Sun 20 Feb 2011
Steve Stoute’s Open Letter To The Grammy Board
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In today’s New York Times Style section, music industry mogul Steve Stoute took the liberty of taking out a full page ad to voice his displeasure with the NARAS (National Academy of Recording Arts & Sciences) over the Grammy’s shutting out more popular artists to lesser unknowns in some of their big categories. This falls on the heels of last week’s 53rd annual Grammy Awards where artists such as Justin Bieber, Drake and most notably Eminem, lost out on wins such as Best New Artist & Album of The Year to less popular artists like Esperanza Spalding and Arcade Fire. In the past, artists like Kanye West and 50 Cent have experienced the same shut out for categories in which the masses felt they were clear cut favorites to win.
Over the course of my 20-year history as an executive in the music business and as the owner of a firm that specializes in in-culture advertising, I have come to the conclusion that the Grammy Awards have clearly lost touch with contemporary popular culture. My being a music fan has left me with an even greater and deeper sense of dismay — so much so that I feel compelled to write this letter. Where I think that the Grammys fail stems from two key sources: (1) over-zealousness to produce a popular show that is at odds with its own system of voting and (2) fundamental disrespect of cultural shifts as being viable and artistic.
Props to TheLifeFiles
You can read the full submission from Steve Stoute, after the jump….
Over the course of my 20-year history as an executive in the music business and as the owner of a firm that specializes in in-culture advertising, I have come to the conclusion that the Grammy Awards have clearly lost touch with contemporary popular culture. My being a music fan has left me with an even greater and deeper sense of dismay — so much so that I feel compelled to write this letter. Where I think that the Grammys fail stems from two key sources: (1) over-zealousness to produce a popular show that is at odds with its own system of voting and (2) fundamental disrespect of cultural shifts as being viable and artistic.
As an institution that celebrates artistic works of musicians, singers, songwriters, producers and technical specialists, we have come to expect that the Grammys upholds all of the values that reflect the very best in music that is born from our culture. Unfortunately, the awards show has become a series of hypocrisies and contradictions, leaving me to question why any contemporary popular artist would even participate. How is it possible that in 2001 The Marshall Mathers LP — an album by Eminem that ushered in the Bob Dylan of our time — was beaten out by Steely Dan (no disrespect) for Album Of The Year? While we cannot solely utilize album sales as the barometer, this was certainly not the case. Not only is Eminem the best-selling artist of the last decade, but The Marshall Mathers LP was a critical and commercial success that sold over 10 million albums in the United States (19 million worldwide), while Steely Dan sold less than 10% of that amount and came and went as quietly as a church mouse. Or consider even that in 2008 at the 50th Annual Grammy Awards, after going into the night as the most-nominated artist, Kanye West’s Graduation was beaten out for Album Of The Year by Herbie Hancock’s River: The Joni Letters. (This was the first time in 43 years that a jazz album won this category.) While there is no doubt in my mind of the artistic talents of Steely Dan or Herbie Hancock, we must acknowledge the massive cultural impact of Eminem and Kanye West and how their music is shaping, influencing and defining the voice of a generation. It is this same cultural impact that acknowledged the commercial and critical success of Michael Jackson’s Thriller in 1984.
Just so that I’m not showing partiality to hip-hop artists (although it would be an entirely different letter as to how hip-hop music has been totally diminished as an art form by this organization), how is it that Justin Bieber, an artist that defines what it means to be a modern artist, did not win Best New Artist? Again, his cultural impact and success are even more quantifiable if you factor in his YouTube and Vevo viewership — the fact that he was a talent born entirely of the digital age whose story was crafted in the most humble method of being “discovered” purely for his singing ability (and it should be noted that Justin Bieber plays piano and guitar, as evidenced on his early viral videos).
So while these very artists that the public acknowledges as being worthy of their money and fandom are snubbed year after year at the Grammys, the awards show has absolutely no qualms in inviting these same artists to perform. At first I thought that you were not paying attention to the fact that the mental complexion of the world is becoming tanned, that multiculturalism and poly-ethnicity are driving new meaning as to what is culturally relevant. Interesting that the Grammys understands cultural relevance when it comes to using Eminem’s, Kanye West’s or Justin Bieber’s name in the billing to ensure viewership and to deliver the all-too-important ratings for its advertisers.
What truly inspired the writing of this letter was that this most recent show fed my suspicions. As the show was coming to a close and just prior to presenting the award for Album Of The Year, the band Arcade Fire performed “Month of May” — only to… surprise… win the category and, in a moment of sheer coincidence, happened to be prepared to perform “Ready to Start.”
Does the Grammys intentionally use artists for their celebrity, popularity and cultural appeal when they already know the winners and then program a show against this expectation? Meanwhile the National Academy of Recording Arts and Sciences hides behind the “peer” voting system to escape culpability for not even rethinking its approach.
And I imagine that next year there will be another televised super-close-up of an astonished front-runner as they come to the realization before a national audience… that he or she was used.
You are being called to task at this very moment, NARAS.
And to all of the artists that attend the Grammys: Stop accepting the invitation to be the upset of the year and demand that this body upholds its mission for advocacy and support of artistry as culture evolves.
Demand that they change this system and truly reflect and truly acknowledge your art.Steve Stoute

February 20th, 2011 at 7:06 pm
STEVE JUST BECAUSE ITS POPULAR DOESNT MEAN ITS GOOD MUSIC !!! CASE IN POINT VANILLA ICE AND MILLI VANILLI YOU KNOW THAT THIS GAME IS DIRTY ESPECIALLY WITH PAYOLA AND BLACKBALLING SO ESPERANZA SPALDING IS A NOBODY JUST BECAUSE SHES NOT ON HOT97 ? OPEN YOUR MIND LET GET OUT THE HOOD AND OPEN OUR MINDS TO LISTEN TO ALL TYPES OF MUSIC WHATS HER STORY SMH REALLY HE PUT HIS TIME AND MONEY INTO THAT WOW !!!
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You are a dumb girl Reply:
February 24th, 2011 at 8:26 pm
NICKALODEAN ACTORS DO NOT WIN OSCARS
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February 20th, 2011 at 7:06 pm
Steve makes a number of great points especially in regards to the use of top artists especially in the hip hop field to get viewers yet deny them there justly earned awards.
Although, personally I’m a fan of E.Spalding and don’t think twice at her beating Beiber.
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Rhyme & Reason Reply:
February 20th, 2011 at 10:05 pm
When Puffy came out (to either present a performance or award)
he had the dimeaner of somebody that didnt wanna be there at all that showed you wut kinda party it was. And alotta awards that we check for dont even get aired. so its still the establishment catering to themselves.
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SMFH Reply:
February 21st, 2011 at 1:01 am
But what about beating Drake?
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Ms. D Reply:
February 21st, 2011 at 9:21 am
@SMFH – Drake is not a new artist tho..
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tweetypiebabe1 Reply:
February 22nd, 2011 at 6:50 pm
He is in grammy terms. His album was released during the grammy acceptance period for this year and as he hasn’t been nominated previously he qualifies for to be nominated as a new artist along with the other categories.
Same can be said for Bieber who is not a new artist as he has been around for at least 2 years and has released about 3 or 4 albums (though some re-releases).
my way Reply:
February 22nd, 2011 at 7:34 pm
No he should not have been considered they actually changed the rules to include him! Remember they would not include Lady Gaga last year becuase she had been nominated for an award the yr prior. Drake should not have been considered therefore I’m glad he didn’t win
Nightfall Reply:
February 21st, 2011 at 12:29 pm
I think Drake is the bigger artist but I don’t consider him the better artist vs Spalding. but that’s just me.
Truthfully I would have understood and been fine with him winning.
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Knile Reply:
February 23rd, 2011 at 12:26 pm
Just to respond to the new artist part…E. Spalding is on her third album. She is NOT a new artist by far.
Nightfall Reply:
February 23rd, 2011 at 6:31 pm
I know. She is “new” by their definition. But Drake isn’t that new either sooooo it is what it is….
tweetypiebabe1 Reply:
February 26th, 2011 at 4:25 pm
Yea but neither is Bieber when you look at it. I mean this is his second album…and he’s had two (or maybe even three re-releases from it).
So clearly they need to change their definition.
February 20th, 2011 at 7:32 pm
I totally agree. What’s the point in using popular artists to promote this “award” show, if these artists aren’t winning the awards they’re nominated for?? And the most ridiculous thing about the new artist award wasn’t that Bieber should have won, but that Esperanza was probably the LEAST popular artist of all the nominees.
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Mercury Reply:
February 21st, 2011 at 2:19 am
popularity should NEVER define how talented or artistic a musician is!! What should be looked at is if Esperanza never won the award or gottten nominated would we have even known of her talents?? Do agree that the grammys are
using popular artists to help promote though.
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PFan Reply:
February 21st, 2011 at 11:50 am
you must ubderstand that the big sharks use the images and the voices of the idols of the smaller fish only to drive them towards those bands or artists that nobody knows or care about…plus thee is still this thing going on that jazz or alternative rock is a better or more intellectual form of music…nope, plus those artists represent the people from lower classes, they are our heros, they made it with our help and support why would I or anyone else that supports hip hop and and art forms that derived from hip hop , watch a program that is going to,year after year,diminish our lifestyle !! F*ck the grammys !!
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February 20th, 2011 at 7:51 pm
I remember Steely Dan winning back in 2001 over Eminen. Even in 8th grade I knew that was some BS.
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February 20th, 2011 at 8:05 pm
@toldyouso
This is where the ignorant person who probably skimed through the WHOLE letter. Did you get his point at ALL.?? He stated in so many words that there votes are rigged. If someone like Eminem who obviously had the BIGGEST album in 2001 & had the biggest impact as an artist was snubbed of a grammy by someone who has come & go. There is something WRONG with the picture here.
Another case in point… JUSTIN BEIBER who has pretty much been popular even before he got the deal & swept the nation with his youtube videos, then he got signed. Has all these #1 singles. Fans from all over the world had a #1 movie. & has the WHOLE world screaming that they have Beiber fever. Why in God’s name did he NOT win. It was written all over there face.
& YES Esparanza Spailding is a nobody. Hooray, she from the Bay Area. Which is my home, but WTF no one has EVER heard of her & neither does anybody know any of her music right now. There is one point in an artist life where if they have done GREAT in there music career they deserve a grammy. But Esparanza.??!!! NO it’s wasn’t her time I don’t feel… It was either two people Drake or Justin.
Leave it up to an ignorant person to comment on something they don’t have ANYTHING to back it up with… What you said was retarded. Get a life. UhmahGod.
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toldyouso Reply:
February 21st, 2011 at 1:04 am
Best New Artist not Most Popular *bbm blank stare* Im sure the award shows have there own set of politics but you make my case just because you havent heard of someone who has put out an album doenst mean its not worthy of being name best new artist now if you want to say he had the most impact or the most youtube views or is the most popular at the time of voting then cool let lil man win but expand your mind so when they have a category like this then you can make an educated decision not just got my whats hot right now
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CheyRenee Reply:
February 21st, 2011 at 1:20 am
& AGAIN like I said. You shud RE-READ what he wrote. Just think about it. Sure maybe Ms. Spalding is hot. But would there be millions of viewers if she or anyone else that won an award performed?? Ummmmmm. I think NOT. & I’ll say this also. The MAIN people who REALLY deserve the awards are the ones that are performing. & who exactly is around for time being. The artist that have been here for a while are people that Steve stated in his letter I.e.: Kanye & Eminem. Kanye: A FUCKING genius.! Should he win an award YES. Drake: he’s Doing right & killin’ everything. Should he have won YES. Will he be around for a WHILE yes. You say this like the letter he wrote had artist like Cali Swag District or fuckin’ J-Kwon. Those are definitely time being/one hit wonders.
Do more research. & re-read the letter.
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tweetypiebabe1 Reply:
February 22nd, 2011 at 6:59 pm
I read this letter carefully and while I can see his point and agree with some of what he’s saying I also would like to stick up for Esperanza and Arcade Fire.
Have you ever thought that artistically these people are better or just as good as Bieber and Drake but because we haven’t had the chance to hear them we know nothing of this? Have you ever spared a thought that yea by doing this these people have now been given publicity and a name so their music can be explored?
You make it sound like Esperanza and Arcade Fire are one hit wonders. I know for a fact Arcade Fire has been around for years and has been generating critical buzz for a very very long time. It is only know they have become so ‘mainstream’.
Drake, Em, Kanye and even the Biebs are all great artist some of whom I love and some of whom I enjoy their music but popularity isn’t everything. Yes the use of their name draws viewers in but at the end of everything artistic value should count a whole lot and the grammys should also be a place to not just honour artists of our day but bring forth new ones into the spotlight.
My biggest concern with the grammys is the lack of televised categories for things like black music. Case in point R&B. Not even one award for R&B NONE!
The grammy’s have their faults don’t get me wrong but there’s other things we should be looking at then Justin Bieber and Kanye West (who has won 14 grammy’s by the way) getting snubbed for an award when we know they have the talent to gain things in the future.
Why he didn’t write this letter when they snubbed India.Arie or Common years ago?!
Bieber and Drake will be around to win awards for years especially if they are as good as they seem to be presenting themselves now. Sometimes you have to let it be someone else’s time. How dare you say it’s not Esperanza’s time. Who are you to determine that?
PFan Reply:
February 21st, 2011 at 11:52 am
I agree with you, their point is to have us talking about that girl and that other band…that´s pure advertising,for free !
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CheyRenee Reply:
February 22nd, 2011 at 7:45 pm
@tweetypiebabe1
YESSSS! Good shit Baby! I love a debate.! Let’s get this SHIT STARTED!
I’ll give you my reasons why!!!
No Problem.
I did determine it you wanna know why?! Because it’s simple. It’s MY opinion! Yes it’s very true I did think about the fact that Esparanza & “the other band” are just as good if not better than Beiber or Drake. But you wanna know the newsflash of this WHOLE point. NO ONE CARES! no one cares about a person that has won a grammy who is right now nameless. My point before was if these people who are winning the Grammy’s were to perform then where would the viewers eyes be?! Probably watchin’ lifetime movies. The people that are VERY popular & that were performing ARE NOT time being at all!! Case in point: Lady Gaga/Rhianna/Drake/Usher… etc., Those people are here to stay. YOU are the one that acted like I’m taking up for DJ Unk/or the GS Boyz (*stanky leg) C’mon son.! I think YOU should RE-read what I wrote in fact because not once did I say or make it sound like they were one-hit wonders AT ALL! I SAID That because of all of the success and what they have accomplished for them to NOT win over a person no one has really heard of was sort-of a **blank stare. NO one said that she wasnt talented. NO one said she was a one-hit wonder. I said that it wasnt her time YET….!!!
& I stuck up for Kanye,Em,Drake & Beiber not because they were popular but because they are GREAT artist. They have worked there asses of the WHOLE year & Grammy night was there night to shine!
& you say “How dare I” huh?! Just like the other millions of people who probably feel the same way I do. & my name is Chey Renee. Thats who I am, & I determined it.
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tweetypiebabe1 Reply:
March 1st, 2011 at 4:43 am
I know the reply is late and it won’t be as strong an arguement as you or I would like but the point of winning the grammy is to possibly give her a name in the mainstream market. The grammy’s ain’t a popularity contest even though it has brought its faults upon itself!
The grammy’s gotta promote, they gotta pay them bills and if they gotta hype it up to do it then they will. How can you say those people are here to stay longer then Gaga and them?! You don’t know that. You got people like Kenny G and Herbie Hancock and them who are instrumentalists who’ve been around for years and have been very successful they’re just not in the mainstream but they still making their money and they still got their fan base!!
You called Esperanza a nobody and you just said that people like Gaga and Drake and them will be around longer. Might not be saying one hit wonder straight out but you definitely implying something.
Popularity isn’t the be all end all for these awards and it shouldn’t be! Esperanza and Arcade Fire have worked their asses off just as much to be there and if these artists are as great as you believe they’ll be around for years to pick up more awards.
India.Arie got snubbed, Common got snubbed, Mariah has even got snubbed but it doesn’t mean they aren’t as successful or talented.
Anywho it’s done and over with and I know this reply is well late but I still wanted to reply.
You are a dumb girl Reply:
February 24th, 2011 at 8:15 pm
First off you dumb girl, you don’t get the point. Grammy’s are not about selling albums. Brittney Spears can sell albums. That doesn’t mean it is good. New Kid’s on the BRICK sell albums.
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CheyRenee Reply:
February 24th, 2011 at 8:33 pm
Dumb girl huh.?! Dang are you THAT mad.?! I’m glad I could bring it out of you. What’s so funny is you stompin’ thru here tryna clown & you aint know already it’s deep then rap. Imma tell you like I said to the rest. Read the letter line for line. You the dummy because I aint said shit about sellin’ albums. That wasn’t the basis of my point. why don’t you go read a book. Cause you don’t know shit about shit. This is chess it aint checkers. Politics is the game. & you straight up lame with yo’ antics. Go do yo’ research. Cause I asint said shit about sellin’ no records.
These are everybodies opinions. You up here takin’ shit personal. You that mad huh.?! I hope they pay you for yo’ moods & you makin’ dollars. Maybe you can deposit some money in my bank account LOL.!
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February 20th, 2011 at 8:13 pm
I have boycotted the Grammys for 19 years now, for this very reason. Truly, I don’t mind offbeat or indie artists winning because I understand it’s the votes of the members of an organization barely worth joining that determine the wins (plus I love the underdog). What I do mind is the pimping of pop acts to drive up ratings for ad revenue and income for an organization that remains out of touch, irrelevant, and uncaring to these same mainstream artists, many of whom are urban artists. And shame on these same artists for performing, for free, for an organization so out of touch. Instead of spending $100 to join NARAS, just write a check for “Grammy In The Schools” and call it a day!
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February 20th, 2011 at 8:18 pm
Mr. stoute,
The Grammys is not a popularity contest, it is an award show to award those who create the best music. I’m sure you feel Justin Nieves should’ve won because of his popularity, at the same time i am sure you have never heard esperanza spalding’s album. It is a classic masterpiece.
We leave the popularity contest to MTV. The Nara judges quality of music.
Besides, isn’t your brother out getting aids from dj clue or something?
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February 20th, 2011 at 8:24 pm
steve stoute is absoloutely correct, period.
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You are a dumb girl Reply:
February 24th, 2011 at 8:17 pm
Trey D, Youre a So Correct! You should go suck Justin Beaver’s Dick.
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February 20th, 2011 at 9:20 pm
true words.
im cool with bieber not winning best newcomer – i doubt he writes the songs or comes up with ideas for his very own project.
im fine with drake not getting a grammy for thank me later- but drake SHOULD have got best newcomer.
So Far Gone People!!!
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February 20th, 2011 at 9:56 pm
Hip Hop to many ppl is still a growing stain on white sheets. They dont wanna accept and/or acknowledge that its there no matter how big it gets. Many ppl are still closet hiphop fans aswell. Also because to them it still has alotta the things that they “frown upon”. And they know once hey let their standards drop for us the hiphop culture then they lose their friends and sponsors etc.
Everybody has a bone to pick wit HipHop
based on “Sampling”, are time time honored tradition. Theres a guy that comes out during the show that talks about making sure artist getting the money they deserve n is owed to them, well “Sampling & Downlaoding” is wut he’s talking about in so many words.
The Kanye issue, wut we forget is Kanye fought for “Jesus Walks” Not for anything
else that he’s done. He felt coming from a rapper a Religious based song should’ve won automatically. If more Producers an Rappers stood behind their work it’d be a frenzy an awards wouldnt make a difference.
As far as the Eminem issue goes, Eminem doesnt do “Nigga Rap”. He can hold it down wit the best of them but he does
“White America Rap & Celebrity Satire” hence the song “White America” Mtv loved that shit. That Marshall Mathers LP was Dope i loved every song exept for Amittyville (some homo.. conotations) but the album itself was Hot n sure enough it was bein’ bumped in the streets.
Now as far as subject matter there isnt a black rapper that can pull that shit off wut so ever.
Like There was Album Quality Mixtapes that shouldve been recognized that were far better than Drakes mixtape and album, like ‘Kush & Orange Juice’ the whole mixtape was a complete composition nothing outta place perfect from beginning to end.
But at the end of the day the “Uppety Awards Curcuit” is the Peanut Gallery Judgement that really doesnt mean much in the Streets or The UnderGround or just Rappers tryna go Platinum. So if you happen to get a Grammy Nod then ya grateful.
In 2011 Yes We are ‘still’ at War with the Establishment.
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February 20th, 2011 at 10:11 pm
And when we put the HipHop Awards on the pedestal that it should be then we can say we did are jobs. Then they’ll die to have us at there parties.
we want there attention! when we dont they’ll ask for ours!
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Young Scuba Reply:
February 20th, 2011 at 11:46 pm
I’m sorry but I can’t respect an annual award show that had Gucci Mane perform every 5 minutes in 2009
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Rhyme & Reason Reply:
February 21st, 2011 at 12:53 am
because right now B.E.T. dont take it serious and because we dont.
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February 20th, 2011 at 10:27 pm
maybe cause kanye and eminem are public assholes grammy voters wont give then a grammy, and the other guys are garbage.
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February 21st, 2011 at 12:16 am
Marshall Mathers LP, with the exception of some great records like “Stan” and “The Way I Am”, is part listenable.
Have you tried listening to that album recently? That shit is so dated it’s unbelievable.
as for Steve Stoute, I really don’t take what he has to say seriously. Freddie Foxxx’s “Industry Shakedown” still makes me laugh.
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February 21st, 2011 at 1:21 am
let the popular artist go to mtv or bet and fight over who had the most down loads or views on youtube
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February 21st, 2011 at 2:26 am
I agree..let the vmas do popularity..the folks at the grammys acknowledge those with talent but arent heard because of the machine…
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February 21st, 2011 at 4:58 am
Forgive me IF I’m wrong, but doesn’t Best “New” artist mean just that… “NEW”?? Esperanza Spalding has prior solo albums, Junjo (2006), Esperanza (2008) and Chamber Music Society (2010). So how is she a “NEW” artist or are those solo albums to be considered mixtapes???
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LEEK Reply:
February 21st, 2011 at 1:27 pm
Her fist 2 LPs didn’t sell enough for her to considered as an established artist in the public eye.
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MF173 Reply:
February 21st, 2011 at 2:09 pm
So sales are a factor in whether an artist is considered “New” or not?? That doesn’t seem right or fair.
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You are a dumb girl Reply:
February 24th, 2011 at 8:20 pm
Hit yourself on the head. Are you really that dumb? What fucking artist just STARTS SINGING AND GET’S ESTABLISHED? DUUUUUUUUH.. YOU FUCKING DUMBASS. GET THE FUCKING POINT? BEST NEW ARTIST MEANS “RECENTLY” ESTABLISHED DUMBASS.
February 21st, 2011 at 9:58 am
That’s why we have the BET AWARDS the very same awards that the big artist don’t attend and snub they nose up too you know they arevthe only ones who can kill what they create they killed the urban clothing Annard killing hip hop trying to go and dress Rock and pop so don’t complain about a ceremony that before your twenty year career was always against the black people work on creating a new format forth new digital culture
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February 21st, 2011 at 10:00 am
Spell check on iPhone sucks but figure it out and stop selling out
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February 21st, 2011 at 1:25 pm
Don’t get cracked in the head with a bottle by the grammy board Steve
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February 21st, 2011 at 3:06 pm
Music sales does not equal talent… There’s a long string of artist that prove that theory.(Gaga for instance) I see his points but I dont fully agree here.
If we only looked to sales then the disappointments would be even greater. What the Grammy’s need more than anything is new blood. Meaning new members, broader and more diverse. People with the ability to see past their favorite genre and look at the real artistry.
Regarding Ms. E.Spalding she is a great talent she writes, sings, orchestrates and plays all her music. Not a fan of hers but having seen her live she is extremely talented.
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February 21st, 2011 at 4:02 pm
I totally agree with steve but im not suprised because this has been the case for years, although sales dont equate to winning a grammy having a cult following like Em and Kanye and Bieber it should come into play, and I just think its simple these urban artist like steve said need to stop allowing themselves to be pimped out for ratings and just boycott the Grammys and lets see then if they notice the era of there ways
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February 21st, 2011 at 4:56 pm
valid points in this read
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george murphy Reply:
February 22nd, 2011 at 2:52 am
In the 70′ies after decades of great music such as (big band era, do-wop, motown, erly rock, rock invasion) came a cancer called Disco. I thought Disco was w worst music I ever heard. Disco han a deformed child–name rap-hip hop. this made disco sound good. Around the same time came baggy clothes and caps worn anyway but normal, coming from young convicts prisons had no clothes in small, pulling the hat all the way down on head, on done to look goofy before.monotonous beats and sounds like a pile drive and a guy talking crap that rhymes. Like fingernails on a blackboard. Over 30 yrs its still here-rap-hip hop does not qualify for top awards on grammys it should have its own catagory
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Mercuy Reply:
February 26th, 2011 at 2:34 pm
Regardless of youre musical opinions hip hop has shaped the way way music is marketed and received. Plus it still remains the highest grossing genre today so not having hip hop at the Grammys cuts out a huge section in music like it or not. You obviously have other gripes outside of hip hop but I have already given ppl like you to much thought. Put yourself around the culture before u comment on it!
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February 22nd, 2011 at 6:58 am
Well the people who decide the big fields (Best New Artist, Record/Song/Album of The Year) are selected from a “Blue Ribbon Panel” to ensure diversity. Why do you think there’s always one country album, one rap album, one pop album, one WTF album and one veteran? Then everyone in the NARAS votes and that’s why you get a disconnect from the nominees and the actual winners.
Arcade Fire/Ezperanza Spalding winning leads me to believe that something like The Roots would probably win a big award before Kanye and Eminem. They’re not as polarizing or offensive and their win would be more in line with Lauryn Hill’s and Outkast’s. They’re also an actual band. The problem is they only allow one hip-hop artist at a time and some bigger artist like Wayne, Em, ‘Ye or Jay will always block them.
I’m OK with Eminem not winning. That album is not that great. Kanye losing next year will sting more.
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February 22nd, 2011 at 7:09 pm
“At first I thought that you were not paying attention to the fact that the mental complexion of the world is becoming tanned…”
ETHER!
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February 22nd, 2011 at 7:49 pm
Excuse me if I didn’t read through all of the comments, but how come nobody has mentioned Taylor Swifts’ sympathy Grammies from last year. Taylor won a bunch of categories that she had no business winning, but the “voters” felt sorry for her because Kanye ruined her moment on another award show. The Grammies are rigged, just like most other award shows… Btw, Eminem’s Recovery album wasn’t that good. I’m not sure what all the critical acclaim is about. But that’s just my opinion.
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February 26th, 2011 at 8:33 pm
RAPPERS MUST WIN EVERY TIME THEY ARE NOMINATED. THAT IS ALL.
SIKE.
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March 15th, 2011 at 9:53 pm
Arcade Fire have released the best ALBUM of the last decade or so. 3 or 4 top 40 hits and some nice dancing are not qualities that deserve a Grammy for best ALBUM. No doubt that Kanye, Drake and co. have released some massive hits and amassed huge sales. The pop scene may sell more records, but to 14 year olds who follow whatever’s in the charts. The charts themselves are overrun by ‘artists’ who aren’t there because their songs are of a higher quality but through their influential contacts and the image their label creates for them.
However, it’s probably fair to say that the misconstrued image of hip-hop/ rap may be a reason why recognition from art-world is not yet forthcoming, i.e. violence and drugs. Perhaps the Grammy organisers think that if formal recognition was given to one hip-hop album, it would cause people to listen to further hip-hop such as Waka Flocka Flame, Gucci Mane and other people who would be terrible influences on a generation.
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