Wow, it’s like people’s ideas as to what can be considered “Hip-Hop” are getting smaller and smaller.
When you make your music your way and it goes Pop, that doesn’t make you a Pop artist. If your intention was to make a Hip-Hop record, it’s still Hip-Hop no matter what genres it crosses over into. IMO, an intentionally Popish artist (like say Black Eyed Peas) lack that substantive value that BP3 undoubtedly has.
What do YOU consider to be Hip-Hop?
SmilemissnAtoof Reply: December 22nd, 2009 at 4:05 pm
Nobodies asking what u categorize as REAL hip-hop. Maybe this song was not intended to be real hip hop but appeal to a wider audience and be more pop so what? We dont need your help to realize that captain obvious.
Tochi Reply: December 22nd, 2009 at 8:32 pm
Mike, it’s hilarious when you say Black Eyed Peas are ‘intentionally’ pop as though Jay-Z isn’t in the same category.
cmon man. I know hip hop when I hear it, and this simply isn’t it. It’s radio pop.
I’m not making a statement on whether the song is good or bad; that’s a different thing entirely. The fact is that it doesn’t have a hip hop swing to it. The song is techno/electronic driven, which has been the wave of the rap game for a while now. To deny this is to not face reality. Music critics have been documenting this for some time now. I can provide you a link if you really care to read about this further.
If this song is so hip hop, tell me why. Where are the scratches/DJ presence? How come the drums sound more in line with pulsating European dance club music as opposed to street essence aka hip hop? How come Mr Hudson (a pop artist) is singing just like an 80s pop artist on the hook?
In the words of Rage Against the Machine, “Wake Up.”
Mike S. Reply: December 23rd, 2009 at 6:26 pm
I’ll say it one more time for the cheap seats..
People’s ideas of what can and can’t be considered “Hip-Hop” get more and more and confined..
To say that you NEED scratches (or any of the other things you mentioned) in your song to be Hip-Hop is just fucking stupid. Period. You should’ve just went ahead and said that in order to make “Hip-Hop” music you have to record it while break dancing.
I think someof you think Auto-tune is hip hop. SMH
This sound is hip hop love it or hate it ,,..or love for it or hate on it its hip hop. He telling a story and it send the right message with the right tempo.YOUNGGGGGGGGGGG
“To say that you NEED scratches (or any of the other things you mentioned) in your song to be Hip-Hop is just fucking stupid.”
Mike, read my post carefully. You’re the one saying that, I didn’t.
My point is that hip hop has a certain style/elements to it. It includes DJing (which can be in the form of scratches, sampling, cutting, or just in the way the producer/beatmaker operates at a larger scale), breakdancing or some form of dancing, graffiti, rhyming, street essence, a hint of rebellion and free-thought…etc. The more you move away from that, the less it becomes hip hop. Capiche?
Cmon man, this is common sense. You didn’t even answer the question of the drum style and why this track sounds like something I’d hear at Ibiza as opposed to the street corners of Brooklyn/LA/Toronto, etc, and you decided to pick out ’scratches’ because it’s easier to point that out as ridiculous. “Oh look at how outdated he is, talking about scratches!”
If you’re going to argue against me, at least accept my full argument and work from there. Don’t dismiss it by twisting it into some bullshit conclusion that wasn’t even stated by me in the first place.
“If this song is so hip hop, tell me why. Where are the scratches/DJ presence? How come the drums sound more in line with pulsating European dance club music as opposed to street essence aka hip hop? How come Mr Hudson (a pop artist) is singing just like an 80s pop artist on the hook?”
Now, are you or are you not saying that if your song doesn’t have the elements that YOU listed here then it cannot be classified as Hip-Hop?? If that’s not your argument, my bad. If it is, then you need to OPEN YOUR EYES!
Hip-Hop has taken from other genres from the beginning (whether it be Jazz, Rock, Soul, R&B, etc), so to say that because this song has a singer on the chorus and samples a Pop song then it’s not Hip-Hop is ridiculous. The drums aren’t “street” enough for you? C’MON SON (Ed Lover voice). You just have a very dated and limited view of what Hip-Hop is and should be (that’s obvious just from looking at your other comments here).
Hip-Hop is more than the things you listed. It’s grown a whole lot since 30 years ago, and the point you’re arguing may have been affective back then. Not now. It’s a way of life (i.e. slang, swagger, style, attitude), it’s ambition, overcoming the odds, it’s proclaiming to be the best at what you do and be able to back it up. It’s all of these and more. That’s WHY IT’S HIP-HOP.
“through the darkest blocks, over kitchen stoves,
over Pyrex pots, my name shall be passed down to generations while debating up in barber shops,
young slung, hung here,
show that the nigga from here
with a little ambition just what we can become here”
“…and you decided to pick out ’scratches’ because it’s easier to point that out as ridiculous.”
You said it, not me!
Tochi Reply: December 24th, 2009 at 8:31 pm
This is the last post I’ll make, because you’re clearly not reading what I say.
Hip hop BY DEFINITION is a genre-mixer, but with a certain African-American/street/Latino core. It takes other genres and MAKES IT HIP HOP.
Get what I’m saying? It samples from jazz and doesn’t become jazz, but takes a few elements here and there to fit within hip hop culture/structure.
New cats are not doing this. They are simply trying to make pop records but rap on them, that’s the difference.
But why should I talk about this anymore. Here’s an article that breaks it down for you, since I’m not making sense to you:
Pay particular attention to this part:
“One of the most interesting observations in Frere-Jones’s piece is that rap producers are abandoning swing and syncopation for more pulse-based club rhythms (house/trance/electro-pop), resulting in a shift to a European rather than African-American feel.”
Timbaland has even said he’s moving away from hip hop and doing more techno Europop because that’s what his fanbase wants.
Wow didn’t like this track at first but this videos changed my mind. I gotta say nice work hov. Sometimes I want to grow up fast but, in reality I too want stay young forever.
make sure you finish that statement saying look how he made it out from here and where he went /at ….you can too… I love brooklyn but as my daughter get older i need a slower pace of life for her
How old are you , cause if you young u a d!c and if your anywhere near 30 you a bigger d!c..either way you a d!c. \\
Music well Good music dont have time tables or age. is anyone tell Aretha Franklin to stop singing. Just originated from the streets to tell a story and no matter how old you get the story will forever be the same ,YOUNG
He Jacked the Idea! Not the Sample! Yes he used the sample like a million others propably have but doing a rap song with the same original and same content is jackin! come on, son! (Ed Lover Voice) and Hove was back and forth to germany about the same time that Bushido song was on mtv and other video channels allday everyday! just beacause nobody back home will notice?? sorry thats lack of creativity to me!
“Why y’all acting as if Jay-z is the 1st rapper to sample a pop record?”
that’s not what we’re talking about.
you’re talking about Run.. go back to Bambaataa and when he was sampling Kraftwerk, which is electronica/techno. I know hip hop’s always reached to other genres for sounds. That’s not the issue.
The issue is that we used to take those sounds and MAKE IT HIP HOP. We didn’t take the structure of a pop record because we already had a structure, and that was hip hop. Hip hop has its own swing to it that’s rooted more in blues, Motown, etc.
But now, cats are taking the whole structure of a pop/techno record and just rapping/talking boringly on it. That’s a POP record. Just because you rap on something doesn’t automatically make it hip hop.
you just said Bambaataa did it so that mean it was there from the beginning so that means its something Hip Hop does so get off it, Hip hop is a mix of things that are street and struggle its too broad
What you talking about i can name a few rap records off the top of my head that have a pop structure to sound.Kanye(Flashing lights),Em(most of his catalogue),Lupe(superstar)…
The biggest record in Hip hop history is(Em’s Stan) a pop record,jacked from a pop star(Dido),featuring thee pop star.
Tochi Reply: December 23rd, 2009 at 10:51 pm
@Dat!Boy:
all those records you mentioned are pop records with a bit borrowed from hip hop.
I’ve always said that Em never made straight-up hip hop records, even from the beginning. That’s why it amazes me when people defend Em to the death as being a savior of hip hop when he’s never been about strictly hip hop (in a musical sense). Em has always been a crossover artist. He makes his music to get played in hip hop but more importantly on other radio formats. e.g. soft rock, top 40, etc.
anyway, the point is that this Jigga record is POP, not hip hop in the way the genre of hip hop SHOULD operate. That doesn’t make the song automatically bad by default, but let’s not kid ourselves by saying it belongs to the hip hop genre or encompasses hip hop.
Wow…time flies by quicker the more we mature…Hope in the 00’s many of you who have lost so much understand you still here…even in the down and especially in the ups, we still here, Great for Jay, and his financial pursuits….Conquests for G. Khan and their pariahs…
Shout to those whose hits have been harder than the actual gain, but still are leveraged…Happy Holidays, may that be an up..
this that weak ass Grey Poupon music.. this dat soft z-100 Urkel shit !!! Yo Gayz “Rap is NOT Pop if U call it that then Stop” !!! and who’s this nigga’s stylist ??? fuckin 1 of the worse dressers in hiphop, wit dem bullshit shades on all the fuckin time SMH !!!! bitch ass Fuck Jayz !!!!!
Im at a point where It’s no longer needed to even talk about age anymore. Why even feed into convo bout age, pop music etc…..
Until the youth start running the game then they can talk about being old as for now get yall game up. Because the behinds the scene its 30+plus and ova who run this so called hip hop game….
it’s like having your teen children telling you how to do what you have been doing even before they were even created….
Crazy….future of rap is like who is really gonna have it popping in the next 5 to 10 yrs. lil wayne status will be over in the next 2 years. as you already know drake has the biggest buzz of of young money….
The convo is interesting.. is the music just evolving to reflect its broader demographic or has it been bastardized? My guess is somewhere in the middle. For various reasons the music can’t be in the “roots” because 1 technology, 2 a large percentage of the people performing it don’t relate to the “root” (blues,scratching, motown,etc)3. Success of the hip hop has opened it up to broader users and interpretation. It’s not a niche product anymore.
At the same time, just like anything else, the love of the fast buck can sour the quality.
December 22nd, 2009 at 11:10 am
I’m predicting a lot of hate is coming to this post, so let me just get this out of the way..
Love the track. It’s probably my favorite on the album now that my 1st favorite (“Empire State…”) was run into the ground.
Definitely one of those timeless records with real life thoughts & emotions.
“You went to the bottom of the ocean on that one.” ©Marcus Graham
Now… let the hating begin!!! lol
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Rhyme & Reason Reply:
December 22nd, 2009 at 3:24 pm
Shout out to KRS-One
I love n Respect My Legends.
Real music is Real music
Respect It!
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December 22nd, 2009 at 11:18 am
I likes… thanks Jay
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December 22nd, 2009 at 11:19 am
The original is still ten times better…
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Chase Greene Reply:
December 22nd, 2009 at 11:59 am
if you mean the original sans jigga…most true
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Rhyme & Reason Reply:
December 22nd, 2009 at 3:35 pm
Yall Must be talkin’ bout the
Rod Stewart Original
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHzMCFgTid0
People Froget what Hip Hop IS
And Does
Hope Ya Brought ya Books Children.
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December 22nd, 2009 at 11:46 am
Classic…Thanks HOV for great hiphop music.
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December 22nd, 2009 at 12:03 pm
Ya’ll should take a look at the german version…http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIvqxc2ReBM
Dont feel Jiggas 2 much & the vids kinda boring
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December 22nd, 2009 at 12:53 pm
European Hov.Stadium music baby!This record gets mad love across the pond.
Don’t be surprised if it ends up #1
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December 22nd, 2009 at 2:01 pm
shit is more techno/electronica, less hip hop.
Thanks for watering down the game, Hov. ‘preciate it.
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SmilemissnAtoof Reply:
December 22nd, 2009 at 2:22 pm
hater hater
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Erik Reply:
December 22nd, 2009 at 2:49 pm
Just because a person states his opinion doesn’t mean hes a hater. To think so is to be ignorant. Respect other people’s opinions.
I didn’t like the track at all. I don’t think this is hip hop. This is pop music at its finest.
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Mike S. Reply:
December 22nd, 2009 at 4:04 pm
“shit is more techno/electronica, less hip hop.”
“This is pop music at its finest.”
Wow, it’s like people’s ideas as to what can be considered “Hip-Hop” are getting smaller and smaller.
When you make your music your way and it goes Pop, that doesn’t make you a Pop artist. If your intention was to make a Hip-Hop record, it’s still Hip-Hop no matter what genres it crosses over into. IMO, an intentionally Popish artist (like say Black Eyed Peas) lack that substantive value that BP3 undoubtedly has.
What do YOU consider to be Hip-Hop?
SmilemissnAtoof Reply:
December 22nd, 2009 at 4:05 pm
Nobodies asking what u categorize as REAL hip-hop. Maybe this song was not intended to be real hip hop but appeal to a wider audience and be more pop so what? We dont need your help to realize that captain obvious.
Tochi Reply:
December 22nd, 2009 at 8:32 pm
Mike, it’s hilarious when you say Black Eyed Peas are ‘intentionally’ pop as though Jay-Z isn’t in the same category.
cmon man. I know hip hop when I hear it, and this simply isn’t it. It’s radio pop.
I’m not making a statement on whether the song is good or bad; that’s a different thing entirely. The fact is that it doesn’t have a hip hop swing to it. The song is techno/electronic driven, which has been the wave of the rap game for a while now. To deny this is to not face reality. Music critics have been documenting this for some time now. I can provide you a link if you really care to read about this further.
If this song is so hip hop, tell me why. Where are the scratches/DJ presence? How come the drums sound more in line with pulsating European dance club music as opposed to street essence aka hip hop? How come Mr Hudson (a pop artist) is singing just like an 80s pop artist on the hook?
In the words of Rage Against the Machine, “Wake Up.”
Mike S. Reply:
December 23rd, 2009 at 6:26 pm
I’ll say it one more time for the cheap seats..
People’s ideas of what can and can’t be considered “Hip-Hop” get more and more and confined..
To say that you NEED scratches (or any of the other things you mentioned) in your song to be Hip-Hop is just fucking stupid. Period. You should’ve just went ahead and said that in order to make “Hip-Hop” music you have to record it while break dancing.
“A wise man told me don’t argue with fools, cause people from a distance can’t tell who is who.” ©Jay-Z
Active423 Reply:
December 23rd, 2009 at 5:14 am
I think someof you think Auto-tune is hip hop. SMH
This sound is hip hop love it or hate it ,,..or love for it or hate on it its hip hop. He telling a story and it send the right message with the right tempo.YOUNGGGGGGGGGGG
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Tochi Reply:
December 24th, 2009 at 4:52 am
@Mike S.
“To say that you NEED scratches (or any of the other things you mentioned) in your song to be Hip-Hop is just fucking stupid.”
Mike, read my post carefully. You’re the one saying that, I didn’t.
My point is that hip hop has a certain style/elements to it. It includes DJing (which can be in the form of scratches, sampling, cutting, or just in the way the producer/beatmaker operates at a larger scale), breakdancing or some form of dancing, graffiti, rhyming, street essence, a hint of rebellion and free-thought…etc. The more you move away from that, the less it becomes hip hop. Capiche?
Cmon man, this is common sense. You didn’t even answer the question of the drum style and why this track sounds like something I’d hear at Ibiza as opposed to the street corners of Brooklyn/LA/Toronto, etc, and you decided to pick out ’scratches’ because it’s easier to point that out as ridiculous. “Oh look at how outdated he is, talking about scratches!”
If you’re going to argue against me, at least accept my full argument and work from there. Don’t dismiss it by twisting it into some bullshit conclusion that wasn’t even stated by me in the first place.
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Mike S. Reply:
December 24th, 2009 at 2:49 pm
“Mike, read my post carefully.”
Okay…
“If this song is so hip hop, tell me why. Where are the scratches/DJ presence? How come the drums sound more in line with pulsating European dance club music as opposed to street essence aka hip hop? How come Mr Hudson (a pop artist) is singing just like an 80s pop artist on the hook?”
Now, are you or are you not saying that if your song doesn’t have the elements that YOU listed here then it cannot be classified as Hip-Hop?? If that’s not your argument, my bad. If it is, then you need to OPEN YOUR EYES!
Hip-Hop has taken from other genres from the beginning (whether it be Jazz, Rock, Soul, R&B, etc), so to say that because this song has a singer on the chorus and samples a Pop song then it’s not Hip-Hop is ridiculous. The drums aren’t “street” enough for you? C’MON SON (Ed Lover voice). You just have a very dated and limited view of what Hip-Hop is and should be (that’s obvious just from looking at your other comments here).
Hip-Hop is more than the things you listed. It’s grown a whole lot since 30 years ago, and the point you’re arguing may have been affective back then. Not now. It’s a way of life (i.e. slang, swagger, style, attitude), it’s ambition, overcoming the odds, it’s proclaiming to be the best at what you do and be able to back it up. It’s all of these and more. That’s WHY IT’S HIP-HOP.
“through the darkest blocks, over kitchen stoves,
over Pyrex pots, my name shall be passed down to generations while debating up in barber shops,
young slung, hung here,
show that the nigga from here
with a little ambition just what we can become here”
“…and you decided to pick out ’scratches’ because it’s easier to point that out as ridiculous.”
You said it, not me!
Tochi Reply:
December 24th, 2009 at 8:31 pm
This is the last post I’ll make, because you’re clearly not reading what I say.
Hip hop BY DEFINITION is a genre-mixer, but with a certain African-American/street/Latino core. It takes other genres and MAKES IT HIP HOP.
Get what I’m saying? It samples from jazz and doesn’t become jazz, but takes a few elements here and there to fit within hip hop culture/structure.
New cats are not doing this. They are simply trying to make pop records but rap on them, that’s the difference.
But why should I talk about this anymore. Here’s an article that breaks it down for you, since I’m not making sense to you:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/musicblog/2009/nov/26/notes-noughties-hip-hop
Pay particular attention to this part:
“One of the most interesting observations in Frere-Jones’s piece is that rap producers are abandoning swing and syncopation for more pulse-based club rhythms (house/trance/electro-pop), resulting in a shift to a European rather than African-American feel.”
Timbaland has even said he’s moving away from hip hop and doing more techno Europop because that’s what his fanbase wants.
Cmon man, open your eyes.
peace.
December 22nd, 2009 at 2:13 pm
Wow didn’t like this track at first but this videos changed my mind. I gotta say nice work hov. Sometimes I want to grow up fast but, in reality I too want stay young forever.
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December 22nd, 2009 at 2:22 pm
anotha hit
i lke to hate jay cuz his “off da court” bullshit
but hez droppin hits
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December 22nd, 2009 at 2:45 pm
beautiful song beautiful video
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December 22nd, 2009 at 2:56 pm
Ahhhhhh yes, I can see myself walking with my son through Marcy on a Sunday afternoon, and turning to him and saying “Son, Young slung here.”
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Rhyme & Reason Reply:
December 22nd, 2009 at 4:08 pm
LOL I like dat
true shit bruh
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Active423 Reply:
December 23rd, 2009 at 5:17 am
make sure you finish that statement saying look how he made it out from here and where he went /at ….you can too… I love brooklyn but as my daughter get older i need a slower pace of life for her
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December 22nd, 2009 at 3:27 pm
when age dictates that you can no longer make “So Ghetto” and now have to make this, its telling you to stop rapping. sigh.
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Dat!boy Reply:
December 22nd, 2009 at 3:52 pm
^
*Dead*
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Active423 Reply:
December 23rd, 2009 at 5:22 am
How old are you , cause if you young u a d!c and if your anywhere near 30 you a bigger d!c..either way you a d!c. \\
Music well Good music dont have time tables or age. is anyone tell Aretha Franklin to stop singing. Just originated from the streets to tell a story and no matter how old you get the story will forever be the same ,YOUNG
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December 22nd, 2009 at 3:57 pm
breaks kru logo up in the video,
founder and wifey in it too
so fitting they have one on they way..
sorry being random…
carry on..
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December 22nd, 2009 at 5:15 pm
JAY-Z JACKS FROM GERMAN PLATINUM SELLING ATRIST BUSHIDO!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDAgpUPXOjw
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Ryan Reply:
December 22nd, 2009 at 7:01 pm
Jackin? really? I guess you didn’t buy the album and read the credits and samples.
So according to YOU! we should expect a law suit right?
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wow Reply:
December 23rd, 2009 at 12:08 pm
He Jacked the Idea! Not the Sample! Yes he used the sample like a million others propably have but doing a rap song with the same original and same content is jackin! come on, son! (Ed Lover Voice) and Hove was back and forth to germany about the same time that Bushido song was on mtv and other video channels allday everyday! just beacause nobody back home will notice?? sorry thats lack of creativity to me!
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Rhyme & Reason Reply:
December 22nd, 2009 at 7:34 pm
“Jay-z Jacks…”
Damm! give da Producer some credit Damm! lol
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December 22nd, 2009 at 5:18 pm
AND FOR THE RECORDS THE ORIGINAL IS NOT FROM ROD STWEARD IT`S FROM THE GERMAN 80´S BAND ALPHAVILLE! CHECK OUT THE PLAYS ON THE LINK!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7CuJ8cR9sg&feature=fvw
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Rhyme & Reason Reply:
December 22nd, 2009 at 7:32 pm
Good Look on that
but actually Mr Hudson has a version hisself so who jacked who and collaborated
The track is raw we cant ever deny that
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December 22nd, 2009 at 7:37 pm
z z z z z z z
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December 22nd, 2009 at 8:11 pm
DOPE VIDEO, HOV U ARE THE G.O.A.T. PERIOD
YOUNG FOREVER
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December 22nd, 2009 at 9:05 pm
jay z is a freemason
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Active423 Reply:
December 23rd, 2009 at 5:25 am
what do you people get out of that ? he is or isnt? you fckn on here and click this feed to watch YOUNG fucadahere
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December 22nd, 2009 at 9:40 pm
The video is cool… the song is alright… Jay just seems all depressed and shit.
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December 22nd, 2009 at 10:14 pm
Why y’all acting as if Jay-z is the 1st rapper to sample a pop record?
Rappers have always used samples since day one.From Run DMC,2Pac,Biggie,kanye and to whoever your favorite rapper is,all done it!
Why should jay-z be the exception?If you gon dislike the song be it but keep it 100.
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Tochi Reply:
December 23rd, 2009 at 1:13 am
“Why y’all acting as if Jay-z is the 1st rapper to sample a pop record?”
that’s not what we’re talking about.
you’re talking about Run.. go back to Bambaataa and when he was sampling Kraftwerk, which is electronica/techno. I know hip hop’s always reached to other genres for sounds. That’s not the issue.
The issue is that we used to take those sounds and MAKE IT HIP HOP. We didn’t take the structure of a pop record because we already had a structure, and that was hip hop. Hip hop has its own swing to it that’s rooted more in blues, Motown, etc.
But now, cats are taking the whole structure of a pop/techno record and just rapping/talking boringly on it. That’s a POP record. Just because you rap on something doesn’t automatically make it hip hop.
Which is what I’m trying to say.
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Active423 Reply:
December 23rd, 2009 at 5:29 am
you just said Bambaataa did it so that mean it was there from the beginning so that means its something Hip Hop does so get off it, Hip hop is a mix of things that are street and struggle its too broad
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Dat!boy Reply:
December 23rd, 2009 at 10:40 am
@Tochi
What you talking about i can name a few rap records off the top of my head that have a pop structure to sound.Kanye(Flashing lights),Em(most of his catalogue),Lupe(superstar)…
The biggest record in Hip hop history is(Em’s Stan) a pop record,jacked from a pop star(Dido),featuring thee pop star.
Tochi Reply:
December 23rd, 2009 at 10:51 pm
@Dat!Boy:
all those records you mentioned are pop records with a bit borrowed from hip hop.
I’ve always said that Em never made straight-up hip hop records, even from the beginning. That’s why it amazes me when people defend Em to the death as being a savior of hip hop when he’s never been about strictly hip hop (in a musical sense). Em has always been a crossover artist. He makes his music to get played in hip hop but more importantly on other radio formats. e.g. soft rock, top 40, etc.
anyway, the point is that this Jigga record is POP, not hip hop in the way the genre of hip hop SHOULD operate. That doesn’t make the song automatically bad by default, but let’s not kid ourselves by saying it belongs to the hip hop genre or encompasses hip hop.
December 23rd, 2009 at 10:24 am
Wow…time flies by quicker the more we mature…Hope in the 00’s many of you who have lost so much understand you still here…even in the down and especially in the ups, we still here, Great for Jay, and his financial pursuits….Conquests for G. Khan and their pariahs…
Shout to those whose hits have been harder than the actual gain, but still are leveraged…Happy Holidays, may that be an up..
haa….
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December 23rd, 2009 at 3:15 pm
this that weak ass Grey Poupon music.. this dat soft z-100 Urkel shit !!! Yo Gayz “Rap is NOT Pop if U call it that then Stop” !!! and who’s this nigga’s stylist ??? fuckin 1 of the worse dressers in hiphop, wit dem bullshit shades on all the fuckin time SMH !!!! bitch ass Fuck Jayz !!!!!
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December 23rd, 2009 at 5:25 pm
Im at a point where It’s no longer needed to even talk about age anymore. Why even feed into convo bout age, pop music etc…..
Until the youth start running the game then they can talk about being old as for now get yall game up. Because the behinds the scene its 30+plus and ova who run this so called hip hop game….
it’s like having your teen children telling you how to do what you have been doing even before they were even created….
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December 23rd, 2009 at 5:29 pm
Beautiful video…… Who directed it?? They did their thing.
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December 23rd, 2009 at 5:29 pm
Crazy….future of rap is like who is really gonna have it popping in the next 5 to 10 yrs. lil wayne status will be over in the next 2 years. as you already know drake has the biggest buzz of of young money….
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December 23rd, 2009 at 11:25 pm
The convo is interesting.. is the music just evolving to reflect its broader demographic or has it been bastardized? My guess is somewhere in the middle. For various reasons the music can’t be in the “roots” because 1 technology, 2 a large percentage of the people performing it don’t relate to the “root” (blues,scratching, motown,etc)3. Success of the hip hop has opened it up to broader users and interpretation. It’s not a niche product anymore.
At the same time, just like anything else, the love of the fast buck can sour the quality.
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December 25th, 2009 at 2:52 pm
I GUESS THIS SHOWS HOW MUCH OUR CULTURE IS CONFUSED. ITS A GOOD SONG. IN MY OPINON FAR FROM RAPRAPRAPRAP.
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