Wed 21 Jan 2009
“Pushing Buttons”: Saigon responds to Joe responds to Sai responds to….
Posted by Miss Info under beef , hmmm....? , new music[66] Comments
Remember when ER was really good? Then it was still pretty good but the folks who loved the mushy parts had moved onto Grey’s and the folks who loved the drama were all watching HBO?
Well….here’s the latest episode in the Saigon vs. Joe Budden/Joe Budden vs. Saigon battle.
(Lowkey sent the link but the link says 2DopeBoyz to thank you to both!)
And as a matter of convenience for you guys, here’s all the other eps in one place….I think a flow chart would be helpful too, but I don’t know how to make those. (Complex, can you?)
The full Saigon vs Joe Budden tracklisting after the jump
In backwards chronological order:
Joe Budden “Pain in His Life”
Saigon “Under Achiever”
Joe Budden “Letter to Saigon”
January 21st, 2009 at 4:37 pm
Warner Music releases statement regarding Saigon: “Our decision to work with such an artist with limited appeal is the definition of EPIC FAIL”
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January 21st, 2009 at 4:38 pm
Sai got em this round…….
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January 21st, 2009 at 4:39 pm
ok, i’mma keep it funky…this attempt by saigon was better…however, it still lacked lyrical content…yeah he got after it a lil’ bit more this time around but he was too emotional on this track…the best thing about this was that using the pump it up beat was clever to say the least…still that minor triumph was almost trumped by using the wu-tang beat to start and not ABSOLUTELY KILLING it…he did the beat a disservice…all in all…play this again and play joey’s “pain in his life”…and the proclaimed ‘winner’ is obvious…JUMPOFF reigns supreme…sorry Sai but your chance at taking this down is Gon…all pun intended!
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January 21st, 2009 at 4:40 pm
Sai got em this round,….etherrrr
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January 21st, 2009 at 4:48 pm
I can’t believe im saying this by Sai got this round. And this song is actually the best out of all of them. But I think Joe needs to feel threaten in order to come with the real so expect an equal or better response. Sai has now raised the stakes. Let’s keep it on Wax fellas!
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January 21st, 2009 at 4:49 pm
what’s so hard to understand?
Joe went in first
Sai second
then Joe
now Sai
see the pattern? ; ) … guess what’s next?
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January 21st, 2009 at 4:52 pm
First he steals the Wu’s cadence, then he steals Joe’s cadence, and finally in a reply battle rap track, you admit that your opponent is good at the same battle you attempted to defeat him in.
Something is horribly wrong with this…
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January 21st, 2009 at 4:52 pm
I still say Joe handed him the 2nd round K.O but that J shit Sai spit at the end was pretty ill.
Ima go roll up some L’z for tonight and get ready for LOST.
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January 21st, 2009 at 4:58 pm
with all these diss records pretty soon we’ll have yet another mixtape from these guys….the irony
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January 21st, 2009 at 5:00 pm
Sai brought the heat! Joey is still ahead, but Sai is a close 2nd!
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January 21st, 2009 at 5:00 pm
Yo lol Yo lol Buddens touched a serious nerve in this dude.. Damn he was emotional from start to finish…
Seriously he the new super thug!! This nigga wack! I thought he was gone step his hip hop game up and come straight NAW that was too hard hahaha
He pulled a bad Papoose impersonation with the letter “J” AND THEN at the end when he knew it was whack got mad and threated to hunt buddens down hahahaha
DAMN THIS IS TRASH!!
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January 21st, 2009 at 5:06 pm
SO INFO WHATS THE SCORE???
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January 21st, 2009 at 5:07 pm
DING! DING! DING!
Round 4!!!
WHOA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BATTLE OF THE BOTTOM FEEDERS !!!
IT APPEARS SAIGON KNOWS HOW TO DROP PUNCHLINES (heavy)
ANSWER ME THIS WILL YOU ACTUALLY BUY HIS ALBUM?
Aw fuck it I’m downloading both their joints on Limewire who am I fooling lol
good shit though
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January 21st, 2009 at 5:13 pm
big is the Definition of a hater
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January 21st, 2009 at 5:15 pm
Personally I think Joe B. won that round…. Saigon just seemed emo to me..
I’m very curious to know what info thoughts are…
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January 21st, 2009 at 5:19 pm
….smh.Nada against Saigon but leave this beat alone.
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January 21st, 2009 at 5:26 pm
saigon ain’t dead !
i think joe will come on another diss track
again so just i hope a third sai ish to kill
…
FINISH EM !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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January 21st, 2009 at 5:33 pm
ugh ok I’ll play he did in 4 minutes and some change what Joe did in 7 minutes. Sometimes Joe plays himself and assumes he’s the smartest MC in the room because of his vocabulary. I can honestly see why Joe doesn’t have a deal He really thinks too much of himself and In order to do business being humble is a necessary in order to start. Saigon is a complainer and makes excuses, and I think thats why he’s stuck.
They both look foolish, because instead of making music they get stuck behind their glaring weaknesses.
Oh, and please stop using the word ether when you mention either one one of these guys. Your really disrespecting and trampling all over the phrase ether. It sound silly but I have grown to like the word and when you incorrectly it just seems silly thats all.
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January 21st, 2009 at 5:36 pm
I couldn’t even listen the whole way through. Ish is wack.
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January 21st, 2009 at 5:40 pm
Biggga aka Harlod Ledermen scores the battle 2 to 1 Budden. Budden is the busier of the 2 and is landing the harder of the punches. If he continues to go at an 8 year old he will get points deducted. lol
Budden:2
Saigon:1
matter of fact it should be 3 to 1 Saigon’s first diss record was really bad.
If I promise to buy The Greatest Story Never Told(Sidebar Ironic how close is the title to becoming true.) will he stop with the gay bashing of an 8 year old. Shoot what has that boy done on JB TV that is even remotely gay. Play with his dog(PAUSE!!) lol Oh I remember he played with his WII. Yeah playing on the WII is exremely gay;(insert sarcasm) PAUSE!! It’s a close second to taking it in the pooper. LOL
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January 21st, 2009 at 5:47 pm
I think the beat help him a bit. All these disses should be acappella. What did Budden say about Saigon’s kid? That’s the only thing bad about Saigon, going after his kid.
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January 21st, 2009 at 5:52 pm
Budden said he was a dead beat father and Saigon is trying to say it’s the same thing as going after his child which it isn’t.
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January 21st, 2009 at 6:07 pm
I WANT THEM TO MEET UP IN PERSON!!
soo badly
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January 21st, 2009 at 6:16 pm
ok its over saigon won…joe u still tight im still fuckin with u but dont answer u lost…he got tookover(takeover>nas)
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January 21st, 2009 at 6:20 pm
People, when in battle, rap or otherwise there are no rules.
People act like ethics come into play.
CUT DEEP I SAY!
You can debate if it’s witty or clever. Right or wrong, mm mm naw you gotta go for broke.
Words are powerful, you just gotta find the right ones to wound.
All these people (leave the kids alone) whining sound like assholes. There are no rules to this shit. I take that back, there is one rule. WIN.
Win in the court of public opinion.
I see no winners here, all I see is 2 losers here. Thats why I call it the battle of the bottom feeders.
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January 21st, 2009 at 6:20 pm
Saigon came a little but harder this time but Joey’s still winning this battle. I agree with everyone that Sai sounds way to emo on this track. I think he admited defeat by saying that he wont make any more diss tracks towards Budden cuz he knows he is the lesser MC and Joey could go on all day with this.
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January 21st, 2009 at 6:21 pm
…Oh and you get no points when you keep dissing a child.
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January 21st, 2009 at 6:28 pm
If anything…it’s even. This joint and Joe’s last response are about even. Battle over. Stalemate. It’s like South Park.
Timmy vs Jimmy.
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January 21st, 2009 at 6:36 pm
miss info never replies
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shockstar Reply:
January 21st, 2009 at 6:37 pm
why is my comment awaiting moderation
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missinfo Reply:
January 21st, 2009 at 6:48 pm
you must be new here.
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January 21st, 2009 at 6:39 pm
lmao @ mustafa
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January 21st, 2009 at 6:40 pm
hes saying the same shit as the first diss record.
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January 21st, 2009 at 6:57 pm
i totaly agre wit mustafa(18) bout joe budden but seems nobody eva seez diz.d idiot thinks hez so smart
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January 21st, 2009 at 6:57 pm
yooo saigon went in on this shit
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January 21st, 2009 at 6:59 pm
He still lost me with that crack about Joe’s kid, but this track killed Joe.
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January 21st, 2009 at 7:05 pm
Padded room, Mood music, Greatest story never told, bullshit.
All these creative titles, yet very lackluster music. Hey I gotta a few titles for you 2 dudes
FAILURE
or
FUCKING LOSERS!!!
Heres one
Stagnant!
heres another, please buy me (emphasis on PLEASE!)
I SUCK (no homo) just like my albums LOL
It ain’t failure if your in denial
GARBAGE, someones gotta listen to it it might as well be you bloggers lol
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January 21st, 2009 at 7:12 pm
This is all DUMB. Yeah, yeah at least they’re not punching each others lights out. Sure. BUT, this is gay. Joe called Saigon out on some hard facts…he’s def a walking contradiction and pretty insecure. But all of it got too out of hand talking trash about babies mommas. Especially when she’s a single mother who JUST gave birth and the brotha ain’t doin anything for his child. Not cool. All this contributes more hurt in the world. Those two need to get off of each others nuts and move on…and go get careers. None of these songs are Tupac “Hit’em up” …the REALEST diss record EVER.
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January 21st, 2009 at 7:19 pm
time for a head to head battle
http://www.webjam.com/accraunited_profile
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January 21st, 2009 at 7:29 pm
Im not even with it Saigon go head somewhere where duke still rapping?????????
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January 21st, 2009 at 7:31 pm
Saigon’s latest one is cool but he sounds like he’s reading…I could almost hear him turn the paper over
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January 21st, 2009 at 7:53 pm
black ice Says:
January 21st, 2009 at 7:19 pm
time for a head to head battle
^^^^Like Dance 360 with DJ Sly and Fredro Starr? LOL “Head to head! Head to head!”
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January 21st, 2009 at 8:01 pm
All I can say is that I cannot wait for SOB’s tomorrow night (I got the LAST two tickets available). Slaughter House in full, in the midst of this battle, and lets not forget this is the same club that Sai punched up Prodigy . . .
. . . the anticipation.
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January 21st, 2009 at 9:24 pm
Man I like Budden, never was a Saigon fan, but both these dudes are really making it hard for me to care. Either go harder or go back to minding your business and focusing on your craft.
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January 21st, 2009 at 9:32 pm
sai is more appealing to this generation.. the old heads love them some “lyrical content”
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January 21st, 2009 at 9:52 pm
ETTTTTTHERRRRRRRR….ANYBODY WHO SAYS DIFFERENT IS EITHER SOFT (*omg he talked about his son*)LOL a joe budden stan (the few people out there that think hes a messiah) or last but not least just a plain everyday HATER!!
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January 21st, 2009 at 9:57 pm
ok missinfo u must be biased towards budden. aiight
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January 21st, 2009 at 10:45 pm
Omg look @ all the bitter Joey fanz mad he got that ass tagged up i called it 1st joey took the bait that was laid out 4 him sai is not a push ova like ransom my dude got lyrics 4 0f 5 eazy
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January 21st, 2009 at 11:25 pm
Joe B won this one and I’m not a fan of either of them. Joe’s song is just flat out hotter. Even Miss Info agrees (in a non-partisan, non-committal, unmentionable way)
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January 21st, 2009 at 11:38 pm
joe budden lost and he knows it look how fast he put up a video on joebudden tv that nigga joe put up a video quick saigon killed joe sorry joe budden fans
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January 21st, 2009 at 11:58 pm
“sai is more appealing to this generation.. the old heads love them some “lyrical content””
Lol! So you’re saying the new heads love style, the old heads love substance? Hate to break it to you, but the old emcees had style AND substance.
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January 22nd, 2009 at 12:46 am
I have to go with Jabber Jaw Joey Buddens 2 rounds 1 in that first round Joey peppered Saigon with some swift jabs. In the Second round Saigon’s offense was very weak. That third round Joey put him down with some mean combinations that I thought would KO Saigon. Saigon made a serious rally in the fourth I would have scored it a 10-8 round but his flows were borrowed via Wu-Tang clan. Know back to you Bigga.
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January 22nd, 2009 at 1:00 am
whoever said the founding fathers had no style and “substance”? idiot…
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January 22nd, 2009 at 2:13 am
Just seen on onsmash Justblaze got them on the phone and shits suppose to be squashed….It was good while it lasted
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January 22nd, 2009 at 2:54 am
words should only be effective when you saying something good positive and uplifting and making sense but just talking shit and garbage it shoulnt have no effect on no one i have a son and there was a time if you say something bad about my seed no way i let that shit slide but what after that i go to jail for doing some dum shit hell no your words of disrespect cant do my child any harm but actually putting your hands on me or my seed is a whole different thing so move on with saigon talking about how hes on tour on tour where nigga there must be a lot of stupid bored nigaas around this world that’ll actually pay to see saigon rap these wack and boring songs he got and to buddens i dont wanna hear you rapping about no saigon dead that you actually making this wack famous out.
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January 22nd, 2009 at 5:01 am
This is sh*t is getting too predictable, I hope Just Blaze can get em’ to squash it.
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January 22nd, 2009 at 8:23 am
THAT SHIT WAS AIGHT I MEAN FOR SAIGON. I THOUGHT HE WAS MUCH BETTER THAN THIS THOUGH. HE GOT EM WIT TAKIN THE PUMP IT UP BEAT BUT THAT LETTER J SHIT WAS WACK THIS AINT HIP HOP ON PHONICS. STILL NOT AS GOOD AS PAIN IN HIS LIFE CUZ BAR FOR BAR JOEY ATE EM….CANT WAIT FOR THE SHOW TONIGHT AT S.O.B’S U GONE BE THERE RIGHT INFO?
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January 22nd, 2009 at 9:36 am
saigon’s first diss record was garbage!!!!!!!!! but dis is fire!!!!!!!!!!
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January 22nd, 2009 at 10:37 am
didn’t saigon say he wasn’t going to go back and forth after the first diss record? he said this is it after he released the first one.
and then after the end of this ‘pushing buttons’ he said he’s done AGAIN.
..and then when Budden replies again we’re going to see Saigon release another one AGAIN and claim HE’S FINALLY FINISHED THIS TIME.?!
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January 22nd, 2009 at 11:25 am
Well Educated Brother from the Bank aka Bill O’Reilly’s Nightmare; I agree with your scoring. But it looks like Just Blaze has called a stoppage of the fight and we will have to go to the judge’s score cars. While they are doing that I will go to the Ring Girls dressing room. I may not be Educated; but I am smart. LOL
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January 22nd, 2009 at 4:11 pm
real niggas wanna hear real shit buddens pay this nigga no mind and make hot he wants to keep talking about the nigaa neva was hot anyway by the way that club single is gabage do some betta shit i mean who likes saigon the nigga shit is outdated done i aint playing that shit on my whip hell no.
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January 22nd, 2009 at 8:50 pm
I mean, Jesus christ who gives a fucking flying shit about either of these guys.
I wouldnt use this stuff as coasters for my table.
Both of em boring as fuck. I mean saigon, a who song about calling someone Gay? What age is this guy? Hes gonna have to do better than that if hes gonna ever compete with MC’s who have longevity.
In closing, YAWN.
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January 23rd, 2009 at 1:44 am
stupid shit just stupid shit wow this nigga is scared because one nigga is wacker and might he might do something stupid people wanna hear music not dum ass beefs and if you dont think budden is way betta than saigon in every level you must be on saigons camp or you fucking deaf stop talking about this dum shit its just plain stupid no one gives a shit about it and i think ransom and budden are both dope.
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January 23rd, 2009 at 9:15 am
Saigon needs to stop. Line for line Buddens went in on Sai hasn’t put a song out that we can feel in year or two. Alright you’re a tough guy but that don’t do anything for your lines and your bars. Your saying the same thing in each song. You the worse of men/ you become everything that you codemn. He do remind of D’angelo He called him Brown Sugar.
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January 23rd, 2009 at 2:54 pm
all of these diss songs BLOW. point blank. period.
the 300 people who know who they are will be the only 300 people who will ever never who they are. So if there were 30 or so people who only knew Saigon and not Budden or vice versa, congratulations, you have acquired 10% more fame than you had previously.
i won’t even waste free bandwidth downloading these tracks. no replay value whatsoever.
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January 28th, 2009 at 3:35 pm
SAIGON won by KO that last diss was it Joey couldn’t respond to that song even if he wanted to…he got served
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