Sun 9 Aug 2009
What lead to the Raekwon and Joe Budden altercation
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(screengrab of Joe Budden’s webcast when Rae and crew walked into the room, via DdotOmen)
Earlier this evening, Joe Budden was broadcasting live on his BlogTV channel, from his dressing room backstage at the Rock the Bells tourstop in San Bernardino when Raekwon and 5 of his crew came in….and, according to Joe, an altercation took place that was caught on tape by Rae’s IceWater TV crew.
Immediately after the incident, Joe fired up his live webcast again, and said:
“They came in here with a goal, to catch the fuckin’ Blog King slippin’, and have the big…punch me in my eye. So I guess it makes me look soft, because I didn’t fight the 6 guys?…them n—as came in here like this was Staten Island…like, do they know where we are?
They gonna come in here, they gonna punch me in the face, then shake my hand. Force an apology out of me. Out of all the times Joe Budden has apologized, that IcewaterTv apology, I didn’t want to do that….then they just gonna go off and perform and do a show? I am a lil’ confused by that.”
Joe seemed to be taking the scuffle in stride, but did say that he was worried about the rest of his Slaughterhouse crew, who may not find the altercation funny. During the webcast, we also hear Joe’s manager Crystal and others discussing how they would proceed with the rest of the tour. They also expressed surprise at Rae’s actions because tensions between Joe Budden and Wu-Tang seemed to be at a cease fire ever since Joe and Method Man had their face-to-face talk backstage at the Jones Beach tourstop on July 19th.
According to sources within the Icewater camp, the motive behind the confrontation was this video that Joe posted right after his talk with Meth [UPDATED NOTE: Mickey Factz has clarified that Raekwon was mistaken about the timing of this video, the video was shot in Boston, the day before the Jones Beach show and the Meth and Joe talk]…as well as Joe’s “No Comment” record, which Raekwon perceived to include subliminal shots towards him.
In the clip, Joe Budden says:
“…being that Method Man was somewhere minding his own business and really didn’t have anything to do with the point I was trying to get across I owe him an apology…now, I’m done talking about the entire Method Man, Slaughterhouse, Wu-Tang, everything. Joe Budden is wiping his hands clean of it. From this point forward, if anyone of them n—as say something to me that I do not like, or if any one of them say my name in a negative light, the peace treaty is over, and the no comment is over….Slaughterhouse vs Wu-Tang s–t is blasphemous. but I’m no chump….if n—as are gonna keep saying, oh, Joe Budden look like he’s callin’ the cops….Method Man, I apologize…but anybody else associated with that n—a, who feels like my name can just roll out of their f—ing mouth…do it from now on, and it won’t be nothing Royce or Crook can do to stop what I’m gonna do.“
RELATED: Joe Budden’s song “No Comment” which was recorded before the peace-talk with Method Man. (via Nahright)
UPDATE: More angry confrontations just popped off backstage after Raekwon’s set. According to witnesses, Busta Rhymes is trying to calm down Raekwon and Crooked-I is trying to calm down Joe Budden…
UPDATE 2: here’s 93.5 KDay personality, Devi Dev’s timeline from backstage…
UPDATE 3: The police did not arrest anyone, Slaughterhouse were able to get onstage and do their performance. (I’ll let you know if the drama was mentioned on stage later)
After the jump….watch a clip of Joe Budden talk about his injury, his apology, and then Joe hears what Raekwon and crew said to Rock the Bells staff after the incident…
(Rock the Bell’s staff) “[Rae said] ‘Yo, on my children, no one was supposed to get touched, dude got jumpy, touched him, shouldn’ta happened, that was not my intention.’” (Joe)“Why are you telling me this? I hope you’re not insinuating what I think you’re insinuating…”


August 9th, 2009 at 12:11 am
Info, I hope you make this a fair story. I know you love Wu…. But is there ever a reason to snuff somebody, over someone else’s beef and adding the No comment song at the end of this is a lil’ sketchy…I’m keepin’ it 100.
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Miss Info Reply:
August 9th, 2009 at 12:26 am
I’m being very fair. both are at fault. no comment is part of Rae’s motive. What part of this is “sketchy”? I’m not condoning Rae’s crew’s action in any way shape or form. Don’t read what’s not printed.
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Big Reply:
August 9th, 2009 at 12:34 am
Since when did it not be ok to address hip hop beef on wax? Like really!! there is no dual fault here.. Why didnt Rae or his crew feel the need to do this on any of the east coast dates? Why wait until Joe is on blogtv alone in his trailer with a Dj and another rapper alone.. Nothing about this can be respected… NOT ONE THING… NOTHING ABOUT THIS IS UNDERSTANDABLE…
Rae could have said yo Budden come outside my mans want to shoot you a fair one and let them square up one on one and left it at that but to hit him mid sentence from the side in Los Angeles LIKE ITS STILL beef over a fucking record IS WEAK!!
This makes Meth look like a damsel in distress, this makes Rae look like a sucka and this just makes it seem like the Wu is trying to ride the slaughter house press wave…
Joe Budden is annoying BUT REALLY NOTHING ABOUT THIS IS GULLY OR HARD!!
INTERNET SNUFF VIDEOS BEEN PLAYED OUT SINCE 2005..
Method Man LOSS
RAE LOST
WU LOST
Only a lame could see this any other way…
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snitchkilla Reply:
August 9th, 2009 at 2:08 am
Do you know what being from the streets is even about? This ain’t a high school fight. “Shoot him a fair one”, hahahahaha. Since when does that happen. Niggas get stomped out and jumped everyday in the hood. Ya’ll niggas must be from the burbs. Joe ran his mouth and he got tapped by some of meths squad. That’s how it goes. You want meth to do it himself, so Joe can get on TV and dry-snitch about being assaulted by method man? Ya’ll niggas need to separate ideas from reality…. Reality is that dudes get jumped and fucked up for opening their mouth about people they don’t know. They lucky they went light on him. Cause I seen what happens when you get six niggas on one nigga in a fight. They was just sending him a lil warning. And it don’t matter where it took place. That’s how it goes. Where ever you see a nigga is where you handle him. LA, DC, NY, Africa… It don’t matter. Joe need to stop running to the blog all the damn time like a fake ass news reporter. Snitch ass nigga.
Xenophon Reply:
August 9th, 2009 at 3:41 am
^Co-sign….Rae prolly pays attention to street hop rules, not hip hop….and my next week’s paycheck says it was Clyde Smith who tapped Joe’s eye….
No shots, really….but how could you not expect this at some point???
YouNG-FRESH2D Reply:
August 9th, 2009 at 9:48 am
The thing that most people don’t get is, if you attack someone verbally or physically, you do not get to choose how they retaliate.
When you label someone a “rapper” and think the only way they choose to deal with beef is through wax you end up with a black eye, cuts or bruises.
Joe Budden is smart enough to know that when he made those comments about Meth, no good was going to come from it, period.
Meth is an affiliated dude so the Wu would weigh in, when you’ve got that many street dudes debating a disrespectful comment that was aimed in their direction, this is the only outcome.
Rae did not smack Joe Budden, and has said that that wasn’t the mans intention. Somebody in Rae’s camp snuffed Joe so it’s important to point that out someone in Rae’s camp snuffed Joe budden not Rae did xyz…Rae was right to confront Joe Budden to air out their differences. It’s only sore eye he’ll get over it.
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THE INDIVIDUALS Reply:
August 10th, 2009 at 10:13 am
People been getting beat down for running off at the mouth since the beginning of time! When you talk shit about an Artist you can hurt their sales, and if you hurt their sales you are taking food from their family. Fucking with a Nigga’s money is a death sentence! Everybody is not going to play with you in this world! It is what it is! Don’t let your mouth write a check that your ass can’t cash!
PUNKS JUMP UP TO GET BEAT DOWN!!!!
WU TANG CLAN AINT NOTHING TO FUCK WITH!!!!
What up Miss Info?
Latarian Trillton Reply:
August 9th, 2009 at 12:37 am
Nah homie if you’re documenting the chain of events to give the full backstory why wouldn’t you post the song so people can hear what might have been taken the wrong way? Its called balanced journalism bruh.
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Big Reply:
August 9th, 2009 at 10:47 am
I just dont get where some of you clowns are from (AVON AVE, NEWARK NJ HERE) SO YOU KNOW MY FUCKIN HOOD!!!
THIS WAS WACK GET HIM WHEN IT FIRST POP OFF DONT WATCH HIS WEB CAM SHOW, WAIT UNTIL THE COAST IS CLEAR AND THEN SNUFF HIM.. NIGGAS LIKE YOU IS WHATS WRONG WITH THE STREETS TODAY A BUNCH OF SUCKAS RUNNING AROUND!!
SO LETS SEE DUDE RUN HIS MOUTH–YOU SEE HIM 10 TIMES AND SET UP DATES TO TOUR WITH HIM–HAVE MORE THAN ONE CHANCE TO GET IT POPPIN HOOD STYLE AS THE CLOWN ABOVE SAID–BUT YOU WAIT UNTIL YOU’RE RECORDING A DVD OR WHATEVER WHILE WATCHING HIM ON BLOGTV ALONE IN HIS TRAILER AND THATS HOOD? THATS GULLY? I DONT KNOW WHERE THE FUCK YOU FROM BUT THATS FUCKING GAY!! THAT SHIT IS WEAK..
THOSE NOT REAL STREET NIGGAS THOSE PUNK ASS STREET NIGGAS!! SO MANY PEOPLE CONFUSED ABOUT WHATS REAL THESE DAYS NIGGAS NEED TO TAKE A CLASS IN MANHOOD 101 NO FUCKING PARTS OF SNUFFEN A NIGGA MID SENTENCE WHEN ITS ONLY HIM IN THE FUCKING ROOM BY HIS FUCKING SELF IS REAL…
So kill that “he talked about hood niggas he got touched” DUMBNESS YOU BAFOON!!Next Rae gone come out and say if Joe wanted to fight dude we wasn’t gone do nothing like yeah right if that was the can come solo and t-off on him or have that chump shoot him a fair one..
you morons have no clue these days
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Mill Heezy Reply:
August 9th, 2009 at 1:12 pm
@Big
Firstly, your comment is what flame wars are made of. Do you really think that you can insult someone enough into believing you? Some of the things that you were saying may have had some merit but the insults didn’t strengthen your point. They only made you look angry and less intelegent.
Secondly, who brags about being from “THE HOOD” other than those that aspire to be there their entire lives. I’m from “THE WILD HUNNETS” in Chicago, who cares about that. Being from here has not given me any super powers and there are both strong and weak here. Just because you don’t know what region every is from doesn’t mean anything and FYI I actually don’t “KNOW YOUR FUCKIN HOOD!!!”.
Thirdly, YOUR CAPS LOCK BUTTON IS BROKEN.
Now, onto the subject matter.
Rae’s biggest issue was with the video that came out around the 18th or 19th of last month (about 2 weeks ago) addressing everyone else that may have had a problem with him other than Method Man. This may have been the first time that they’ve met up since that video was released. This voids most of your message.
The fact of the matter is that Joe got snuffed (and he actually wasn’t by himself but whatever). He said some things that if he had not said, he wouldn’t have ended up in the situation.
Since you’re the official of manhood. Where’s the part in the manhood manual that says that if you get punched, apologize, and not swing back, you should immediately sit in a yoga pose, while holding an ice bag to your face and profess to the world why you got a spanking?
PS You’re really hood reading and replying on a blog.
Big Reply:
August 10th, 2009 at 6:04 am
Follow the conversation better and brush up on your reading comprehension skills before you address anything I say again! I’m a long way from the hood and never put that part of my life on no pedestal was just addressing a moron and now look, I’m addressing a moron again!!
If rae had issue he would have addressed it 10x’s ago BUT LETS BE CLEAR!! (CAPS LOCK BROKE AGAIN) BUDDEN HAS THE RIGHT TO SAY WHATEVER THE FUCK HE WANTS TO SAY EMO ASS NIGGAS —SO LETS FOLLOW THIS— BUDDEN STATES HIS FUCKING OPINION— IF THERE WASN’T SOME TRUTH TO IT PEOPLE WOULD HAVE JUST SAID HES A NUT AND LET IT GO— YOU KNOW LIKE NATE ROBINSON SAYING HE’S BETTER THAN LEBRON OR BETTER YET RUBEN PATTERSON BEING THE KOBE STOPPER (FOLLOW SO FAR)— SO PEOPLE GOT EMO AND TOOK OFFENSE TO IT BECAUSE 16 BARS RIGHT NOW BUDDENS WOULD EAT THAT NIGGA —SO ANYWAY BUDDENS SAID YOU KNOW WHAT I APOLOGIZE METH IS A LEGEND— I GUESS–LEGEND MUST MEAN HE SURVIVED HIP HOP FOR OVER 15YRS BECAUSE I’M NOT SURE IF A MOMENT MAKES YOU A LEGEND IF SO SPECIAL ED AND DAS EFFECTS ARE LEGENDS BUT WHATEVER HE TOLD METH YO MY BAD LEFT IT ALONE MET DUDE HELL EVEN MET RAE— NOW LETS SEE THE ENTIRE WU HAS AN OPINION COOL AS THEY SHOULD—HE MEETS WITH RAE—RAE SAYS SOME SHIT ABOUT HIM CALLING THE COPS—MEANING HE BASICALLY JUST TOOK ADVANTAGE OF SOMEONE HE KNEW HE COULD GET AWAY WITH IT WITH ANOTHER SUCKA ASS MOVE—BUDDEN TOOK OFFENSE TO WHAT RAE SAID AS HE SHOULD—HE SPITS ANOTHER DOPE 32—THOSE DUDES WAIT 10 DATES (NEARLY A MONTH) AND GO INTO A ROOM 6 DEEP WITH A CAMERA—WHEN THEY KNOW HE’S ALONE—REAL HOOD—NOT TO MENTION ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE COUNTRY— SNUFF BUDDENS—AS IF ANYONE IN THEY RIGHT MIND GONE RISK GETTING JUMPED BY 6 DUDES WHEN HE GOT A SHOW TO PUT ON—BUDDEN EATS THAT NOW RAE SOME HOOD NIGGA WHO DEFENDING THE HONOR OF METH AND YOU KIDS ARE REALLY BUYING THAT? THAT’S A FUCKING SHAME!
(CAPS LOCK UNBROKE) This was an ultra bad publicity stunt like Rick Ross dissing 50 and anyone with half a brain can see that which is why this will do more harm to Rae efforts to sell his album that only 10 people are checking for anyway.. If it wasn’t a gay setup why bring a camera and if dude who snuffed buddens wasn’t security gassed up what was he.. Here is hood if you must know maino going to Brooklyn seeing Lil Cease on a fucking corner telling him to put his shit down whooping his ass getting back in his car and going home then not speaking on it, not sure I expect that tape to leak soon.. GET IT? Naah probably not another great waste of logic!
I’m not hood at all just in love with miss info I got a fetish for spinners.. Oh and info dont you dare say your the best at what you do you might get shot!
Big Reply:
August 10th, 2009 at 6:21 am
Info, Do you think these kids get the fact that by having a bodyguard Punch joe they validated HIS ENTIRE ARGUMENT!!
They want to take it to the streets but wont go no where near a booth!! Oh wait they called him a house nigger VERY ORIGINAL!!!
THE INDIVIDUALS Reply:
August 10th, 2009 at 10:24 am
What Up Big? We get your point but every Nigga is not going to play! You can’t walk around where you are from talking shit or you will have to fight or shoot! Right or wrong?
Coming from Chicago has given us Super Powers! We are faster than a big mouth lame, more powerful than a bitch made Nigga, and able to shut up sucker MCs with a single slap!
THE INDIVIDUALS Reply:
August 10th, 2009 at 10:44 am
Big you know that Joe was out of pocket for bringing up Meth when Meth did nothing to him! The only reason some people like Joe is because he is a part of this new movement of disrespect that the youth are following! If Joe tried to fuck with our reputation or money we would knock that Niggaz noodles out his dome and it wouldn’t matter if we were right or wrong! Who gives a fuck? If it’s fuck us it’s fuck you! This is really good for the youth because they need to know to NOT talk shit if they aint ready for trouble! Keep the dissing on wax and don’t bring up another Niggaz name for no reason other than to get media press for yourself! If you have a sister she can’t just go around slapping men for no reason and then think you will help her! Slaughterhouse should check their boy Joe! No disrespect to Joe but he should chill with the name dropping and just make Music!
Method Man is a part of this 420 Movement so we are riding with the Wu Tang regardless!
Mill Heezy Reply:
August 10th, 2009 at 1:35 pm
@Big
Now that we’ve insulted enough can we engage in dialogue?
Rae was no Rambo going in with more people and having a bodygaurd, Roady, whatever hit Joe (whether it was on his on free will or not). IMO they are both clowns (Rae and Joe) and neither of them come out looking better.
For the record. Joe would murder Rae in a battle but the thing about battling nowadays is that it is very costly for the person that loses. This isn’t 1983 this is 2009. It’s more than pride, it’s now a business. Joe was trying to take a bite out of their franchise and being mad disrespectful at the same time. Rae obviously felt the need to meet that with brute force.
IMO it was probably wiser in theory for Joe to not swing back but it would have been a wiser move to not even start the nonsense to begin with. In practice I find it hard to believe that Joe didn’t retaliate physically with him depicting this very incident in a recent verse where he says he’ll lay a hollow on their crew for laying hands on him.
They both lose.
Big Reply:
August 10th, 2009 at 4:14 pm
@IND
I feel you straight up but that’s based on the idea that Joe was actually fucking with Wu money who actually believes that? If they believed that then that means maybe Budden aint as garbage as some would like to write him off as being.. But its not like Joe got on the radio and just said blah blah blah he was reading a list and saying dudes he thought he was better than. I guess cats should hunt punae down and split his wig for being a youtube clown, get where I’m going with this? I don’t think Joe mentioned Meth for press for himself he’s a vloger dude puts his bedroom on vlogs and his girl with the nice ass on vlogs the camera was rolling at the time they went through that list where he was voicing his displeasure with his position on some corny list he wasn’t selling anything when he said it just being matter of fact about it.. Kinda like that dude who watches the NBA draft every year and when cats go before him say to his homeboys “I’d eat dude I saw him at the North Vs South game and gave him 30” but the camera wasn’t rolling its whatever the fact that dudes got emo is what made it a story…
I agree that you can’t talk shit about people my only point is if dude was soo pressed he had mad chances to do the same thing, why wait so long? That’s the part that don’t smell right, you know? Why wait until he’s on blogtv, everybody left, just him a corny rapper and a DJ now you gas security to snuff him? That’s not hood, that’s not real, that’s not respectable, that’s corny… I don’t mind a dude getting his head cracked that’s fine but waiting until you got a camera and dude solo on the other side of the country aint the way to go. If he was so angry he should have snuffed him when they first sat down.. I don’t think we’ll ever reach a place of common ground on how real shady this was but that’s cool I’ll concede the point… Dig this based on your point KRS 1 should get slapped for saying Nelly trash if that’s what he felt at the time and Ice T should get slapped for speaking on Soulja Boy there cant be a double standard here saying you not feeling someone is not generation exclusive, there is plenty of it going around these days…
@Mill
Great the insults are over and budden is a great battle rapper but not necessarily a great selector of album material.. His best work so far might be that Mood Music Mixtape and a few tracks off his last album.. There is a dual loss I agree and if there was no camera and this happened say during the very next event after Budden’s said he was going in then shit I’m cool with that it seems to me that people aren’t getting my frustration with this.. Which is basically that yo this wasn’t how an OG should move this entire situation seems like a corny plotted setup meaning they really put thought into this, had joe budden on they mind, got the camera ready and thought this was cool because you cant match 16’s with a dude.. Here you go—beef over—this is all they had to say—“LET JOE BUDDEN MOVE NUMBERS LIKE WU OR SELL OUT JAPAN LIKE WU THEN I’LL ADDRESS HIM”—situation dead better yet say “LET JOE BUDDEN HAVE ONE CLASSIC MAINSTREAM SUCCESS” that’s pretty much it instead of old ass niggas getting emo damn near 40 setting dudes up to get snuffed like they 19 that’s just corny and that’s the part I don’t feel..
As for the bitting off their franchise part, name the last relevant thing Wu did? The Wu is like the fucking temptations there are several versions of it touring all around the world, one guy here another guy here another guy there etc etc there is no Wu franchise the movement has passed. But lets say that there is for argument sake, ok? Do you really think Joe Budden’s comment had that much of an effect on a person buying a ticket to see GZA perform in Bucharest? The same person that bought Jarule tickets is now buy 50 cent tickets and will go see Jarule tomorrow if he was in a city near you..All they are doing is validating Joe Budden that’s it! The smartest thing you said was this isn’t 1983 and Kane (My all time favorite by the way) isn’t doing other NY dudes video outta respect for the culture and cats not battling in the parks no more for bragging right.. Dudes cant rhyme so they insecure and emo so instead of addressing it like men and responding on record they want to act like at 40yrs old with homes, wives and kids are still the most gully on the block, that’s corny!
I agree they both lose—sorry for the disrespect there is nothing cool or hood about this situation and real dudes know that… What Maino did is how adult street dudes handle their problems, no guns, no cameras, no setup just shoot me the one and lets move on! THE END!
Big Reply:
August 10th, 2009 at 4:26 pm
Here is another major point to all this that people are missing after Rae and Joe first sit down he said “I think the kid would call the cops” now if he really felt that way like budden was a punk why go outta ya way to set him up and tape it? Why pick on someone you know you or think you can beat? Thats a sucka move….
I had more respect for Rae but thats fucking gone a bootleg for OB4CL wont even touch my ipod..
Mill Heezy Reply:
August 10th, 2009 at 5:04 pm
@Big
The fact that Wu isn’t what it used to be is more of a reason to act out of desperation than if they were cruising on yachts.
I bought Joe Buddens last project and I’ll buy OB4CL2. This fiasco hasn’t altered my views on their music. Even though Wu is not making huge waves anymore it doesn’t make me look down on em. What group from that era is still making waves? What they brought to the game has had a major impact on hip hop.
My major issue with Joe on this one is how he decided to hop on a vlog after the incident. I’m tired of his antics. I defended him throughout the Saigon demo but after that I said enough is enough. Joe is smart and knows the impact that his words have on people (as far as p’ing them off). He played a little too close to the fire on this one.
Had he not said what he said he would not have been punched. “Simple and plain”. When 50 talks mess he beefs up the security. 6 guys couldn’t roll up on 50 and his crew.
I’d actually like to hear Rae’s POV. Maybe the footage will surface (not likely).
Big Reply:
August 10th, 2009 at 5:51 pm
@Mill
Thats really no diss to Wu everyone falls off you cant be ontop forever!!!
Joe is annoying and its about time he got his ass kicked I totally agree but not like this.. this was a sucka move!
Before 50 was anybody and was doing the tunnel before he got shot he was dissing the Wu long before the security so again there is no basis for this they picked on someone they felt very confident they could beat you cant respect that! At least 50 talk shit about Nas and Kiss dudes he cant win against.. I dont know maybe I’m getting old..
If everybody is 5%ers and we all gods with 6 moons based on Rae logic then a fellow god has the right to do and say what he wants.
Rae lost my respect with this so he lost my 11 bucks on itunes but thats just me. I’ll support slaughter house album just because I’ve had it for a week and would see a project like this move 250k and be the top album in the country that would be good for hip hop..
Papito Reply:
August 10th, 2009 at 3:26 pm
Joe deserved what he got. Joe nor slaughterhouse are aggressors, they turn into vic’s. And they cant rhyme better than the wu! Budeens been out for like 3 years now, when has he gone platinum? Rae has! And Joe and got the back like the Wu! And crooked I on crack, He talkin bout dont nobody diss SH in the West coast….hello! Joe gettin punched in the face is gettin dissedon the west coast when it goes down in san bernadino. Slaughterhouse is pussies…..Only built for cuban links part 2 will go platinum regardless of what ever you feel or how your feelin got hurt…take that nigga. And Big I am sure you wont say shit to the Wu if you saw them!
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August 9th, 2009 at 12:25 am
“Why are you telling me this? I hope you’re not insinuating what I think you’re insinuating…”
??????????someone explain
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Miss Info Reply:
August 9th, 2009 at 12:29 am
It seems to me that Joe was scoffing at Rae’s explanation to the Rock the Bells staff.
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JJ Reply:
August 10th, 2009 at 3:36 pm
hes basically saying “why the fuck isnt Rae telling me face to face?”
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August 9th, 2009 at 12:25 am
This stuff is better than reality TV.
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mertz Reply:
August 11th, 2009 at 3:47 pm
i know. but reality is supposedly the way of the future. i’m so sad for actual art. everything is dead right now. the internet is killing everything and making it anew.
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August 9th, 2009 at 12:27 am
lol…only in hiphop
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mertz Reply:
August 11th, 2009 at 3:48 pm
true.
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August 9th, 2009 at 12:31 am
Miss Info,
Just wanted to clarify something. The video blog w/Mickey Factz was actually recorded @ the Boston Rock The Bells. When Joe made that statement, it was in Boston. The very next day was the NY Rock The Bells in Jones Beach. That’s when Meth & Joe peaced up. I know this because I was watching that blog live when Joe made that statement in Boston w/Mickey Factz sitting next to him.
Please clarify this for the greater audience. In short, Joe made that statement 1 day before him & Meth peaced up.
Thanks.
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Big Reply:
August 10th, 2009 at 6:22 am
THAT COMMENT CAME AFTER THAT OTHER CORNY WU NIGGA GOT ON STAGE IN JONES BEACH AND SAID FUCK JOE BUDDENS!!
This is crazy!!
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August 9th, 2009 at 12:31 am
Not sure if you read these comments miss… But things getting worst.. Joe looks like hes ready to tear Rae Up… COB is in the building DEEP.. Why would they do this on the west coast?? I’ll get @ your twitter check it…
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Miss Info Reply:
August 9th, 2009 at 12:36 am
Crooked I is friends with Raekwon, so actually from what Devi Dev from Kday says from backstage….Crooked and Raekwon had a convo prior to the latest screaming match
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August 9th, 2009 at 12:34 am
I knew you would have he info on it first Ms. Info!!!
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August 9th, 2009 at 12:37 am
Joe Budden got caught Slippin, simple as that, that’s the streets, whenever,where-ever, however! you talkin all that trash, please people are not from the streets aint gona understand it! “they came in here acting like it was Staten Island, they don’t nowhere we at!” lol NewsFlash “Joey-you-so-tough” it never matters ahh ask Briscoe!
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Johnjr Reply:
August 9th, 2009 at 12:54 am
Thats 100 right there. You run your mouth sooner or later your gonna get it. An you don’t get to choose when, were, or how. And real dudes don’t care if it’s in your momas house.
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andre Reply:
August 9th, 2009 at 2:39 am
omg now you got guys talking about the street rules over the blog.smh
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andre Reply:
August 9th, 2009 at 2:54 am
the problem with that whole “it’s the streets” thing is that this is not a street incident. dude said Im nicer than that guy…the appropriate response to that is a diss record proving he’s not nicer if its something you take so seriously.
August 9th, 2009 at 12:37 am
I’m very disapointed at Rae for this one. That was a very week and soft move on his part. If he just came to talk then he shouldve left them dudes outside the door. He knew what was going to happen.
I’m also disapointed at Joey too gettin hit then apologize. They wouldve had to beat my ass to a pulp ain’t no way I ain’t fighting back. He shouldve punched Rae ass and just took the beat down
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August 9th, 2009 at 12:38 am
Them Slaughterhouse niggas ain’t committed enough to that cause to wage war against Wu-Tang. It’s a matter of respect, which obviously Budden hasn’t mastered yet.
Budden needs to fall back, ice his eye, and focus on his career.
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sin Reply:
August 9th, 2009 at 5:09 pm
IDK,,,, we’ll see how committed Slaughterhouse is,,,,, WU treated a blog comment against one of theirs as a slap in the face to ALL of the WU,,,, Now the question is,,, How is SlaughterHouse gonna respond to one of theirs getting completely WHORED
If Royce and Crooked just turn they back, or back down,,, They look even more bitch than Joey appologising on ICEWATERTV,,,, Frankly Joey shoulda just said fuck you an accepted the ass whooping
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August 9th, 2009 at 12:40 am
yea this wasn’t a good look but I think people knew sooner or lata Joe was gonna come to blows with someone almost with Saigon… I just think if he is really claiming to be a battle emcee he need to really put money on the table get some judges and sett up some battling niccas shyt and quit bloogging ustreaming all that talking and droppin lil slight comments about artists in general. If this doesn’t show niccas that talking up shyt and getting buzz shyt poppin isn’t hip hop that’s some marketing persons job and emcess need to really stick to mcing and say what they say on the MIC and start seriously squaring off lyrically and quit playing games there’s sharks out here in real life don’t play niccas got hood it aint no kill a nicca shyt get back to the lyrics that’s waz good and we knwo alot of rappers should watch what they say and cannot do chill No violence fa real Peace
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August 9th, 2009 at 12:41 am
joe budden should stay away from computers for 30 days, and see how it feels. start new, no black n blue.
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mertz Reply:
August 11th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
lol. so true. i should take that advice too.
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August 9th, 2009 at 12:43 am
All Joe Budden does is play that slut roll…slap hands and hug when everyones around then throw shots when nobody’s there to punch him in his eye…which happened tonight..you talk that gangsta shit and cant handle it…and you got punched lol…No solo album ever again for this jigaboo shuck and jive ass coon
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August 9th, 2009 at 12:43 am
joe kno wut he be sayin to piss ppl off he far frm dumb. . .thas my dude but he def knew what he was doin ut it was corny for chef to come 5 deep and shit
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August 9th, 2009 at 12:48 am
This kinda stuff from Joe don’t surprise me. He is always into some kinda bs. He is constantly running his mouth about sombody, like he has it like that. It caught up with him, serves him right. Good for wu. Kinda funny how he was not so hard when he was dolo, but back stage he was a tough guy. Corn Ball.
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August 9th, 2009 at 12:49 am
My opinion:
1) Not a bitchmove on rae’s part. If there’s grown n*ggas in his crew, every man controls themselves. You cant tell someone NOT to do something… but nevermind that…
2) I thought mentioning someone’s name on camera after an altercation was “dry-snitching”. Even if he didnt say Rae hit him, by mentioning his name & that (said person) was there, arent you giving leads for the “authorities” to investigate the matter & question that person?
3) Freedom of Speech & yada yada yada, but everyone doesnt take negativity the same. You say the wrong thing to the wrong person, expect something to happen.
4) I guess some people dont know about the Wu-Tang’s glory days in the 90s… google it [lol]
-God Bless
Kid Novice (AKA “yeah, I said it”)
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JB Reply:
August 9th, 2009 at 1:20 am
yeah right but honestly Joe actually stirs up their star power he does them a favor! i haven’t thought about wu tang clan since ODB died!
he does the same stuff as 50 did it doesn’t mean its okay to lay your hands on anyone take it out on wax and get paid for the response.
like back in the day wit LL and Cannibus there were plenty of battles that didn’t involve a hands on altercation
and the one that did were horrific and unacceptable.
who shot scott la rock? 2pac, big, and stack bundles just to name a few??
over WORDS?? dayumm stop that madness!
i can’t respect that foul ass punk move from the other side
i hope it gets resolved in court! cause its BS
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snitchkilla Reply:
August 9th, 2009 at 2:15 am
This dude (Kid Novice) knows what he’s talking about. Hell yeah its dry snitchin. You talk shit and get handled, then you suppose to just eat that loss. Everybody takes L’s from time to time. All these dudes that ain’t from the streets talking that, “it’s a weak move on Rae’s part”, GTFOH. That’s how shit is handled in the streets. If you don’t know that, then you ain’t from there.
@JB….
“gets resolved in court”?????? lmao. What kind of pussy shit is that? Who thinks like that, but a sucka. You def ain’t hood my dude. That gotta be the lamest shit I ever heard….. hahahahahaha
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JB Reply:
August 9th, 2009 at 2:47 am
lol
wutever snitchkilla
SMH… its still unnecessary and unacceptable
and for those with a mind frame like that will stay in da streetz cuz ya can’t pull that crap in adult life and or the corporate world
there are better ways to handle a he said she said situation and when it becomes violent or escalates into a physical altercation it ceases to be entertainment….
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Mill Heezy Reply:
August 9th, 2009 at 1:15 pm
I was with you until you said that it ceases to be entertainment lol.
snitchkilla Reply:
August 9th, 2009 at 1:25 pm
who is it unacceptable to? Its acceptable from people from that lifestyle. They are both adults, they are both from the streets, they are both rappers. They know what can happen in this particular genre of music. If you live by the sword you die (or in this case get punched) by the sword. No one says there aren’t BETTER ways to handle it, but there are better ways to handle a lot of shit. There was a “better” way to handle Iraq. Bush decided he’d rather do the war thing (violence). Violence has always been, and forever will be a way of handling confrontations. If Joe wouldn’t have tried “talking” all tough, then they might not have came with a tough response. The lesson here is watch what you say, cause sometimes words are more aggressive than actions. See, that’s the problem. Hip hop ain’t just entertainment. Its a lifestyle which includes expressing that lifestyle through rap music.
sin Reply:
August 9th, 2009 at 5:15 pm
Ok,,,, as far as sayin rae’s name as a dry snitch move,,,,, He was tapped on Icewater tv,,, the news of what occured was gonna come out,,,, I think Joey might of felt that it would be better to get his side out first before you saw him begging for forgiveness and let Rae’s grew decide how to portray it
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mertz Reply:
August 11th, 2009 at 3:53 pm
cosign.
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August 9th, 2009 at 1:00 am
PAUSE Rae for that
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August 9th, 2009 at 1:01 am
Say what you want.. I knew too much TV and Blog talk was going to get Joe Budden snuffed. Right or wrong, every dog has his day. Shut up with all the lame blogs and just make music. But in my opinion, he got what he was looking for and now all the blah, blah, blah its started to make him look very lame!
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August 9th, 2009 at 1:04 am
Miss Info, please refer to one of the comments above that corrects your false information about the date of the video that supposedly sparked Raekwon’s anger. That video was recorded 1 whole day before Joe and Meth spoke in person, not ‘after’ like you published.
Please fix it so that the true facts can be taken into account.
thanks
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Miss Info Reply:
August 9th, 2009 at 1:18 am
werd? but the log-date on the onsmash file is the 19th. Which was the same date as the Jones Beach show….was this early on the same day? hmmm. let me ask around.
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Correction Reply:
August 9th, 2009 at 1:52 am
thanks for readin and replying to this. I’m glad to help, of course there will be conflicting accounts as to when it was first recorded, but the truth is that it was recorded on July 18. The onsmash file or any other site’s videos were all recorded from Joe’s blogtv account and re-posted(very common), which is where the file originated.
Blogtv keeps track of when stuff was recorded and here’s a link to the original video location.
It was “CREATED:
Jul 18, 2009 ” at the Boston show. Jones Beach was the next day.
http://www.blogtv.com/Shows/817536/Y23wbeZEaeXvbe_wbX&pos=ancr
thanks again for reading this, hope it helps!
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Miss Info Reply:
August 9th, 2009 at 1:56 am
very helpful! thank you!
August 9th, 2009 at 1:12 am
I don’t understand how people figure Budden dry snitched just because he did a video blog. Even if he didn’t, you don’t think Rae’s crew would have put out their footage? I mean, their dumb asses DID record the whole thing (admissible evidence). If anything, they snitched on themselves.
For the record, NO ONE WON in this case. It’s a wash. I’d almost say Rae lost because if he didn’t intend for things to come to blows, he would have come alone…I mean, he just wanted to “talk”, right? Whatever.
I don’t give a shit. Slaughterhouse album is good and I hope Rae’s is good too.
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August 9th, 2009 at 1:50 am
JOE BUDDEN on the D.O.A freestyle on Green Lantern:
“aviod the personal and physical attacks homie
BRAND NEW i aint got a scratch on me!
Lay your hands on me
i’ll lay a hollow on you”
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Miss Info Reply:
August 9th, 2009 at 1:55 am
thanks for the lyric reference! I’m glad I have sharp eyes/ears readers like you…because honestly, I am terrible with remembering lyrics. (or anything else for that matter)
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August 9th, 2009 at 2:04 am
Its like this: People are talking about this situation. For 1, Joe Budden is one of the most arrogant artists that I have come in contact with in a long time. He doesn’t seem to understand that there is a time and place for everything.
I heard someone say that Wutang, and/or Rae has not been relevant. This is nonsense- The whole Wutang Clan has fans worldwide that have been supporting them for 10 years plus- just because u don’t hear something on hot 97 doesn’t mean its not playing in Japan or Indonesia- expand ur outlook on life. The world stretches farther than America.
Also, it doesn’t matter how or when Joe got caught slippin. If ur from the hood, which both parties claim to be, then u know, slippin is slippin. Everyone wants to claim to be some kind of Boss in Hip Hop, so lets explain it this way: Do u think Al Capone went to personally put hands on his foes- no, because he’s the boss. The realest thing he can do is just to be there. Its a real sucker move if he’s there, but just sends soldiers without his presence. Rae was sending a message. The universal message that u can be touched even far from home and on unknown ground.
If Joe was smart, he would just be quiet and leave the situation alone like it never happened, but he’s not- I already heard him talking tough again into the camera making subliminal threats. This guy doesn’t learn or maybe he doesn’t know about the Wu. He should read up about some of their altercations in the 90’s- he actually got off easy.
To all of u talking Rae is soft and that was a punk move, consider this he came wit the goons into a venue and got the enemy even with uniformed officers outside- thats old school gangsta. Don’t get me wrong, I know that its bad for Hip Hop, but sometimes, theres only one way for people to learn a lesson. Joe Budden talks the kind of Shit that only a legend like LL would be able to talk and L still remains humble. Joe Budden lacks humility. If he would learn some, he would be on his way to becoming a well rounded artist, but he has been traveling the globe pissing people off. Research what he did when he went to Boston to do a show. Ask Ed OG how he felt about Joe Budden’s performance there and how he had to tell the goons not to hurt him. Joe Budden told Boston Killers that they had to get off the stage because he knows how to fight- they all looked at Ed OG like- can we get him- Ed saved him that night.
Basically, I like Joe Budden as an artist, but the way he interacts with all people can only eventually bring out the kind of response that he experienced today.
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mertz Reply:
August 11th, 2009 at 3:57 pm
100%.
lol. joe budden did the same when he came to toronto. i don’t know how many people looking favourably upon dude, but come on. wu nukkas are gonna set some things straight. unfortunately, but that’s the way it is. i’m not surprised all this went down. sad. hahah aand he’s still talking. smdh.
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mr_wayne Reply:
August 12th, 2009 at 5:43 am
Looking @ things from this perspective makes me think about the situation differently. I like how this was put.
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Kwest Allah Reply:
April 30th, 2010 at 3:34 pm
truest post on this board… cosign to death.
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August 9th, 2009 at 2:11 am
ima big joe budden fan an im a rae fan but the bottom line s joe budden shouldnt have came out his mouth talking shit right after he made peace with meth i mean he was talking big shit so he got what he deserve
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August 9th, 2009 at 2:14 am
MissInfo, there is nothing on Joe Budden’s part that he did wrong. Nigga called them out on some lyrical shit and they caught feelings and got physical. Rae ain’t right at all and it makes the Wu look weak.
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sin Reply:
August 9th, 2009 at 5:54 pm
I love the Wu,,,, maybe the greatest most influentail group outside of NWA,,,, but truth is,,, this is how they’d have to handel this… I mean,,,, who was the last artist they ate alive on track,,,, Deck dissed Joe,,, Gza Dissed 50,,,,,,,,not impressive efforts by either of em,,,,,on the other side Slaughterhouse has a couple MC’s that have a track record of visiously eating MC’s
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August 9th, 2009 at 2:19 am
It’s crazy , nigga can’t call a nigga out for a battle without it coming to blows and that’s cool. Niggas kill me.
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THE ONE Reply:
August 9th, 2009 at 2:32 am
I feel u, but its not that simple. Joe made a comment about ODB’s lyrical skills, which really threw fuel on the fire. I def think he should be able to call out MCs without any violence, thats what Hip Hop’s about and was founded on. But seriously, if a new MC made a comment about Biggie’s lyrical skills, what do u think would happen to him in Brooklyn? If a new DJ made a comment about Scott La Rock’s DJing skills, what do u think would happen to him in the Bronx? To speak ill of the dead, even on a subliminal level will always bring a negative response. In the hood wit hood people, that response becomes violent. Thats just the way it is. I even understand Joe’s point of view- he should be able to give his opinion, but he has no diplomacy- the arrogance was screaming through his words when he spoke of the other rappers on that vibe list. There was a more diplomatic and respectful way to offer his opinion, but he has not learned how to do that. Its not what u say, its how u say it and it always has been.
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JB Reply:
August 9th, 2009 at 3:09 am
yup! i agree when put like that
joe likes to get it started
you know that saying?
you gotta learn to drown b4 you can swim
sometimes you gotta learn to shut up before you learn to talk
((smile))
learn to get beat up b4 you fight!
lol
but seriously;
i just hope it doesn’t escalate into anything worse than it is
settle the beef on wax
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sin Reply:
August 9th, 2009 at 5:55 pm
Difference,,, Biggie is dead,,,, I think it’s better for your example if you choose an MC thats alive and can defend himself
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Ramesh Reply:
August 11th, 2009 at 5:49 pm
a perfect example of joe buddens fan base
mr_wayne Reply:
August 12th, 2009 at 5:44 am
Excellent response!
LOL @ sin… you OBVIOUSLY mis-read or can’t read.
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August 9th, 2009 at 2:45 am
Hip Hop has turned to fucking Clown Shoes…… niggas bring cameras crews to beat a guy up and a guy on the computer live telling the world he got his ass beat for talking shit…. SMH!!!!
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August 9th, 2009 at 3:16 am
Joe Butten ain’t gonna shoot no one.
Moral of the story, Butten will stop talking trash and calling out other rappers.
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Kwest Allah Reply:
April 30th, 2010 at 3:35 pm
oh wait… no, this might be the truest post. +won
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August 9th, 2009 at 3:26 am
Dudes kill me with this whole “Joe Budden talks/starts too much shit” shit. Fact of the matter is he’s never started ANY so called beef with ANY of his hip hop peers. This goes for the entire G Unit, Prodigy, Saigon, Ransom, or even this whole shit with Meth… If niggas would stop being sensitive and just rap it woulda never been a problem in the first place… Either way, It would be nice if dudes got their facts str8 before commenting. Rae was wrong for being a sensitive thug, Period. The “beef” between Meth and Joe had been deaded so there was nothing that can justify Raekwon for doing what he did and if you believe otherwise su’m wrong witcha.
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August 9th, 2009 at 3:52 am
Deck (of Wu Tang) IS THE ONLY NIGGA THAT GOT ON WAX IN THIS WHOLE THING!!! Budden never even responded he just posted a video blog poppin at the mouth about wantin a fight…..and guess what he got one lmao
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sin Reply:
August 9th, 2009 at 5:56 pm
true
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mertz Reply:
August 11th, 2009 at 3:58 pm
yupp
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mr_wayne Reply:
August 12th, 2009 at 5:47 am
Ouch… Ur SO right! I was thinking that when I saw that vid too. That’s very SUBSTANTIAL evidence that this entire ordeal is ridiculous. Joe should probably keep his mouth closed.
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August 9th, 2009 at 4:35 am
That video of Joe was 100% BEFORE the Jones Beach Show which I was at. The broadcast happened on the 18th at the Boston show. The NY show was the 19th. Rae needs to get those facts straight.
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August 9th, 2009 at 4:46 am
joe got what was commin to him point blank. why no one else in S.H. got beef he talks to much. he got rabbit ears. him and dudes like soulja boy gotta learn to pick there battles. who gives a fiduck what people think or say about u if u gettin money get that bread and do you. i cant stand both of them but i cant hate on em. get that bread and shut the fiduck up.
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August 9th, 2009 at 6:59 am
Is this Perez Budden?…..OMFG….If you run your mouth expect to get Perez’d or Budden’d…..there aint no “fair ones” or “wax battles” when someone is as disrespectful as Joe was….real f’kn talk!!
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Mill Heezy Reply:
August 9th, 2009 at 1:18 pm
Amen
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mertz Reply:
August 11th, 2009 at 4:00 pm
omg. are these actually being used as “terms” to describe a beating. like you got cb’d? man i don’t know what’s going on in the world today. i bet someone put this on ubran dictionary though as an entry to be used. shit.
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August 9th, 2009 at 7:25 am
These guys are some grown ass fucking men acting like damn kids!!!
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August 9th, 2009 at 7:34 am
what? no shooting?
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August 9th, 2009 at 8:05 am
Personally i soughta feel like joey didnt mind taking a punch to the face cause its just gonna have him all over the blogs and more airtime… sucka move by the wu though
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mertz Reply:
August 11th, 2009 at 4:01 pm
yeah yeah yeaaaahhhhh. hahaha i think dude already knew what was up and was planning ahead.
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August 9th, 2009 at 8:36 am
I think that rae on some little kid shit. If you a man you handle your own buisness man to man, not jump someone. Joe buddens has the right to say what he wants, but street niggas go by street rules, thus joe should’ve seen some retaliation coming. Someone also made the comment of joe dry snitching, how’s that??? He ain’t doing a video of him getting snuffed so someone can call the cops and investigate the situation. However this beef is stupid, if this was a more popular rapper rae would not be doing this, he just wanna make an example on a rapper that’s washed up in the game. The man squahed his problems with meth, and I don’t think he took jabs at rae, but it is what it is.
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August 9th, 2009 at 9:06 am
i dont even like budden,and dont know why he keeps sayin shit to piss ppl off, but i think punching him is a step too far. Rae is jus doin that coz his new albums comin.outta bad taste, i think i’l be downloading his album now, instead of buying it,we shouldnt endorse that behaviour, hiphop has come too far…
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August 9th, 2009 at 9:10 am
Info, I have to disagree. Rae is the aggressor in this one. You can’t put they’re both at fault, when one person threw a punch first, clearly it was not Joe.
The Sketchy part about the song at the end was, it makes it seem like your insinuating that Joey bought this on himself….you don’t have to say everything to mean something….writers do this subliminal stuff all the time. You have a true Wu-Bias. Seriously. But I told you that several months ago.
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Miss Info Reply:
August 9th, 2009 at 12:48 pm
and I just told you how I saw it. There’s fault at both ends. But I don’t condone the violence. period. If you’d like to continue to tell me what you think I meant. Feel free. But don’t expect me to agree.
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Mill Heezy Reply:
August 9th, 2009 at 1:24 pm
Rae didn’t throw a punch either. 1 guy hit Joe with a punch and then they talked.
Violence is not condoned but provoking violence will bring it to your door. Budden is smart and knows that he’s getting under people’s skin. I even him laughing about that and how he can agitate people on some radio interview. Many people have threatened to hit him and after the Ransom incident I thought that he would slow down on provoking people.
IMO he has been bringing negative attention like this to himself for a while. Chickens came home to roost.
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August 9th, 2009 at 11:58 am
OK, Raekwon aside, who is surprised that Joe Budden got punched in his career? Anyone?
People have been threatening to punch him for years (The Game, Saigon, Ransom, Method Man, and I’m sure I left some names out). Every time someone threatened him, it was met with the same arrogance that he usually displays and he continued with the same Soap Opera. IMO it was only a matter of time before someone put their hands on him.
It doesn’t even have to be a matter of being from the “hood” or not; it’s common sense. You play with fire, you get burned.
Now, let’s add Rae back into the equation. Imagine what would have happened if Rae came in, talked, and there was no physical altercation (even though it could have been worse imo)? Joe would have ran to the web cam and made a big thing out of it and it would have eventually led to something.
I like Joe lyrically but he’s hard headed. He doesn’t learn from warnings (sort of like Young Berg) and he’s a media whore. Everyone is saying how Rae pulled a sucka move. You tell me this… Who gets punched in the face once by 1 out of 6 dudes, does nothing about it, then runs to his camera to talk about felonious things afterwards?
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Boss B Reply:
August 9th, 2009 at 2:29 pm
So you sound like if he hit that 1 of 6 back, then the 2 of them was just gon “shoot the fair one” and everybody else was just gon sit there and watch? You understand how jumping a nigga works? If he’d swung back on dude, they would have swarmed him… 6 on 1 in that little ass room wouldn’t be a wise fight for anyone to take up unless you fuckin Bruce Lee. Where’s the logic in you guy’s comments?
And for anyone condoning Rae’s behavior you need to think about yourself for a second. As much shit as you little e Thugs
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Mill Heezy Reply:
August 9th, 2009 at 9:55 pm
That’s not the only thing that I said in my response but we’ll talk about that.
If he swung we would know the answer to what would have happened if he swung, now all we can do is speculate. I’m more than aware of how being jumped on works lol. It usually goes like this… A group of guys beat the shit out of 1 or a few dudes. They just gave him a minor L.
If he had swung I’m certain that he would have gotten jumped on but would you just take the slap and be grateful?
I done got my ass whipped to the point where I had to get stitches but I held my ground and defended myself the best that I could and I was a teenager. This is a grown ass man and an entertainer. He had way more to lose than I did.
Also it was 2v6, they would have lost but we acting like it was 40 dudes. A coward dies a thousand deaths. And for ethugery you gotta look a Joe. Get’s snuffed and runs to the camera. Who is this guy; Perez Hilton?
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Boss B Reply:
August 9th, 2009 at 11:06 pm
“If he had swung I’m certain that he would have gotten jumped on but would you just take the slap and be grateful?”
“Joe Budden Gets Punched In The Eye By Raekwon’s Bodyguard” or “Joe Budden Gets Hospitalized By Raekwon’s Entourage”. What looks LESS career-threatening as a headline 3 days b4 ur album drops?
Joe’s a smart nigga, he uses his head in these situations. Its easy to say what you’da done from behind a computer screen but when you get out there its a whole different story.
Bottom Line is there’s nothin gangsta about jumpin a nigga thats dolo.
Raekwon takes an L for confronting Joe about a tape he saw, getting angry about it, and not having his chronological order of events correct to see that he was really the wrong one in the entire situation.
He’s a 40 year old loser for that.
And to your orignal post you rappin like Budden started ANY of those beefs you mentioned. ANY.
Mill Heezy Reply:
August 10th, 2009 at 9:07 am
@ Boss B
There should be no pride in jumping someone at all (even though he wasn’t dolo). We’re not going to agree on his reaction. I would have to defend myself regardless of the outcome. I know that things are easier said than done but I’ve had to defend myself in worse situations than that. It’s 2v6 in a small room. As long as he makes sure that he keeps his back to the wall, he could have fended em off until security came.
As far as Joe starting beef, as you said, he’s a smart dude. He baits people into beef with a slick line in a rap that could or could not be a subliminal shot or he says something slick in an interview. If you’re the type of person that ends up in the same predicament over and over, you have something to do with that.
Rae was wrong but Budden is far from a victim. Rae shouldn’t have done it but Joe sparked the fuse.
THE INDIVIDUALS Reply:
August 10th, 2009 at 1:42 pm
If we have our guys jump someone we are not trying to be Gangstas or tuff, we are simply trying to fuck you up! Nothing to prove but more like a mission to accomplish! Joe is lucky to be living!
“If a person would keep their mouth close they wouldn’t get caught like a fish in the sea”!
Deny that “Punks Jump Up To Get Beat Down” is a classic!
PUNKS JUMP UP TO GET BEAT DOWN!
August 9th, 2009 at 1:06 pm
I was let down but RaeKwon that move was a coWARD moVe!!
if anything he should’ve fought him 1 on 1 that’s what men do
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THE INDIVIDUALS Reply:
August 10th, 2009 at 1:43 pm
Men fight 1 on 1 but the streets kill! Joe is lucky! No rules come with disrespect! It’s whatever whatever!
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August 9th, 2009 at 1:19 pm
But I have to agree with mill heezy JoEBudden plays with Fire alot, and this was bound to happen. not condoning that he got snuFFed, just thing it wasn’t cool that a friend of Rae did it, when it was RaE Vs. JOE
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THE INDIVIDUALS Reply:
August 10th, 2009 at 1:47 pm
It’s Joe vs Wu Tang no separation comes with real family! If your mob is not deep don’t test the next crew!
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August 9th, 2009 at 1:20 pm
Gotta love how stuff always happens right around when albums are coming out..
I woulda copped Slaughterhouse and OBFCL2 without any of this shit…
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August 9th, 2009 at 1:58 pm
So I’m from the time when rappers handled beef on wax and that was that. Everyone talkin about street rules but these dudes are rappers. Aint been in the “streets” for a longtime, especially Raekwon. And “street” dudes don’t film altercations. High school girls and celebrities do.
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August 9th, 2009 at 3:06 pm
niggas doing what niggas do: not listening to reason, not acting civilized, just acting a damn fool. raekwon should act like afucking grown man and stop acting like a child. niggas need to act like they had a fucking father and be a man. these fuckers wear their emotions on their sleeves like a fucking 6 year old. get it together men. whiny ass motherfuckers. you hurt my feelings. fuck that. our grandfathers worked like fucking dogs and didn’t get any respect yet they maintained and these clowns are wearing gold bracelets and living in mansions with a fucking ego that’s out of control. get it together men.
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August 9th, 2009 at 3:23 pm
JOE BUDDEN GOT WHAT HE HAD COMING TO HIM HE TALK LIKE HES A TOUGH GUY ALL THE TIME AND IS A PAIN IN THE ASS ALWAYS TALKING ABOUT OTHER ARTIST AND BITCHING ABOUT THIS THAT AND THE OTHER
WHEN YOU TALK BIG BACKED NIGGA BE READY TO LIVE UP TO IT NOT TO MENTION HE DIDDNT EVEN SWING BACK AT NIGGAZ ?
YOUR A HERB AND MICKEY IS A HERB ASWELL 2 AGAINST 6 IS BETTER THAN 6 AGAINST 1 ANYDAY OF THE WEEK HOMIE
MICKEY IS PUSSY TO START TALKING ABOUT RAE NOW AFTER ITS ALREADY POPPED OFF HE JUST TRYING TO GAIN BUDDENS TRUST AGAIN BUT I DOUBT THAT WILL HAPPEN SO THE FACT REMAINS THAT MICKEY FACTS IS IN FACT P***Y
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August 9th, 2009 at 5:30 pm
Thanks to “joey59″ and miss info for the DOA Lyrics BUT Joey goes harder on that beat!
“every verse lame bout his great aim and how he sniper the street
but everytime he takes a piss ends up wiping the seat.. pause”
TO RAE AND DECK-
“so whats your squad gon do?
Lay a hand on me, ill lay a hollow on you
chain snatch, tap his pockets take his wallet go through
every club in new york and pop bottles on —- you”
“got all them years rapping, nothing else happening
you need a new day to day, old heads in the game with no other way to get paid
they gasping, time-out go take a break from the clay and grab a gatorade
bad contract, team can’t make a trade”
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August 9th, 2009 at 11:34 pm
joe deserved it period. he’s a real smug dude that can’t keep his mouth closed. his wedgie was coming…
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August 10th, 2009 at 12:51 am
LOL, only will a lame ass budden fan would try to make the person who got punched look like the winner.
I’m sure they love listening to buttuns talk all gangsta on his records, and love when he talks about shooting at nigga’s with a shot gun and puttin hollows in people.
But when he gets punched, then it’s not cool. he should make music like the black eyed peas if he aint down to back up his lyrics.
Damn what happened to the era of rap when fake ass nigga’s pretending to be gangsta got no support from real rap fans?
They told all ya’ll punk ass rappers on 36 chambers – “wu-tang clan aint nuttin ta fuck wit, all over the whole fuckin globe” – rza.
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August 10th, 2009 at 6:46 am
BEEF SELLS… BOTH THE PARTIES INVOLVED GOT RECORDS DROPPING…. THINK ABOUT IT!!! 6 DUDES AND ONLY 1 GOT JUMPY?? WHEN YOU ROLL WITH A GROUP AND ONE PERSON GOES OFF IT STARTS A CHAIN OF EVENTS… EYE WITNESS ACCOUNTS MIGHT BE EXAGGERATED AND UNTRUE… WHEN FAB WAS TRYNA GET HYPE FOR HIS MOVIE THE TRAILER WAS STYLES GETTING AT HIM… ITS ALL A LIL TOO FISHY
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August 10th, 2009 at 9:39 am
I really dont get it.
An afro-american rapper took a punch by another afro-american friend of a rapper. So this afro-american rapper decides to talk about it on camera for people to comment on it ?
Please help me on this one. Are these those type of rappers they call ‘Gangster Rappers’ ? How do they get the balls to call themselves gangster ? Do they have an organisation? a code of honor ?
I get confused some times. People actually believe this ? Explain
Thank you,
Mr.White
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August 10th, 2009 at 12:12 pm
u people act as if rea new joe was in there dolo (well he might have well been). rea went to confront dude and brought his just in case niggs. joe got rocked a while maybe he was smart not to swing back idk but nobodys hittin me and i’m jus gon sit there, idk but thats just me. but that forced apology was just bitch to me. joe be talkin like he a super gangsta and yall know that. i wanna see what he gonna do now just rap about what he gonna do. they touched u fam no more talkin. people talkin bout rea fightin meths battles. well it looks like crooked is fighting joe’s battles now.
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August 10th, 2009 at 2:16 pm
I knew this was coming. Wu has a history of jumping niggas in this industry. All I can really say is Rae knew what he was doing. He brought the wolves to the show to get a point across to buddens. If Rae really wanted to “Talk” he would sat those goon down and told them to chill. This is nothing new from Wu. Ghostface got 50 robbed and jumped in LA before he got signed EM and DRE. And Ghost had the nerve to brag about it on a song. But anyways Joe should just keep his mouth closed for on. He got decked on tape for god sake…Game Over! Personally I would got my ass whooped. Cause nobody touching my face let alone punching me in mine. But that is just me though. You can tell how joe reacted that he aint really buit like that.
Tough bark with no bite… that is all it is coming from buddens these days. Ranson mans smack his bestfriend on camera. And budden did a bitch move and apologize to the world on camera. That was his bestfriend and that what you do? What about those niggas knock on his door and smacked his son? I bet he wouldn’t have apologize then. This dude is jaded truly. He should just stop talking shit. All this beef is tarishing his legacy…if he has one. He was right in the beginning for challenging Meth Lyrical skills. But as far as that he needs to chill. He turning in to a joke beefing with rappers every fucking 4 months. Some times you just got humble yourself and keep your comments to yourself.
Oh yeah someone said on here that he said some thing about ODB…. when did he say some thing about him?
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August 11th, 2009 at 2:19 am
joe budden deserved to get smacked, personally i think he needs a good hiding so that he can shut his big mouth
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August 11th, 2009 at 4:34 pm
uh not surprised. lol. all this female drama drama drama instigating. hahaha these two are adults. lol. knew this was bound to happen, and it’ll continue. thanks for the updates info. truth though, mousebudden needs to shut the fcuk up and take his own advice, and wu people should move on….but i bet cooler heads won’t let thhings die.
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N.Y.'s Finest!! Reply:
August 12th, 2009 at 4:39 am
RAE IS A SUCKA!!!
RAE IS A SUCKA !!(REPEAT 10X)
I LOST ALL RESPECT FOR RAEKWON,THAT WAS A TRUE BIAOTH MOVE!!! TO ALL YOU STUPID YUNG’INS HOW CAN JOE BE DRY SNITCHIN’ WHEN THIS FOOL WHEN TO JUMP HIM WITH A CAMERA CREW?JUST LIKE FAT JOE JUMPING ON PAPOOSE BECAUSE HE KNOWS HE WAS A LITTLE WEAKER.RAE PULLED THE SAME SUCKA MOVE!!! JOE KNEW BETTA THAN TO EVEN DARE F-CK WITH FIDDY!!! AS DO THE CLAN,FIDDY BEEN DISSIN’GZA WHERE WAS RAE? OR DECK?(MY FAVORITE WU RAPPER I MIGHT ADD!!)DECK PUT IT ON WAX,AND GAVE A VERY INTELLIGENT INTERVIEW ABOUT LEAVIN’ THE BEEF ALONE! RAE PLAYED HIMSELF OUT!! I WON’T EVEN BOOTLEG OB4CL2!! IF YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT HIP-HOP HISTORY YOU CAN SAY WHAT YOU WANT,SHOW AND PROVE IN THE BOOTH! NOT BRINGING SUCKAS TO JUMP A CAT BY HIS LONESOME IN A ROOM AND BRINGING CAMERAS!! ARE YOU SERIOUS?LET’S NAME SOME:3RD BASS DISSED HAMMER,KRS DID SLAP PM DAWN,HOWEVER HE DID IT HIMSELF,ONE MAN AGAINST BOTH BROTHERS!!(TRUE HIP -HOP!)50 ON “HOW TO ROB”DISSED ONYX,PUN,EVE,..TOO MANY TO MENTION!! STICKY WAS HOT,BUT NO “HANDS”!LET ALONE ONYX COMING WITH A “CAMERA CREW” THEY ARE QUEENS CATS AND OFFICAL NOT A CLOWN LIKE RAE! I’D PAY TO SEE JOE BUST THAT FAT-AZZ ONE ON ONE? IF RAE GOT BALLS I DARE HIM TO PICK UP GZA’S BEEF AND STEP TO G-UNIT!! FAGGOT DON’T WANT IT!
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mertz Reply:
August 12th, 2009 at 1:23 pm
please stop with the all caps. thanks.
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Ramesh Reply:
August 17th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
g-unit already got served, i never heard of 50 trying to go at gza the man’s not stupid as for joe that thief got what he deserved, he stole from fes taylor (angel in my life)got dissed by fes & then joe tried to take it out on meth & got smacked
you lost respect for rae because you never had respect for rae, i doubt you know who he is
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August 14th, 2009 at 12:13 am
please everyone on here crying for Joe..if u don’t know all the facts and history SHUT DA FUCK UP..nicca act like Wu started this shit.u can have an opinion but when u slick talk and Try 2 imply things then u gonna get checked by real dudes..I know both camps and all u stupid people saying rae had a body guard are dumb as fuck, theres nicca in da hood 6′8 and 6′10 250-300 pounds down with Wu its all FAM and close friends..if my brother has beef then we all have beef simple..I know 4 sure if they really wanted 2 get him bad they would have,stop crying he just got snuffed so what it happens, yall don’t know nothing and 2 them fools who say the clan won’t step 2 G-unit don’t know the history.CORN BALLS PLEASE
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