Thu 9 Aug 2012
Which Rapper Should Be Most Pissed Off by Complex’s “30 Best Rappers in Their 30s” List?
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Oh, I know my pals at Complex are kickin’ back with their microbrews and their fancy sneaker-dress shoe hybrids having a good laugh today. They posted another list, this time ranking the “30 Best Rappers In Their 30′s.” And like death and taxes, outrage was imminent.
I’ve saved you some clicking and refreshing, without giving away all the 30 names…
Let’s go over some of the rankings…
And discuss, which rapper do you think is the most pissed off right now?
After the jump
So here are the top 10 on the Complex “30 Best Rappers in Their 30s”: (Click on the link to read their summary)
1) Eminem
2) Kanye
3) Nas
4) Andre 3000
5) Rick Ross
6) 2Chainz
7) Pusha-T
8) Danny Brown
9) Young Jeezy
10) Lupe Fiasco
So far, how does that list feel to you? Do you think that despite being #2, Kanye is still pissed? (Mind you, Lil Wayne is 29 years old, and Jay-Z is over 40 so they’re not on this list at all.) I like Danny Brown, but I wonder if his #8 spot has some of his fellow rappers grinding their veneers.
As for Joe Budden twitter fury (cosigned by Big Boi #11 and Young Jeezy #9, see above)…He is clearly pissed off because he got the #24 spot. His Slaughterhouse teammate Royce got #20, but Joell Ortiz isn’t included at all.
So do you think there are any other glaring omissions? Hast Joe Budden been forsaken? What about Lloyd Banks?
This guy is building a Complex Magazine bonfire right now? ; )
August 9th, 2012 at 6:11 pm
This list is way off. Some of are not ranked high or low enough…Some should not be on the list at all. Budden def should be top ten.
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Banko0o0o Reply:
August 9th, 2012 at 10:27 pm
I dont thnk its really a list.. they just tried to name every rapper in their 30′s hahaha
Budden shouldnt be mad and he damn sure shouldnt be naming names DIDNT HIS DUMBASS LEARN ANYTHING FROM THAT METH SITUATION? The saughterhouse album was buzzing,the vibe was good, they were getting close big things and then he started talking about meth over some list, got backlash, then got punched in the face and boom thats IT!!! the good vibes gone!
SO SHUT THE FUCK UP JOE EVERYTHING IS GOING FINE DONT FUCK IIT UP!!
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Flowdini Reply:
August 10th, 2012 at 9:28 am
co-sign. Nas should have still been # 1 eminem just yells on records nowadays anyways , he aint been dope since 2000 , be serious
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Chris Reply:
August 10th, 2012 at 11:22 am
2000?
So The Eminem Show album wasnt dope? 8 Mile Soundtrack? His shit on Obie, D 12, Banks, 50 albums and all the other guest verses? Please, yeah Encore and Relapse werent his best work but he came back strong with Recovery.
Give me a break.
Doug E Fresh Reply:
August 11th, 2012 at 2:13 am
@Chris…cosign! Can you say…Forever Remix!?!?!?
Flowdini Reply:
August 11th, 2012 at 12:06 pm
Nas > eminem. period
Kreole Reply:
August 11th, 2012 at 4:15 pm
@Chris I can name at least 5 Nas albums that were better then the Eminem show.
ttomcatt Reply:
August 13th, 2012 at 10:54 pm
@Kreole.. no you can’t. Even if you did, nobody would co-sign that nonsense. Yes, Nas is great. Everyone would agree. You might could name two Nas albums that play in the same ballpark as the Eminem Show, but none that outshine it.
Flowdini Reply:
August 15th, 2012 at 12:02 pm
@ ttomcatt , Illmatic , it was written , still matic , god son/street deciple , and now life is good … your turn …
August 9th, 2012 at 6:13 pm
Maaaaaaaaaaaan, FUCK COMPLEX MAGAZINE. *shrug*
One.
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August 9th, 2012 at 6:16 pm
bs bs bs….Danny Brown doesnt have a album of relevance… The top 4 is thts preference even the rick ross thing he’s hot right now… Young jeezy he’s not hot musically nothing out …eeh…2 chains has alot of singles…but no album….joe dont need to be top 10 but danny fn brown..can rap but he not joe lyrically… at all..wte another fn dumass list
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Banko0o0o Reply:
August 9th, 2012 at 10:45 pm
The Top 4 IS cool…
The bottom 6 is ass…
How is it that Crooked I or School Boy Q didnt make the list?
9.-10. would have been Joe and Crooked
Big Boi shouldnt be on the list..
Luda, Mos Def should be higher?
AND WHERE THE FUCK IS LLOYD BANKS?????????? HE IS SO FUCKING OVER LOOKED!!
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Miss Info Reply:
August 10th, 2012 at 1:31 am
Is Q in his 30s? I agree that Banks is sorely omitted
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August 9th, 2012 at 6:20 pm
Nas should be #1 case closed
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Miss Info Reply:
August 9th, 2012 at 6:21 pm
look, the positioning of the top 10 is a neverending black hole…but who are the artists that you think were wrongly omitted. that’s what I’m more interested in. Mind you….they have to be in their 30s.
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Chris Reply:
August 9th, 2012 at 6:55 pm
The whole list is a joke. Your pals at complex should must be having a slow news day and tried to create some.
Here is my list of people who should be most pissed off.
-Anyone ranked under Danny Brown. (Except 2 Chainz)
And how 2 Chainz has become so relevant beats me. I haven’t been impressed by a single line of his ever.
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TheOrganizedGrind.com Reply:
August 9th, 2012 at 8:59 pm
Don’t really see many omissions…
TI being #21 was interesting. Especially when Juicy J, Danny Browm, and El-P all landed inside the top 20 or less. Tip is better than all 3. How does Danny Brown make the top 10??
What has he done to warrant that?
And how old is Raekwon? Beanie Seigal?
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Banko0o0o Reply:
August 9th, 2012 at 10:29 pm
Rae sucks and Beans aint beans no more.. But I didnt get where luda was at, he can flat out spit…
And did they forget Banks is in his 30′s?
30 Day Internet Marketing Challenge Reply:
August 10th, 2012 at 5:17 pm
I personally think Nas shoulda been over Kanye, especially because of the album he just released… He is on top of his game.
3 of the people in top 10 are GOOD music or GOOD affiliated. 2Chainz in the top 10? Are u serious? Pusha T?!? WTF is Pusha even doing in the top 10?
There is absolutely no way Danny Brown should be in the top 20… I’m sorry that’s just BS in my eyes.
I can understand Ross in the top 10 because he is really hot in the streets right now so whatever… I won’t argue that.
Luda not high enough, TI.. OMG they did him a serious in justice. I aint really a Camron fan but he should have been higher. Joe Budden and Royce Da 5’9 could have been higher for sure, EVERBODY in Slaughterhouse is spitting maaad ill right now… The question is, did Slaughterhouse do something to piss off Complex?
Because truthfully u can see that the Top 10 is largely about who is popping and/or who got an album coming out.
Niggaz can hate on Jeezy being there but Jeezy’s last album that came out in Dec did 1st week numbers better than Rick Ross’ GFID and Ross is killing the game… So Jeezy has to get credit for that. I can turn on 99 Jamz right now and I’m probably gonna hear that Jeezy and Neyo.
I know I may catch some flack for this but why do ppl always get pissed when Banks gets left out… Dude is nice but his voice is annoying and if you really really think about it any guest verse Banks has done in the last 3-4 years, I could easily name 15 rappers who woulda spit something more memorable. Banks has got to be the internet’s most over rated rapper to me.
Ok let’s be real… EVERY Rapper in from #20-30 is better than 2Chainz, Danny Brown, Juicy J and El-P. Let’s talk about that!
And if Method Man was nicer than Joe Budden’s before, then where the hell is he on this list… Redman? The entire Wu? Are all these guys over 40? Imma have to check wiki or somn.
Honestly the Top 10 on this list seems like when they sat down to talk about the list, they asked each other “who is hot in the streets and the internet that’s over 30″ and then they gave them the Top 10 and added the rest after. Ridiculous!
And I have to say this… ANYBODY fighting out Big Boi at #11 obviously didn’t listen to Sir Lucious Left Foot. I could put that shit in right now and let it play from track 1, all the way thru. Big Boi on a technical and skill level is a top 10 contender in my eyes… I’m just saying if this is based on best rappers in their 30′s, rapping skill… Big Boi is nice a fuck.
Fuck a lifestyle magazine putting together a Hip Hop list when who ever had final decisions obviously doesn’t have a fucking clue what they are talking about.
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30 Day Internet Marketing Challenge Reply:
August 10th, 2012 at 5:25 pm
In the argument for #1…. Nas and Eminem could have tied and I would have been ok with that.
Say what you want about Eminem’s albums over the last half-decade, in Relapse and Recovery. Relapse was ass and Recovery was a good recovery in my eyes, even though it was so much more Poppy but it was the exact opposite of Relapse.
If you watched that last BET cypher, then u know Em has got to be up there…
Nas post Def Jam hasn’t missed in my eyes… Hip Hop is Dead was needed… The untitled album was sooooo ill, America neeeeded to hear those truths. His collaboration with Damian Marley “Distant Relatives” was an album bigger than Hip Hop and Reggae, that’s a classic no matter what your personal taste. “Life is Good” is solid Hip Hop and with grown man swag.. Dude did a song about his daughter that’s more relevant than anything 2Chainz can come out with period! He showed something we don’t get enough of on that album.
It shoulda been a tie, although after typing this out, Nas may have had more clout for #1 than Em… Damn lol
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August 9th, 2012 at 6:30 pm
Are the Wu all over 40?
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Rhyme & Reason Reply:
August 11th, 2012 at 11:33 am
We should know by now that these list aren’t based on actual facts at all.
They come wit the list based on whos in the spotlight right now, the old faithfuls, n whoever else comes to mind!
“ummm ummm Oh what about that guy OH n what him too!!”
An then they leave it to the real fans and the rappers to hash it out n make sense of it.
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August 9th, 2012 at 6:31 pm
the 8) turning into a happy face and also happening to be danny brown I thought you were trolling, but by golly his name is there.
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August 9th, 2012 at 7:02 pm
To make it easier I don’t think Jeezy, 2 chainz, rick ross, danny brown (who i love but should should not be in the top 10), or even Kanye should be top ten. What about underground artists who dont get any recognition like Elzhi, Reks, Tech N9ne, Pharoahe Monch? Dey fuccced up on dis one. And they have all these veterans in the 20s and 30s on this list. Nas number 1 to me nobody rapping like him at his age.
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shottyinthemerm Reply:
August 10th, 2012 at 10:46 am
Man, the last good song Pharoah Monch had was what..WWIII with Shabaam Sahdeeq? And Tech N9ne, is you serious my g? I’d listen to 2Chainz over that cat any day. Tech N9ne seems like the type of dude who works in at a Hot Topic in Iowa.
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August 9th, 2012 at 7:10 pm
Freddie Gibbs. Otherwise, not too mad at the list.
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August 9th, 2012 at 7:26 pm
Kanye over Nas? Are you fucking serious? Why is 2chains even on the list? This is shit. I’m so mad haha
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August 9th, 2012 at 7:31 pm
Complex is a fashion mag that delves in Hip Hop from time to time……so who cares……in other news:
Miss Info plz bring the beat back on this blog…..we love you….tighten up
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August 9th, 2012 at 7:48 pm
not say cam’ron is the best, but he has had a better carrer than pusha t and is better than him period, cam should be #9 on that list, , complex pusha t aint all thaaat
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The Legend Reply:
August 10th, 2012 at 1:46 pm
I agree!
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August 9th, 2012 at 8:37 pm
is freddie gibbs in his 30s?
where is murs?
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August 9th, 2012 at 8:49 pm
Grinding their veneers and Danny Brown has NO teeth. (Googly eyes), this is why we read Miss Info….
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August 9th, 2012 at 8:55 pm
wow what a joke
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August 9th, 2012 at 9:05 pm
Kanye West dont even write his own shit and Complex magazine has the audacity to list him over Nas. Get the hell outta here with that bullshit. Nas & Eminem are 1 & 2 by a large margin on that list. Kanye West is not even in my top 5. Nas worst line is better than Kanye West best line…Total bullshit article by Complex magazine. They probably got some tight pants suspect cat writing that article….Somebody needs to smack the shit out of him for writing that bullshit….
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Young Scuba Reply:
August 9th, 2012 at 11:34 pm
Kanye wrote MBDTF what are you talking about?
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smay Reply:
August 10th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
Yea, Kanye wrore MBDTF with 30 other rappers in the room offering him lines.
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August 9th, 2012 at 9:21 pm
2 chainz aint put in enough work to b that hot,
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August 9th, 2012 at 10:03 pm
where’s Cam’ron ???
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Miss Info Reply:
August 10th, 2012 at 1:32 am
he’s in there.
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August 9th, 2012 at 10:07 pm
Ya’ll are sooo pro NY its crazy..Fab is the hottest in the City. Consistant and a trend setter. Nas,WU Tang,and who ever else ya’ll are trying to remember from old tapes you got in the dresser drawer..kill yourself. 2chains deserves on the list but not top 10. TI needs to be higher up…Gangsta Gibbs is ready to blow. Glad ya’ll can see that with skully’s on in the summer w/Tims. SMH
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Action Reply:
August 10th, 2012 at 5:40 am
Fab is what? The hottest in what city? Moronville? He is consistently horrible and an embarrassment, a rodent looking airhead. Trend setter? Could anybody name one single trend a reptile like Fab has ever set?
The list was called “BEST rappers”…look at the top 10 again.
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Bcole Reply:
August 10th, 2012 at 1:29 pm
Who is your top 5…There aren’t many ppl that can have BOTH swag and Lyrics. To me Fab is one of them.
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August 9th, 2012 at 10:38 pm
Nas should be #1, Andre 3000 #2. Where is Common?? I can’t believe they left him off this list. 2 Chainz shouldn’t be allowed to sniff a studio…
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August 9th, 2012 at 10:43 pm
ithey only do stuff like this to get people talking about complex just like mtv hottest mc list that they know is bs……..like Em said about xxl…….here let me give you some help xxl xxl maybe now ur magazine wont have so much trouble to sell…
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August 9th, 2012 at 10:44 pm
I think Black Thought is a glaring omission.
There aren’t 21 rappers in their 30′s better than Jadakiss (I’m lookin’ at YOU 2 Chainz!) and no matter how good Danny Brown might be, there’s now a group of people that hate him on GP.
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August 9th, 2012 at 10:59 pm
A few points I must say:
1) I had no idea Fab was that old, lol. But he needs to be ranked higher.
2) 2 Chainz & Danny Brown (I’ve really never heard of this guy till now – maybe I’m too old myself) don’t deserve to be on this list.
3) Pharell is too high on this list for me… If he should be on this list then it should be # 30 or 29 (that’s as high as I would place him).
4) Jadakiss, TI, Luda, and Joe Budden need to be bumped up some spots.
But to each, his own. I don’t give Complex’s hip-hop lists/reviews too much weight.
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August 9th, 2012 at 11:33 pm
Investing any type of emotion on a list that has Mos Def @ 28 & Danny Brown @ 8 is…. retarded.
Unless your 14.
Grow the fuck up & invest your time into something meaningful.
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Kushtopher Robbins Reply:
August 10th, 2012 at 6:20 pm
Hear Hear… But really theaux Mos @ 28, No Electronica, No Common, No Cam’ron, No Currensy… Really!?! (Hip Hop needs to be patrolled better… So much for our standardizing team of Officials over at Complex Mag.)
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August 10th, 2012 at 12:21 am
why is 2 chainz danny brown in the top 10 they coulda put Luda 50 and Fab or any other rapper over 30 that at least has a platinum album these so called hip hop ppl dont know shit
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August 10th, 2012 at 1:09 am
One of my favorite stories is that my friends were out and a man came up to them and said he just got done giving back shots to Joe Budden.
For real tho, why is Slaughter House relevent? This is a group of rappers who had their shot and there was no audience for them and so the labels put them all together. Royce is a good rapper, same with Crooked I. Joell has that happy to be recognized attitude.
But really you see guys like Skyzoo in nyc all the time getting refused from venues and treated like crap, but he had a 9th wonder mixtape. So it’s like I am really concerned where people’s tastes are at.
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calm77 Reply:
August 10th, 2012 at 9:25 am
He probably ment Joe Biden…
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August 10th, 2012 at 1:22 am
DANNY BROWN IS REAL HIP HOP!!
fyi i lie when i’m on the internet
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August 10th, 2012 at 3:31 am
Game and 50 cent both missing ? Game no. 1 album and Premo co sign last year. 50 bowt to drop after Oprah interviews etc…. This list is giving me a complex ! Nas said Hip Hops on life support right now. Seeing this shit makes you want to pull the plugg ha
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Miss Info Reply:
August 10th, 2012 at 4:37 am
i didnt list the entire 30. Both Game and 50 are on there.
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The Watcher Reply:
August 10th, 2012 at 10:08 am
Wow, a reply from the beautifull Boss of Goss herself……Much love from Scotland X
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August 10th, 2012 at 9:13 am
Wait Wait Wait! People actually take 2 Chainz seriously as a rapper?? The whole slaughter house thing is embarrassing. These amuse be the dudes GZA talked about. “Mountain Climbers who play the electric guitar”
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August 10th, 2012 at 9:24 am
“Rapper – Lyrics, Production, Flow (Word Play)” Not just how relevant you are by 9/10/2012 cause you have a buzz and the industry helps build your momentum to sell your record.
1. Nas
2. Kanye West
3. Eminem
4. Fabolous
5. Andre 3000
6. Rick Ross
7. Joe Budden
8. Lupe Fiasco
9. Pusha-T
10. The Game
11. Jadakiss
12. Big Boi
13. Joell Ortiz
14. 50 Cent
15. Max B
16. Killer Mike
17. Jay Electronica
18. “Royce Da 5′ 9″”"
19. Crooked I
20. T. I.
21. Young Jeezy
22. Mos Def
23. Lloyd Banks
24. Beanie Sigel
25. Freeway
26. Talib Kweli
27. Styles P
28. Gunplay
29. Bun B
30. 2Chainz
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cra31077 Reply:
August 10th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
Yo, in what world do you exist where 50 Cent and Max B (SERIOUSLY, MAX B?!?!?!) are better rappers than Royce, Crooked I, Mos Def and Talib Kweli?! You must be smoking some of that Snoop Lion/Wiz Khalifa shit. On a side note, those niggas took some EPIC L’s this week. For real, WTF are they on?! But back to the matter at hand….not to mention that you have Fabolous at 4!!! GTFOHWTBS. Fab over 3 stacks and Rick Ross?! You must be out your damn mind. Please don’t EVER comment on anything Hip Hop related again. You clearly have no credibility.
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Stymie Reply:
August 10th, 2012 at 4:42 pm
50 may not right at this moment be hotter than 5’9 and Crooked but it’s so many factors that go into “Best Rapper”. I mean 50 first 3-4 albums were the truth. As a lyricist those other dudes got him though. To b real man the last 20 dudes on the list I could put in a bag and they can fall as they may.
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The Legend Reply:
August 10th, 2012 at 1:50 pm
Where’s Cam? Why is Max B even on the list? (Don’t get me wrong he’s nice) Does Fabolous deserve to be on this list? (His decline has been ridiculous) Gunplay? (You can’t be serious). I’m done! Disregard this list!
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Miss Info Reply:
August 10th, 2012 at 4:25 pm
omg. the whole point was that I wasn’t going to just steal the entire list from Complex. So I listed the top 10 and referred to some other entries. Why doesn’t anyone have simple reading comprehension?
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Stymie Reply:
August 10th, 2012 at 4:38 pm
Cam is garbage now. He used to be hot before, during, and slightly after the ROC days. His youngin Vado is dope tho. Fab is ill, he may not have the best albums but overall he’ll rap rings around most rappers. Gunplay is better than 2Chainz to me. He talks crazy but you can tell in his rhymes and the way he act that it’s genuine and not a front. So that’s what I like about him and he just wild.
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ignant Reply:
August 11th, 2012 at 6:17 am
This dude got Gunplay on his list hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha I’m sleep tho
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Miss Info Reply:
August 11th, 2012 at 12:57 pm
lol
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August 10th, 2012 at 9:53 am
WOOOOOOW. How the fuckkkkk did 2 Chainz get above pusha and young jeezy?? he is so shit, its just that he gets cetified beats. hes basically an american sneakbo #JOKEMEN
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August 10th, 2012 at 11:23 am
As with any other Complex list, this one was just a forced article to generate traffic to their website and buzz around their brand. It’s nothing new (and it works every time lol).
I don’t agree or disagree with the list because they never establish what they are speaking of when they say “best”. Best at what? Lyrics? Flow? Delivery? Sales? Tweeting? Media presence? Taking a shit? What? They are entitled to their opinion (if you even wanna call it that).
Btw, I’m pretty confident that Kanye has no problem standing second to Eminem.
http://www.missinfo.tv/index.php/video-kanye-west-talks-to-angie-martinez-on-hot97/ (around 2:35 in the “Kanye on Nicki Minaj” clip)
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Miss Info Reply:
August 10th, 2012 at 4:26 pm
true. good call. I just love that photo of him
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August 10th, 2012 at 11:47 am
Ill be honest..everything since the Shady deal been ass yo. Ya nigga you can spit but musically you make hot shyt garbage as of late..and that’s coming from a Budden/SH fan. Yall just luke warm piss water right now son. Step ur game up
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August 10th, 2012 at 1:46 pm
People look for things like punch lines,word play,Trend setter(clothes,Shoes,ect),Underground,There past music,and who the “future” or buzz.For the Hottest Rappers over 30!
1. Danny Brown in top 10(be real)This blog is the most i have ever heard of him. Besides youtube..cut it out!
2. Chains has no substance in his flow but he has punch lines and Style. He has a big machine behind him..But NOWAY could he out rap any of his old bosses.Luda or Kanye. TOP 10
1.Rick Ross(Total Package)
2.Outkast(BOTH..not just Dre)
3.Kanye
4.Em
5.Fab
6.T.I(total package..needs new album)
7.Game
8.Jeezy(streets)
9.Budden(Lyrics)
10.Ludacris(sales)
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August 11th, 2012 at 12:55 am
if u think cam dont got nomore bombs in his disposal ya trippin, cam is ready to make a real heavy comeback, i just hop ya listen. U.N
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August 11th, 2012 at 1:19 pm
1)Nas
2)Kanye West
3)Eminem
4)Andre 3000
5)Rick Ross
Thats my top 5 for this list. Also, i think Joe Budden is overrated. Especially in his own mind. I respect ppls opinions but i dont think he belongs near top 20. Killer Mike is dope..
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August 13th, 2012 at 12:32 pm
what was this list base on ?
if lyrics than yeah it all wrong if base on over impact in the music right know it not that off a few wrong picks but over lot rappers made there lyrical but no one cares about to even download there mix cd
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August 14th, 2012 at 7:07 pm
Lil’ Wayne isn’t 29. He’s at least 31 (born in 1979). All you have to do is look at his arrest records.
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August 16th, 2012 at 10:20 am
2Chainz at #6?! Yo, nevermind that there’s no way in HELL Tity Boi is better than Pusha or Lupe… but even if in some alternate ass-backwards universe he WAS better, homeboy ain’t even got no album out!!! How the hell does he land at #6 with NO BODY OF WORK TO SPEAK OF?!?!!
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August 24th, 2012 at 8:53 pm
Awesome little blog, keep it up
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