Mon 7 Dec 2009
Truce: Mavado and Vybz Kartel make peace onstage at West Kingston Jamboree (UPDATED)
Posted by Miss Info under beef , good for hip hop , high point 2009 , life beyond rap , photos , quotes , relationships and family[30] Comments
(UPDATE: footage of Kartel x Mavado, thanks to Mavado’s manager Julian via DJ Rampage)
(UPDATE 2: you can watch more clips on Alliance’s Youtube, which doesnt allow embedding, no idea why…hello?)
Peace as a contagion? That’d be nice, wouldn’t it?
A week after the Young Jeezy x Gucci Mane x DJ Drama on-air truce in Atlanta, another long-running feud has been publicly resolved….My boy DJ Ness hit me early in the morning last night’s (this morning’s) West Kingston Jamboree, when Mavado called up his arch-rival Vybz Kartel for an onstage declaration of unity. According to reports, the truce was facilitated by Carlos “Dudus” Coke (note: he’s not exactly “the president” as I was led to believe, but…um…actually a local heavy, accused of drug trafficking, and more) along with Mavado’s Gully Crew, Kartel’s Gaza crew, and more. Mavado’s manager Julian Jones-Griffith tweeted “Big up d President, a him mek it apn. ( That’s a good look) crowd loved it also 20k stron”. Now this isn’t the first time, “community forces” have brought Mavado and Kartel together for a public show of peace (a la Game and 50’s reluctant hug in 2005) but hopefully it’ll stick this go ’round.
(photo of Mavado and Vybz Kartel onstage, via Crumbs/LivUpRecords
After the jump, more photos…also Ness breaks down some of the Mavado vs Kartel beef history (which resulted in numerous altercations and diss-songs ranging from “MoFraudo” to “Battyman Kartel.” Yikes!)
(photo via Crumbs/LivUpRecords)
(“Gully and Gaza shaking hands in Unity. Big man ting dat.” via Showcase NYC)
(“The crowd Went crazy with the back and forth performances. They looked genuinely happy . Bless.” via Showcase NYC)
This recent Source.com post gives the background leading up to this morning’s concert, and DJ Ness also sent me his overview of the multi-layered beef. But what’s missing from this account is: the beef is all an offshoot of an older beef, Bounty Killer vs. Beenie Man. Mavado and Kartel were under Bounty Killer. But Kartel was friendly with Beenie and even went to Beenie’s wedding to Bounty Killer’s ex-girlfriend….
Here’s what Ness says:
Mavado & Kartel came up under Bounty Killer & were all in the same camp, the Alliance… Round late 2006 Kartel left the camp.. Eventually Kartel & Mavado started fueding & its been going on for some time…
Around this time, Mavado started blowing up like crazy thanks in part to commercial hits stateside & in Jamaica… Kartel was banging out just as many hits in Jamaica, but they didn’t translate into hits on commercial radio stateside… But I feel this just helped his underdog status… This has been going on for prolly like 2 or 3 yrs I wanna say…? I’m not too sure…
Late last year they had a clash/battle onstage at Sting 2008 & it was nutz cuz they both agreed to go head to head onstage to settle the score as to who was the better artist. It’s still up for debate who actually won… Although I personally think Kartel won but that’s just me… & it was so ill to watch cuz you have to give them both props for putting their image on the line & leaving it up to the people to decide who was the better artist…There was soo much security on stage… They’re trying to outperform one another with lyrics of their own songs… As a music fan, it’s one of the most amazing & intruiging things I’ve ever seen onstage in my life especially since modern day rap artist I don’t think would ever have the ballz to put their name on the line for the public to decide on a stage like that… Mavado comes out in all black with an undertaker like mask & a few minutes later Kartel comes out in an army outfit & the crowd looses it!!! You don’t even have to understand wtf they’re saying… Just watching the crowd react to them cutting each other off & watching all the activity onstage is jus beyond description & make no mistake the crowd was ina fkn frenzy…
Imagine Jay Z & Nas agreeing to a battle at the peak of their beef onstage for the people to decide the clear winner!? That shit was sick… The thing is this… Mavado is more known as a “singer” with hood lyrics… While Kartel is known as a lyricist… So that’s where the comparison gets tricky…But hopefully that gives you a lil snapshot of how this all came about… Granted I’m sure I’m missing a few key pieces here & there… But that’s the jist of it…& why it so iLL that its over for now…





December 7th, 2009 at 12:37 pm
Damn!!! that dude in white must be wearing the skinniest jeans of all time,ever!
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December 7th, 2009 at 12:40 pm
Imagine if rappers weren’t so sensitive!
Imagine if comedians weren’t so sensitive either…
Imagine if professionals would actually compete against the younger generation who are hungrier than they are?
Alot of them would lose their spots.
How does a professional feel to know that there are people out there in the audiences, or following them on twitter that would eat them alive at their own craft?
Some have already felt it!
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December 7th, 2009 at 12:41 pm
good synopsis..but keep in mind, this is why, Reggae/dancehall is so raw and will never be diluted..Their artist arent afraid to challenge each other and give the people what they want…like you said, Imagine Jay and Nas going @ each other on Summerjam? that would never happen.
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December 7th, 2009 at 1:04 pm
Miss Info you broke it down to the exact T. The reason I feel that these two really have to make a truce because too many people are getting murdered in JA over this Gaza/Gully beef and most of them are young men barely out of their teens. I have a close friend whose brother was killed last month and all because of the fact that he lived on the Gully side and was going to see his girl who lived on Gaza side. I was in JA earlier this year when the “war” cool down. I was only there for 2 wks and just as I was leaving the “war” start again. I was staying in the ghetto, Gully side Water house, saw places like Spanish town and Tivoli Garden. Basically this truce is bigger than music, it’s for the country and the future of the kids that listen to them.
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December 7th, 2009 at 1:08 pm
Just wanted to let you guys know that Jamaica doesn’t have a president but a prime minister, Bruce Golding. Who they are referring to here is a ghetto don Christopher “Dudus” Coke aka President. He’s Shower Posse boss, Jim brown’s son. The US wants to extradite him but that hasn’t happened yet. He has ties to the ruling JLP party who recently gave him government contracts worth around US$500 k. This story is alot more interesting with that component don’t you think?
Further reading: http://www.jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/20091129/cleisure/cleisure5.html
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Miss Info Reply:
December 7th, 2009 at 1:15 pm
thank you! yeah, I just caught wind of that error. What a fascinating figure tho….def adds another layer
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mimi Reply:
December 8th, 2009 at 11:07 am
YES! I think it’d def more interesting. I have the book “Shower Posse” at home— thick as hell, but I heard it’s good. I bought it for my cousin a few yesrs ago… he never got to it.
Interesting, definitely.
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December 7th, 2009 at 1:09 pm
Speaking on this issue as it is a new thing is pretty lame to me…. this is the culture
Ninjaman vs Supercat
Beenie Man vs Bounty Killa
Ninjaman vs Merciless
countless rivals at Sting, that’s what the stage is known for, main event style clashes.
a long time mi nuh guh yawd….big up JA. It was sad when Biggie got booed at Sting 93′ tho.
I wonder what the main event is this year?
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704Jamaican Reply:
December 7th, 2009 at 1:28 pm
Bounty v Kartel would be a good look.
–Im not a Blogger I just tweet a lot
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Chase green Reply:
December 7th, 2009 at 3:57 pm
I was just about to say.
Is Vybz goin to make peace with the Bounty?
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Jamaican Don Dadda Reply:
December 7th, 2009 at 5:25 pm
Bounty v Kartel this year. I’ve paid to watch sting live coz I live in the UK and I cannot wait lol.
It’s good they have called a truce but they did it before and Bounty v Kartel showcase will probably cause it to start up again
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Phil Jarrett Reply:
December 7th, 2009 at 7:38 pm
yh i’m thinkin about paying to watch sting.
bounty and kartel will prob make up in a few years or it wont be as good as kartel vs mavado and ppl will forget/not care.
its great to see this unity in jamaica tho. would be nice if it did spread amongst the street youth.
December 7th, 2009 at 1:10 pm
Ninjaman….the real king of Sting!
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Chase green Reply:
December 7th, 2009 at 3:58 pm
Vybz stomped out Ninjaman
in Jamaica everyone calls Ninjaman, Timberlands. cause thats what he had on his head. SMH
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December 7th, 2009 at 1:24 pm
A gaza mi seh!!! Kartel wins hands down! The clash and every tune fi tune. The clash was sick. And your right, u dont even need too know what they r saying. The crowd reaction says it all. And I do wish rappers would do this and stop having meaningless beefs where winners are only decided by biased speculation.
–Im not a Blogger I just tweet a lot.
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December 7th, 2009 at 1:53 pm
Big up Kartel and Mavado!
Clashing has always been a part of dancehall and reggae music… The onstage clashing king is NINJAMAN though, if you think Sting 2008 was hype you need to see Ninja murdering Shabba and Supercat onstage at the heights of their respective careers no less…
btw Biggie got booed @ Sting 96… they even threw bottles… And he was in a wheelchair too, but in 1996 the n-bomb was not a term of endearment in Jamaica and when he was wheeled out he greeted the crowd with ‘Waddup my n****s and n****rettes!’ he was booed instantly. This is why the video has never come out.
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dj ruthless Reply:
December 10th, 2009 at 8:30 am
wow thats interesting i think i remember hearing bout that come to think of it
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December 7th, 2009 at 2:36 pm
nice report jamaica gets it in if american mc’s got it in hip hop would never be waterted down everyone say they the best but are scared to battle if u cant battle for your number 1 spot retire
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December 7th, 2009 at 3:14 pm
WOW Info! not once would I have thought this would be on your radar.
*prop on this post.
moving on…
this is truly a good look, big step rite here man.
now that gully/gaza made peace lets hope the gov’t of JA. will hop off the artistes backs and do something about the crime since they n longer have a scapegoat, and I also hope the listeners of both artistes be civil to each other from now on.
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December 7th, 2009 at 4:45 pm
RASTA ROCKETTZ
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December 7th, 2009 at 6:23 pm
I’m not gonna front, Reggae beef always seems way more gangsta than rap beef. No rapper has yet to pull out a machete on a rival…Not once
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December 7th, 2009 at 6:49 pm
@ jay Yes.. The story about Duddus and his relatives is an interesting one. I took half day to read up on them shortly after the US decided they wanted to extradite him.
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December 7th, 2009 at 7:20 pm
dont really care , get bounty and beenie on that stage to actually settle there differences , ya i know they came on stage to pose like they were making peace to stop people from killing each other over there beef but that wasnt real that was just necessary. then that would be epic , beenie vs bounty beef has been going on for at least what 15-16 years now , thats the beef that needs to be put to rest.
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December 7th, 2009 at 8:39 pm
Brrrraaaaaappp!! Go run tell dat. Peace n Unity
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December 7th, 2009 at 9:04 pm
@ yung natty, Beenie and Bounty already did that a few times, it didnt last
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yung natty Reply:
December 9th, 2009 at 5:17 am
ya cuz between he man , keep start it back again.
i dont care bout kartel and mavado a singer vs a lyricist , how long were they going to clash and kartel was gonna keep handing his ass too him , you wouldnt put ludacris in a battle vs akon and you wouldnt put lloyd banks vs t pain , this wasnt going to last no matter what that beef was destined for death.
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December 8th, 2009 at 2:08 pm
That’s cool. I was just talking about the whole gaza and gully thing was ridiculous.
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December 9th, 2009 at 12:34 am
gully we seh.alliance fi life.
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December 12th, 2009 at 4:31 pm
yeah, well i think kartel should even thank GOD, that GOD rise movado up , for him to learn some language from him, coz nobody knows kartel since he ass been singing but now just b/coz of d clash btw d both them now ppl get to knw who is cartel.
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June 21st, 2010 at 9:50 pm
Kartel a di boss
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