Tue 19 Jul 2011
Until we get The Life And Times Of Sebastian Rios, Joell goes over the sounds of Jake One with “Seven Deuce”.
New Music: Joell Ortiz – “Seven Deuce” (prod. by Jake One)
via OnSMASH
After the jump Fat Joe supports Joell Ortiz’s “Big Pun Back”…..
XXL caught up with Fat Joe to get his thoughts on Joell’s tribute to Big Pun, which has received some backlash from others close to the late Christopher Rios.
“I thought it was incredible. I thought it was great. I never seen a guy in my fuckin’ life get backlash for fuckin’ biggin’ up somebody.”
“See, what happened is Big Pun was surrounded by an enormous amounts of idiots,” he added. “And, sad to say, as big of a genius he was, and beautiful as he was, and I’m not just sayin’ that ’cause he dead, ’cause he was the most loyal, beautiful person… He’s my brother. I worship him to death… But, it’s unfortunate he was surrounded by a bunch of fuckin’ idiots. Nincompoops. You got a younger Spanish dude who’s hot in the streets and he wants to honor Big Pun and you throw slander at him and you disrespect him for fuckin’ only honoring Pun? How do expect anybody else to honor Big Pun?! Or talk about him in a good way?!”
“This is the shit, I hope people can open their eyes and see the shit that Fat Joe has been dealing with for the last 12 years,” he continued. “It’s fuckin’ idiotic. It’s fuckin’ lunacy at its finest. ‘I don’t think you should’ve bigged up Pun.’ Like, what the fuck are you talkin’ about? He’s honoring Big Pun, showing respect to Big Pun. What’s the problem? We can’t do that? We’re honoring the one fuckin’ Spanish nigga that wants to step up and say, ‘Guess what? Man, I love Big Pun. Big Pun’s back.’ Where’s the disrespect? I never seen shit like this in my life. Amazing, man. I think I got more upset than Joell Ortiz did, but I know the type of people he’s dealing with.”
Read the full story over at XXL
Previously: Joell Ortiz Feat. Pharoahe Monch & B.o.B “Psycho”
July 19th, 2011 at 1:07 pm
Joe is speaking like a fan right here, not just someone that knows those pricks personally. Im from the Bronx and in the video that those clowns put out, they just looked like the dudes on the corner talking about the days that they were hot and coulda took things over. I feel like that video made people from the Bronx look like dumb-asses, especially opening it up with the block drunk/Diesel fiend. I need to message you info I was hoping to get some information…… I typed get some info and I automatically had to delete it remembering how you said on the radio how dudes try and approach you hahaha
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July 19th, 2011 at 4:41 pm
theres another song with joell ortiz on it with Nivla and preme called Retribution. its kind of a hot song! you should put it up miss info.
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July 19th, 2011 at 11:16 pm
Yeah, shit is hot….I’m impressed. He spit on that right there. I had to wheel it back, so when u do that you know it’s hot..Good shit!
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July 20th, 2011 at 9:14 am
I’m with Fat Joe on this one. I truly understand where he is coming from, specially since I followed T.S. back in the day. Their first album is one of my favorite, some of Pun and Joe’s Best rhymes are in that album. I recently played that album and now it is clear to me that the Rest of the guys were over achieving and peak were they started. Which it is why there was never growth amongst those guys. Listen Back, I was surprised at how Good Armageddon was. But instead they choose to Focus on Cuba’s Career. Armageddon is the only one that had potential AND clearly he did not derived his style from pun like the others. Which only Made Tony Montana references.
Anyone can sound half way decent on a record making Scarface references. I mean some people have made careers of it. That movie was like the Stimulus Package of rappers of the 80s and 90s.
On another note. I’m feeling Joel’s song. Even though he is not close to being Big Pun. He is the closest thing the Latin and hip hop community has had to pun.
To me he is a Scaled down version of Pun. To me pun at time was almost overwhelming to listen to. He’s verses were packed with amazing references not used by any other rappers. His similes and metaphors were incredible. Rhyme per Rhyme he is definitely TOP 5. No question. But Joel is a baby pun. No as good. No a ferocious on the mike. No as aggressive. No the same ear fot beats. And obviously no the backing of LOUD which was a great label for Hip Hop music.
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July 23rd, 2011 at 4:04 pm
Nah i think Joell is MORE ferocious on the mic. Hell, hes one of the most ferocious period. but i agree he could have better beats. his references go over some peoples heads tho.
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