Wed 7 Jan 2009
Real Life: a public execution in Oakland
Posted by Miss Info under life beyond rap , sigh.... , videos[91] Comments
This is the end of my day online. There is absolutely nothing that should follow this. Tomorrow is another day, but for today, what else is there to say after you’ve watched a man being murdered. If you go your whole life only seeing death but never seeing dying, then consider yourself lucky. But in this youtube age….there’s a cell phone video of a 22-year-old black man named Oscar Grant being shot by Oakland police on the BART public train platform while lying face down and handcuffed. I dont really know all the particulars…what instigated the initial round-up. But the jumbled video is self-explanatory (and there’s also a play-by-play at the end).
The only reason why I forced myself to watch was because I know it’s important, as important as it is horrifying. Far more important than my comfort. And there’s things that need to be done by us to spread the word….Jsmooth sent a link to Racewire’s post:
Five Things You Can Do Right Now About the Oscar Grant Shooting
They’re easy tasks, it’ll take no time…stuff like:
1) Digg the story. Spread word online.
2) Contact BART Director Carole Ward Allen and demand an independent investigation. (510-464-6095 or email BoardofDirectors@bart.gov)
3) Call the BART police to demand immediate action: Internal Affairs: Sergeant David Chlebowski 510.464.7029,dchlebo@bart.gov; Chief of Police: Gary Gee 510.464.7022, ggee@bart.gov
etc.
And watch the video, your eyes don’t lie here.
Here’s a version that shows 2 angles…thank you to Qrazy for the link.
Other version with the following play-by-play from the girl who shot the video.
January 7th, 2009 at 10:53 pm
i cant believe he actually shot him in front of all those people!? its unbelievable! and its weird to think he probably went back to the station at the end of the day to do paper work or w/e..imagine if a regular person was recorded shooting(killing) an unarmed man and walked into a police station, he’d be arrested immediatley…but with a cop he walks free until investigations over
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January 7th, 2009 at 10:53 pm
The cop that did this should spend the rest of his life behind bars.
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January 7th, 2009 at 11:01 pm
something gotta be done with these cops man i mean its like u think jus cause your a cop u have some special powers or something their reg people like me and you.their getting wayy outta hand and their hurting and killing people of all colars left and rite. ask around everybody that me and you no had a bad run in with a cop. i think thats telling us something.i no theirs good cops that help people but in 2009 it seems they are out number by the bad ones.r.i.p to homie that got killed.lets hope this doesnt happend again.messed up thing about it it will.
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January 7th, 2009 at 11:13 pm
thank you for posting this!! people world wide need to see this.
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January 7th, 2009 at 11:28 pm
damn, and on new years day too
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January 7th, 2009 at 11:35 pm
just heard on cnn, the cop resigned and has already moved twice because of threats from people..him resigning proves he’s guilty, and i dont get how hes not immediately arrested once this video hit the net? he not even free on bail, hes just straight free
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January 7th, 2009 at 11:37 pm
It seems obvious that he meant to grab his taser but instead grabbed his gun. After he fires the shot, he backs up and starts freaking out and is obviously shocked. With that said, he should be charged with manslaughter (instead of murder) and spend time in jail. I just wanted to point out that it is obvious he did not shoot that guy on purpose, but it is ridiculous that he was able to go home that night, without giving any sort of statement or questioning.
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January 7th, 2009 at 11:45 pm
Shit like this is going on worldwide, and we all are more concerned about some fabricated ass beefs between rap artist such as Joe Budden and Ransom. We should all be ashamed
Im done!
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January 7th, 2009 at 11:47 pm
it’s Oakland…Oakland,CA.
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January 7th, 2009 at 11:49 pm
That shows a lack of judgment from the cop. If you can’t tell the difference between the weight of a taser and the weight of a gun, then you need not react so quickly…or even carry a gun. Why would they need to taser a man that was PINNED DOWN by 3 other cops anyway?
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January 7th, 2009 at 11:49 pm
oh thanks for the shout out!
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January 7th, 2009 at 11:53 pm
Info…
This was already at the top of digg yesterday
http://digg.com/world_news/Video_SF_cop_shoots_helpless_cooperating_man_in_the_back
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January 8th, 2009 at 12:14 am
@ H-God,I understand your point but as a 2 year veteran he should know the difference between a glock and a taser and where there located on his person.With that said his life was not in physical danger he had time to access the situation and take his time and go for his taser slowly or at a cautious speed,Oscar was on the floor being held down by 2 police.Its plain to see he was speeding,trying to hard and a young black man was left.
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January 8th, 2009 at 12:18 am
wow this is absolutely shocking. Something like this leaves me speechless and tearful. There is no way a cop, a trained cop can confuse a tazer and a gun, I refuse to beleive that excuse. How can they even defend this when two officers had full control of him, even if he was struggling two cops on top of a man who was face down with hands behind his back, makes no sense. We live in a crazy world people, crazy crazy world.
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January 8th, 2009 at 12:26 am
Yo h-god you are entitled to your opinion and pardon me but shut the fuck up! Meant to pull his taser? Are you serious? Last time I checked a taser didnt have to be cocked back like a glock! These police have to little education and are way over stressed and underpaid. More mental evaluation and testing needs to be done before weapons are given out to these high school wimps who got tough behind that badge.
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January 8th, 2009 at 12:39 am
it really hurts to watch, especially considering that could have very well been a friend of mine, family, or even myself….
for that man to lay there on the ground defenseless, seconds away from being killed by someone who’s job is to defend him and everyone
leaves me speechless
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January 8th, 2009 at 1:01 am
…….no ShocC here.This is the world we live in.BlacC president or not there is still no male that is viewed as a bigger threat in America then the blacC man.Period.
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January 8th, 2009 at 1:55 am
Lol @ the dumb nigga who just said he might have thought it was his taser. GTFOH
But on a much lighter note, that shortie who shot the video is fiiiiinnnneeee as fuck
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January 8th, 2009 at 2:13 am
Alright, first off this is one of the most despicable things I’ve ever seen. The officer that fired that shot needs to be arrested like any other person would have been.
But (there is always a “but”), I doubt he will be charged with murder. The fact that he was not handcuffed (in one of the videos I believe that i heard the reporter say “he was not cuffed”, but I’ll look at it again), and the fact he was struggling with the officer will play a BIG role in getting the cop off of murder. On top of the “I was grabbing for my taser” story (That I don’t buy for one second) will get him manslaughter.
Needless to say not only did he end the life of a human being and hurt the lives of many others…he ruined his own. A very sad day indeed.
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January 8th, 2009 at 2:44 am
@ “…….” #18
did you really really, seriously think that that comment was appropriate in any way at all in this thread?
I had the initial urge to not even read this.. like to not even have to add this to the draining consciousness and ever expanding laundry list of painful news stories that surround a young black male’s experience in America. Oscar Grant, another name to add to that list. So horrible.
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January 8th, 2009 at 2:57 am
H-God Says:
January 7th, 2009 at 11:37 pm
It seems obvious that he meant to grab his taser but instead grabbed his gun. After he fires the shot, he backs up and starts freaking out and is obviously shocked. With that said, he should be charged with manslaughter (instead of murder) and spend time in jail. I just wanted to point out that it is obvious he did not shoot that guy on purpose, but it is ridiculous that he was able to go home that night, without giving any sort of statement or questioning.
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first of all i would like to point out that even if he thought it was his taser (which is impossible) there was no need for him to be discharging his taser on a cooperative unarmed man laying face down with two officers on top of him!!!…secondly if u watch the vid you could c he had way more than enough time to c that it was a GUN and not a taser in his hand
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January 8th, 2009 at 3:02 am
that chick is cute
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January 8th, 2009 at 3:02 am
this got no air play on the east coast. they hate us we hate them. the hate that hate made.
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January 8th, 2009 at 3:18 am
smh..
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January 8th, 2009 at 3:29 am
Quiet riot said it perfectly there has to be serious mental screenings before you allow an individual to carry a weapon and deal with uncontrolled environments. I guess if anyone wants to get away with murder all you have to do is join your local police force.
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January 8th, 2009 at 4:30 am
Disturbing (?)
Uh, I wanna 2nd quiet riot
shut the fuck up h-god
oh and the dot dot dot dude control your hormones I think the chick who shot this is a minor ya perv!!!!
I hope justice does take place, I do have faith in our legal system. The part that stings though is no amount of money or jail time is going to bring that young man back.
I’ll definitely keep his family in my prayers, its’the least I can offer after seeing something like this.
I personally have been in a few scenarios with Montgomery county police as well as PG county fags I mean police, and been jumped by both after traffic stops so I know that things can get iffy and prayer really works.
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January 8th, 2009 at 4:47 am
“Fuck the police with an HIV carrier
No Vaseline in the M-16″
-Lloyd Banks(Straight Outta Southside)
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January 8th, 2009 at 8:45 am
shocking
http://www.webjam.com/accraunited_profile
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January 8th, 2009 at 8:56 am
This what breeds fear amongst society: we fear the cops because of incidents like this and they fear us because we don’t want to respect them. Fuck them because this is not going to effect that officer or police department. I hope the family files a civil case and sues that department for 100 million.
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January 8th, 2009 at 10:08 am
@ Quiet Riot
Cops keep their guns loaded with one in the chamber at all times. Glocks do not have any physcial safeties, so all you have to do is draw, pull the trigger, and the gun fires. I am not making excuses for the guy, but as I said in my earlier post, it is OBVIOUS that he did not shoot that man on purpose. That doesen’t mean he shouldn’t be punished.
I carry and handle guns daily. I go the the gun range about once a week. I’m not a gangster, just a gun enthusiast. I know how the Glock works and I do see how it could be possible to mistake one for a taser. Once again, this does NOT excuse what he did, but stop saying he executed him when it is obvious frmo the video that he freaks out and is very upset and the gun is fired.
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January 8th, 2009 at 10:12 am
@ H-God—> Shut Tha F*** Up… He Deserve The Death Penalty via Stoning, 3 COPS, This Nigga is Subdued On The Floor, WHAT MAKES YOU WANNA FU***** SHOOT THE NIGGA???? WHAT INSTINCT IS THAT?? WHAT POSSIBLE THREAT DOES HE POSE TO THE POINT U NEED TO SHOOT AN UNARMED- TASERED-OUT NUMBERED MAN ON THE FLOOR????
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January 8th, 2009 at 10:15 am
@H-GOD—>EVEN IF SOME1(COLORED FOLK) WITH A LICENSED GUN DID WOULD OF DID THAT—THEY’D BE PUTTIN THE NEEDLE IN HIS FU**** VAINS THAT SAME HOUR!!!!!
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January 8th, 2009 at 11:07 am
Yo h-god and the cop who shot that dude use to be lovers in highschool. How can you even say some shit like that? That shit was a plain, flat out execution. I hope to god that someone puts one in that cop’s head.
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missinfo Reply:
January 8th, 2009 at 5:01 pm
this comment is rife with counterproductiveness.
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January 8th, 2009 at 11:13 am
That was hands down an execution. This is something you see terrorist do to prisoners after they dont get ransom or what not.
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January 8th, 2009 at 12:44 pm
h-God, you can speak factually on many things but you CAN’T speak for the cop, no one knows what went on in his head, no one knows if he truly made a mistake or took advantage of a situation
what matters is a man is dead….DEAD
killed by the very ppl who are supposed to serve and ‘protect”
and im sorry but there is too much history that involves unarmed, defenseless minorities being killed by police officers “by mistake”
when a mistake causes such a horrible outcome it can no longer be a mistake, it’s a regret…at most
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January 8th, 2009 at 12:55 pm
@ #20
Appropriate or not, she still fiiiinnnneee as fuck.
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January 8th, 2009 at 12:56 pm
that is discusting, I’m so glad police arent like that here in the U.K.
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January 8th, 2009 at 12:59 pm
@MadasHell- Shut the fuck up? Well you certainly have a way with words. Nobody is going to listen to you if you can’t express your thoughts and feelings without sounding like an idiot.
I NEVER said the cop should not go to jail! I just stated that it seems obvious that it was not an execution because he did not shoot the guy with a gun ON PURPOSE. That is not an excuse, but it is reality. He should serve jailtime on manslaghter charges and be made an example out of. However, stop saying he executed someone when you don’t know shit other than what you saw in a grainy ass video. There are tons of dirty cops out there who plant drugs and set people up, but I truely believe that this guy just made a horrible horrible mistake. If you don’t like my opinion, move on and stop your bitching.
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January 8th, 2009 at 1:01 pm
H-god clearly has more critical thinking skills than a few fools on here.
Immean, Plaxico fucking shot himself – isn’t that enough proof that glocks are sensitive?
BUT… I’m on the fence about the taser v. glock situation because they are completely different objects, the article below outlines the differences.
http://news.pacificnews.org/news/view_article.html?article_id=dea7256744ec1b5e406762890c910aa1
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January 8th, 2009 at 1:12 pm
Glock / Taser its excessive force however you look at it. We witnessed a murder and you feel compassion for the murderer??????
This was not a mistake its the training that officers recieve. if you do not comply they are taught to put you down by any means.
We have become to desensitized to horror.
R.I.P Oscar Grant and those in the future will suffer the same fate……
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January 8th, 2009 at 1:30 pm
wether it was a gun or a taser whatever the initial mistake was it still shows poor judgement as is always the case with these cops the kid had two cops on top of him attempting to “calm him down” and the highly irrational officer fires endangering his co workers as well funny enough he didnt hit one of them ….. of course not they were not his target so confused but still so on point with his aim i dunno his case smell shitty to me
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January 8th, 2009 at 1:33 pm
The officer who shot Oscar Grant needs to be charged for murder or manslaughter and serve the full extent of his sentence, without the possibility of parole. Even if this happens this will never replace the loss the Grant’s have within their family.
One thing I want to point out is this could get worse by not bringing the officer to justice. Or even worse, if the officer is charged then tried by the court and is able to beat the case or have it dismissed, then the city of Oakland could end up like L.A. after the Rodney King verdict. If everyone remembers the aftermath of that, then you already know the conclusion.
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January 8th, 2009 at 1:54 pm
Wow @ All the people saying that the cops needs to be killed.
Sooooo….killing the cop will bring this kid back? Killing the cop would make you all just the same as the cop. I understand it’s emotional, but you all need to grow up.
Like I said before, it COULD have been an accident (even though I don’t believe that). Like someone else said, Glocks are made to point and shoot, no “cocking back” or safety. And 90% of cops carry one in the chamber ready to shoot. Though I still wonder why he would carry his taser and gun on the same hip so close to each other?
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January 8th, 2009 at 2:03 pm
@ NEEF BUCK
The family is suing for 25 mill
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January 8th, 2009 at 2:03 pm
most cops were dicks in hi skool now they are major assholes
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January 8th, 2009 at 2:08 pm
Hey info, it was the BART police that shot him, not the OPD. I live right by that Bart station, that shit was crazy. The Bart police tried to confiscate all the video phones too but I guess they missed these.
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January 8th, 2009 at 2:11 pm
Like my boy Papoose said “ Guns don’t kill people, people kill people”
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January 8th, 2009 at 2:42 pm
Missinfo you late as hell on the news
acceptable. Tell yo team to get on they job. But big ups to you I still love ya. Im glad that girl got it on camera though
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January 8th, 2009 at 3:02 pm
@h-god For a gun enthusiast you sure do little to impress. Glocks have two(2) safety features. 1) is the double trigger it has a mini trigger in the center of the main trigger. Both triggers must be pulled simultaneously. This is to allow your finger to rest on the side of the main trigger and not fire by accident. #2)when glock is not loaded pull trigger and trigger will remain suppressed meaning it will stay back when clip is put in place. That is the only equivalent to a safety switch on the glock. These safety feature are poor exscuses but it is what it is. And it isnt to be confused with a taser know it all!! I dont care how often you go to “the range”! I bet that cop goes more than you and he still fucked up! And you know why he freaked out after popping homeboy because shooting a man is way different that shooting paper at “the range”. People see blood splatter and its a whole other story now. Get the F outta here you Republican Mcain bumper sticker rockin ass jerkoff….woooosah.
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January 8th, 2009 at 3:16 pm
It just gives me chills that someone can do that to a human being ..Oscar Grant(RIP)complied with the officer and this is what he does to him, just shoots him right in his back ..cold blooded murderer ..how is a taser the same thing as a gun ?? f the police, most of them are crooked and do think they are above the law
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January 8th, 2009 at 4:40 pm
This is disgusting, so difficult to watch. I have no words. If this man walks free than we live in a cold world. I dont care if it was an accident or he started his day off planning to do it. IT SHOULDN’T HAVE HAPPENED. SMH.
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January 8th, 2009 at 4:41 pm
I don’t understand why everyone is so surprised by this, especially because he got to get up and go home. Yo, check it. On some real shit, if those videos never came out and there we’re less people there to see this the cops woulda flip it and made it seem as if they were provoked into shooting. It’s the kindda shit they do. I’ll tell you what, where I come from there’s no need for cops. They don’t help us with shit. All they do is harass us and make life more difficult. And pardon me if that’s not true but when you shit like this all it is is reenforcment for negative thoughts towards police in general. I’m tired of this shit man…
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January 8th, 2009 at 5:04 pm
The officer who shot Oscar is named Johannes Mehserle, and he is presently under police protection. Since he wants to take the cowards route and not show up to give an account of his actions that night, steps need to be take to flush him out from whatever hole he’s hiding in. I did a little research and found the following:
Possible email address: jmehserle@sbcglobal.net.
eBay account name:jmehserle; this is almost definite because that username made a purchase from a cop store back in April
facebook: Closest connection I could find is Marrika Mehserle, who was a student at theUniversity of California -Davis campus in northern Cali. A cousin, or sister, perhaps?
I also found a Todd Mehserle in northern Cali; based on his birthday he’s possibly an uncle or maybe even his father.
Im looking up contact info on the president of the BART officers union. Hes been disturbingly silent on this tragedy and is no doubt helping to shelter the sorry excuse for a man tha killed Oscar Grant in cold blood.
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January 8th, 2009 at 5:06 pm
@H-GOD—> SHUT THE F*** WITH THIS “IT WAS A FREAK ACCIDENT”, FORGETTIN TO SET UR ALARM IS AN ACCIDENT NIGGA, U MUST THINK 9-11 WAS AN ATTEMPT TO TRY TO PARK AIRPLANES ON TOP OF SKY SCRAPERS BUT FAILED—>FU***** LOW LIFE
SRY MISSINFO, I LUV U
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January 8th, 2009 at 5:16 pm
@Quiet Riot
Do you honestly think I would call myself a gun enthusiast and not know that? I said there is no PHYSICAL safety on a Glock that must be turned on or off. Someone said the cop would have to cock the gun and turn off a safety, which is not the case. The only thing that trigger safety does is ensure it does not go off without the trigger being pulled. With a Glock, or Springfield XD, or S&W M&P, etc, they only require you to pull the trigger without clicking off a safety. On a pistol such as a 1911, there is an actual thumb safety that has to be pushed down before the gun will fire.
None of this really matters as I believe he MEANT to pull the trigger, but the trigger of his taser instead of his Glock. Most cops carry their taser on the opposite side of their pistol to keep something like this from happening.
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January 8th, 2009 at 5:20 pm
As for the McCain sticker comment, what does that even mean? I voted Obama, and I don’t really see what that has to do with this story in the first place. Nice try Quiet Riot, but please try again.
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January 8th, 2009 at 6:20 pm
I heard this on CNN on Monday. The BART needs to take immeadiate action for what they did. Because this is an unreasonable situation.
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January 8th, 2009 at 6:52 pm
As a law enforcement professional I can say with a clear conscience that the officer was wrong and this is no less than murder. He was instructed I am sure on the use of force and totally disregarded that training and policy. A individual face down being subdued by two other officer does not warrant the use of a taser as the need to escalate force was not there. I have been phoning the B.A.R.T office all day!!!
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January 8th, 2009 at 6:56 pm
1000 blacks kill other 1000 blacks and no riots
1 Caucasian kills 1 black = riots
makes a lot of sense
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missinfo Reply:
January 8th, 2009 at 7:16 pm
I accept your right to that opinion, but your nametag makes you pathetic
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January 8th, 2009 at 7:00 pm
@MadasHellDon’t be mad at me because you sound like an ignorant vagina. He didn’t seem to shoot that guy on purpose, like it or not.
And if you are so outraged over this, why aren’t you doing something more than bitching on a blog about it? Get off your ass and protest, make phone calls, send emails, etc. No no, that would take too much effort. Instead, you’ll continue to act like an online thug and follow the pack. You are a sheep, simple as that.
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missinfo Reply:
January 8th, 2009 at 7:15 pm
vagina? really? why the misogyny?
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January 8th, 2009 at 7:18 pm
It probably happens all the time….this one was just videotaped!
It’s sad how people are actually going to say this guy didn’t do this on purpose…and that he meant to grab a taser instead of a gun. I bet there are tons of cops out there, and klanmen, nazi’s, skinheads, laughing their ass’ off at this video. It is racist, how many white people you see getting beat down like Rodny King, or this guy, or Emit Till or many countless others. Can’t wait to hear what OBAMA will say about this, prolly nothing! He’s too bogged down with a bullshit recovery plan for this economic slump we are all in. This was like totally not in newspapers. They too busy talkin bout John Travolta, which is really sad too but…
The entire history of this Judicial system and all the other branches is to back up/vindicate these crooked ass people…excuse me, devils!( Do your research and realize when and for what this gov’t was created.)That cop will be judged by God, and what God does to that guy and his accomplices will be infinitely worse than anything a human being can do to him here on this earth. In or out a court room….for now the Devil will get off free and run the earth causing more havoc. I’m sure prison guards, are showing inmates this video as what could eventually happen to them.
Bring lawsuits for money?….no amount could do justice to this this! My cousin was in Oklahoma, in the Army…and he said them cowboys out there are hardbody racists. With they brokeback mountain tight ass jeans, and cowboyhats. I always wondered how the fuck is OBAMA gonna go through places like bensonhurst, Howard beach, so on and so on….Black people catch hell all over this earth all the time….it goes on now, in Africa, as we talk and read about this shit. Not just one in an incident, but by the hundreds to thousands at a time. White or Black, get y’all selves right! cause hell is forever…and if you go there you WON’T BE CHILLIN!
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January 8th, 2009 at 7:23 pm
OKAY NOT OKLAHOMA, BUT FUCK OAKLAND!!!! WITH THEY JERRI CURLS!!!!
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January 8th, 2009 at 7:35 pm
@MissInfo
I apologize, that was uncalled for. These internet thugs that talk hard on blogs get under my skin. Especially when they are willing to talk about what angers them but not willing to do anything about it.
I love women MissInfo, especially you!
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missinfo Reply:
January 9th, 2009 at 12:59 am
ok, apology accepted.
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January 8th, 2009 at 7:39 pm
@Hgod you attempted to float an argument it didn’t work. Accept it and let it go. You’re only digging yourself into a deeper hole. I’ve fired a glocc (military) and I’ve used a taser. The handles are not the same. (not even close) A reasonable assessment from the video was he panicked, saw a large crowd of screaming kids and he wanted to assert himself and control over the situation. He was left with only one last bargaining chip his gun. That seems to be the problem with a large number Policemen. They seem to think you become a super hero when you put on the uniform. The job is to protect and serve and not kill and maim and humiliate the citizens who’s tax dollars pay your salary. smh
………….Oh H-god again shut the fuck up
pretty please with sugar on top
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January 8th, 2009 at 8:16 pm
Didn’t Brandy kill someone?
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January 8th, 2009 at 8:30 pm
Alright, watched the video again. He wasn’t cuffed and he was struggling…but the fact that there were 3 officers on top of him shows that there was no need for lethal force.
The more reports that I see, the more I start to believe the “taser accident” story (Maybe its the CNN/Fox brainwashing getting to me). But I REALLY can’t see him shooting him in front of other cops/people/cameras on purpose.
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January 8th, 2009 at 8:57 pm
i cried watching that…its hard for me to see that…that “pop” and then the awkward silence. it was so quick.
p.s. please leave h-god alone. He is just trying to use reasoning to figure out exactly WHY the officer would do something so terrible and disgusting.
R.I.P.
OSCAR GRANT
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January 8th, 2009 at 9:14 pm
@hgod
who cares if he thought it was his taser or not…cause there was no need to pull the taser out in the first place
secondly STOP saying he obviously was surprised in one line than saying the vid is grainy and you cant tell in another!?!?! (i dont c a surprise reaction)
watching these cops point there fingers in his face and yell at him while hes cooperating you could tell these cops thought they were GODS and one took it way to far…
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January 8th, 2009 at 10:31 pm
and am i the only one that finds it ironic that when the cameras arent rolling and the cops shoot an unarmed man the excuse is “i thought his CELL PHONE was a gun” but when the cameras are rolling it turns into “i thought my GUN was a taser” lol
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January 8th, 2009 at 10:48 pm
H-GOD, First Nigga I’m A Junior @ SyracuseU as well as a Computer Sci major, Secondly I’m Trying To Bring Awareness Here @ tha school, Thirdly I CAN BE AS FUCKING MAD AS I WANNA BE, BLACK PEOPLE AS A CULTURE KNOW THAT WASN’T NO ACCIDENT BY ANY STRETTCHH OF THE IMAGINATION, Y DOES THE COP NEED TO TASER AN UNARMED-PINNED-OUTNUMBERED MAN ON THE FLOOR???—> THERE IS NO FUCKING EXCUSE POINT BLANK!!!–> SO STOP DEFENDING IT, CUZ IF IT WAS ME WITH A LICENSED GUN, IN A SIMILIAR SITUATION THEY’LL BE EXECUTIN ME RIGHT NOW!!!—>BUT HOLD ON IT WAS AN ACCIDENT I THOUGHT MY GUN AN DARK SNICKERS BARRR!!!!
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January 8th, 2009 at 11:01 pm
H-GOD, I DONT KNOW WHERE U FROM BUT THAT “BART SITUATION” HAPPEN TO ALL OF US! THAT HAPPEN 2 MY BROTHER, MY FRIENDS, THERE FRIENDS EVERYBODY, I’M HERE IN NY AND I FEEL LIKE IT HAPPEN 2 ME!!!, 4 U 2 TRY DEFEND IT???? AND HE SHOTT HIMM IN THE BACKKKK??? WHAT THE COP THOUGHT HE WASN’T GONA DIIEEE????HE SHOTT HIM ATT CLOSEE RANGGEE????I’M IN TEARS YO WORD UP
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January 8th, 2009 at 11:13 pm
@#3-the are not hunting and killing pple of all races-they are targeting Black men!
There are no other occurrences of police shooting any other men but Black men!
This country is at war against us- I’m not sure if the Obama election made it better or worse-they fear us even more now!
This is outrageous-SERIOUSLY pple let’s not wait for these dumb,uneducated rappers to speak out-we gotta stand up! They don’t care about us-and honestly, I think they have the green light to kill us on sight. There was a man recently who got shot 20x by the police, he was in New Orleans!! What the Fck is going on?! We are being exterminated right b4 our eyes. We gotta form coalitions-if they shoot us-we shoot them. They are not here to protect us-they are here to “control” us and kill us. Look what they did to Sean Bell(RIP)-how soon we forget. Man, this is outrageous!!!
Black pple-and pple that love and respect us-let’s come together. We’ll all go to the Biggie movie and the jz concert but will we step up to save our lives and the lives of our brothers and sister??!
I hate this counntry and I can’t wait til they get what’s coming to them!
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January 9th, 2009 at 12:07 am
For the last time, I said the cop deserves to be charged with manslaughter and made an example of. Why do you guys keep missing that part? Also, I never said a Glock and taser have a grip that feels the same, I just said I think he rushed and pulled his gun instead of his taser. I’m not asking anyone to agree with me, but I will believe what I want and couldn’t give a fuck less if you don’t like it. As they same, opinions are like assholes, we all have one.
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January 9th, 2009 at 12:22 am
This brings tears to my eye’s. I went to college, got my degree, and have a good job…….but I don’t feel like that means anything, cause these people can just take your life. Police make me feel like a criminal and I’ve done everything that America told me to do, but yet I live in fear of the same people that are suppose to protect me. I’m treated like a criminal and I’ve never even had a misdemeanor. All I ask is that to all young black men, and women in the OAK think and be very careful cause these guys are itching for a reason to kill us, and let’s not give them a reason. At the end of the day we have to start with ourselves and not wait for things like this to bring us together. We have to learn to love one another or at least like one another, so that we can mobilize and take care of ourselves and communities. No one gets along all the time, but at the end of the day it’s all bullshit and you still love your brother or sister. Let’s stick together and care about each other, so we can “Fight the Power”. Divide and conquer, is what they want….let’s not give it to them. Love to his family and friends, and to anyone young man that’s upset and reading this, I LOVE YOU BROTHER, and think and be safe. They’re always going to protect their own, so we have to protect ours. This is some BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!, but let’s not allow them to take anymore of our lives.
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January 9th, 2009 at 2:07 am
H-GOD–>”OPINIONS ARE LIKE ASSHOLES WE ALL HAVE ONE” HOW AMBIGUOUS AND FUCKIN DUMB IS THAT, WE HAVE TOENAILS NIGGA U AINT SAYIN NOTHIN! THAT COP DESERVE DEATH PENALTY, FUCK MANSLAUGHTER U SHIT FOR BRAINS
SRY MISSINFO, I LUV U
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January 9th, 2009 at 2:09 am
ay yi yi…so much fighting.
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January 9th, 2009 at 2:39 am
@MISSINFO…IIGHT INFO IMA CHILL, BUT I’M PASSIONATE BOUT ISSUES LIKE THESE, ONLY IN AMERICA MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE HAVE A “WELL-IF-DIDN’T-HAPPEN-TO-ME-IT-AINT-THAT-SERIOUS” MENTALITY–>CUZ IF IT HAPPEN TO NE OF US, Y’ALL BE READY TO KILL SOME1, Y’ALL BE LEADERS OF THE LYNCH MOB CARRYIN TORCHES AND ALL…
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January 9th, 2009 at 2:48 am
OMG IM SPEECHLESS!! I CANT BELIVE THIS.. OMG!!
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January 9th, 2009 at 3:57 am
why don’t the police ever “accidentally” shoot white men…
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January 9th, 2009 at 9:36 am
@h-god
Be gone child. You defending this officer is like defending the murderers of Emit Till. And I know your political status has nothing to do with this but I also know your gun enthusiast,killer cop defending,calling himself god ass has all the markings of a Republican dick! You know you voted McCain and admitting so would damage your broken opinion even more. Thats why you said ,”sorry Quiet try again”. You knew I was trying to flush you out. Lol
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January 9th, 2009 at 2:38 pm
@Quiet Riot
Your post just shows how little you know about politics. What you just said is called “stereotyping” and is pretty immature. All white people don’t sit around and watch Friends & Seinfeld, all black people don’t eat fried chicken and watermelon, and all gun owners are not Republicans who voted for McCain.
Once again, I am not defending the cop. I have said a couple times now that the cop should be charged with manslaughter and put in jail. You will believe whatever the media puts out there, so I don’t expect you to form your own opinions on things such as this.
Kids say the funniest things sometimes.
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January 9th, 2009 at 3:15 pm
Hey Info..
Just to be clear, it wasn’t Oakland Police dept officer that shot Oscar Grant. It was the BART police officer. BART (Bay Area Rapid Transit) has their own police and BART runs all over the bay area and they have jurisdiction in all the cities that BART runs through. The incident took place in Oakland when the train stopped there and the incident took place. I don’t think Oakland PD had jurisdiction over BART areas and therefore, it was BART police’s area. They’re basically like subway train cops. My friend works for Oakland PD and they’re all upset that national media is falsely accusing their dept of this.. but it did happen in their city.
My sister works in Downtown Oakland and luckily, she left work before the riots started. It;s horrible what happened, but the RIOT WAS TOTALLY RIDICULOUS! It was a bunch of goons and thugs who wanted to incite a riot! It was a peaceful protest at first. Even the protest organizers were upset over the violent riot. The rioters started trashing small minority businesses in Downtown Oakland! Nail Salons, Korean restaurants, barbershops, etc.. Rioters just add fuel to the fire. Anyways, you can go to sfgate.com to read more about it if you’re interested.
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January 9th, 2009 at 8:09 pm
@h-god
How little I know about politics? You just referenced chicken & watermelon to prove a point. I would have respected you more if you had kept it “political” say like,all pregnant women do not support Roe vs. Wade or not all small business owners support Obamas economic stimulus package. No see your a moron whos trying to back pedal and defend the killer cop at the same time. Since this is America you can have your opinion. Its been nice debating with you child. I rest my case you have closing arguments lol! God bless the victims soul & his fam. Peace.
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January 10th, 2009 at 12:16 am
SMH ..
Watching This Video .. It Hurts Me Because I Have A Brother, I Have A Father and A Step Father, I Have A Boyfriend, I Have a bunch of male friends and family.. 0scar[victim] was clearly being cooperative .. I mean Come on .. The boy was laying flat on his stomach on the floor.. and even if there was a little restraint there were 2 other cops there to help out if oscar did decide to get out of hand . Cops now-a-days think ’cause they can hand o ut tickets and cuff people that they’re God .. HELL TO THE NO !!! … Jus cuz you have a gun and some god-damn cuffs dont make you shit .. cops have no right to be killing any ‘ol tom-dick-and harry ’cause they feel like it .. WTF ??? My prayers goes out to oscar’s family .. God will seek Justice .. But I do hope some shit happens to the fucking cop yo ! .. i hope he becomes so disgusted with himself .. that the mothafucka cant sleep at night ..
AMEN !!!
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January 10th, 2009 at 5:16 pm
as far as the officer being surprised- that’s what happens when idiot boys that talk tuff walk the walk & find out what it really is to be a killer -no sympathy for him either way
& as far the lawsuit- police unions have a defense fund that will tie up a case up to the amount that can be awarded – you do the math… then figure out how you wanna go- shot down on the pavement, train, bus, etc. or waiting on death row…
me, personally, I gotta take some w/ me
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March 11th, 2009 at 10:19 pm
why would he need to pull the trigger on anything. He was’nt resisting arrest he had his hands up and was trying to explain you need to shut the fuck up h god or fake god whateva your name is if that happend inn the uk there would be riots straight up. that transit cop knew what he was doing and then shit himself fuck that punk life for a life death for a death murder for a murder. that was un called for R.I.P oscar all my love to his fam n friends this should never happen again!!!!!!!!!!
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