Mon 4 Feb 2008
Q-Tip endorses Barack Obama, and my thoughts on this ongoing election process
Posted by Miss Info under life beyond rap , quotes[39] Comments
Q-tip participated in a pre-Super Tuesday Obama support rally in Connecticut today. He also sent me his endorsement statement.
Here’s an excerpt….
“…I have been blessed with the opportunity to be apart of a great American culture with the Hip Hop movement. The music that I created was inspired by fresh, new ideas in expression. I have always strived to let that sentiment live in my music. Hip Hop continues to be a mighty voice for the disenfranchised, the disillusioned and poor. Senator Obama offers the best opportunities for all of us who fit these descriptions. A large amount of us still remain unregistered to vote, and Barack Obama not only represents unification of our communities by his presidential platform but the ignition of the light that remains untouched by any political figure….”
Will.I.Am also proclaimed his support for Obama, by creatively re-fashioning speech audio into a celebrity-packed sing-a-long featuring Common, Scarlett Johansen, John Legend and others.
But I am not posting these because I’m trying to tell you to vote for Obama. If there were any hip-hop-related endorsements of interest for any other candidates (like Lupe’s pro-Hillary Clinton vs Rhymefest pro-Obama blogathon) I’d post them as well. I am not publicly endorsing any candidate yet (and possibly never).
I am a bit worried…..that folks are making their political decision based on the endorsement or affiliation of an artist/celebrity that they like, without finding out enough about a candidate to make that same choice alone. In many cases, like Q-tip and Will.i.am and Oprah and Rhymefest, I can see that the celebrity endorser has taken the time and the effort to make an informed decision. But in other cases, I feel like some candidates are appealing to the fandom that is embedded in almost all American consumerism these days. (I want Angelina Jolie’s favorite tampons, please!) It reminds me of the last election, when there were all these voter registration drives, and Diddy sold those shirts, and Russell had that rally, and kids ditched school to see Jay-Z there. It was absurd.
It’s a hassle but just figure out who you like based on what they think/do/say about the issues that mean the most to you. Not based on what means most to your ipod. Not to your friends at work. Not to your facebook group. To the inside you.
Just my personal opinion.
Here’s the rest of Q-tip’s statement:
Obama for President
We are in the midst of a very important time in our history. The world is fixated on an American election for many obvious reasons.
Abroad, young Americans are dying in a poorly managed and ill-conceived war. America’s prestige as a moral leader has suffered as a result of a divisive approach to foreign policy. Unfair trade practices have resulted in the loss of countless jobs and toxic products for children have reached our shores.
Untold millions are unable to pay their mortgages and afford the cost of gas. Global warming and its effects are spreading at an unchecked pace, and special interests have frozen the nation©ˆs governance into inaction. Given this disturbing climate at home and abroad, it is imperative that we break out of old habits and politics as usual. It is time we endorse real change. This is why I endorse Senator Barack Obama for President.
I have been blessed with the opportunity to be apart of a great American culture with the Hip Hop movement. The music that I created was inspired by fresh, new ideas in expression. I have always strived to let that sentiment live in my music. Hip Hop continues to be a mighty voice for the disenfranchised, the disillusioned and poor. Senator Obama offers the best opportunities for all of us who fit these descriptions. A large amount of us still remain unregistered to vote, and Barack Obama not only represents unification of our communities by his presidential platform but the ignition of the light that remains untouched by any political figure.
Hip Hop culture was the product of the impoverished who found strength and solace in this music phenomenon. It is a transformational art form born of neighborhoods where crime and drugs were on the rise and self-esteem was sinking. The education system was failing, and the odds were against us. But as a people, we persevered. I know about having true substance, new ideas and a desire for fundamental change like Senator Obama. This is not an emotional decision, although I am moved by Obama’s American story. I am endorsing Barack Obama because I feel that we can benefit greatly from a leader that offers sound judgment and experience rooted in the lives of real people. We can change our economy. We can change our health care. We can change the course of the Iraq war. We can change our neighbor’s minds about nuclear weapons. The only way we can have this renaissance is with the Senator from Illinois as President of the United States. We are on the brink of moving past our stigmas and preconceived thoughts to make a substantive decision for change… The change is Barack Obama. – Q Tip
To read his entire statement, click more….
February 4th, 2008 at 9:42 pm
I’m not sure who I’m voting for yet but let’s be honest for a second. the reason why most “rappers”, entertainers, etc. are voting for Barack Obama is because he’s black. I’m black as well but come on with the bullshit already. If this is the reason why their voting for him, then I’d rather not vote at all based on some bullshit like that. How ironic is it that as soon as we have a black presidential candidate, rappers all of a sudden feel the need to catch the political holy ghost and have a blogathon about the upcoming election. While I commend their efforts to speak their mind about a very important topic such as this, it seems kinda weird that entertainers are all of a sudden fascinated with political figures. I’m a huge fan of q-tip and have the up most respect for him as well and still have an autographed copy of the low-end theory but it’s just odd to me.
I dare anybody to list at least 10 things Obama has done to help us as a people without searching it on the internet at all and really see where their minds are at. I’m not hating on Obama or anything but I don’t see what all the hype about him is all about. He’s just another politician with a suit on
I ain’t hatin’, just debatin’
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February 4th, 2008 at 11:01 pm
If you dont vote obama tomorrow you’re a [edited out for racial slurs]. He’s the best candidate for the job and will match up to McCain a lot better than Clinton.
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February 4th, 2008 at 11:15 pm
nah you see “obama” says he might higher taxes.while hillary says shes gonna lower taxes in poor naborhoods and higher them in rich naborhoods the way it soposed to be thats what bill did.you se bush made them high for poor people and made them lower in rich,now how mess up is that.wew are better off with hillary.shes rich but she cares about poor people or people that make less than 70 thousaud a year. obama is rich too and he has a lot of rich freinds and he is not gonna lower taxes for people that make under 70 thousand a year/ so its your choice vote for some one cause he has the same colar as you or vote for some one who cares about people that doesnt have as mych money.yea you se a lot of black super stars endorseing obama cause he wont higher taxes for the rich.you get what im saying.even if i was rich id vote for hill cause highing taxes for poor people and makeing them low for rich people is not rite at all. its almost something hitler would do.
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February 4th, 2008 at 11:24 pm
man I cannot stand lupe. Everytime he tries to speak on something intelligently, it reeks of not only arrogance (old news) but very stubborn ignorance. He is unable to be humble in any sense.
He also seems as bipolar as britney.
On one hand he wants to be seen as a revolutionary intellectual a la mos def…but I’ve never seen him put his money where his mouth is. (i’d like to see him on bill maher) as far as I know he never tries to make a situation better. he probably has some tax shelter charity which I’m sure does some sort of good for someone. He talks a lot of game, which may sell records to 14yo backpackers these days, but the “grownups” can see right through him in his $300 MHI shirt or whatever is the hypebeast flavor of the month. ‘I was raised around judges and politicians’…
Then rhymefest says well thats cool but i was raised in bad situations and hope means something to me. and then he says oh yeah, me too, gangs, guns all of that…I’m from that too, just listen to my first records “i was strapped up, jewelry etc”(from kayslay phone interview)…but now he makes sarcastic records about stereotypical hip hop negativities…when he was that guy before. Which is fine, everyone can get caught up and make mistakes, but instead of being apologetic and humble in changing his ways, he calls on it as a way to try to garner himself some street cred rather than denouncing it.
he pulled the same shit on the q-tip point and countless other things…I forget where I read it, but someone summed lupe up as a bunch of cynical complaining that spirals into abstract nothingness…and I agree, he has such a sense of entitlement it’s amazing…This is just another long string in lupe making himself look dumb…
He is making your point of backing candidates and saying things based on popular influence, except he is that kid that will do the opposite of what the populace is screaming just because he’s so fucking stubborn. He most likely hasn’t done any research or anything to say that he supports hillary or any of her policies, he just saying it because it seems its popular to back barack and he’s so shocking and individualistic (yeah, “but i don’t even vote, cause I hate the system”) that’s the most stupid fucking logic, I supposed he doesn’t like the music industry and downloaders and no promotion etc, but I bet he plays the game and tries to effect change…or at least get paid, right?
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February 5th, 2008 at 12:09 am
check out http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com
Enlightening and entertaining.
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February 5th, 2008 at 12:56 am
i like your comment about the reasons folk can vote
and q tip has been clearly thinking about this deeply and come to a decision he feels is for the best so let it be
so i think in the USA you MUST vote for Barack Obama and fight for power
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February 5th, 2008 at 1:12 am
I’d vote for Ron Paul if he was’t a racist. The fact is when it comes to economy, nation wide – not my neghboorhood or my city, he the only one who has it 100% right. But I don’t trust him in the long run. Obama get’s my vote. I’ve been telling everyone I know “I’m not saying vote or die, I’m saying vote or don’t complain.”
On the midst of a recession, constantly declinging dollar, and forign control of American assets, we need change – Now!
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February 5th, 2008 at 1:27 am
Miss Info…PREACH!
KB, I agree with you whole heartedly and Rah I agree with you. And Bonanz Lupe does have a little Brit in his vains. Dude no disrespect to you, but it’s that kind of attitude that got George W. Bush elected. Allegiance to ones race is beautiful, but is shouldn’t have anything to do with the ballot box. A bunch of working class people voted for Dubya because they thought that as a fellow Christian he would support their interests. He has not, and I’m not talking about banning gay marriage and ending abortion. I’m talking about fighting just wars, if there is such a thing. I’m talking about making life easier for the middle class(i.e. not allowing the price of gas to skyrocket, not allowing a staggering amount of new home buyers to invest on a shaky credit foundation. It appeals to our senses as human beings to vote with people who have something in common with us. Unfortunately, we as Americans tend to look at race as the lowest common denominator, it’s sick and flawed. Barack Obama’s brown skin and charisma do not mean that he’s going to do anymore to advance the situation of black people in America. He didn’t grow up like most of them. He has an agenda just as Hillary Clinton has one. How clever and in line with old politics is it for him to lump the Clinton’s and the Bush’s together in his campaign slogans. The Clinton’s and the Bush’s are not the same people. Bill Clinton has a wonderful legacy, minus Kosovo. George Bush doesn’t have one, I’m looking at a legacy as something positive. What we are doing as the hip hop community is dangerous, we really need to examine the issues and think about who can really help us get out of this war, make life more comfortable for the shrinking middle class, protect our civil liberties and work on this whole ozone layer thing. The answer lies far deeper than skin color, celebrity endorsements and tag lines, that will be the change.
http://www.freshfeature.com
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February 5th, 2008 at 1:32 am
Miss Info,
I apologize for breaking the flow, but Pimp C died of preexisting condition and an overdose of cough medicine. This is quite germane to last weeks little Wayne convo.
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February 5th, 2008 at 2:25 am
i hate when people say that ignorence. You only voting for Obama cause hes black and you black or Obama isn’t black enough. Damn shame.
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February 5th, 2008 at 3:01 am
Its carnival in trinidad isnt anyone excited
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February 5th, 2008 at 5:25 am
It’s really as if someone is saying “we need a rapper to accredit everything because that’s the only way they’ll understanding everything”. It’s embarrassing to see that urban outlet stations focus specifically on Barack Obama, while not paying attention to everyone else. That singles out the female voters, particularly any who are women of color. Of course it’s not guaranteed they’d vote for Obama. I think the race/gender care isn’t being examined enough from a race and gender perspective. I wonder who women voters are more comfortable voting for. But anyway, who is Lupe and Rhymefest to put their two cents in? Are they scholars of some subject?
It’s one thing to give your opinion; it’s totally another to say I’m endorsing such and such, as if that’s going to sway the public opinion in one direction. Hip-Hop and Politics don’t mix.
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February 5th, 2008 at 6:22 am
“I dare anybody to list at least 10 things Obama has done to help us as a people without searching it on the internet at all..”
10 things? Come on man, I can’t think of ten things *my parents* did for me without searching on the internet.. that’s not a fair measure of anything, lol.
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February 5th, 2008 at 6:26 am
Tomorrow is gonna be the best day I’ve had in a long time. I already called out sick from work. First I have a 8o’clock class then I’m gonna go to the giants parade then I’m gonna go vote then I have about 10 friends coming over to the crib and we’re gonna watch the primaries. I can’t wait. Obama for 08 “yes we can” yes we can” yes we can” “yes we can”.
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February 5th, 2008 at 6:38 am
Miss Info, thank you so much for finally sharing some of your insight on this election. I’ve been following your blog pretty much daily for a long time and this is the first time I’ve felt compelled to post a comment. I deeply respect your opinions on this issue, but I feel like you may be overly concerned that people are basing their votes on these celebrity endorsements.
I’ve been working on Obama’s campaign for about 10 months now. I’ve met hundreds of people and heard their stories and reasons for supporting Barack. Not one of them had anything to do with an endorsement.
Endorsements aren’t a way for celebrities to tell people who to vote for. They are a way to bring attention to a candidate and allow people to hear their message who might not have heard it otherwise. When people hear one of their favorite actors or actresses or in this case, emcees is speaking out in support of Senator Obama, it makes them listen. It makes them give Obama a closer look. It is Obama who ultimately convinces them to vote for him or not. Again, I respect and understand your concerns, but I don’t agree with them.
While we’re on the subject of emcee endorsements, I’ve assembled a list of a dozen hip hop artists who’ve spoken out for Barack. You can find links to the original sources for all of these quotes on my myspace page.
“I think people just wanna take their excitement and turn it into something tangible and just something that can actually contribute into getting this guy into office.” – Jin
“I’m in full support of that brother. He has a great mind and I think he’s for the people, man. I think we need that. We need someone that’s thinking forward and thinking peaceful and thinking about people of all walks of life — not just the rich.” – Common
“His youth, his being black, the way that he speaks, the way that he lays out his point of view. It’s someone who looks more like you. I don’t mean black, but I mean the young thing. And his name is Barack Obama. This country is becoming more and more multicultural.” – Talib Kweli
“It was Obama’s speech in New Hampshire. I was watching it. It inspired me. It made me reflect on myself and the freedoms I had, going to school where I went to school, and the people who came before Obama like Martin Luther King and presidents like Abraham Lincoln.” – Will.i.am
“We are on the brink of moving past our stigmas and preconceived thoughts to make a substantive decision for change. The change is Barack Obama.” – Q-Tip
“I think he’s what the future of America is going to be. Barack represents what I feel is the future of the optimum survival of America.” – Will Smith
“He’s a great speaker. He knows how to motivate a crowd. I believe we need somebody strong like that, especially coming off of somebody who’s not so great of a speaker. You’ve got to be able to motivate your country. I believe he can do that.” – Nick Cannon
“Obama won the Iowa caucus by inspiring more young people and women to vote than any previous presidential candidate. How could it not be impressive to see the new Bobby Kennedy of our day in the White House?” – Rhymefest
”We talked about empowering the youth. [Meeting Obama] was like meeting with a relative.” – Ludacris
“I hope [America] is smart enough to pick the best person. Right now, it looks like nobody is better than Obama.” – Ice Cube
“Join the movement to make America our’s and create a brighter future for America’s youth. Barack needs you. I need you. We need you. I, Usher, am voting for Barack Obama.” – Usher
“I’m proud to support Senator Obama for President. I respect his integrity and trust his judgment. I agree with his stances on the major issues, particularly his principled stand to oppose the administration’s ill-advised decision to invade Iraq, even when this was not a popular position. I believe he will be the man to restore our pride in this country. He is the kind of leader we need in these trying times.” – John Legend
Never before have so many hip hop artists felt the need to get involved in an election this early in the process. Do not discount them by assuming they’re only supporting him because he’s a (relatively) young African American. It’s much deeper than that. Senator Obama went to the south side of Chicago to work as a community organizer after he graduated college. He’s worked directly with issues of poverty and gang violence, issues that greatly affect the hip hop community. He went on to become a civil rights lawyer, again, another issue that greatly affects the hip hop community.
Not only this, but Barack actually listens to hip hop and has even shared some of his insight on it.
“Honestly, I love the art of Hip-Hop. I don’t always love the message of Hip-Hop. Hip-Hop is not just a mirror of what is. It should be a mirror of what can be. A lot of people say, ‘I want to be real. I want to be down. Then we’re just trapped in ‘What is.’
Imagine something different. Imagine communities that aren’t torn up by violence. Imagine that we’re respecting our women. Imagine communities where knowledge and reading and academic excellence are valued, communities where fathers are doing right by their kids. Art can’t just be a rearview mirror. It should have a headlight on there pointing to where we need to go.” – Barack Obama
Imagine all that. Imagine having a president of the United States who doesn’t demonize hip hop, but listens to it, understands it, and respects it. We have the opportunity to make our imaginations a reality with Barack Obama.
Vote for hope. Vote for change. Vote for Barack Obama.
http://www.youtube.com/HipHopForObama
http://www.myspace.com/HipHopForObama
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February 5th, 2008 at 7:09 am
@hip hop for obama….
I definitely can appreciate the necessity of getting people to look in one’s direction in order to get the chance to tell them something they may like to hear…
But there are a couple things that I worry about.
In the same way that certain celebrities who want to stand for something, need to be very careful and conscientious when choosing who to endorse….I think its also very important for candidates to be equally choosy before allowing celebrities to jump on their bandwagon.
Nothing about anything in Usher Raymond’s career or image speaks to political intelligence, public service, or even current affairs awareness. And that’s not taking anything away from his talent or his contribution to popculture. It’s just the equivalent of wearing a shiny suit.
People will look at you when you wear one, but who will remember what you said while wearing it?
I’m just using Usher as an example.
And maybe I’m asking too much for people to just listen to a candidate because its incredibly important for them to make an informed decision.
The other thing that confuses me is that in many cases, some of these celebrities are publicly endorsing candidates that in reality don’t even represent their best interests or tax brackets. I bet some of these stars are secret republicans, lol.
Of course there are stars that I respect and identify with, but having seen some of the motivations behind many celebrity endorsements, I think that we can’t take all of the work out of the democratic process.
(Unfortunately, historically, I think the “work” part of the process has benefited the rich establishment, and discouraged the working class.)
but anyways, this debate is far less important than the one between the candidates themselves.
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February 5th, 2008 at 7:18 am
one other thing…..what kind of music a candidate listens says absolutely nothing to me about their capability to run the country.
In general, I dont need my leader to be like me, I need them to be better than me.
(and having said that, I don’t think would be too hard, lol…..especially since Giuliani dropped out)
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February 5th, 2008 at 8:30 am
Oh don’t get it twisted. I’m not saying I support Obama because he listens to hip hop. As I said, I’ve been working on his campaign for about 10 months and that quote I posted was from a BET special just last month. I didn’t say all that stuff to convince people to vote for Obama because he listens to hip hop. I said it because it helps explain why so many people from the hip hop community are drawn to him.
Yes, I love the fact that Obama listens to hip hop, but that isn’t why I support him. I support him for his ability to inspire, his ability to unite, his ability to lead, his ability to tell us what we need to hear instead of what we want to hear, his ability to restore our nation’s standing in the world’s eyes, and most importantly, his ability to completely transform the politics of petty partisanship and fear in to the politics of finding common ground and hope. I believe if Barack Obama is our next president, we will truly “turn the page” and begin a new era in our nation’s history. I think most Obama supporters feel the same way, including Usher.
No, Usher’s career and image doesn’t speak to political intelligence, public service, or current affairs awareness. I don’t think it has to in order for him to publicly support the candidate he feels passionately about. If he wanted to campaign for Barack as I did, canvassing, making phone calls, attending rallies, etc, should he have to think twice about it because doing so translates in to an endorsement? Celebrities are in an awkward position where any support they show for a candidate instantly translates in to an endorsement. With that in mind, they might as well treat it like what it will inevitably be perceived to be and just endorse them.
It’s either that, contribute anonymously, or worse yet, stay out of the process altogether. If you genuinely support a candidate, you shouldn’t have to hide it, even if you are famous. I don’t think it’s fair to them to make them sit on the sidelines or be criticized for “telling people who to vote for.” There’s got to be something in between.
Now I’m no insider like yourself, so I’m not sure what some of these celebrities’ true motivations are. I could be a cynic and assume all those actors and actresses in Will.i.am’s video were only in it because the writer’s strike has them bored out of their minds and they were desperately seeking a way to get their face out there so they can remain “relevant.” I could be an optimist and assume they truly believe in what they’re telling us they believe in. I prefer the latter. I prefer to give them the benefit of the doubt and trust that they really do want to help make change happen in our country and the world.
It has nothing to do with their tax bracket. If celebrities all voted based on their tax bracket, they would clearly support the Republicans who (save for Ron Paul) are most definitely looking out for those who make buku bucks. Again, the optimist in me tells me they aren’t only out for themselves and they actually care about those of us who aren’t so fortunate or blessed financially.
It’s been said time and time again that Obama helps us embrace “the better angels of our nature.” I can tell you first hand that’s absolutely true. Being involved in his campaign has made me more optimistic and hopeful about our country. I’d much rather be optimistic than cynical and I’d much rather be hopeful than fearful. I think it’d be great if more people were.
I’ve gotta say thanks for responding to my comment. It’s a pleasure to have an intellectual convo about this with my favorite hip hop journalist.
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February 5th, 2008 at 12:50 pm
WORD. It’s interesting, I’m not an Obama basher or anything, I think what he’s doing to motivate the youth is WONDERFUL. It’s just interesting to see Talib Kweli mention the fact that he is Black, which should have nothing to do with the ballot box. It’s also a point of interest that Nick Canon and Will.I.AM called him inspirational. I agree whole heartedly, I just don’t know what the fuck that has do with getting us out of Iraq and making sure that more people have healthcare. I would never compare Barack Obama to Hitler, usually, but Hitler was definitely a motivational speaker. It’s a little disturbing to see someone who is associated with his movement falling back on these statements. I know that celebrity endorsements and accolades get people to notice, even though I think that a Black guy with a funny name running to be leader of the free world doesn’t need Usher to get noticed. I get it, I get it, but this is not Hollywood. Let’s get people motivated and show them why, not one of those celebrities even mentioned one specific issue. Let’s tell people to get behind someone who’s so “inspirational” because he’s ready to make taxes equitable, because he’s got a great voting record. Not just because he’s charismatic. Because if that’s all you need. Give me $100 million dollars, a bull horn, and just an endorsement by Jay-z and P.Diddy and I’m the next president of the United States.
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February 5th, 2008 at 1:38 pm
Hey Minya! Trackback: [...]Miss Info blogs that she is a bit worried….that folks are making their political decision based on the endorsement or affiliation of an artist/celebrity that they like, without finding out enough about a candidate to make that same choice alone[...]
http://dave-lucas.blogspot.com/2008/02/super-tuesday.html
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February 5th, 2008 at 2:08 pm
@ #1 ray – no disrespect but you must not pay too much attention to the political scene…
Obama crashed onto the scene a few years back with a stirring speech reminiscent of a more refined & polished MLK at the Democratic National Congress. Since that time the momentum has been building primarily because unlike Chisholm, Jackson or Sharpton his platform is of signifigance to more than just black folk.
Furthermore this election has historical implications unlike any previous election and lastly because of the present socio-economic international & domestic issues facing our nation, it has piqued the interest of many of us who would normally not pay close attention… so I said all that to say that this election is a MAJOR deal and Barack is different than many of the black leaders we have had! Check out his biography, its a good read…..
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February 5th, 2008 at 2:38 pm
My vote is for Barack Obama. He is a true symbol of integrity, and his passion is unmeasurable. His color makes no difference to me, although I am proud that he is black, it saddens me that he does not have more “black” support. Which I shoudn’t be surprised because we are the only race that never sticks together anyways. If he was asian or hispanic, the whole asian or hispanic race would vote for him. I like Hilary too, but I don’t buy the 35 years of experience stuff. What experience? Hillary has NEVER made an executive decision in her life. And all you people with this false hope that electing her is like having Bill back in the white house, give me a break. The last 24 yrs of Bush’s and Clinton’s in the white house is why we’re in the state we are currently in. And while I do believe Bill was a good president, its a different time, the country is divided, and we are hated by all. I don’t forsee Hillary (really Bill)being able to wrangle us out of the mess we are currently in. We need a change y’all, and Barack gives me the hope of change. I would also like to add, I was turned off by HIllary at the Iowa debate, and when she cried when she thought she had also lost New Hampshire. A president that cries? That is not the symbol of strength. You must remember, she is a woman first. And what do we do? We let our emotions and feelings make our decisions. Men do not. And as far as foreign affairs are concerned, the Arab countries do not respect their own women, so why would they respect Hillary. Again, my vote is for Barack Obama.
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February 5th, 2008 at 2:51 pm
@miss info – I love your involvement in your blog, its refreshing…
in your above comments re: celebs endorsing against their tax brackets and/or $$… IMO I think they see in Obama a chance/hope that supersedes them making $; in reality this country is at a crossroad that unless the proper actions are taken it won’t matter how many dollars you will have because they will be worthless and there won’t be much left of the ole’ USA…furthermore there is never a candidate whose platform is 100% inline with all of beliefs.
culturally we chide celebs for having no substance and then we judge them for speaking out, where is the balance!
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February 5th, 2008 at 3:53 pm
@hip hop for obama….
lol, I appreciate the frank conversation too! thank you for posting!
back to usher real quick….i think you’re right, celebs are in a tough position but, I meant that its the candidate themselves who need to be more selective about who they allow up on a platform with them. The more celebs are up there the more I am distracted from your actual platform.
When Usher and Kerry Washington are up on a stage with you, why is the crowd cheering? Because they think Usher is hot? Kerry was great in Ray?
Of course they should be involved, but they can campaign on their own if they so feel. Endorsements by The NY Times, or Carolyn Kennedy hold more political weight to me.
Overall, I don’t just want to be inspired, I need to be reassured. I want more than motivational speeches which are being written by a 26 year old…
PS: I’m not saying that Obama doesn’t have the right platform/plans for my vote. I do not want to share my vote. I’m just criticizing the campaign process which all these candidates are wrapped up in.
Its gross to me, like one big album promotion.
In a perfect world, the presidential election process would be regulated. Where maybe each party would have the same amount of funds to promote their candidates. Then they would get free but specific commercial time on radio, tv, internet. And obviously lots of debate time.
But I’m uncomfortable with the way that money has the largest electoral college vote in this election, lol.
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February 5th, 2008 at 3:54 pm
ok, no more for me, I gotta get some work done so I can go vote later, lol…..
PS: yay Giants!
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February 5th, 2008 at 5:29 pm
i think you raise a good point and it’s true that you SHOULD vote based on which candidate you think is best because of their stance on issues that are important to you. however with the low voter turn out rate and the huge amount of youths who have no interest in politics, it should be noted that voting for the wrong reason is better then voting at all. people, especially young adults and youths, need to vote. period. that is the only way any change can be made. this is true even if you think the all the options suck and the whole system is flawed. so maybe the fact that you’re unhappy with the current administration and really liked midnight marauders is enough reason to vote for obama. it’s a much better alternative then staying home on election day.
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February 5th, 2008 at 5:31 pm
I don’t agree…the same person who happens to vote for the right person by accident can be easily led to the wrong action blindly too. Its a very dangerous herd mentality to encourage.
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February 5th, 2008 at 5:40 pm
Im voting for ERIC B.
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February 5th, 2008 at 5:41 pm
ALTHOUGH WE MAY THINK THAT WE HAVE THE BEST CANDIDATE IN MIND NOW, PLEASE REALIZE THAT WE USUALLY BASE OUR DECISIONS ON OUR BIAS TOWARDS SOMETHING OR SOMEONE.
I’M NOT TELLING YOU WHETHER TO VOTE DEMOCRAT OR REPUBLICAN, BLACK OR WHITE, OLD OR YOUNG, MALE OR FEMALE, OR CHRISTIAN OR MUSLIM. I’M TELLING YOU TO VOTE WITH YOUR BRIANS AND NOT WITH YOUR HEART.
SO START BY USING YOUR BRAINS AND CHECK OUT THESE 1 ON 1S HERE:
http://clmnews.com/ OR http://clmnews.com/Politics.html I FOUND THIS SITE TO BE VERY HELPFUL!!!!
REMEMBER DON’T COMPLAINT IF YOU DON’T VOTE!!!
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February 5th, 2008 at 6:49 pm
To the first comment i think you are trying to dance around the fact that Obama is black, which is what the media has been telling you to do so i don’t blame you. Of course the hip-hop/rap community is interested in this election, as all (black) people should be. Obviously policies are important (even the most important thing) but it’s HUGE that we have a black man vying for the democratic nomination and that he has a viable shot at it. That alone, along with the fact that he has managed to attract both black and white voters, male and female, is enough to elevate him beyond any other candidate. Fact is, America is America (capitalism with all its benefits and flaws) and there are certain policies that will remain the same regardless of who is president – what’s important is to find a leader who can find common ground for the largest group of people and that’s what Obama can do.
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February 5th, 2008 at 6:57 pm
First of all, life may not be a game but the selection process by which are president is picked is. I am voting for Obama because he is Black Plain and simple. Its time for my race to be in positions of power. I dont have time to worry about wheather or night he is qualified for the position because I know he can do the job. Bush came in and did whatever he wanted. Blacks think the Clintons are our savior, Please. I have nothing but respect for the position of president of the United States. However the more I grow Im learng Knowledge and Power are not always equal.
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February 5th, 2008 at 7:07 pm
And as for Hillary, I am personally disgusted at her and Bill’s blatant exploitation of the black vote – I believe one of their supporter’s, andrew young, said that Bill was blacker than Obama for having banged more black chicks. There are so many things wrong with that. Some interesting articles that talk more about this:
http://www.slate.com/id/2182938/
http://www.slate.com/id/2182745/
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February 5th, 2008 at 7:27 pm
“ISAIDIT” is a spammer, has been on every hip-hop forum posting the same thing over and over again, probably John McCain himself. GTFOH!!!!!!
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February 5th, 2008 at 7:39 pm
and another after thought – yes, the politician’s knowledge/associations with popular culture should not be the definitive factor in choosing a president BUT come on guys, I am personally tired of old stodgy men who have NO CLUE about what is going on in the cultural lives of their voters. TV, music, blogs (such as this one, ahem) are a big indicator of what is going on in people’s lives and what is important to us so I hope the next president listens to Jay-Z and knows what show his kids are watching cause those are the things that a lot of us define our lives by.
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February 5th, 2008 at 10:52 pm
the difference between obama & hillbilly (clinton) is the basic contrast between taking control of your own destiny versus hanging around on the stoop waiting for greasy-faced bill to jog by and hand-out a job. the racial issue is moot, hillbilly has heavily pandered to african americans (office on 125th street) and much more so than obama. the issue is more about leading oneself (dynamic leadership) rather than staying on the plantation with good massa hillbilly (clinton)……many young people want to partner with a leader who will be responsive to who they are and what they think, rather than the watching the old useless politics with gravy train riders like raggedy rangel and sharpton tapdance to bill’s saxaphone. the clintons haven’t done anything for black people accept use them as a stepping stone to hop into the white house. study your lessons!!!!! NYG
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February 5th, 2008 at 11:36 pm
In response to Torika I am not a spammer! I am actually a volunteer for the Democratic party trying to get the young crowds to vote with brains and not a bias. I chose to hit the forums because that’s where most young African Americans get the sources – not by watching news or reading political journals. And you’ve proven my point. The only CNN you know of is Capone-N-Noreaga. With that said, if you don’t like it keep it moving. I’m not posting for simple-minded people like you who don’t even know what a delegte is. Pay attention to the campaign trail – not mines!!!!
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February 6th, 2008 at 12:03 am
@ khymen – thx for bringing up the andre young comment… the really sad part is the nearly all black audience found this statement to be hysterically funny… I personally didn’t see the humor.
I listen to lots of Rush Limbaugh, Hannity and other Republican conservatives and most of them couldn’t believe we (blacks) didn’t go crazy about those remarks. Where was Sharpton & Jesse with this… IMO that was much worse than Imus….
I usually say ‘to each his own’ but with this election I say all blacks should vote for Obama. Many of our fellow americans who are white have already showed they are down, its our own uncle tom (house negroes) who trippin…. go figure (Bob johnson, Fiddy, Lupe, Magic etc) – sellouts
ps. cube saud it best ‘as soon as yall get some dough you wanna put a white ‘b’ on your l-bow’
pss. miss info – in an ideal world er thing would be balanced but that will never happen so we gotta make this one ‘do what it do, baby’
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February 6th, 2008 at 9:19 pm
I’m personally tired of people making assumptions based on race. I’m not voting for Obama just because he is black. Sharpton & Jackson are black…I would never cast a vote for either of them. So I think it’s wrong to believe that these rappers are endosing them just because they are black.
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February 8th, 2008 at 9:25 pm
DAMMN BUT WHO ISNT GONNA FUCK WIT OBAMA IF NOT HIM THEN HILLARY.. ONE OR DA OTHER I WOULD BE HAPPY JUST HOPE IF HILLARY DOES WIN SHE DOESNT TRY TO BOMB ANOTHER COUNTRY ON HER METAPAUSE OR HER PERIOD……..
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