During this year’s SxSw, our boy Peter Rosenberg held another memorable Noisemakers interview session with a hip-hop legend. This time, he got Nas to open up about his career’s ups and downs, and spill the beans on all the side stories we love to hear (well the hip-hop nerds at least). I think for the first time ever, Nas talked about Michael Jackson calling him on the phone one day.

“I don’t care who you are, you’re never ready to hear that Michael Jackson is on the phone. I don’t care how it goes, no one is ready to handle that shit. He’s a spirit, he’s not a man. That was a spirit on the phone.”

Also, at the very end, Nasir gives an incredible speech about Jay-Z’s importance to hip-hop.

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