Mon 19 Nov 2007
Stay Classy, Saigon….or at least try to. seriously.
Posted by Miss Info under beef , not good for hip hop , quotes[34] Comments
My weekend: Went to a really good Ghostface, Rakim and Brother Ali concert at the Nokia Theater. (more on that to come) Met up with family from out of town, did a little shopping. Played Super Mario Galaxy….good times.
But then I get back online, and what the hell is all this Saigon hullabaloo? I like his music alot, and I think he’s very talented but wow, he sounds like a massive asshole on this radio interview. I’m not talking about all the disses towards other artists. That’s just the par for the course these days. I’m talking about the part where he tells one of the women at Sirius’s Lip Service show that he’ll punch her in the face.
You’re built for thug talk all day every day, but come completely unhinged when one female journalist hits you with some slick banter? I can understand being irritated and even shutting the interview down, but get ahold of yourself. This ain’t the yard. And you’re smart enough to adjust your act according to the element that you’re in.
You can hear Saigon’s interview at Sohh here…and here
You can read Saigon’s statement on NobodysSmiling here…(summary: I was drunk, I’m sorry to Nelly, I’m sort of sorry to the woman I thought was Melyssa Ford, I’m gonna slap Joe Budden)
Eskay has more details on the fallout here…
And Peter Rosenberg has Joe Budden’s reaction here…
sigh….I’m gonna go back to Super Mario Galaxy. He can turn into a bee. That makes everything better.
UPDATE: Saigon says he quits…I dont see how that’s going to solve anything, but he definitely seems frustrated. Like I said before, he’s very talented, but he’s torn between insisting on a message and promoting the opposite of it. For example: what’s the moral difference between gang violence and personal violence? Click more to read is treatise.
I QUIT……..
You see I got into rap a very very long time ago, I didnt do it to become rich, I didnt do it to become famous, I did it because it was a way for me to vent about the bad things that were happening around me, It was therapy for me so to speak…..Ive realized now that sooo many people have gotten into Hip Hop, whether the business aspect or otherwise, its not really for me anymore…First of all, people need to know that I am a contraversial person period, before I ever was in a magazine, on T.V. in a studio, I was very very deep in the street shit..Contraversy has always followed me, Its unfortunate but it is what it is…Its my life…I dont try to start shit to cause contraversy, its the media, the press and yall who eat off contraversy who start the shit, try to make me look wild or out of control when Im just being who I am. Everybody is like, ‘OMG how is gonna show up to a radio station drunk’, hahaha, Im a rebel, I done showed up to court drunk facing 15 years and yall talking about a radio show.. This is the bullshit, hahaha its funny how people listen to all these rappers talk about all these guns they bust and being in the trap and hustling, and everybody loves the music and celebrates it, the second he gets caught up in some of the shit he was rapping about, everybody is talking about how stupid he is and all this shit.. …I cant take turning on a computer and seeing my name being thrown around in all kinds of ways, Its not good for me, and not good for these writers, I am accident prone for life, I will take a page out of the Wu Tang book and beat the shit outta one of yall niggaz man, youre playing with fire.. Should I post my rap sheet on the internet to remind yall , Im not a fucking studio thug man, … I never signed up for this so Im stepping away from this fake shit…..I did a interview on Shade45, the interview was 2 hours long mind you, we talked about EVERYTHING from what we need to do as a people to get on track to economizing and everything but you know whats on all the so called media outlets in boldface as the headline, ‘Saigon Disses Whoever’…You know what part of a 2 hr interview people replay? Me saying something about someone…If I woulda said, Ill slap John Hardy Hawkins for his role in the Slave trade, they would never put it in boldface or re run it 1000 times, but If I say Ill slap a rapper or something, Its the headline news of the day….Thats ass backwards to me so Im done. I dont like not being able to speak my mind without some fucking clown being able to make a story out of it because Im a “rapper” and “rappers” shouldnt say those things….hahahah I didnt sign up for this..No more interviews, no more mixtapes, no nothing….Im not a rapper anymore, Im done.. Im back to being regular me…This shit is too fake for me, I found myself getting caught up in the bullshit but now Ill gladly walk away…These people are so predictable that to prove to my niggas who would say my buzz was dying or whatever, I would say ‘oh yeah’, watch this, then for fun, I would just do an interview and make a comment about someone because I knew they would run back like little bitches who instigate something to get the people talking. Then walah, my buzz is back, (nevermind the 10 great new songs i wouldve just put out)..But its not fun anymore…I look at the Prodigy incident, that started not because of anything but these media outlets…He told me to suck his dick in an INTERVIEW..Then it becomes physical, we both coulda got shot, stabbed or even killed…Had I been with my crew somebody wouldve died in there all over something that started in an INTERVIEW. You got this other guy throwing my name around on T.V. now thats going to get physical, Then watch, the same people who instigated it will be talking about how senseless we are..I dont give a fuck if nobody ever does a story on me again..I dont rap anymore, I dont need it anymore… I no longer have to keep pretending to be a certain way to care about a radio spin, or an interview, so I can address these people when I see them like I BEEEEN wanting to, and thats unbiased. NO MORE ASS KISSING FOR ME. All of that trying to be politically correct bullshit is just that, bullshit..There is no honor amongst theives…Now I can say what the fuck I want, when I want, however the fuck I want without people feeling like they have the right to ridicule me, judge me and talk slick about me because I have this title “Rapper” attached to my name, or because Im a “Rapper” who supposed to know how to talk to these media people who really dont give 2 fucks about hip hop or black culture period. How many of these outlets are owned by black people anyway? I know alot of people dont give a fuck about me stepping away, some people might but so what, its a wrap…Some people will say I was wack, I never had punchlines or funny metaphores , but that wasnt my thing anyway….I left enough great music behind for people to understand I was good at rapping, thats all I ever wanted out of it, But now Im back on my bullshit…I have no KIDS, I have nothing to lose..My reason for ever taking it to this level in the first place was to use the music to to try to get black people out of the stages of deaf, dumb and blindness and that was a fight I probably couldve never won anyway…I wouldve given my life trying to save my people and died in vein like alot of people did.. Oh, and to that rapper thats throwing my name around, U must be retarted or like hospital food or something, we have BEEF homie, not rap beef, beef beef I have no more to say about that, its a small world, Ill see him…Fuck this bum ass rap game anyway, its full of fake ass niggaz who pump poison to the kids, make a few dollars and act like theyre larger then life when they know their music is detrimental to their fucking communities, If it aint about sex, its about drugs or violence, where are the songs about getting an eduacation, or being responsible parents and shit, or stopping the Gang Violence…This shit is sickening………..SAIGON IS DEAD…Should I say Ill slap a rapper so they run and put it in all their news section and gossip columns..Okay Ill slap the shit outta EVERY Rapper hows that….I QUIT, now I gotta figure out how Im gonna break this to Just Blaze……THE GREATEST STORY NEVER TOLD….hahahahahahaha PROPHECY

November 19th, 2007 at 9:33 pm
Props for playing Super Mario Galaxy.
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November 19th, 2007 at 9:50 pm
Saigon needs to worry less about the gossip and more about the product he’s putting out! Just saying.
http://paidandpopular.blogspot.com
Sai, if you’re reading this… leak the album lol
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November 19th, 2007 at 10:02 pm
This dude need to get a hit record and stay out of meatball shit,it always something petty and frivolous shit, he should hurry up and drop flop and go to koch…….His 15 minutes is not up yet.
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November 19th, 2007 at 10:22 pm
HEY MISS INFO U SHOULD PEEP SAI. BLOG IF U HAVEN’T ALREADY….
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November 19th, 2007 at 10:51 pm
HITLESS SAIGON.JUST LIKE PAPPOOSE N TRUE LIFE-U WOULD STAY HITLESS.
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November 19th, 2007 at 10:52 pm
I’m starting to have a lot of concern about dude. Ok he is talented, ok he is an ex con but why it looks like that he can’t get away from BS ?
First it was the “myspace beef” with Just Blaze. Then the stupid fight with Prodigy. Now this…
Saïgon needs some really good career advices .
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November 19th, 2007 at 11:04 pm
I like dude’s music too, but co-sign Info when you say projecting one agenda then doing another thru the music. Add D. Banner and Tru-Life to that mix as well…and a little of the kid Termanology, but he’s getting better. On a side note, I’ve been trying to get this finished for eons, and it’s finally done. I know you’re a pretty big Nas fan, and in my research, I’ve concluded that there are a lot more than I thought. You have a vision in your head based on sales, time in the game, general demand, and I knew Nas had fans, goes without saying…but it seems like there are more people that appreciate him than I thought, so here’s my interview with Nas pre-Illmatic (Feb. ‘94 (yeah I’m a vet love!!!)) in 4 parts. Peace, enjoy when you can…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRE6UgJ4z0U
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EgPEIVR9xs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMHOjiDL2yY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmQtjrbJZLw
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November 19th, 2007 at 11:27 pm
I never heard dude music (Never interested) but damn that interview made him sound like a real ass!
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November 19th, 2007 at 11:46 pm
huh?
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November 19th, 2007 at 11:52 pm
I got a feeling this is saigon playing an April fools joke in November. He’s telling the truth though. This rap game is filled with so many pussy ass niggas and chicks. A lot of the rap media are failed entertainers that critique others to maintain relevance…kinda like punk kids that grow up to be cops. And a lot of these rappers that you praise are pure pussy and generally not good people. I feel the boy’s pain. Saigon is what the rap game needs more of. More sai less Wayne! Chuuch!
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November 20th, 2007 at 12:00 am
@7 rich nice…wow, i love this! but, there’s so much static I can barely hear the audio. Can you transcribe the interview and post it? And the photos in the first clip are great! Thanks so much for sendin it along.
-Info
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November 20th, 2007 at 12:12 am
Glad you like, yeah my bad on the stat-ique it was pre digi recorders (at least my budget) too! I’ll get to work on that transcription for ju. Peace.
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November 20th, 2007 at 12:51 am
Whats funny is most of yall comments which lets me know whos real(not keeping it real)but real as experience in certain aspects of life. no one is just one way all the time. life is circumstantial, meaning that I might promote positivity in my music which I feel is called for but Im not going to let certain incidents transpire with doing what I feel in my heart. Every one has morals and ethics they live by, at the end of the day Sai is a street dude and most of these cats in the industry claim to be street, when in Rome. Nuff Said
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November 20th, 2007 at 12:55 am
oh yeah, hes not the most lyrical but his message is potent, Numbaz dont be the proverbial white dude, meaning you dont know anything about someone or something but you pass judgement. And thats the bottom line with what Sun is saying let he be without sin. For the ones thats posted and dont drink so be it. But for the ones thats do dont sit here and judge because we’ve all said or done something stupid while intoxicated and if youre like but hes being interviewed…… we’ve all done stpid things while intoxicated. but me no buts. Peace
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November 20th, 2007 at 1:27 am
i dunno i like sai,i think he was wet and his mouth started talking b4 his brain cought up we all make mistakes so im not going to hold this against the dude i think he tried to catch his self when he said ill punch you in the face and run.?not sure,ne way hes not lyrical enough for joe budden,sai’s nice but hes not ready for joey, side note- rich nice good look. info keep doin your thing.
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November 20th, 2007 at 1:30 am
Doing interviews drunk is just wack!
Super Mario Galaxy FTW
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November 20th, 2007 at 3:02 am
im glad this nigga put her on blast you cant just be comin out the mouth like that on no street nigga i mean personally i would neva hit a female but that doesnt mean that they shouldnt sometimes
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November 20th, 2007 at 4:08 am
If every rapper had a Wii @ Mario Galaxy,
Hip-Hop would be a safer place.
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November 20th, 2007 at 4:14 am
Hip hop is just sad nowadays. I see where he’s coming from to an extent but I don’t think he should just quit. He’s probably just mad and drunk and will change his mind later but who knows? Props to you miss info for playing mario galaxy, thats my shit! I’m kinda far, I got like 40 something stars, that games addicting like crack lol.
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November 20th, 2007 at 4:23 am
Don’t this dude got a contract? Which means he can’t quit…
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November 20th, 2007 at 4:40 am
Dont know who he is.
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November 20th, 2007 at 5:30 am
Joe Budden is a savior for some reason to some of you internet types. But real talk if he’s so hot why is he still a free agent? Because he is average. He says a few slick lines but he’s muy forgettable. Now niggaz put the gay tag on him….he’s nothing in the grand scheme of rap. I got a feeling saigon is gonna tap his jaw! Hey miss info where’s ur post on the girl jha jha leaving the dips. This is dipset all day dotcom right? Luv ur blog babygirl…
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November 20th, 2007 at 6:42 am
is this what we call entertainment? an “artist” willing to beat down a female over words? i’m not feeling him. he needs to play his role and focus on his career. if you ask me he’s soft if he can’t handle that. if he didn’t run like he claims then he doesn’t have to react as he did. we need to have a higher level of consciousness in hip hop. it belongs to us!
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November 20th, 2007 at 7:36 am
Sigh gone lost.
Who do we have left?
Ortiz?
Pap?
not looking too promising i had high hopes for dude.
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November 20th, 2007 at 4:30 pm
[...] Fall of Saigon: First he tells a female reporter he’s gonna punch her in her the face. Then the backlash begins. And now Saigon claims he’s quitting Hip Hop. [...]
November 20th, 2007 at 7:43 pm
You can take the dude out the hood but……yall know the rest. He is a product of his lifestyle. I may not agree with his antics but he is dropping NOTHING BUT TRUTH IN HIS RESIGNATION LETTER. Even on this thread…dude said like 40 truisms in his exit speech but majority on here still focusing more on his less than admirable interview.
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November 20th, 2007 at 10:37 pm
@ AKU3: So threating a female, doing an interview drunk & jus poppin off at the mouth is cool? Doubt it. Even tho dude says he’s “street” does that mean he shouldnt be professional in his profession?
Any and Everybody can point out the flaws in music today and say whats wrong or right but unless you’re working toward making it better you’re jus running your mouth.
Bottom line: For example, You cant be a political leader trying to better the people & murdering people at the same time, but the murders are justified because you’re a political leader.
My point wasnt about his music it was about his behavior. Jus like his life made him who he is, my life made who I am so respect my views and opinions accordingly.
Peace
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November 21st, 2007 at 1:41 am
so the big baby brian wanna retire,from what? mix tapes?he ain’t done n e thing major,he won’t b missed.BYE BRIAN.g.t.f.o.h.
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November 21st, 2007 at 10:11 pm
someone put their foot in their mouth
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November 25th, 2007 at 6:44 pm
ITS CRAZY, I KNOW SAI PERSONALLY. HES A COOL GUY, SINCE HE STARTED BEING KNOWN IN THE INDUSTRY PEOPLE STARTED HATING. NOTHING BUT BAD MEDIA. HES RIGHT PEOPLE (RAPPERS) ARE PHONY.
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November 30th, 2007 at 12:16 am
He sounds confused. On his mixtapes he’s talking all that ra ra shit, when before he was on some positivity. Which one is it?
Lol@ “quitting” hip hop.
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April 16th, 2008 at 2:56 am
Joe b da runner up to Gitty. I rest in Jersey City, where Joe n Sai both lived n man Joe is strate pussy. My money is on Sai. Listen baby like Katt Williams said if u got 10 niggaz hatin try to figure out how to 15 by da summer. Ha!! Jah Bless
Amneris
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April 16th, 2008 at 3:00 am
i thought the shit wus funny how she tried to front like she aint say all dat n my nigga wuz like miss me w/ dat hoe !!!!
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