Wed 26 Aug 2009
New Music: Jay-Z “Venus vs. Mars” (produced by Timbaland*)
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Jay-Z “Venus vs. Mars” (Produced by Timbaland) (tagged)
I like this beat best in comparison to the other Timbaland-Hov leaks “Off That,” and “Reminder.”
According to my NMC goonies who had the scoop, via Shoot 5 Ent… this song and other exclusives will be on a mixtape called The Layout.
*that’s 3 from Miami.
UPDATE: I think its a wrap for the Hov leaks…But in related news, XXL has teased their upcoming Jay issue with this cover and feature excerpts…
“But when I say I’m the best, I don’t say that outta my ass. I say that with all my stats behind me. I put that against anybody. I mean anybody. I really believe that… I believe in a lot of things.
I believe that ‘SportsCenter’ is the best thing on TV. I shouldn’t have to prove it. But I do have these stats to prove it. I’m talking about real run. I’m not talking about years off. I’m talking about straight—boom, boom, boom—back to back. We’re not talking about heritage acts either. We’re not talking about respect what I’ve done. I’m talking No. 1 [albums] 10 times. The Beatles is the only one [to have more
No. 1 albums]. They got 19, and if I get a surge of creativity, I could make nine albums next year.”
August 26th, 2009 at 10:45 am
None of the new Jay-Z songs are that impressive. This song doesn’t change my perspective. Average stuff. I expect better. Therefore I will not be buying this album. This album is NOT worth my hard-earned money.
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A.G Reply:
August 26th, 2009 at 11:21 am
I think people expect too much from Jay.
Matter of fact, nobody in this game is releasing consistant materiel, so we fans out there are just to demanding with Jay.
This song is good, lyrics are tight, the beat is nice, the hook is catchy… It’s my opinion but I’m trying to be the most impartial as possible.
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QB Reply:
August 26th, 2009 at 11:27 am
Nas puts out consistent material.
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Triune Reply:
August 26th, 2009 at 12:22 pm
Nas does not put out consistent material. Where did you get that from and based on his catologue, what would make you say that? You don’t remember, “I Am,” “Nastradamus,” “Street Disciple” “Hip Hop Is Dead?” All of those were garbage minus “Hip Hop Is Dead” and that album was decent at best.
John doe Reply:
August 26th, 2009 at 12:41 pm
I am was one of his best albums u buggin, and look at his name QB that’s why he said, but imma nas fan so I agree with QB.
mr rythm Reply:
August 26th, 2009 at 3:58 pm
nas has about 2 good songs per album.
Triune Reply:
August 26th, 2009 at 4:23 pm
I Am was one of Nas’ best album according to who? The same album with “Dr. Knockboots” and “K.I.S.S.I.N.G.” on it? According to every publication at that time, The Source, XXL, and Vibe, “I AM” was a horrible Nas album, not to mention that is public opinion too. If you liked it so be it, but it definitley isn’t nearly one of his best bodies of work and doesn’t compare at all to Illmatic, It Was Written, or Untitled. As far as QB, he’s probably just young and only knows Nas from Hip Hop is Dead and on.
DANJ! Reply:
August 26th, 2009 at 6:27 pm
Nas puts out consistent material alright…
…consistently half-assed albums.
-D!
mertz Reply:
August 26th, 2009 at 11:18 pm
this generic blanket statement is not something i subscribe to. i was gonna leave this to grown men to bash it out, but i think this is a discussion for all fans, and i’m a big nas fan…i put him over biggie because although i really like biggie i don’t listen to a lot of his records like some people in my house, but i listen to nas all the time. to say nas puts out consistent material is like saying hove is the greatest ever. it’s actually an insult to the dude because even he knows when he’s putting things on a record, that he might have worked hard on, that shouldn’t be in a collection to be released. i think he is one of the best lyricists i’ve heard in my life without having to go in back catalogue and listen to some krs 1, rakim, etc…but to say that nas comes with it CONSISTENTLY, as in like, all the time…man i would just say i disagree with what you saying. sorry.
mertz Reply:
August 26th, 2009 at 11:27 pm
oh and nas>jay z. i’ve been listening to nas since i was 7 years old. my oldest brother got illmatic and although he would play it when our parents were working 24/7, i would steal it from him and listen to it. i used to sleep to nas. i learned how to sing the lyrics on illmatic. i was basically that little girl on the playground going around quoting nas to my peers and they were like what is wrong with this girl. so yeah i’ve been growing up with nas and he’s really high up on my list of rappers and creative people in general. i draw, paint, write, to nas. if you don’t know i am a nas stan. anytime.
Triune Reply:
August 27th, 2009 at 1:35 pm
Mertz, it’s okay to be a huge fan of someone. I’m a huge fan of Rakim, KRS-One, James Brown, John Coltrane, and there are many more. That’s not the point. I think the word to describe Nas is Longevity. He’s been around since 94, had some great material, some good material, some mediocre material, and some bad material. Putting Nas above BIG to me isn’t a big deal because unfortunately, BIG wasn’t around long enough to cement that GOAT title. 2 albums to me wasn’t enough. Although, Jay is in the conversation of GOAT. May be, may not be, but he’s definitley int he conversation and truth be told, he’s done ALOT for the rap game. I think Nas is in the conversation as well. The only problem I have with Nas is he is inconsistent when it comes to putting out good material. Jay is very consistent at doing that.
mertz Reply:
August 27th, 2009 at 3:38 pm
>Triune Reply:
August 27th, 2009 at 1:35 pm
Mertz, it’s okay to be a huge fan of someone. I’m a huge fan of Rakim, KRS-One, James Brown, John Coltrane, and there are many more. That’s not the point. I think the word to describe Nas is Longevity. He’s been around since 94, had some great material, some good material, some mediocre material, and some bad material. Putting Nas above BIG to me isn’t a big deal because unfortunately, BIG wasn’t around long enough to cement that GOAT title. 2 albums to me wasn’t enough. Although, Jay is in the conversation of GOAT. May be, may not be, but he’s definitley int he conversation and truth be told, he’s done ALOT for the rap game. I think Nas is in the conversation as well. The only problem I have with Nas is he is inconsistent when it comes to putting out good material. Jay is very consistent at doing that.
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yeah truine i see what you’re saying really. jay z has more singles than nas does, and the people flock to him more than nas, and i guess i have to give people some credit because they wouldn’t like something if it wasn’t good. it makes me a little sad that more people do not pick up a nas record and give it a listen because i think everyone can learn something from the dude, but i also agree that saying the man is consistent is kinda disingenuous…especially when people are comparing him to jay z and you are looking at numbers and production and all that…lyrically i would like to argue in nas’s favour, but i can’t blind myself to him being a genuis writer and not a brilliant communicator in all aspects of the music. i think a lot of people sleeping on nas…but if they were i wouldn’t have to say that people need to give the dude a chance just because he’s not to everyone’s taste or mainstream enough. oh well. to each their own. but i’m going to put it out there and say i have every nas record and in my opinion he’s better than jay z. he needs to work more on this production, and maybe concrete concepts and the entirety of a collection of records, but aside from that i can create listening to nas, whereas i can’t do that listening to jay z. i can dance to jay z, whereas i can’t dance to nas. people like different things.
QB Reply:
August 26th, 2009 at 5:01 pm
Triune, stop acting like a retard. “KISSING”? Jay-Z has pop songs on ALL of his albums including Blueprint that had “Hola Hoveto”, “Girls” and a bunch of other crap, but yet people call that a classic. There is a double standard that Jay-Z stans have created. Jay-Z is allowed to have pop music on every album, but if Nas has one or two songs, his album sucks and he’s the worst. Get off Jay-Z’s dick. No one cares what those mags say. Listen to the album yourself and form your own opinions. And I’m not young. I’ve been listening to Nas since Illmatic, and I’ve heard every album he’s put out since. Nas’s albums are of higher quality then Jay-Z. You can’t compare a lyrical, creative rapper with a pop star who only talks about himself and how great he is in his rhymes. Jay has some good tracks, but he’s not fucking with Nasir.
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circus Reply:
August 26th, 2009 at 10:32 pm
when nas tries to make a pop song the results are usually disastrous.
When jay does it he fully commits. I means compare kissing to “give it to me”…u see the difference.
I like them both. but u can’t be serious and say nas is more consistent than jay. quality or quantity wise.
anelka Reply:
August 27th, 2009 at 6:03 am
dude u just made some good points,I am was a dope album,and since most of these rap fans are so infatuated with sales,it debuted on no 1 on billboard 200 with 500,000 records sold and has reached multiplatinum status.cos Nas drops a few pop oriented song dnt mean shit.u hear stuff lik he fell off or sold out when he drops like 1 or 2 singles and sells millions of records.But when Jay does d same thing,his stans say he d king.its a fact jay got way more pop records than nas cos he turned pop immediatly after RD and yet he nevver fell off.wats up with dat.Nas has sold over 20 million records till date without selling his soul lik Jay.When Big and Pac were alive n selling million Nas was doing d same too yet he fell off.wat d fuck is dat?When he drops a street single n sells just a milli,u hear stuff like he is not relevant cos he dnt sell records.wat d fuck is dat?Bp3 commin soon n has run this town as d 1st single which is a wack pop song,but u still hear his stans say he king n his bringing bak hiphop.wat d fuck is dat?nuff said.
ron Reply:
August 27th, 2009 at 10:31 am
Nas’ albums are boring nowadays.’I am’ was his turning point…it was terrible.It was not the fact that he had pop songs on there.it was the fact that the songs were jus plain trash.“KISSING”? that song was so lame, i wasted £15($30) on that album and it was let down, big time.I think it was jayz’ beatz that helped him become a bigger artist in the end.
Triune Reply:
August 27th, 2009 at 10:54 am
First off [edit], Pop songs aren’t bad, BAD SONGS are bad! I don’t give a fuck whether or not it’s a record about females or not, if it’s good it’s good. Secondly, I didn’t mention Jay one time. You made a lame ass comment that was wrong, and now you wanna catch feelings. You obviously haven’t been listening to Nas since Illmatic to say that no one cared about The Source’s reveiws at that time. They were the Hip Hop Bibile back then. Remember? Probably not because your probably 16 years old and a dumb ass at that. Just to touch on Jay for the FIRST TIME, to say that Nas’ catologue is better than Jay’s is like saying the Dallas Mavericks are a better franchise than Los Angeles Lakers. It just isn’t true and in every faccet of performance, Jay’s albums have been better than Nas’ period. There are two things that Nas has done better than Jay, “Ether” and “Illmatic”, and after that, the ball stops. If you’ve been listening to Nas since Illmatic then you know he was and is a huge let down. [edit]
Miss Info Reply:
August 27th, 2009 at 10:03 pm
Triune….one last time, if you can’t self-edit or just plain leave out the f- slurs and p slurs, I’m not gonna waste my time editing them myself, I’ll just click delete. You posted a perfectly opinionated comment without those 2 words. please do the same moving forward. thanks.
mr rythm Reply:
August 26th, 2009 at 3:55 pm
I feel u, but can u tell me three hiphop artist that is worth yo hard earned money?
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Kenny_Goodtimes Reply:
August 26th, 2009 at 5:49 pm
I’m a Nas fan and I back that up with numerous concerts I’ve gone to and I’ve purchased all the albums UNFORTUNATELY! so let me say it as plain as jane Nas’s albums in the last 10 years have been trash every single one of them he’s good for a few singles that get you all excited maybe this is the next illmatic or I’ll even take It was Written but then the reality hits and all we get is nastradamus and god’s son streets disciple even hip hop is dead & I am and all the rest all trash as whole albums. Not one cohesive album in the mix god forbid the man learn how to write a fucking hook too and don’t come to me with that back pack bull shit it’s about the lyrics not the hook your wrong its about a whole song lyrics beats and hook and Nas recently can only manage 1/3rd of the equation which is why his success will never meet his talent level. and don’t come to me with that I’m on some hate bullshit cause you all know I’m right we all go to see Nas if we do go to the shows or we all listen to Nas albums to hear the the songs on illmatitic, maybe alittle if i ruled the world and then nas is llike and maybe 2 other songs nothing he’s done recently has any real impact or lasting power like I said in another post his album titles are now more interesting then his albums Hip-Hop is dead, the Untitled(Nigger) album titles are more talked about then what’s actually on those albums.
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anelka Reply:
August 27th, 2009 at 6:08 am
dumb ass,u r def hating n prolly dnt knw anything abt real hiphop,Godsson,Iam,hiphop is dead,street disciple,nigga r all garbage,lmao.u r one pathetic ignoramus hater.nuff said.
Triune Reply:
August 27th, 2009 at 11:07 am
Amen! Preach!
mertz Reply:
August 26th, 2009 at 11:42 pm
rakim, nas, and i’m having a hard time picking a third. i’m trying to choose between scarface, pac, biggie, krs-one, big l, gza…is there a timeline limit? if not i would definately spend money on all those dude and more. not many people know but i love hip hop!
oh and preach kenny goodtimes.
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DaTruth Reply:
August 27th, 2009 at 10:05 am
They all get my limewire money.
http://www.e3global.net
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mertz Reply:
August 27th, 2009 at 3:25 pm
lol that too man. we used to use napster, then lime, then i gave up on downloading anything because i don’t want to be a part of all that…but if it’s out there on the interweb and it’s free i might just hear it or see it. it’s so so. the industry is sad for real.
EMCEEMD Reply:
August 26th, 2009 at 9:01 pm
You guys have got to be joking me about Nas. Firstly, Nas’ last album was his most poignant. He stayed on track and delivered a message that needed to be talked about even though he knew he was goin against the grain.
What about God’s son and Lost tapes??
Both albums were bangin
True hiphop is dead wasn’t a great album, but it wasn’t garbage. I’m LOL at “nothing he’s done recently had any impact” because it was him talking about Hiphop being dead that got every rappers panties in a bunch and dudes started steppin their game up. WTF r u guys talking about?
And are u clowns serious saying “I am” was a garbage album, umm are you forgetting about tracks like, “nas is like,” “hate me now” NY state of mind 2, “ghetto prisoners,’ “We will survive,” “undying love,”
You must be out of your mind, not many rappers can put that much heat onto one album
Get a clue hatas!!
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Triune Reply:
August 27th, 2009 at 11:04 am
You are completely right except for Nas’ I AM album. The songs you names were good songs, but did you not remmeber that the album had 18 songs on it? 6/18 is 33% fam. That does not make for a good or even decent album. That’s a bad album period! Plus can we be real for once, Dr. Knockboots and KISSING were absolutely terrible songs and lets not forget Nas in the video with a shiny suit in one scene and a fur suit in another next to Puff trying to be who he wasn’t. That’s a big reason why people didn’t like him at this period of time too. Don’t forget!!
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EMCEEMD Reply:
August 27th, 2009 at 7:43 pm
I would have to disagree about Dr knockboots and Kissing. But I understand your point, I just don’t feel that the other songs were awful. I think what happens is that when Jay and Nas and Em drrop average songs, we call them wack because we have such high expectations. But its almost impossible to keep up that high level of quality product for over 10-15 years. If anyone one has come close, its these three.
mertz Reply:
August 27th, 2009 at 3:27 pm
i might agree with some of your points but “it wasn’t until nas started about hip hop being dead that people started talking about it”…definately made me say wow. people have been saying hip hop is dead for as long as i can remember and nas was one of the voices there. he didn’t do it to be fashionable or in the times or whatever but he said what he felt, but he’s not the only one. anyways.
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Triune Reply:
August 27th, 2009 at 4:53 pm
mertz, i agree with you 100%. Nas is the person who ignited that conversation. don’t get me wrong, i ain’t trying to shit on Nas, he’s one of the greatest rappers to ever walk the planet. i just wished his bodies of work were better, that’s all.
mertz Reply:
August 27th, 2009 at 7:04 pm
well his body of work is good enough for me. yeah there’s some disappointments when i hear a track and i kind of have an image of what that song/music could have been, but i respect the dude as an artist, and that’s just me.
EMCEEMD Reply:
August 27th, 2009 at 7:45 pm
True indeed many rappers like Andre3K and Common had said hiphop was dead year b4, but the buzz that Nas generated when he said it is a testament to his relevance and the point was only made in retorr to someone who said what has nas done of any relevance lately.
mertz Reply:
August 27th, 2009 at 10:27 pm
lol look at all of us having a discussion without any name calling…or not like what i’ve seen in some of the game threads.
D Reply:
August 26th, 2009 at 11:06 pm
Have You listen to Relaspe?
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Kenny_Goodtimes Reply:
August 27th, 2009 at 12:54 pm
Glad to see I’m not the only one who feels this way I am a Nas fan I swear but the nigga hasn’t given me anything lately to be a fan about anyway thanks for the support peoples as for anelka sorry hommie your in the minority and just cause I have an opinion and informed opinion at that doesn’t make ma a hater it makes me intelligent and free thinking yes, hater nope! that’s the problem with people there’s nothing between “HATER” and “STAN”, It’s either completely one way or the other hu? People like you are sheep you do things and like things because thats what your supposed to do right Nas is a great rapper so I have to like everything he does, WRONG anelka not the way I roll I have a mind of my own and lately Nas’ music isn’t on it like it used to be.
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mertz Reply:
August 27th, 2009 at 3:42 pm
lol kenny. the name out there for people you talking about is concrete herders/thinkers (saw it a couple place but mostly dealing with people angry about the media nowadays and the whole birthers and all that nonsense) or inside the wall (referring to apple and their wall’d community)
Triune Reply:
August 27th, 2009 at 1:37 pm
Yeah, it was a let down truthfully. As much as I don’t want to say that, it’s true. Lyrics are always crazy from Em, but for an almost all produced Dre album, I expected waaayyyyy more!!!!!
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August 26th, 2009 at 10:52 am
I gotta say…I LIKE IT!! Hova Hova Hova!!
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August 26th, 2009 at 10:54 am
YEAH. I SAID I SAID YEEEEEAAAAHHHHH! That’s that Hov that make a negro want to step up his lingo. Word play was phenom.
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August 26th, 2009 at 10:56 am
telln u its timbo…he leakin them…coincidently…smh..time for BP4
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August 26th, 2009 at 10:56 am
why is jigga fiddling with himself???
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YouNG-FReSH2D Reply:
August 26th, 2009 at 2:55 pm
I mean if you were standing that close to Beyonce wouldn’t you need to re-adjust yourself?
The track has a 50 Cent, ” I get it in” feel to it, but it’s dope. Shorty get it in!!!
Jay Z said,” if I get a surge of creativity, I could make nine albums next year…” And why the hell not?
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anelka Reply:
August 26th, 2009 at 3:11 pm
stop being ridiculous,why d hell is Jay at 40 fiddling with himself cos he standing too close to his “wife”.
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YouNG-FReSH2D Reply:
August 26th, 2009 at 6:54 pm
PAUSE!!!!!!!!!!!!
anelka Reply:
August 26th, 2009 at 3:07 pm
GNR,why jay hand in his pants.got a nigga rolling.
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August 26th, 2009 at 11:01 am
that picture on the top.. lolol!
what the hell was Jay thinking? he’s way too old for that.
im kinda feelin the song. its ok!
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August 26th, 2009 at 11:02 am
this is a hot joint! I like this better than that “off that” and “reminder” records.
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August 26th, 2009 at 11:09 am
I just listened to this jawn again, the way he weaved the way a relationship works was crazy.
First Verse: They are polar opposites
Second Verse: Shows how opposites attract (ying to my yang)
Third Verse: Just shows how it was all a lie
Best Jay shit I’ve heard in a long time.
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August 26th, 2009 at 11:09 am
WACCCKKK !!!!!! Oh and this the dude everybody calls the best rapper alive ???? I cant stop laughing @ Jayz 3 wack song in a row ! nigga U struck out lol !! awh man leave Timbo alone hes a pop, radio producer, oh i 4got Jay is tooo good 4 the Premier’s, Havoc’s, Pete Rock’s, betta yet they tooo hood. He need a rich $$$ producer like Timbaland. And this is the result, water down hiphop hes making 4 Oprah and his rich white friends in the Hamptons.. Getting money is good but not if U have to sell ya soul 4 it.. Thanks Raekwon 4 making shit that made hiphop blow up , the Streets !!. Even 50cent still rep da real with all his $$$.. Jay it very transparent now that U sold out and went pop !! now go retire now and make some babies nigga, thank U.
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John doe Reply:
August 26th, 2009 at 11:29 am
He’s done premier beats in the past, and how he gonna do a havoc beat??? Didn’t he son his partner prodigy???
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Young Bounca Reply:
August 26th, 2009 at 12:25 pm
yo John that very true, him and Premo did work 2gether in the past, well thats b4 Jay blew up. My point is Jay need better production, Timbaland has a name, but alot of times his hiphop beats doesnt live up to it. And that Prodigy beef was 8 years ago, shit Havoc prob wouldnt turn down a check from Jay. Timbo and Jay make great hip-Pop records lol !!
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August 26th, 2009 at 11:11 am
this the best jay-z song I heard thus far cause he really goes in lyrically, the song is hot though, way better than off that. Jay can bring it out if he want to and still crush ya favorite rapper, he proved it on this. Timberland use to be one of the best, but ever since he stop working with rappers he fell off.
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August 26th, 2009 at 11:18 am
another pac shot jay? Pac really got under that skin huh?
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Miss Info Reply:
August 26th, 2009 at 11:22 am
what was the pac shot?
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Ballzgotw8 Reply:
August 26th, 2009 at 11:27 am
wrd makes u go for anothr listen…more closely this time…(ear to the speaker)
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DaTruth Reply:
August 27th, 2009 at 10:10 am
If want the answer that question you would have to go deeper than music and look and the illuminati and the sacrifice (Pac & B.I.G) you have to make once you sell your soul to them.
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John doe Reply:
August 26th, 2009 at 11:34 am
No PAC shot at all, u gotta listen carefully. When did jay ever go at pac for u 2 say another shot???
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August 26th, 2009 at 11:22 am
Jay-Z’s music is so wack right now, people will call any half way decent shit from him amazing. People have lowered their standards.
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August 26th, 2009 at 11:24 am
It’s funny how only Timbo’s beats are leaking
SMH
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Miss Info Reply:
August 26th, 2009 at 11:37 am
yeah, I dont think there will be any more BP3 leaks
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A.G Reply:
August 28th, 2009 at 5:24 am
Do you think any of those leaks will make the album?
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August 26th, 2009 at 11:26 am
I like this song… Lyrically he is on point…
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August 26th, 2009 at 11:35 am
3 average produced songs by timbo, 3 average songs lyrically. Let me also note that had this guy had the production that Cam’ron had on crime pays he would suck even worse. After seeing the run down of producers on this album its a completely safe album! he has big name porducers on every single track and is not taking a chance and swinging for the fences with none.
oh ps. someone plz tell timbaland that these days he’s better off sticking to making beats for nelly fortado and justin
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J.C. Powers Reply:
August 26th, 2009 at 12:14 pm
The Differecne between Cam’ & Jay is that Jay has the money for big name producers.
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MzBrittanyLUVZ Being The Head DipStan In Charge!!! DIP IN THE MIX. COM BABBBY Reply:
August 26th, 2009 at 1:41 pm
AGREED!!! LOL
But im feeling this new joint from Jayz. This is the best one hes dropped. And to this other dude…what does it matter to pay for “quality” and it still sucks. Honestly…Beyonce doesnt even do that. She will work with a no name producer and songwriter if the record is hot. Jayz is working with the best of everything and dropping mediocre music. idk how to call it.
Jockin Jayz and all those other songs he released before were better than this. whats good?
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August 26th, 2009 at 11:37 am
Much better Shawn Corey…
But that ain’t really saying much considering those “dryer sheet” songs we were given earlier. For those that don’t know, AUFBRAND considers a “dryer sheet” as a song that you listen to once, then throw it away.
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August 26th, 2009 at 11:39 am
Fux wit’ it…
Jay the witty MC still exists, at least that’s a good thing.
What’s up w/ these half-ass hooks tho’. I don’t need dude to go all Mobb Deep with the hook and get all wordy, but you gonna tell me he couldn’t think up anything better than “shawty get it in”?
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August 26th, 2009 at 11:45 am
On 2nd listen, I think this is a good concept song. Even jay-z needs some album cuts.
Remember when jay-z was spelled in all lowercase letters and he had those silly dots over the “y?” Whatever happened to that? Why did his name require diacritics and now does not?
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August 26th, 2009 at 11:48 am
“We was supposed to Takeover, I caught her bumping ETHER”
…first time I ever heard Jay refer to Ether by name.
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Young Bounca Reply:
August 26th, 2009 at 12:47 pm
wasup Queens ?? naw Jay said ether quite a few times, U remember on that Jim Jones diss he said “The Jones can’t keep up/Maybe my nigga Nas, but I got stronger after Ether/” I know it hurted him2 say it but he did.. I dont know y he said Takeova here, everybody know Ether is better lol !!
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mr_wayne Reply:
August 27th, 2009 at 12:43 am
Silence!
Takeover>Ether. He bodied 3 or more Hip Hop acts in that song. Nas only went in on one. Jay-Z broke down Nas’ career as if he were Wikipedia himself. Ether sounds opinionated. Takeover sounds more fact oriented.
Ether>Super Ugly. A rushed come back that CLEARLY after Takeover, wasn’t needed. The reason why many think Nas won.
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August 26th, 2009 at 11:54 am
SMH… “HELLO HUSTLEMAN!”
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August 26th, 2009 at 11:58 am
This song is fire, if you don’t like it so what he don’t care, word to DJ EZ Rock, Timbo, control your camp, and these songs may get replaced, good thing they switched that first single up, didn’t Wayne say, just put Drake on the hook, people don’t always like, I guess, I like will buy and so will about 500k people, and Def Jam will not have to buy any records
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Evil_D Reply:
August 26th, 2009 at 4:05 pm
Jay isn’t under Def Jam…
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August 26th, 2009 at 12:01 pm
He did say, So many flows, this one for this song.
I give this 5 stars, The tags are pissing me off like a Clue tape. Do remember ber ber ber
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August 26th, 2009 at 12:08 pm
this song is hot..everytime i listen to it
i hear something diffrent..thats hiphop! its like illmatic im still peeping new shyt to this day..to all the haters its time 4 evolution..get with the new paradigm.
Jay dropping blueprint 3 on 9/11
the boy getting deep..pay attention
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August 26th, 2009 at 12:26 pm
lol at the pic, I guess thats why Jay-z and Beyonce never show affection in public Jay-z don’t know how to act.
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anelka Reply:
August 26th, 2009 at 3:18 pm
that pic really got a nigga rolling.jay hand in his pants cos he too close to his wife.wat d fuck.
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mertz Reply:
August 27th, 2009 at 3:43 pm
dude you going to point this out a hundred times?
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August 26th, 2009 at 12:46 pm
Finally a song i like. First one since D.O.A.
As far as the pic. She obviously telling him something he liking.
Shit she could tell me to take the trash out and i would be the same way. lol
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August 26th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
Jay u aint the best. fuck billboard and number 1 charts nigga, jus because u got billboard dont means u got the streets, the streets is headquarters nigga, fucka billboard chart, the streets made u nigga. Lyrically u are repetitive. Same money talk since 96 where’s da creativity ?? U lost the lyrical battle with Nas in 01 nigga u 4got please Jay those charts dont fly in the hood lol. Ok u filthy rich but u are broke in alot of other areas, U got Kid Cudi on ya album ?? where’s Uncle Murder & Trulife ?? oh they to hard 4 ya white friends i know haha u a sell-out ima buy ya XXL mag wit u on the cover and burn it fake niggga. And u got Drake on ya album, omg yall niggaz need 2 wake up and realize Hovito is a lame, u the best ?? please the best sellout yes haha
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August 26th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
“We was supposed to takeover, but I caught her bumpin ether”
YES HAHA GO IN HOV. damn this feels good (||) i was worried about bein a hov fan for a little bit, but dude went bananas lyrically on this
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August 26th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
ps fantastic picture choice info
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August 26th, 2009 at 1:59 pm
OMG!!!!!!! Imo this has to be the most cleverist song I ever heard from jay man… damn this song is tight… now I’m more pumped to get the bp3 on 9/11… his flow is so smooth on this track and the way he makes every line rhyme is just crazy… that’s why hov is the best… point blank… period lol.
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mr_wayne Reply:
August 27th, 2009 at 12:49 am
“Imo this has to be the most cleverist song I ever heard from jay man…”
You need to brush up on ur music then. This NOTHING compared to his other catalog of music.
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August 26th, 2009 at 2:16 pm
This shit is WACK! Gosh, if he believes he is so great then why does he keep going out of his way to prove it (i.e. another wack album)? STFD. You will NEVER be great Shawn. You will ALWAYS and FOREVER be in B.I.G shadow. Damn. What a loser. You sold out and shitted on everybody that was supposed to be your people just so you could climb to the top. Damn Judas.
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Evil_D Reply:
August 26th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
Jaz-O is that you? You still bitter my dude, it’s time to stop crying and go get yours.
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circus Reply:
August 26th, 2009 at 6:10 pm
lol…i was thinking the same thing….how can any1 call a multi platinum, mulit grammy winner, multi , multi, multi millionaire a loser????…
u may not like his current sh*t but i mean c’mon dude….Jay’s on yachts an G5’s….ur on a mac…..nuff said.
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August 26th, 2009 at 2:20 pm
WHOEVER DESIGNED THAT COVER STOLE THE ENTIRE IDEA, FROM THE JIM JONES ARTIST ALBUM: MEL MATRIX “RED APPLES FALLING” COVER. GOOGLE IT. EVERYTHING IS STOLEN. THAT IS TRIFELING AND FUCKED UP. TYPICAL JIGGA
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Evil_D Reply:
August 26th, 2009 at 4:23 pm
Are you really that dumb.The Jay cover is Jay in the middle, a car in the back.The Mel Matrix cover is Mel Matrix in the middle, a car in the back.The artist that did the Jay cover definitely stole his idea from the dude who did the Mel Matrix cover(sarcasm).They both are hip hop cliché covers.You have to be a complete idiots to think one was stolen from the other.
Yo son, DanceHall 8 stole it’s cover from Passa Passa son.If you google Passa Passa you will see three chick with their asses out.Now google DanceHall 8 and watch what you see, yeah son, three chicks with their asses out.Hahahahaha…..moron
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Ballzgotw8 Reply:
August 26th, 2009 at 4:48 pm
LMMFAO!!!!!!!!!! OR WEN U GO 2 A PIZZA SHOP & THEY PUT IT IN A BOX…THEN NEX PIZZA SHOP GOT SAME BOX BUT DIFF COLORS SON!!! THEY DEF STEALIN IDEAS OUT HERE…SMH GOOD 1
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Evil_D Reply:
August 26th, 2009 at 7:33 pm
Hahahaha
August 26th, 2009 at 3:25 pm
this is a cool song,def better than run this town,D.O.A still d best.OLD ass Jay z dont know out to act,his hands in his pants cos he too close to his “wife”.Hope he dnt kneel down n beg b4 he hits dat gucci at home.GNR.
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August 26th, 2009 at 3:27 pm
I feel like Timbaland wasted some good beats.
http://www.e3global.net
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August 26th, 2009 at 3:43 pm
thanks info. i didn’t even have to get far into this before i knew i liked it and that was even before i heard the vocals or listened to the lyrics. i like the slow temple cripple beat…kinda like hitting two drumsticks together. i like that better than the other ones i heard on this site recently. and i agree with him. I LOVE SPORTS CENTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!! that’s one of the only things i love about espn, so espn although i watch you a lot and i may hate you for supporting bullriding, golf, and all other sorts of nonsense let it be known that i ride and die by sports center in all the locales and all the different languages.
lol at the pic info.
the dude posting under realist, comment had me in stiches. man. read a little.
why did he get timbaland producing for him. if this is all i have to look forward to for this album i do not give a f’ and i am not going to buy this. it would have been better if they hadn’t leaked nothing so i could indulge in my ignorance.
i wonder if he listens to a lot of beatles interviews when they were talking about why they were playing so many shows and recording so much material. good info to be found in some of those interviews which are hilarious once you also realize how much the beatles stole from other artists. oh well i am one myself so i know it’s hard to be original in your art without learning from something first.
when’s this issue coming out?
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August 26th, 2009 at 4:01 pm
lyrically this track is ewwwwww… But this guy Timbaland just like does not need to produce for rappers anymore….
Like these beats with give Britney Spears or something a mega hit lol
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August 26th, 2009 at 5:10 pm
Man, that XXL thing is ridiculous. Jay-Z really needs to get over himself.
Can someone please explain how Jay-Z is the best if Nas beat him in a battle? If Jay is the best Nas must be super-best.
QB Bitch.
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August 26th, 2009 at 5:26 pm
I agree with Ms Info that it’s the best of the 3 timbaland leaks, but it’s still not that great. Neither are the rhymes. I’d have to lower my standards considerably to think this was a great song.
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mertz Reply:
August 26th, 2009 at 9:17 pm
and isn’t this exactly the problem? like we expecting something from him because the dude keeps talking about how he’s the best. so if he can talk the talk and then back it up, is it a matter of him backing it up all the time or like what he was saying above he means he the best back to back to back.
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mertz Reply:
August 26th, 2009 at 9:20 pm
i just read the D-O-double’s comments below your’s and from reading your comment in the Em>Drake>weezy>yeezy thread i know you have a good head on you. do you think we, people, fans, music lovers, hip hop heads, whatever people calling themeselves, etc…do you think we’re spoiled? or that we expect too much or not enough?
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Tochi Reply:
August 26th, 2009 at 10:36 pm
Definitely not enough. The game has obviously been watered down, to the point where nobody knows what to expect. There are no real standards in this hip hop shit anymore. If you don’t like a track, even if your reason is valid, you’re a hater. Everybody wants to belong. Which is SO not hip hop. Hip hop’s about being your own person and celebrating self. It’s about community vibes, expressing real stuff.
It’s fairly obvious to anyone who’s been listening to hip hop that the game is garbage right now.
The talent level, the production, the rhymes, etc have dropped considerably, thus lowering our standards. Let’s be real – this song is quite garbage compared to Jay’s good material or even Timbaland’s good beat material.
But because, in 2009, we deal with so much mediocrity on a daily basis, we’ll accept anything that’s a little above wack, even if it’s super mediocre.
People like me though get branded as ‘haters.’ Even though I’m not the one who gave hip hop standards. Hip hop itself used to have standards. I’ve been used to quality upon quality record, so for me to just accept any half-assed track is way too hard.
I hope that answers your question. I could say a lot more, but my post is long already.
mertz Reply:
August 27th, 2009 at 10:56 pm
lol naw. unlike some people my age with the short attention spans, unless it’s for some reality tv or video games (not hating. i don’t game (i’m a sega kid)) or whatever people’s indulgences are (mines books and music), i read and i ask a lot of questions. so thanks for answering all of mine pretty well. i was thinking about this too because sometimes i feel like i’m being too hard, critiquing everything, never happy with what’s out there or whatever, but that doesn’t make me a hater. trust me i know when i’m hating and i’m not reasoning things out, and i can do that effortlessly, but most of the time when i’m saying what i think, i give a lot of thought to my thoughts. i don’t just go and say something just for the sake of saying it. anyways so i agree with what you were saying in the middle portion about how times have changed and how hip hop used to be it’s own self check module. it’s always been about a community to me, and even when i don’t fit in, the music is what ties me in to the fabric. you making me nostalgic and i’m remembering why i need to keep volunteering at my local urban hip hop festivals, helping out, because you know hip hop has given me a lot, so the best i can do is participate and return the favours. i view critique as something positive that can be used or not used for improvement. that’s the way i always learned so i have no problem with critiques…i do have problems with people who just open their mouths and talk without thinking.
and you know what, while i was listening to this tune i was relieved that it was alright, but i also thought please tell me there’s gonna be something better on the record because i am really not feeling this tune. as is i don’t think i will optionally play this for me to hear again.
oh and about the ear for hip hop now and then, about the quality. i agree with this but i don’t think it’s all garbage. there’s some good things out there, but it just means as music fans, we just have to dig deeper and harder. you know it might not be the typical or mainstream and all that but there are some young dudes and even old heads who are and have been doing their thing regardless of the $ or sales. you know somethings not right when the $$$ is all that’s talking. i miss a lot, the time when i used to learn from hip hop. i don’t think i’ve given up on it, and i hear most of what’s on the radio, but i actually stopped letting hip hop be the focus. i actually probably listen to a lot more old things than i do new. i mean i can understand the “i’m a jerk” song but doesn’t mean i’m gonna be playing that for years. now everything and anything can be hip hop. oh well.
August 26th, 2009 at 5:27 pm
BP3-im-getin-it-G.O.A.T
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August 26th, 2009 at 5:58 pm
now that’s what I’m talking about Jay showed up there even Timbo finally did his job I like this one more of this please Jay
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August 26th, 2009 at 6:03 pm
Bottom line is this.. Hov still can’t be compared to anyone in the game now but himself, he’s shown growth from day one and haters hated it since In my lifetime vol 1! He’s on top of the game and he basically does and says whatever he feels at this point. Not many rappers in the game now can do that. We’ll probably appreciate em more when he’s gone but some of the hate out here is ridiculous… Name 5 artist putting out better music right now?
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Tochi Reply:
August 26th, 2009 at 10:44 pm
5 might be alot, but I can name Ghostface right off the top of my head.
His “Baby” track is way better than ANYTHING I’ve heard off Blueprint 3.
except for maybe Jockin JayZ, but that wasn’t for BP3.
Raekwon’s been dropping mixtape records that are way better than anything Jay’s dropped in the last 2 years or so. Listen to “Kids That Rich” or “Blue Eagles” (aka “Flawless Crowns”) or “Olympus”
Method Man and Redman’s “Blackout” wasn’t great by any means, but there are records on there that are way better than anything from BP3 so far. Check “This iz 4 My Smokers”. Even for a pop record, “Hey Zulu” kills DOA, Run This Garbage, etc.
so that’s 4….
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mertz Reply:
August 27th, 2009 at 3:46 pm
i agree with the raekwon and ghost pics. you know somethings good when you her people playing it on the block for extended amount of time. i’m kinda scared i’m going to be disappointed with blueprint 3, but i don’t know why i am so expectant with this record. i should just give it up and enjoy the experience.
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August 26th, 2009 at 6:06 pm
F*ck the music for a second……thats one of the hardest XXL covers in a minute.
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August 26th, 2009 at 6:07 pm
Jay = One of the best EVER.
Bicker on.
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August 26th, 2009 at 6:18 pm
QUESTION…IS JAYZ A NARCISSIST???
According to The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM), narcissism is defined as “a pervasive pattern of grandiosity, need for admiration, and a lack of empathy.”
The narcissist is described as turning inward for gratification rather than depending on others and as being excessively preoccupied with issues of personal adequacy, power, and prestige. Narcissistic personality disorder is closely linked to self-centeredness. It is also colloquially referred to as “the God complex.”
True narcissists (like Barack Obama, Jay Z, Jermaine Dupri and Sean Combs, for example) will display 5 or more of the following behaviors and character traits:
•Has a grandiose sense of self-importance
•Requires excessive admiration
•Has a sense of entitlement
•Is interpersonally exploitative
•Lacks empathy
•Is often envious of others or believes others are envious of him or her
•Shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes
•Is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty or ideal love (megalomania)
•Believes they are “special” and can only be understood by, or should associate with, people (or institutions) who are also “special” or of high status
What do you say…Does Jay-Z fit the criteria?
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Evil_D Reply:
August 26th, 2009 at 7:36 pm
If he is, he just like the majority of successful Businessmen.
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mr_wayne Reply:
August 27th, 2009 at 12:59 am
How about WHO CARES? 90% of Hip Hop artists fall under this criteria.
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mertz Reply:
August 27th, 2009 at 7:07 pm
it’s not just a hip hop thing…artists in general too.
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Mr-Grease Reply:
August 27th, 2009 at 6:16 am
Talk about the POT calling the KETTLE Black.
I don’t know you ma but that whole criteria is how you come across
“MzBrittanyLUVZ All Her Haterz!!” ???!!!
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MzBrittanyLUVZ All Her Haterz!! Reply:
August 27th, 2009 at 6:27 pm
You Mad? First Off, that was a copy/paste for “Sandra Roses” blog i thought was funny. Thats why I put it here.
And yes…I do have a few haterz and i want them to know how much they mean to me. You mad?
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August 26th, 2009 at 6:24 pm
SO THIS IS WHAT HE IS KILLING AUTOTUNE WITH….LOL
Try again hov….
get violent huh???
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MzBrittanyLUVZ All Her Haterz!! Reply:
August 26th, 2009 at 8:50 pm
LOL
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mertz Reply:
August 26th, 2009 at 9:21 pm
this was funny. i know i’m stating the obvious but for real i wasn’t even thinking about that. good comment.
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August 26th, 2009 at 6:43 pm
wow….im happy that hov didnt let timbo produce his whole album or he would catch a brickk earllyy(and its still possible wit the damage tim done so farr)…tim should stick to pop and r&B..ill rather take more pharrrel beats on this album….hopefully kanye make up for these weak tracks. if venus vs mars…was replaced wit “youre welcome” wit mary j….and he put “history” on bp3 i would think he was boutta drop some crazy shit…..”run this town”,”DOA”,”Youre Welcome”,”History”…undeniable combo of music
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mertz Reply:
August 26th, 2009 at 9:24 pm
i got nothing against the dude timbaland, but i’m agreeing with you and everyone else saying the same thing. i think he should have had other other producers or left those tracks off the album. i’ll be interested to hear him talk about all the prerecording and what happened here and there cause i want to know if he has more tracks he hasn’t released and how come certain things landed on the record. because if these are just straight leaks and not leaks to promote the album and intrigue the fan base then i’m saying this has ruined the love i had for this record already. i’m probably going to have to get this cd when it drops so i can listen to it myself but if i’m disappointed i will give it to my brother as an early bday present. lol.
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August 26th, 2009 at 6:45 pm
all blogger with comments please line up i think you need a reminder
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August 26th, 2009 at 7:06 pm
the GOD Said
Me I’m from the Apple which means i’m a MAC. She’s a PC she lives in my lap.
Yo word to mother nobody is messing with jay. his sub par shit is better than 99.9 of the shit out right now.
stop hating on that man and let that bitch breathe.
Oh yeah go cop that Slaughterhouse.
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August 26th, 2009 at 7:15 pm
nas > jayz
and i like jigga a lot !
but nas albums are underrated cuz not crossover so of course he’s not HOT in this term ; but lyrics wise and flow, he’s !
peace
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August 26th, 2009 at 7:57 pm
better than off that and Way better than reminder.
i agree with dude above me nas is nice he’s underrated and he’s not about that bells and whistles ish like jay is sometimes people say nas is wack because he’s didn’t crossover much so what!!
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anelka Reply:
August 27th, 2009 at 6:33 am
cosign,Nas didnt sell his soul like jay did,Jay is more of a pop shit while Nas is more of a rap shit hence no gimmicks.
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August 26th, 2009 at 8:51 pm
u sure this ’s a timb track? i thought it was a MGMT production?
is this song about rihanna or something?… or has Jay’s history of subliminal-rhymes caused me to read too deep into his music?
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mertz Reply:
August 26th, 2009 at 9:27 pm
10. “Venus vs. Mars” Timbaland 3:04
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Blueprint_3
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August 26th, 2009 at 9:13 pm
Jay goes in
Hov the black berry bold,
Shorty is the side kick,
She used to have a man,
I used to have a side chick,
Shorty got wind,
I had to blow the chick off
She got rid of him,
They both took the sh*t hard,
Shorty played the piano,
Me I played with white keys,
Shorty from the south,
Oh I think she like me,
Shorty like Pac
Me big pappa,
Screaming hit em up,
Im screaming who shot ya,
Im on that red wine shorty like white
Same ish different toilet,
We both getting nice
Me im from the apple,
Which means im a mac,
She’s a PC she lives in my lap,
VS 2
Whether black or white
We both like mike
We both like Jordan
We both feel Nike
Finished my breakfast
Shorty is about to lunch
Yeah we both eating its better than brunch
Shorty like pepsi
Me im the c0k3 man
Body like a coke bottle,
I crush it like a coke can,
Started at the window,
Ended in the back of hall,
The ying to my yang
I skeet skeet off
….
Vs3
Thought shorty was the truth
Found out she was a cheater
we was supposed to takeover
I caught her bumpin ether
I thought shorty like mike,
Found out she like prince
Thought she was Adrienne
Its been rocky ever since
My dollars were down
She left me for some euros
Took my whole flavor
I called her coke zero
She wants MVP like kobe and shaq
Left me for the heat
We would win it back to back
Said I party too much
Shorty got fed up
Shorty got Brittney shaved her whole head up
We used to make out
Kissing each others face off
For the ponzi scheme
Damn shorty just made off
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August 26th, 2009 at 9:14 pm
He touched on everything. Dude did his thing on this song.
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August 26th, 2009 at 9:23 pm
i choose nas over jay anyday…
but hey i think purple rain is better than thriller.
but yo… anybody who’s feels this track is wack is an idiot. the overall theme of this song is, honestly, quite ill. i can respect it. but all this is just my opinion, right?
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August 26th, 2009 at 9:33 pm
i’m excited for track 1 (more noid and empire of the sun’s singer), track 14 (big neptunes star trak fan), the swizzy beat (i wish he’d leak it already, and track 6 with the we da best khaled crew (love lee major). that’s a lot to look forward to still.
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mr_wayne Reply:
August 27th, 2009 at 1:04 am
Swizz Beats fell off eons ago. He makes the same kinda $#!+ consistently. TI, and Jada’s albums are recent proof.
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mertz Reply:
August 27th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
I KNOWWWWW!!!!! lol, but i still want to hear it becauseeeee lol my bros and i support rr & dmx. sometimes i’m like if i hear one more swizzbeats song on the radio i will order a hit out, but i can’t do that. he may have fallen but he can always get back up.
aside from that i have nothing else to look forward to on this new jay record cause everything else it out there. ugh.
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August 26th, 2009 at 9:45 pm
is he doin this on purpose?
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August 27th, 2009 at 1:19 am
I don’t see anything wrong with this song. The beat is nice. Lyrics were dope.
It was a few steps above those other leaked songs. Especially that Drake feature.
The ENTIRE first verse flowed so properly.
“Shawty from the South. Oh! I think she like me.”
Be real. Stop the over analysis. Song’s hot.
Hope the rest of the album is BEYOND this though. In comparison to the other leaks… tough to say.
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mertz Reply:
August 27th, 2009 at 3:51 pm
yep. that’s the hope out there…or else if they leak more tunes and do us all a favour and they suck we will not be spending some of our hard earned money.
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August 27th, 2009 at 5:35 am
What do you mean no more Jay leaks? The album will be online soon… although im not so sure i would even download it given that i’ve heard half of it already and its been terrible. I saw someone mention on here say that since Jay puts out the most “consistent” material he shouldn’t be held to a high standard for that material… what does that even mean. Sometimes I think Jay-z fanbase likes his music because hes the only rapper they know…
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HIPHOP Reply:
August 27th, 2009 at 2:14 pm
C’mon son….u serious?
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LT Reply:
August 27th, 2009 at 6:04 pm
I’m more serious than Kingdom Come, American Gangster, and BP3
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Charlie Onslaught Reply:
August 27th, 2009 at 6:43 pm
The album has 15 songs, and four have been released? Half huh?
August 27th, 2009 at 4:56 pm
Jay-Z = G.O.A.T!!! Oh yeah, Fuck Miss Info!!!!!! Hahahahaha!!! She’s a dirty asian whore!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
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August 27th, 2009 at 7:11 pm
yo info how did you let the dude up top’s comment get through?
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August 27th, 2009 at 8:29 pm
like jayz said people that comment on rumors are idiots… these songs are unfinished songs that timbo did that are not on BP3… yall people got shot memories… timbo came out and said he was doing jays whole album then jay said no thats not true he is feeling kanye stuff… all these leaks are produced by timbo and are being leaked by timbos people… “Im not gone give my best beats to jay, im gone save it for myself” quoting timbaland… so yall commenting on songs thats irrelevant wait for the album to come out to see the real tracklisting… yall forgot about dead presidents pt3 its no where on those fake tracklisting that was put out… this song is unfinished you can tell if you really know about beats damn… where you at miss info
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Triune Reply:
August 28th, 2009 at 2:05 pm
I think Reminder and Off That are going to be on there. Both of those are on the official tracklist.
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September 2nd, 2009 at 1:46 pm
I like Nas and Hov. It’s hard to say who the best MC is. I think we’ll all agree that both rappers’ best days are behind them.
Let’s see who has had the better career (fuck sales)
Let’s go album for album
Just so you know… this is my opinion
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Hov
Reasonable Doubt (5 mics. Undeniable classic. One of the top 5 or 6 best hip hop albums ever created)
Vol. 1 [ 4 mics. Some great songs (i.e. “Streets is Watching” and “Where I’m from”) and some bad ones (i.e. Sunshine). All in all, the good out weighed the bad and there are some incredible displays of word play on this joint]
Vol. 2 (3.5 mics. Too commercial for hood niggas. I aint like it at all. “It Was all Good Just a Week Ago” is a definitely classic track, however)
Vol. 3 ( 4.25 mics. This is the best “Volume” album from the trilogy. Tracks like “Dope Man” and “So Ghetto” are classics in the hood. The one bad tack would be the joint he had with mariah)
Dynasty ( 4 mics. Dope album. More like a Roca fella complilation than a solo. But Jigga was on most of the tracks spiitin’ some hard shit. Man, even Bleek had some hot versus. Damn. No complaints.)
Blueprint 1 (5 mics. Another undeniable classic. Best hip hop album of the 21st century)
Blueprint 2 (3 mics. I think this album is terrible overall. If he would have taken the 12 best songs (such as “Hovi Baby”) and condensed it in to one album it would have easily gone up a whole mic. In the end, too much filler tracks)
Black Album (4 mics. A pretty good album. Overrated? Yes. Good? Absolutely. A nice comeback after that BP2 garbage)
Kingdom Come (1 mic. I don’t care how you slice it… this shit is garbage. Fuck that “oh, he’s on his grown man shit.” It’s coaster material. I actually have my mug on the KG CD as we speak. I’m sending messages)
American Gangster (4.25 mics. This is a dope album. There are a lot of good joints on here. In the end, it is nowhere near a classic. People need to calm down with that classic talk. However, this is a solid entry into his catalog. The American Godfather by DJ SKEE is even better1)
Blueprint 3 (???)
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Nas
Illmatic (5 mics. One of the best hip hop albums ever)
It Was Written (5 mics. Many people say im crazy for rating this 5 mics but this album is so fucking sick. Break out yoru CD right now and tell me if Im wrong. This album is unbelievable. Before you young motherfuckers say anything, do a little research first)
I Am (3.5 mics. A lot of good joints (“Nas is Like”) and some mediocre/bad joints. He could have done much better. But at least he aint lay a brick on niggas)
Nastradamus (2 mics. I think that this is Nas’ worst album. This shit is just terrible. Yes, there are several incredible songs on there but the majority of the tracks are lame attempts at being creative. I think Nas was spaced out on some dust when recording this shit)
Stillmatic (4 mics. Boderline classic? Maybe. But this is certainly not a 5 mic album. It’s fire… but it aint 5 mics. That would mean it’s on the same level as Illmatic and It Was Written. No fucking way!!)
Godson (3 mics. I didn’t like this album. I tried everything I could to like it but I just couldn’t listen to it without skipping numerous tracks)
Street’s Disciple (2 mics. Terrible. This shit is plain ol’ trash. How you can make a double album and not have more than 5 hot songs? Anybody who ssays this album is bannans is fucking crazy. Get off of niggas dick)
Hip Hop is Dead (4 mics. This is another ovverrated album. It’s far from corny. But at the same time… it definitelty aint a classic by any stretch of the imagination. Stop throwing out the word classic so much.)
Untiteled (Nigger album) (3.5 mics. Maybe it’s just me, but I feel kind of depressed when listening to this shit. I wanted to go to sleep evertime I heard it. I remember one time when my girl was staying at the crib and I had listened to this album right before she came over… I got so sleepy that I didn’t even want to have sex with her. She thoguht I wasn’t in to her or that I was cheating on her. Yes, she is hot (Rican and black). That should tell you something about the album.)
Lost Tapes (5 mics. Though not an offical album, this joint is just bannas,. This is a classic in my mind. Every single track is creative and lyriacally off the charts. This CD shows why Nas belongs in the GOAT convo)
There you have it… a breakdown of two legendary careers
As you can see… Hov fell off after 2001. Nas fell off after 99. They both had incredible 5 year runs. Hov from 96-2001 and Nas from 94-99. You can make an argument of who is better but there is no clear answer. No matter who you choose the next person can easily make an argument for the other nigga. I honest believe it’s 1A and 1B is this case. Both these niggas are crazy talented. At the top of their games they are easily in the conversation for G.O.A.T.
What do y’all niggas think is better??
Please be objective as possible
No stans please!
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Triune Reply:
September 2nd, 2009 at 4:51 pm
Alright, I see you definitely are fans of both, I just have a different opinion. I am of course a fan of both. Here are my mic ratings.
Jay-Z
Reasonable Doubt – 5 Mics Classic!
Vol 1 – 3 Mics – Could have been classic had not Sunshine and a couple other “Puffy Type” records not been on there.
Vol 2 – 4.5 Mics – Jay’s most succesful album to date. Commercial, but damn near classic.
Vol 3 – 3.5 Mics – Not a horrible album, but definitely his worst outing in my opinion. There are some bangers on here but definitely some songs that I never listen to.
The Dynasty – 4 Mics – Good album over all, it was more of a Rocafella album than a Jay record. Good album nonetheless and it was good to hear Bleek and Beans do they thang.
The Blueprint – 5 Mics – Classic
The Blueprint 2 – 3.5 Mics – There were definitely some bangers on here, but there are tons of filler songs. If it were a single disc, it could have been classic.
The Black Album – 4.5 – If it wasn’t for the song “Threats” this album would have been classic. Great retirement album and way to go out.
Kingdom Come – 3 Mics – Album sounded rushed. The product didn’t meet the anticipation. There are good songs and definitely not so good ones.
American Gangster – 4.5 Mics – If it wasn’t for the song “Blue Magic” I think this would have been another classic. Great concept album. It was good to hear Jay over that soulful shit again.
The Blueprint 3 – ?????? You tell me!
Nas
Illmatic – 5 Mics – One of the best rap albums ever!
It Was Written – 4 mics – Very good album just a couple songs messed with the classic status.
I Am – 3 Mics – Definitely one of Nas’ worst outing to date. There was handful of good songs, but there were a armful of bad ones.
Nastradamus – 2 Mics – This is Nas’ worst album, period!
Stillmatic – 4.75 Mics – The reason I don’t give this album a 5 mics rating is because I felt the only reason it got 5 mics was because of the Jay beef. It was a great album no doubt, but not quite worth 5 mics.
God’s Son – 4 Mics – This album has great songs on it. ” Dance, If Heavan Was A Mile Away” Warrior Song,” and there were a few others. Defintely a grown man album.
Street Disciple – 1 Mic – This is the worst rap double album ever, period!!!
Hip Hop Is Dead – 3.75 Mics – I felt like he did an incredible job drumming up the conversation, but a horrible job executing the sound to the conversation. Decent album, but Nas is capable of more.
Untitled – 4.5 Mics – Loved this album. At a time where people were scared to talk about race, Nas did. The message matched the sound. Wish I could hear Nas rap on more production like this. 1 maybe 2 songs from being classic. I can listen to this album all the way through.
Distant Relatives – ????? You tell me!
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November 11th, 2009 at 7:20 pm
love the song! love jay! keep um coming
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