had roc-a-fella, 50 had G-unit Hov wins. Jay-Z had Rocaware, 50 G-unit clothing, Hov wins again sold rocaware for 204 million. Jay-Z dates then marries pop superstar Beyonce increasing both there earning potential making them the biggest money making couple in hollywood in 2008, 50 dates Ciara both artist now on the down side of there careers again Hov wins, Jay-Z increases his social circle hanging out with Chris Martin biggest rock star on the planet right now since Bono and his wife academy award winner , Gwyneth Paltrow, and now Oprah the most powerful and richest women in America if not the world, 50 Bette Midler a has been singer actress from the 70’s and 80’s with moderate success in the past but hasn’t done shit in years and is now know for her Vegas shows and huge gay following, yeah Hov wins big there. Take it to the music debut album 50-cent Get Rich or Die Trying a great debut record which sold alot of records immediately, but no one in there right mind is choosing it over Reasonable Doubt, Hov wins again. Grammy awards Hov world tours Hov, Forbes List what ever he does 50 is just not quite Hov. Hov always wins always #1 and 50 always #2 oh wait not even that would be Kanye these days LOL well at least he’s ranked somewhere lol
October 21st, 2009 at 10:42 pm
Ladeez n Gentlemen i need your undivided attention
I’m gonna pull a stunt Based on pure Fact.
Okay
1st. Is any GROWN Man supposed to be Scared of 50 Cent?
*2nd. He added his 2 cents into the whole “Kanye-Talor Swift Debacle”*
3rd. Why did He(50-Cent) call a man a Punk because he said he wasn’t afraid of’em, Somebody who he has no beef wit anyway?
4th. Is 50 still playin’ the TOUGH GUY FROM 2003, STANDIN’ ON TOP OF THE EMPIRE STATE BUILDING SCREAMIN’ “RUN LITTLE RAPPERS!!! RUN!!!
wE KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT ONE FOLKS!
tO QUOTE A FORTUNE COOKIE:
“HE WHO WEAR BULLET-PROOF VEST WITH NO PROBLEM TARGET HIMSELF.”
oR “HE WHO LacKS ATTENTION CRAVES IT.”
oK! YOU BUY, YOU GO! oK!
October 21st, 2009 at 11:06 pm
I see the point your trying to make YouNG-FReSH2D but if raising awareness did not equate to better record sales, record labels would not have a marketing department they’re wouldn’t allocate a huge percentage of the budget for publicity and promotion, and rappers who are not selling the records they think they should be like 50-cent complained about with Curtis after he started kicking TV’s wouldn’t always blame the labels marketing department. People are interested in who 50 cent is saying things about they are not always interested in what he’s saying and that is why he sells records it’s like going to a hockey game you don’t buy a ticket for the match up you go to see the fights. 50 cent is a character who says and does outlandish shit to gain attention like a loud pro wrestler and therefore he’s way more entertaining then say a welterweight professional boxer, but me and others like me with more discerning taste I’d rather watch Mayweather do his thing then The Big Show sorry hey but that’s just me.
Side note See that super h8 an intelligent conversation between two people who disagree but still make good points without feeling the need to insult each other hate that I had to son you like I did but ya asked for it.
October 21st, 2009 at 11:36 pm
kenny goodtimes [edit]jay doin good but he been out since fuckin 96.fif been out for 6 years n already got more bread than diddy n acomplished more than alot of niggas in hiphop.hov or diddy aint see that type of bread in they 6th year n i neva seen 50 kiss ass.ya niggas hate 50 so much dat u listen 2 his songs n read da whole fuckin interview jus 2 take time out ya day n [edit]
October 21st, 2009 at 11:39 pm
Stan ass nigga R&R
October 21st, 2009 at 11:43 pm
@kenny goodtimes
by your comments i can tell you really think jay is hova.
jayz is now a corporate puppet,jayz been in the game since about 93,and 50 since 2003 and accomplished just as much as jayz. what is jay really doing to be jealous of taht fif cant do,what buy a g5or what a bentley? you think paul allen jealous of bill gates? upgrade your thinking homey
October 21st, 2009 at 11:46 pm
Ms.Info you have too many bitch made people on this site. 50 this 50 that sounds like you niggaz need to move on from 50
October 21st, 2009 at 11:47 pm
stop stannin nigga
October 21st, 2009 at 11:54 pm
Ray, Ray, fam you can’t put Bette Midler in the same category as Oprah fam…seriously I don’t understand why some commenters are trying to MMA public figures on MissInfo.tv
What Oprah did for Hip-Hop doesn’t even touch what Bette Middler has ever did. Oprah decided to build a school in South Africa, when she could’ve did that for The Wild Hundreds in Chicago. If a white guy in ATL could do it, she could easily out do him in every district in Chicago, but she chose not to. Her excuse was, the kids don’t care, they don’t want to learn……………….
I’m really starting to think a lot people who post comments on here don’t read much and realize who is for them and who is against them.
Do the knowledge fam:
“In 1995, Midler founded the New York Restoration Project, a non-profit organization with the goal of revitalizing neglected neighborhood parks in economically disadvantaged neighborhoods of New York City…”
Anyone that knocks 50 for working with Bette Middler is really out of touch with reality. He collaborated with her to build parks in South Jamaica, Queens. Anyone that grew up in southside know how the parks were. I remember going to Baisely and there was more empty 40oz bottles than fish in the water. Good luck riding your bike there, the paths were broken glass mine-fields.
The reason 50 is knocking Jay for being on Orpah is because he knows what Oprah thinks of Hip-Hop. Seriously, why hasn’t KRS-ONE been on Oprah, why hasn’t Mos Def/Talib Kweli been on Oprah, why hasn’t Chuck D beenn on Oprah…yet Jay-Z has? Anyone that doesn’t acknowledge that Jay got a Bey pass is not seeing things clearly. Oprah could easily work with Hip-Hop artist that are making music that push for change, but she doesn’t.
October 22nd, 2009 at 1:32 am
How is ‘taking a picture’ the same thing as being on a show?? Bette Midler is legendary in her own right, but is she bigger than Oprah??…friggin’ OPRAH!?!? I just don’t see how you can compare Jay-Z being on Oprah with 50 Cent taking a picture with Bette Midler.
October 22nd, 2009 at 1:33 am
“EXACTLY!!! And yall KNOW I dont like “curly”…” I don’t think you like anybody.
October 22nd, 2009 at 1:41 am
See thats the problem with 50, Jay-z is where 50cents wants to be, but he cant get there because of his mentality ad he doesnt realize dat. Jay-Z is still Jay-Z just getting older and more mature and about his money, while 50cents still gets off by creating fake and useless beefs to get attention. some how 50 always tries to spin things and make it about himself..he thinks just cause u from the streets u gotta stay there…jealousy comes out of 50’s mouth when he says stuff like Mr.Knowles or Oprah Jay…those are things he can never accompish and its eating him from the inside out. then the funny thing is that 50 has become soft himself. look at his recent songs talkig to much about making love and shyt…50 just needs to grow up..but hey thats just the way i see it..
October 22nd, 2009 at 1:48 am
In the beginning of “Lyrical Exercise” by Jay-Z he says that his interviews are hotter…nope. Award for hottest interviews is 50 Cent. If you don’t believe me look at how many comments there are for this post. As I type this, there are 79 comments with more added when Info releases them.
October 22nd, 2009 at 1:54 am
Jay-Z has Roc-a-Fella…well has any artist on the Roc sold more than Banks?? (other than Jay, of course)
Rocawear wasn’t Jay-Z’s. It was Dame and Biggs’ venture. Jay-Z basically stole it (and Kanye). So that’s not a valid comparison to me.
But I don’t see the point in comparing what people do with their lives and deciding “who’s better” by these outrageous comparisons. To me, Jay-Z is EASILY top 5 greatest MC’s of all-time. 50 Cent…not so much, but it ain’t like Jay-Z is automatically a better person than 50 because of his accomplishments. If you wanna make a comparison, compare the time it took Jay-Z to get where he is with 50’s.
Jay-Z took 13 years. 50 Cent took 6 years. 50 Cent equalled Jay-Z’s work in half the time. That, my friend, says alot.
October 22nd, 2009 at 2:09 am
hahahaha classic
October 22nd, 2009 at 2:12 am
LOL @ being so bored by a comment that you instead take the time to reply to it. Fail.
October 22nd, 2009 at 2:24 am
A very respectable 6 out of 7 for 50 Cent in this interview…
“SideshowRaheem’s 50 Cent Interview Checklist”
(1) Takes shots at Kanye West for no apparent reason. [CHECK]
(2) Complains about never winning a Grammy because his music is “too aggressive” or uses the term “aggressive content”.
[CHECK: Those artists no longer can create the aggressive content, because they shifted their lives to where they can’t create from a genuine space]
(3) Brags about the amount of his material he’s releasing. *This may include claims that his single album should really be a double album*. [CHECK]
(4) Spends a portion of his time talking about Eminem and/or Dr Dre. [CHECK]
(5) Talks about Jay-Z in a way that could be taken as disrespect but is sure to add some praise to make sure he doesn’t cross the line. [CHECK]
(6) Talks about the “space” he or someone else is in.
[CHECK: Those artists no longer can create the aggressive content, because they shifted their lives to where they can’t create from a genuine space]
(7) Talks about how his music reflects the “harsh realities”
October 22nd, 2009 at 2:54 am
Funny how people dislike the Jay-Z comments. You can’t tell anyone with common sense that what 50 said isn’t true about Jay. It is true.
October 22nd, 2009 at 3:01 am
People know Kay-Z (this new BP3 Kanye/Jay persona he has) is on this whole “mold the culture of Hip Hop” bs. If it wasn’t for his endorsement deals and side ventures outside of music he would be irrelevant today. His money gives him access to doors that would other wise be closed if it were based on music alone.
October 22nd, 2009 at 3:22 am
Do your research.
Jay-Z’s been in the game since 96. Didn’t really hit big mainstream success till 98. Didn’t touch the Forbes list until 07/08.
50 hit it big after buzz in 05. Made the Forbes list in 07/08. He’s made similar business deals and endorsements like Jay-Z.
And they’ve both been on Forbes almost every year since.
So how the hell has he “not grown”? The comments he said about Jay are true. He’s lost his edge. The only people believing Jay-Z are die-hard Jay-Z Stans.
If you’re just a lover of Hip Hop then you see right through people like Jay-Z, Puff, etc. It’s no disrespect. It’s just being real.
I appreciate Jay-Z’s music in the past. Not feeling this new Kay-Z (Kanye/Jay) persona, but somebody likes it.
I’m not one of the ones that believe everything Jay-Z does is for Hip Hip. When in fact it’s for him and him alone. Jay on Oprah does nothing for Hip Hop. After that show aired, she wasn’t checking for the next Rapper to do an interview. It’s his money and his connects that him that.
Bottom line is, if you’re a Stan of Jay-Z, just admit it and try not to make such ridiculous comments.
October 22nd, 2009 at 3:27 am
For all you clowns out there still hatin on lil mama for that boring ass set on mtv, get a life. It’s Hip Hop. Bum rush the stage.
October 22nd, 2009 at 3:39 am
yea yea yea whatever…
October 22nd, 2009 at 3:45 am
Co-sign
I mean i don’t understand why being married = soft?
A lot of these rappers are married, but the difference is they ain’t got the hottest chick in the game…I mean, people take this rap stuff way too serious
October 22nd, 2009 at 5:37 am
Is 50cent a Jay-z stan in disguise?Dude sound as if Hov is permanently tattooed on his mind.
Fif say Jay changed,what business of his is it?or maybe it’s just the bitch in Curtis.To manage such notice means Jay runs a lot of space in 50’s head.Too much space if i may say,even for Beyonce to afford.
I shudder to think the kind of images going through 50’s head.I doubt though Jay’s loosing sleep,which ever Jay you may choose Marcy or Oprah.
October 22nd, 2009 at 5:53 am
I’m talkin album sales, not concert shows. People can go to see 50 Cent diss rappers at his concerts but the reason they buy the music is because they like it.
Buying a CD and going to a concert are 2 different things.
October 22nd, 2009 at 8:17 am
Mr_Wayne u must be like 50cent..u see things thru blurry glasses..first of all wat makes 50cent relevant or any other rapper relevant today…nothing.second lets not forget that Jay-z album sales has topped the like of elvis and the beetles….lets not forget how 50cent made 150 million last year largely due to his vitamin water venture..so dont down any other rapper(or anybody for that matter) for being smart and investing in other things besides their craft. and if u actually listen to the BP3 u will realize that wat Jay is saying is true…look at ya man 50..he has changed alot too but nobody says nothing..50 now compared to the old 50 is a school boy..ps money does make the world go around…duh so yes money does give access to some doors…but lets not forget the content of people that Jayz has colaborated with outside of rap…rip MJ, Mayer..it goes on these are people that would never do a song with anyone else especially not 50
October 22nd, 2009 at 10:14 am
you first bitch
October 22nd, 2009 at 10:40 am
Yep Kanye & Cam’ron, Beans, I think even the Young Gunners… all sold more then banks. As for rocaware I don’t care who you or people think owned or stole it because Jay-Z sold it that’s what matters here. About career comparisons on what planet has 50-cent equalled Jay-Z’s work. Yeah it took 50 half the time to achieve less then half the success. 50’cent 2 #1 in a row his last third album #2 to Kanye West Graduation, Jay-Z 11#1 albums in a row. 50-cent has gained alot of success early but just as quickly he’s been on the decline as many trends do check the numbers fact is fact. Is 50-Cent really a seminal hip-hop figure or just another DMX remember X had huge! first 2 albums and everyone thought he was the next thing then that 3rd one came out and it was just eh and then it all went to shit from there. I’m just saying something to think about not all rappers are guaranteed to last 15 years. I’m not saying that Jay-Z’s success and longevity make him a better person shit it probably makes him a worst person cause to be that rich and powerful that long without a stab in a few backs and cutting a few throats that’s the nature of business but what I am saying is that success does make him a better recording artist business wise, social wise with his power circle and lets face it the most important part music wise HOV wins!
October 22nd, 2009 at 10:47 am
Truth can be relative I think I would give 50’s words more weight if he equally applied it to him self.
Just cuz he talks tougher and still does videos with street themes and elements shouldn’t fool anyone.
He’s cool with many of the same folks Jay is. But he doesn’t put it on front street to act as if he’s the “street kid” sneaking into the fancy party.
He’s cool with Bet Medler.Lets be serious.
October 22nd, 2009 at 10:53 am
Tell me how 50 accomplished as much as Jay in what world, Music or Business give me an example cause I can’t find one just cause the dudes both make money doesn’t mean its the same money and just because they both sell records don’t mean it’s the same and even if they both won Grammys oh wait no 50 hasn’t won a grammy my bad LOL BET awards then, and yeah I think paul allen might be alittle jealous of gates. I’m sure everyday that dude Allen puts in the hours to figure out how he can be the next Gates why not. If your not driven to take down the #1 guy and become the #1 guy why are you in business. # 2 is just the first loser Aura.
October 22nd, 2009 at 10:56 am
you missed my point it was an analogy I wasn’t talking about concert sales although Jay-Z win there too LOL but I was talking about purchasing a product because of hype around the product not so much the quality or content of the product it’s self
October 22nd, 2009 at 11:13 am
Its unfortunate that Jay-Z has brainwashed so many people. Jay-Z has never been hard. 2pac pulled his card back in 1996. Jay-Z recites movies. Same as Nas.
October 22nd, 2009 at 12:57 pm
Emo ass nigga go hang yaself like back in the day
October 22nd, 2009 at 1:44 pm
what does that even really mean? Anyway I pitty you. Obama really has to do something about the underprivileged youth these days, kids like you could use all the help and guidance you can get. Here’s an idea maybe YOU should call Oprah, I’m sure she can help your unfortunate ass get you into her school or something? Let me know how it all turns out for ya and if that don’t work do the world a favor throw on a blind fold and step into traffic peace out 🙂
October 22nd, 2009 at 2:39 pm
im just curious about how you say jay is on top because of beyonce..jay sold more when he wasnt with her. she has nothing to do with jay’z success. jay opened the doors himself b4 beyonce..when he first brought MJ on the stage to perform with him, he stepped to another level, then he had songs with rock bands and famous musicains outside of rap and he did dat all before he married beyonce so how dare u say he is on top because of her its just a female trying give credit to another female which i understand but also is just stupid. jayz isnt cutting people off because he feels he dont need them or anything…dame and jay had different point a views so they split and did they own things and now that Jay is doing it big he looks like da bad guy..aint nothing wrong with networking and making new rich friends who can become helpfull in the future..dats called being business savy..ignorant people call it selling out or forgetting where he came from…fyi jay reps his hood in every rhyme.never forgets his roots…bottom jayz is jayz and 50 wants to be where Jay-z is..only reason 50 is even in the media’s eyes is cause of stupid comments and fake beef with other artist…not because of his sales or cause he is hot anymore….lets keep in mind Jay just sold out MSG for and all proceeds went to the families of 9/11…where is anybody elses contibution
October 22nd, 2009 at 2:51 pm
Mrbucketz and Mr_Wayne, ya’ll both said what I wanted 2 say, but in a nicer way. I agree with you both.
October 22nd, 2009 at 2:52 pm
ur ignorance is crazy…when Jay-z first came out times was very different from when 50 came out…how u think 50 was able to be so successfull. because people like jay-z opened the doors for them..imma real hip hop lover and i see right thru 50 cents..mista gangsta rap who told jarule he sing to much but then turns around and sings on his albums about love and things…compare bp3 to 50 last album along with this new one.. and tell me who lost they edge..50 records dont even compare to bp3…if u listen to what jay actually says in bp3 u will realise the next level he is on…50 trying to get there but just cant yet..maybe when he grows up and stops tryna use fake beef to promot his albums maybe he can feel a lil peice of the glow and dont talk about admitting who fan u r cause its quite obvious ur a 50 fan because ur speaking from personal opinon…y do u think Oprah wasnt checking for the next rapper…? who she gonna interview 50..never cause his mentality is not on that level yet..but if it gets to jay-z level he might have a chance..y because jay opened that next door for everyone..now rappers can say shyt jay made it to oprah so if i keep my shyt proper then i dont have to say on BET only
October 22nd, 2009 at 2:53 pm
i couldnt put any better Kenny
October 22nd, 2009 at 2:59 pm
I couldn’t have said it better myself. This is the most insightful piece of blogging on this page. I hope everybody reads this cuz this is a discussion-ender!
October 22nd, 2009 at 3:19 pm
What do you mean, “it ain’t the same money”. Is 50 Cent being paid in Pesos?? Musically, 50 Cent has sold 24.5 million units total (with only 3 albums). Jay-Z, with 11 #1 albums, has a TOTAL of 18.4 million units sold. 50 Cent outsells Jay-Z musically. Which one has a better catalog is up for debate (I got Jay), but the fact is 50 outsells Jay-Z. On the business side, don’t forget 50 does movies. Something Jay-Z does not do. Movies are another way 50 gets PAID. 50 getting money from everywhere. I ain’t knocking Jay-Z, but you riding him so hard you’re not proofreading your comments. Jay-Z has a grammy…whoop-dee-whoop so does Three 6 Mafia. And Kanye has more grammys than Jay, so whatchu saying?
October 22nd, 2009 at 3:23 pm
Jay-Z and Nas have people who GREW UP with them claiming they’re not what they claim to be. 50 Cent has noone in his past that says that. His “gangsta” is well documented. I’m not saying Jay-Z and Nas soft or that they’re not “gangsta” in their own way, but 50’s past is not questioned cuz everything is proven to be fact…..unlike Officer Rickyyyy!!! lol, I had to take a shot at that fat basterd.
October 22nd, 2009 at 3:47 pm
He did get the vitamin water deal and he is paid. If he were irrelevent than why do you keep commenting on him hop off already.
October 22nd, 2009 at 3:54 pm
First off, thats corny to chose sides. You can like two successful rappers. 50 cent is in a space where he can have money and still say and act on his thoughts. Jay is paid but he has (and always have) to censor himself because he has a different image. You really dont have to choose sides but you can decide which style suits you best. Partying at the White house or chilling in the playboy mansion. There is no right or wrong.
October 22nd, 2009 at 3:56 pm
@mz brittany….sorry.that wasn’t suppose 2 hurt.
October 22nd, 2009 at 4:07 pm
@ kenny wasteoftime …..make ur point fool cause u ain’t saying nothing.o & thanx 4 reading my entry.seems like i touched a nerve.pussy i may not write well but y u ain’t point out the spelling errors?imay not write well but i do know how 2 spell the word no & make it sit right in a sentence dumbfuck.dumbfuck means,o i can’t explain just look in the mirror.peace gaaaaaad.
October 22nd, 2009 at 4:16 pm
@mcnig….just thought i’d let him know how dumb his shit is like urs.@least he commented on the subject u commented on som’n i said about him unrel8ed 2 the subject so if i fail what does that make ur bitch ass?if some 1 intelligent like mz.brittany or mr.wayne & a couple others said i fail then i would worry so in the mean time i’ll smoke a next blunt & c if it inspires me 2 say some dumb shit 2 u that u may or may not understand.gggg-unit mother fucker.
October 22nd, 2009 at 4:38 pm
preach.the only downside 2 ur entries mz.brittany is that dumbfucks like penny wasteoftime can’t comprehend intelligent shit & get mad when they find out the fact.preach.
October 22nd, 2009 at 5:00 pm
Are we really discussing who among these adults is more “gangsta”???
Really?
October 22nd, 2009 at 5:01 pm
…..Jim Jones has/had the same problem.
October 22nd, 2009 at 5:03 pm
@ mz.brittany…..i’m a big 50 fan & u aint but ur points r valid except i think ny hip hop was in disarray b4 50 came on the scene.& remember like jay 50 couldn’t get a deal @ 1st not even a sit down so when he got in he decided that he ain’t fucking with these other rappers bc none of them helpt him.guess they paying the price now tho cause nigga filthy & powerful. @penny wasteoftime….this is how u have an intelligent & objective convo.dumbfuck.
October 22nd, 2009 at 5:17 pm
@flatbush….so true.all facts but that bitch penny wasteoftime doesn’t have the intelligence to comprehend what u said.VERY STRONG & FACTUAL POINT.
October 22nd, 2009 at 5:20 pm
@ aura time…..PREACH.take that fool 2 school son.
October 22nd, 2009 at 5:34 pm
Sigh.. so sad really, don’t you think NMcG it pains me to see that children like super h8 have fallen threw the cracks hey maybe Oprah will help him LOL
October 22nd, 2009 at 5:44 pm
Shouldn’t there be an IQ test to post on this blog
“i mean bitch only a homo would even think like that u faggot ass DUMBFUCK.peace god.” (super h8) yep how did we ever survive without pearls of wisdom like this I mean super h8 you my friend are an idiot savant heavy on the idiot light on the savant. LOL
I mean seriously is this the best that’s out here I mean where’s that dude Nightfall, or LongWinded those guys at least make thought provoking comments and are cleaver with his responses.
October 22nd, 2009 at 6:00 pm
uh oh….someone said that? Ugh. I hate having to edit out slurs.
October 22nd, 2009 at 6:39 pm
AMEN!!!! But you can’t tell a Jay-Z stan nothing, just like you cant tell the head Cam’ron stan in charge nothing either. Everything Jay-z does is for JAYZ AND JAYZ alone.
(Ask any, and everyone who ever knew him!He dont give a crap about hiphop, he only cares about jayz)
October 22nd, 2009 at 6:51 pm
You’re misunderstanding what I’m saying. In no way was I dissing endorsement deals. I’m saying that because of his ventures outside of Rapping, he’s able to get other opportunities because of his business image.
As for the BP3, JZ contradicted himself throughout that entire Kanye-centric album. One minute he’s saying get violent, the next he’s saying throw on a suit and go to the White House, then he’s saying your jeans are too tight and your shirt is too bright, then he’s got Drake spouting about how Tims and baggy jeans… we off that?
JZ fails at trying to tell the culture what to do. His Stan’s have made him think that his money makes him the leader of Hip Hop as a culture.
And stop telling people what to do when you post comments lol… you sound like somebody’s mother.
“Don’t down people. That’s a bad bad thing to do, Mr_Wayne.”
lol j/k
October 22nd, 2009 at 7:20 pm
@ MrBucketz…
” she has nothing to do with jay’z success. jay opened the doors himself b4 beyonce..”-The Bucket
That alone shows you are a clueless Jay-z fan in denial. Your not even worth the debate if you believe that.Jay-z doesnt even believe that.
Super H8 is making the point that he hasnt done ANYTHING by being on Oprah.
JAYZ IS NOT NOT NOT the first rapper to be on Oprah! LUDACRIS IS and he was disresected cause of his lyrics. Even though he does FAR MORE in his community than Jayz does! (im in atl, i know how much hands on work luda and his mom does and i respect him)
The only reason Jayz got respected on Oprah is because hes mr knowles! VALID POINT by the “Curly Munkey”!!
October 22nd, 2009 at 7:23 pm
First and foremost I’m not a fan of 50. Matter of fact, I’m really only a fan of one MC and he’s not in this discussion. My other favorite died. I have respect for other artists, but when it boils down to it, they’ve all been fraudulent and manufactured for a long LONG time.
I’m in no way saying that 50 isn’t guilty of his own fraudulent past. I’m saying that to say 50 and Jay aren’t in the same league, or 50 needs to grow more than Jay is ridiculous.
You might need to check your own ignorance. 50 has been on CNBC doing interviews about a book with an award winning author. He’s done magazine articles and interviews along side one of the greatest actors of our time, Robert De Niro, to promote a movie that he wasn’t even the star of! So you’re saying that he couldn’t hold his own in an Oprah interview? What are you an Oprah fan?
I don’t care about Jay being Jay from Marcy or w/e. The truth is that Jay has lost his edge. Period. In some ways 50 has as well. If you were to compare the two in certain situations that have to do with being excepted by the streets, then 50 would have a bit more love from that particular area than Jay. That’s no disrespect, that’s just the simple truth.
I don’t need a history lesson. I know musically Jay exceeds 50. Everyone knows that. I’m referring to these “grow as a man” comments. It just sounds like something a Jay Stan would say. 50 has had almost the same opportunities as Jay, through various business deals. Just like Jay. Jay’s money may be longer but 50 is at a level where he far exceeds many people as well.
You gotta take your fan pride out of the equation and see the artist for who they are. I did that a long time ago. Then next time 50 says something and it sounds fraudulent, I’ll be back on this site doing the same thing I did when we’re discussing Jay. KEEP IT REAL.
October 22nd, 2009 at 7:37 pm
And Jay-z doesnt talk about Jim Jones and Dipset?
He didnt take a shot at them on EVERY SINGLE SONG on his album Kingdom Come? (that was critically panned WACK)
Lil Bow Wow didnt even exposed the fact that he was afraid of how to respond to them and sweating the beef with dipset?
He didnt promote BP3 STILL dissing Jim jones and throwing side jabs?
Oh…or did he not respond? smfh lol
October 22nd, 2009 at 7:42 pm
Huh????
Lmfaoooooooooo
MzBrittanyLUV = The Head Cam’ron Stan In CHARGE!!!!!!
MzBrittanyLUVZ
Cam’ron
Troy Smith
Thomas Jones
Reggie Bush
Ghostface
AZ
October 22nd, 2009 at 7:54 pm
Common and Ludacris have both appeared on Oprah. Jay-z is not the first, but your right! So is 50cent. The only reason he got on their and respected is cause hes mr.knowles and Tyra and Oprah are on a mission to make Beyonce and her life the standard for the female black entertainer that they have to promote jay-z in a positive way.
(and of course they wont broadcast anything negative about her family, like how her father is expecting an outside child with a woman beyonces age!lol The knowles family is paying to keep that out the mainstream media. so much for the “perfect” knowles dynasty huh? But her butt kissers wont expose it!)
October 22nd, 2009 at 8:36 pm
As if to defy logic.Ain’t Jim Jones the same dude Jay coined the now famous phrase- “Men lie,women lie but numbers don’t” after?
It’s a harsh dose of reality how Jay-z’s worst album tops many people’s best.Jim Jones included.
October 22nd, 2009 at 11:07 pm
But Mr87…
Because Jay-z out sells jim jones. Does that mean he is always right and everything Jim Jones is saying is wrong?
Thats my point…No one denys Jay-z talent and success, but just because hes talented and successful DOESNT mean hes always right, or above chritcism. Like his fans act like he is!It doesnt mean that everyone who calls him out when hes frontin is a hater, jealous, or wants to be him like hes BRAINWASHED u into believing in his music.
HOP OFF!
October 23rd, 2009 at 12:19 am
its a strange phenomenon that highly articulate emcees like nas and jay speak clumsily while less lyrical emcees like 50 and wayne sound professorial at times
October 23rd, 2009 at 12:24 am
Co-Sign. People need to take the Stan out of their comments and just be real.
October 23rd, 2009 at 1:25 am
Yoooo! You cats are wild! Just straight goin’ the fuck in! I been reading these comments and straight up LMAO for like 10 minutes! My 2 cents: I still like 50, in spite of all his antics, mainly because he makes me laugh, and also because he reminds me of the kind of rap I grew up on. Before, rappers going at each other was understood and accepted. A rapper could never get too comfortable; he wasn’t supposed to. If he did, another rapper would come for his spot. It seems that a lot of the newer hip-hop fans want hip-hop to be this soft, cuddly environment where everyone gets along. But that’s never been what hip-hop is. Back in the day, every artist, even the conscious ones, was always ready to do battle, point blank period. Also, it seems that fans now are very sensitive and maybe identify a little too closely with the artists, most of whom are nothing in real life like how they act in public. Which brings me to another reason I like 50: he is always pretty much the same, just throwing hot grease in every direction.
October 23rd, 2009 at 3:12 pm
Get a grip lady and stop running off on assumptions.
I simply stated a historical fact on the Jim Jones/Jay-z situation.No need to be rude.For the record,I never said Jay-z is right or Jim Jones is wrong.I called it for what it is.
Your assumption of being brainwashed by the music is frankly obnoxious if not absurd.Fortunately like most level-headed people,i’m sensible enough to understand that music,like any form of art is just entertainment.Not a matter of life and death.
“HOP OFF!”- so much of being “The Antagonist” you claim,you catch way too much feeling and prejudice to be considered objective.
October 23rd, 2009 at 5:51 pm
FAIL!!!
Back trackin azz comment!
Who’s Next? –>
October 29th, 2009 at 12:21 am
will u tell him dat n his face