Tue 8 Sep 2009
T-Pain cries a river about Jay-Z and “DOA”: Woe is you
Posted by Miss Info under beef , concerts , hmmm....? , laugh at , low point 2009 , not good for hip hop , quotes , ugh , videos[75] Comments
…and he chooses to do so, while “deejaying” the Rehab pool party in Vegas. Because nothing says circle of trust like a couple hundred drunk junior bankers and aspiring banana boat girls chugging malt-slurpees out of plastic flower vases.
Here, T-pain tells the crowd (of people who don’t know him from one of the Baha Men) that “Jay-Z is 59 years old…if anything should be dead it should be him,” and “F–k Jay-z…he’s old.” (thanks to Realtalkny and Ddotomen)
profound.
Just as idiotic as it was when T-Pain took all the credit for autotune’s hits, it is equally idiotic that he feels like all autotune backlash is on him too. Talk about an unrealistic view of one’s place in the universe. Sheesh!
(can it be that is was all so simple….when you ran onstage during Hov’s Summerjam set, while he was performing the song that is now the bane of your existence…) (pic by MelDCole)
Fabulous was also at the party, and shared the T-pain diss with his twitter followers…(thanks to reader Nightfall for the tip)
More of Fabolous’ man-on-the-cabana reporting, after the jump…
September 8th, 2009 at 12:22 pm
What I don’t understand is if Pain said that he could make great music without AutoTune why would he go on the offensive with this Anit Jay-Z stuff. If I didn’t know any better I would say he’s got an album coming out. Oh and just reading the way you spun this one Info you aren’t feeling his Rant as well. I do have a question does coming at Jay-z really give people the airtime they so desprately seek even if they know in their hearts they know all the words to his songs?
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September 8th, 2009 at 12:25 pm
yo hes a lame! screw autotune! real talent please show yourself we need you like yesterday!
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September 8th, 2009 at 12:34 pm
No homophobe, but that video got extremely geigh at about the 3:30 mark.
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September 8th, 2009 at 12:36 pm
Jay-z shuts shit down. Throw backs, christol, auto-tune, u can’t be mad at jay for making a song that he felt he had to make cause of the state of hip hop. However, if it’s fucking with t-pain money then maybe I can understand, but he just look stupid now for going on stage at summer jam. And how u say jay-z should be dead, this niggas a clown for that, cause u know if he passed by jay for a industry event he won’t say that. And it is funny how he did it at the location he did it at with that type of crowd. No t-Wayne album I guess.
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rychass Reply:
September 9th, 2009 at 10:43 am
LMAO
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September 8th, 2009 at 12:58 pm
i feel like rappers our going to try to crucify my man hov but it ain’t gon happen he’s that nigga he makes great music and his age ain’t got shit to do it ya’ll should just pay homage we need spitters and not watz just hot for rite now…
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September 8th, 2009 at 12:58 pm
Nothing like an Info shout out.
To make me feel a lil better about missing the Rae show tonight.
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September 8th, 2009 at 1:09 pm
Yeah… D.O.A. cuts into how the man eats!!
Sure he would feel some sort of way!
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rychass Reply:
September 9th, 2009 at 10:54 am
yo if the man (Jay) is giving you credit, that you do it and do it well; and you have all these T pain wanna be, the’re not even call T-pain for auto T any more, the’re doing it themselves; Jay is talking about AT, not the melodies; every can not write a good melody but any one can do AT and you wont know the difference. it’s amazing to see what artists will do to stay relevant, and here I was boycotting reality shows, when Hip Hop is one of them. I’m bloody embarrassed with myself
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September 8th, 2009 at 1:18 pm
what do you expect Info? this is the same dude that rolls with DJ Khaled,Fat Joe and Officer Ross-they all have “an unrealistic view of one’s place in the universe” plus they think Miami is some type of a kingdom where for most people its nothing but a sandbox(vacation)
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September 8th, 2009 at 1:29 pm
Yo info how much diddy giving u for the ads???
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Miss Info Reply:
September 8th, 2009 at 1:52 pm
well, I’m not sure…but Bad Boy is working with Complex so, its not exactly me and Diddy going hand to hand on the corner of Web st and Internet Ave: )
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E Reply:
September 8th, 2009 at 2:42 pm
Info, can you talk to whoever is working on the layout for the site? The ads are making the posts all a little off-center and while I understand the ads (gotta pay the bills), do you really need to have side and top banners plus that ad below your banner? That one below your banner is real distracting, esp. when you had the Hennessey ad earlier with the hypno look and it was running off synch with the top banner ad. Gave me mad headaches.
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John doe Reply:
September 8th, 2009 at 3:03 pm
Damn brother I wanna design a website, can u work for free???
Miss Info Reply:
September 8th, 2009 at 3:09 pm
sigh…oh man. i’m sorry. I’m having someone work on making the borders wider….hopefully that will help. I’m new to the whole thing so I appreciate your input. I’m not mad at the current Bad Boy takeover because I’m happy that Bad Boy has chosen my site. I think that says something about how labels are valuing my voice and the power of you guys, the readers.
But I just don’t want the posts to be cramped. That was my main issue. I didnt realize some visuals were too psychedelic, lol. Do you think wider borders will help?
Nightfall Reply:
September 8th, 2009 at 3:11 pm
LOL, I was about to say, Damn lemme find out Info’s on the Bad Boy team now.
**Pictures Info on Making the Band: The Lost Edition with Dylan and Chopper**
Miss Info Reply:
September 8th, 2009 at 3:19 pm
we’re not really gonna have that convo every time someone advertises on here are we? Info loves Bad Boy, Info loves Ebay, Info loves Jergens…..
no thanks.
But I did hit the ad folks about the set up…because it’s overwhelming.
John doe Reply:
September 8th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
Info loves bad boy, info loves eBay, info loves john doe, info loves jergens. Come on guys we know she loves me, but let’s not make this an ongoing topic when info advertises her love for me.
E Reply:
September 9th, 2009 at 1:44 pm
Thanks for the fix Info. Much better. I was going to suggest you use the propotions that Nah uses (esp. since you are in the same family now), but it looks like you have.
Only suggestion would to see if you can reduce the sidebar a little and give a little more room to your posts. Nah’s proportions are good (maybe its just familiarity), but you usually have a lot more text in your posts (which is what I enjoy) so your site might be benefit more with a little more room in the actual post area.
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Miss Info Reply:
September 9th, 2009 at 1:52 pm
ah ha….so make the sidebar smaller overall….but won’t that cause the prob with that off-center-ness? because I dont think I can make that side box ad different….
E Reply:
September 9th, 2009 at 1:57 pm
Yeah, only way to reduce the sidebar is to reduce the size of that side box ad. That ad is like 50% wider than anything else you have in the sidebar so a lot of wasted space. Unfortunately, I’m guessing Complex Ad guys have already sold ads for that spot at a set size so may be an uphill battle to get that changed.
September 8th, 2009 at 1:52 pm
Ms. Info, I’m usually in agreement with you, but I’m definitely not co-signing your comment concerning T-Pain’s “unrealistic view of his place in the universe.”
Dude is indeed THE definitive face and voice of Auto Tune. Hell, he even released an iPhone Auto tune application last week. However, although I’m not a T-Pain apologist, he makes a good point: Jay-Z is too old to tell people what’s cool and not cool anymore.
I’m 30 years old, and I’m not going around and telling my nephews what’s cool, because they are 10 years old. It’s the equivalent of Jay-Z telling college students what’s cool.
For 40-year-old multi-millionaires married to R&B divas, he gives some great advice. But to the rest of us, so what?
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Miss Info Reply:
September 8th, 2009 at 1:54 pm
see, in my opinion, the Death of Autotune was inspired by the other artists who saw Tpain’s success with the sound and tried to recreate it to a less-successful and far more annoying degree. So in the same way that I don’t think Pain had the right to demand “permission” from artists who used autotune, I don’t think he has the right to carry the cross when people don’t like autotune. Its not all about him.
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AUFBRAND Reply:
September 8th, 2009 at 2:16 pm
I see your point, and I agree with that opinion.
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Lee Reply:
September 8th, 2009 at 2:48 pm
I think Pain to offese because when you think if AutoTune you think of Him. So when Jay came out with D.O.A who was the first person you thought of when you heard the song? its was almost like he had to stand up for what he brought back to the game. Now I don’t agree with him coming at Jay(after bum rushing Summer Jam)even though he said he wasn’t coming at him on D.O.A
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September 8th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
Yo son I’m sick of these studio thugs. ill smack that shit otta Tpain. I’m sick of this shit yo. everytime u turn around someone in the industry is talkin out they ass. We need all the ol heads to come back hard to put an end to this shit and I aint old but real reconize real.. kane, kool G rap, nas, krs 1, mc shan, shyne, redman, k solo, beans, D.O.C any fuckin body please start dissin these metro sexual country ass , emotional fuckin rappers/singers yo….real talk
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September 8th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
Get back to Big Ass Chains, You The Gamin’ Too Much!
lmao @ how [Info] went in tho..nice.
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September 8th, 2009 at 2:01 pm
good to see Fabolous showing love (pause) and defending his boy Hov’…
T-Pain gets a retrospective L for going on stage with Jay-Z then dissing him 3 months later…lame
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September 8th, 2009 at 2:11 pm
People in my view are jumping over and avoiding the HEART of the issue. That is how much creative/artistic expression are you willing to give up for commercial success. Hip Hop is full of trends. Always has been always will be but we’ve grown to see trends go from merely being the “cool” thing to do to being the profitable thing to do. And mixing money with art is always a divisive act.
Let’s be real I’ve yet to hear a Ron Brows joint without Autotune. Same thing with Web Star. Simply put, it’s gotten corny to a certain segment of the audience.
Folk have every right to use it but don’t whine when people voice displeasure with it.
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September 8th, 2009 at 2:12 pm
This the same dude that threw jabs at DeadPrez… I think it’s time for Jay to do another remix with DP and shut this dude down.
Dead Prez feat. Jay-z-Hell Yeah Remix
http://www.xclusivetrax.com/index.php?option=com_traxartist&task=playSongex&id=6203
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September 8th, 2009 at 2:22 pm
It’s funny to me that with Jay basically saying that he was in no way intending to go at T-Pain, but moreso the people who have jumped on the trend… like, emphasized that point REPEATEDLY… and even after T-Pain HIMSELF saying how wack it was that everyone was using “his shit”… he finally pops up after three months with this. Totally comical… but then again, he does have an album coming out soon, now doesn’t he?
-D!
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September 8th, 2009 at 2:26 pm
Miss info I do get your point when you say that people took off with auto tune once t-pain came out, but so what! They’re eating. Wasn’t it jay that said what you eat don’t make me shyt? So what’s the problem? Who give a flying uck if everybody and there mama is using autotone.
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Miss Info Reply:
September 8th, 2009 at 2:33 pm
I wasnt arguing that point. I think it all depends on the endproduct quality. There was some good some bad. My comment was in response to Aufbrand.
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Anti - computer thugs! Reply:
September 8th, 2009 at 2:43 pm
wow bbe®®ycutie either you work for t-payne or you are another anti-jay-z fanatic,either way calm down “Like its that effin serious.”
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Anti - computer thugs! Reply:
September 8th, 2009 at 2:49 pm
And no their not eating, they’re flopping and its annoying thats the point she is making!
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September 8th, 2009 at 2:40 pm
It all depends on the endproduct?? Maybe I’m missing something..don’t get me wrong bc I still love American G, but jay z is a middle age man that’s been talkin about the same shit(w/ no substance) since the 90s. Damn they don’t make 40yr old like they used to.
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Nightfall Reply:
September 8th, 2009 at 3:16 pm
How should a 40 yr old be?
I mean Oprah co-signs him, Forbes Co-signs him, majority of the most respected people in Hip Hop co-sign. So based on what we know, not online hearsay and rumor but on fact, what should Jay change about himself?
And who are we to judge?
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September 8th, 2009 at 2:59 pm
“man-on-the-cabana reporting”
HA. little zings like that make your blog so fun to read
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September 8th, 2009 at 3:05 pm
MISS’ CIROC O’BAMA?!?
its like the new day bobby and whitney
without the crack or fornication
never saw it comin
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Miss Info Reply:
September 8th, 2009 at 3:10 pm
i don’t drink.
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Nightfall Reply:
September 8th, 2009 at 3:18 pm
…flashing bac to that story you told during ya Cam interview.
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G.M. Reply:
September 9th, 2009 at 2:25 pm
so without the crack,fornication or booze
i was more getting at, after that BET awards crazyness with all the Ciroc O’bama and you saying you never wanted to hear any of that again….its humorous to see it ended up on your page, ’tis all..not hatin,believe it or not..
good to see you’re alive an doin well either way
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Miss Info Reply:
September 9th, 2009 at 3:01 pm
ah yes, the irony
September 8th, 2009 at 3:21 pm
Who gives a eff about oprah new age a$$ krs1 still spits but there is substance. Jay is on the same shit. What is he brining to the table besides a couple hot metaphors every now and then. If ice t snoop ice cube are still talkin that dumb shyt they should all hang up the mic for good. Imo
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leo Reply:
September 8th, 2009 at 8:37 pm
ok your an ass sorry but you are are you listening to his music and then listening to all the younger rapper’s the same shit j spits got substance not the new shi*. I hate this new shi* all the new good rapper’s are underground like blue scholars them guys are the shit and even lupe fiasco those guys music have substance.
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September 8th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
I’m a fan of Jay-Z’s work. This has nothing to do with his past accomplishments or his lyrical ability (because frankly we didn’t get a lyrical Jay-Z with BP3). We’re talking about Jay-Z now. BP3 Jay-Z. With that said…
T-Pain is certainly wrong in the way he handled his point of view, probably doing so in fear of his paper getting “lighter”.
“D.O.A. (Death of Auto-Tune)” was contradictory to the entire bulk of Jay-Z’s new album.
Jay-Z didn’t reach down to the people that actually buy his albums.
Got this from a review:
“His albums have always been laced with a handful of epically-braggadocious anthems and chants. Still, The Blueprint had those deep cuts like “Song Cry”, “Heart of the City (Ain’t No Love)”, shit, even “Renegade”, songs that touched the people. Each of the songs on The Blueprint 3 – even just the song titles alone(!) – are about Jay proclaiming his dominance. Except this time, the beats aren’t up to par and Jay’s lyrical swords have gotten dull and desperately need sharpening.” source link: http://hiphopisread.blogspot.com/2009/09/jay-z-blueprint-3-album-review.html
The interesting thing about trying to “micro-manage” or “kill” one trend by giving your opinion is failing to do so by NOT reaching the people is an oxymoron in a sense.
Which is why T-Pain is probably feeling bitter and reacting this way. Jay-Z told the public “what’s OK to do and what’s NOT OK to do.” then made this lyrically weak album.
Who’s got “DOA” playing while doing day to activities?
At the end of the day though, you wont hear The Blueprint 3 blasting out anyones cars during a gorgeous hot summer day. That’s for sure.
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YouNG-FReSH2D Reply:
September 8th, 2009 at 9:52 pm
Wrong! On to the next one is my shit.
A star is born is a great uplifting record.
Forever Young is a dope record too.
DOA had it’s moment, Jay Z released it 2 days before summerjam and the people in the crowd new the words. Just like Jay Z said if people didn’t agree then the song would have fadded away, the people gave it life because they were in agreement.
What I want to know is what was T-Pain doing on stage, when the track came on? If he had issues with it? Why not confront Jay there and then don’t dance to it and then a few weeks later start dissing? It doesn’t add up.
When GZA dissed 50 on that “Paper Plates” record it was one of the weakest diss records and that record went away without as much as a response from anyone on G-Unit.
Autotune is saturated and the novelty has worn off. So it’s On to the nxt one!!!
DOA does not mean that T-Pain can’t do music, if it’s hot people will buy it.
Out of all the albums that came out this year so far Blueprint 3 has been a highlight and I got tickets to see Jay perform his new material, there’s not a lot of rappers i’d pay to go see live.
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YouNG-FReSH2D Reply:
September 8th, 2009 at 10:06 pm
The reason why a lot of people like Jay is because he potrays himself to be a gangster/hustler.
If movies like The Godfather, Scarface, Goodfellas don’t appeal to I don’t think you’ll understand why Jay Z spits about the same topic but it’s like a diffrent chapter.
If you never understood the mafia organization, crime world, hood mentality it’s hard to relate to Jay-Z or 50 Cent.
Look at Jay-Z’s video for “You can’t knock the hustle” that’s what they built Roc-A-Fella Records on.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96sFW-3vGv4
this is a classic.
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BlacHaze Reply:
September 9th, 2009 at 5:52 am
“At the end of the day though, you wont hear The Blueprint 3 blasting out anyones cars during a gorgeous hot summer day. That’s for sure.”…..Maybe that’s cuz the summer’s over and the windows will be rolled up while they listen to BP3.
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mr_wayne Reply:
September 9th, 2009 at 12:45 pm
Lots of albums have a few good tracks. BP3 as a whole was disappointing.
The Summer was over a LONG time ago for the first Blueprint, but you still listen to that I bet.
BP3 is a huge disappointment. IMHO.
I’m a huge Jay-Z fan. I’ve never been disappointed with anything he’s done before. NOT EVEN Kingdom Come, which to mt was a very mature album.
BP3 is an album that contradicts itself, it’s full of weak subject matter. IMHO I’m NOT feelin it as a whole.
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September 8th, 2009 at 3:51 pm
..’if anything should be dead it should be him ‘…??
yo
some body
holla at pain.. and tell him to
ask his man –► Ryat(his dancer)
..what it feels like to get
killed off by NY Madness…
cause that’s what hova’s got
for that ass…
rip ya whole style apart kid
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September 8th, 2009 at 3:53 pm
I GUESS T-PAIN GOING TO GET A “I HATE JAY-Z” CHAIN MADE NOW…
LOL AT FAB TWEET SNITCHIN!! LMAO
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September 8th, 2009 at 4:14 pm
t-pain is a loser
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September 8th, 2009 at 4:46 pm
d.o.a wasnt for t-pain….it was for the Ron Browz, and all the other rappers who had the token auto-tune track on their albums..d.o.a. was for that wendy’s commercial…. come on t-pain…. get it together..
“This ain’t politically correct, this might offend my political connects”
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John doe Reply:
September 8th, 2009 at 5:31 pm
Well if it was for ron browz then I guess it’s because ron browz did the ether beat, and jay still mad. That’s y jay would have a beef with him or maybe cause he was doing songs with jim jones.
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james dean Reply:
September 9th, 2009 at 12:03 am
what?? lol a beef with Ron Browz?? Does that guy even make quality music?? I mean Pop champagne was cool for a time… but uhh the rest of his songs sound like a pop champagne remake or something..
That guy got reduced to a Joe Budden punchline “Go to the top of the EMpire State and Ron Browz yourself”
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John doe Reply:
September 9th, 2009 at 7:41 am
All I’m saying if the guy keeps on saying either boy on every song and jay hearin it, he might be mad cause this Harlem nigga still talkin bout ether. I think jay still mad.
james dean Reply:
September 9th, 2009 at 12:18 pm
lol…i don’t think jay-z listens to ron browz records…
YouNG-FReSH2D Reply:
September 9th, 2009 at 10:22 pm
Nas’ bars was ETHER not the beat, nas could have done that sh!t acapella and it still would be hard!!!
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September 8th, 2009 at 5:07 pm
I been waiting this moment for a very,very long time! This dude just proved why autotone didn’t belong to him in the first place. Bitching and crying over a song. Listen the people don’t follow jay-z like that. We follow his message. That autotone shit was pass it bed time. It was making artist put out lazy music. Honestly it is not really dead . Artist are just going to have to find a better way of using it that is all. T-pain didn’t create the muthafucker. Nor can he create where it goes from here. This shit became played out by everyone else not jay. He should blame the 50 million other artist that tried to dick ride his money machine…loser!
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September 8th, 2009 at 6:26 pm
If your attempting to go “hard” on someone you may not want to follow that up by dirty dancing onstage with a member of Pretty Ricky after wards. You also may not want to be T-Pain.
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September 8th, 2009 at 6:27 pm
get of gay-z’s [edit] MISS INFO!!! U should be in vietnam or north korea now trying to get ur slim eyes fixed rather than worry about what t-pain has to say; i guess every1 has a freedom of speech.. [edit] fabolous snitch ass,scattered teeth,gangsta wannabe [edit]..
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Miss Info Reply:
September 8th, 2009 at 6:34 pm
LOL!! awww…..poor thing. Good luck, maye. You need it.
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Anti - computer thugs! Reply:
September 8th, 2009 at 7:16 pm
serious loser! hey info i think he suffers from something doctors call mini-penus syndrome, yeah they say that individuals that suffer from this acts that way and says dumb shit, because they become agitated from the fact that every time they go to pee they piss on their balls!
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BlacHaze Reply:
September 9th, 2009 at 5:59 am
Woow…everything is snitching nowadays… You idiots use words that you don’t know anything about and use it waaay outta context. Fab was snitching…really….
And you lucky Ms. Info’s 6′7″ 235lbs. boyfriend don’t know where you live. You internet thugs all need hugs.
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mr_wayne Reply:
September 9th, 2009 at 12:46 pm
If you ignores pricks like this they shrivel up and disappear.
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Walk Wit Me Reply:
September 9th, 2009 at 2:28 pm
I agree with everything you said except for the racism. SMH at miss info not posting my comment. I guess the truth hurts.
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Miss Info Reply:
September 9th, 2009 at 3:00 pm
if you cursed too much, I deleted. simple
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Walk Wit Me Reply:
September 9th, 2009 at 7:22 pm
I guess likening you to [edit] is the “missinfo.tv” equivalent of cursing. ^_^
Miss Info Reply:
September 10th, 2009 at 12:53 am
worse.
September 8th, 2009 at 7:41 pm
Aww man, Fabolous went in on T-Pain on twitter! All because a fack twitter page said “F*** Fabolous”! Three of those trending topics are #tpainbetter T-pain and California Raisin (which Fab said T-Pain should audition for) I can’t!
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September 8th, 2009 at 9:48 pm
baha men, lol f*ckery
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September 8th, 2009 at 10:36 pm
Good for T-Pain. If I were him I would have did this a long time ago. Jay-Z is just jealous that as much as he calls himself a legend, T-Pain actually defined the late 00’s era of urban music.
http://mrspacemanelz.blogspot.com/ Poll of the day: Nicki Minaj or Amber Rose who gets the ring?
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September 8th, 2009 at 11:08 pm
I believe T-Pain is a hippocrate when Jay performed DOA on the Summer Jam stage pain was the first to jump on Jays dick pretty much letting us think it wasnt gonna hurt his career (what songs had came out with Pain on it after DOA dropped)which probably destroyed his career. Loso is the man for holding down Jay and Brooklyn cause when u think of jay u think BROOKLYN
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September 9th, 2009 at 12:58 am
i think maye might be t-pain.
t-pain has zero classic albums, jay has at least 2 true masterpieces. even if he felt dissed he should show respect.
that summer jam thing was out of line and this is way out of line.
i think we should give him the oppurtunity to talk to jay face to face and apologize, maybe live on the radio or 106 and park or something
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