Tue 19 May 2009
Joe Budden vs Meth update #4080: Redman makes peace, Busta Rhymes makes war
Posted by Miss Info under beef , good for hip hop , not good for hip hop , quotes[35] Comments
Thank you to Sarah Conner from the Ed Lover Show again for this morning’s audio of Meth and Red, as well as Busta Rhymes….talking about…what else…the Joe Budden vs. Method Man debate. I think all that can be said has been said at this point….but it was interesting/frustrating to hear the two very different takes from Redman and Busta on the topic.
Method Man says “I would love for Joe to say he’ll chop my head off face to face…”
Redman is diplomatic, Busta Rhymes is less so
Red: “I laughed at it….My homie got this. And its gonna stay on a rap level too. It aint gonna get physical. Belee-dat. Word is bomb. My homie have nothing to worry about.” (lol….thats a direct and phonetic transcription)
Busta: “I think that was a very big disrespect and he mighta needed to get slapped in his face for it…I’m not saying that to be on no pro-violence thing…but there’s a fine line between dealing with entertainment, and dealing with being morally and principally disrespectful…and I think he’s disrespected the morals and the principals, as far as the fiber of just respecting…”
Previously:
Joe Budden says: “Singling out Method Man was in bad taste…I reached out to him”
Debate of the Day: Joe Budden vs. Method Man
Unrelated/Related: Smack sent over this clip of Mistah Fab talking about Joe Budden….at first I thought it would be in the context of this debate, but its not. Its just more general lyrical beefery. Also Too Short speaks on….well, his place in the current game…..all after the jump
Mister Fab Speaks on Joe Budden & Too short talks music

May 19th, 2009 at 1:40 pm
BUSTA IS WACK N E WAY…I DONT CHECK FOR SON AT ALL
WOULD LUV TO SEE METH N RED BATTLE THO…Y NOT??…N REDMAN TOO
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May 19th, 2009 at 1:52 pm
Trevor should really STFU before his closet opens up and skeletons start to fall out. Word is bomb!
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missinfo Reply:
May 19th, 2009 at 1:53 pm
shall we just all change it now….is “word is bomb” the consensus?
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May 19th, 2009 at 2:14 pm
Info post the vid of Joe n Busta…cant remember the name of the song…lol
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May 19th, 2009 at 2:16 pm
umm… its word is bond
not word is bomb lol
meaning my word is my bond
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May 19th, 2009 at 2:38 pm
LOL @ “Belee-dat”
It almost seems like folk are gonna keep asking the same questions and just as 1 person (Red or Meth) starts to calm down then someone else will jump in at a new level of “anger”.
I will admit that it’s an honest question to ask, if being behind a pc so much creates a comfort zone that breeds unintentional yet very disrespect/misunderstood talk from Budden.
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May 19th, 2009 at 2:38 pm
word is bomb!
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May 19th, 2009 at 2:48 pm
Enough of this cry-baby shit. These boys need to get over and just rap battle.
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May 19th, 2009 at 3:17 pm
why does Busta have to put his two cents in this …1st he tellin em to fall bak on mariah and now he talkin slick on something that has nothing to do with him…is it me or is he tryin to shine on wateva he can get his hands on…like dogg ur name was neva eva mentioned in this…also, it might just be me…but it seems like these ny rappers are a lil to sensitive these days…cant say nuttin bout nobody dez days cuz its like …ny niggas is untouchable …FUK OUTTA HERE U AINT UNTOUCHABLE get off ur high horse busta u washed up das y dre drop ur ass cuz its bout time u quit homie ur flow is ass real talk
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May 19th, 2009 at 3:34 pm
West Side Connection said it best on Terrorist Threats CD, with the track “So Many Rappers In Love”. They all catching feelings over nothing, the art of RAP is lost, Busta is lost for saying that was disrespectful and that he needs to be slapped. You saying anything challenging another Rappers style, swag or ability and there is a problem. I understood where Joe was coming from, cant say the same for Meth because i am not him but to get all sensitive and reply with say it in my face…. well we all know what happens next. If any publication or t.v station that supports Hip Hop put on a real tournament battle it would be good to see, let say Joe wins its not gonna increase his sales. i dunno but they should get back to being MC’s not rappers.
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May 19th, 2009 at 3:41 pm
Damn I am starting to lose respect from meth day by day, stop crying and put out a song or a verse, I would rather BUDDEN put out the first verse, so meth can attack. Shit I personally think that when two rappers battle or go at each other the ultimate winner is the fans, because both side produce great music. Pick up the got damn pen and write some shit you assholes
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May 19th, 2009 at 4:08 pm
Check out Billboard for the latest details on this story–Raekwon discusses the beef between Method Man and Joe Budden:
http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/raekwon-announces-linx-2-date-says-budden-1003974324.story
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missinfo Reply:
May 19th, 2009 at 4:13 pm
hey Billboard Magazine….why dont you email me the way Mariel always does about relevant and related articles. This is weirdly detached and impersonal
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May 19th, 2009 at 4:53 pm
I don’t see the disrespect in claiming who’s better. Every rap fan at some point has had a heated debate about what rapper is better than who. Rap is competitive, some one has to be better than the next.
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May 19th, 2009 at 7:06 pm
Did Mike Tyson in his prime say he could beat Ali?
Has Kobe ever said in his prime he could beat Jordan?
Has Derek Jeter ever said in his prime I play better than Babe Ruth?
The answer is “NO” and the reason is “RESPECT”.
Joe Budden is the poster child of what is wrong with Hip-Hop as a culture he has no respect. Disrespecting Melly Mel?? You can’t be serious. If Melly Mel, Kurtis Blow, Method Man and everyone that has made a bigger impact on Hip-Hop is above you in a bracket you take that pill and swallow your pride and appreciate the fact that you are even mentioned in their company…then show and prove through your music if you still feel some kind of way.
THE
LABEL
WHORES
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May 19th, 2009 at 7:33 pm
Its “Word Is Bond” damnit.
Too Short wasnt on no gotdamn Reasonable Doubt LMAO. That was Volume 1 & Volume 2 (Real Niggas & A Week Ago)
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missinfo Reply:
May 19th, 2009 at 7:43 pm
word is bomb, word is bomb.
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May 19th, 2009 at 8:02 pm
word is bond ( smh )
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May 19th, 2009 at 8:22 pm
The Meth and Joe situation is settled, no need to exchange bars verses e.t.c. The comparison in discographies it’s self explanatory who the victor is. Tical!
Redman is that dude though LOL @ “Word is Bomb” you should here dude say Artists he says artissess lol!!!
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May 19th, 2009 at 8:47 pm
2 short was on vol. 1 not on jay-z first album
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May 19th, 2009 at 8:48 pm
opps i guess someone posted it b4 me i forgot to hit the submit button the first time
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May 19th, 2009 at 9:07 pm
Funniest shit I heard all day…. Word is BOMB!! LMAO!! Miss Info, could not let that pass!! LOL! GOOD SHIT!!! Made my day!!!
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May 19th, 2009 at 9:52 pm
Post that BlaqPoet “HATE” shit!!!!
Don’t be sccurrrred…
Woird iz Bomb!
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May 20th, 2009 at 12:32 am
i think all Joe was sayin was the fact that he felt that he could be Meth in a battle TODAY… is enough to raise his ranking on the Vibe list….
all this other stuff is crazy….
But Bus definitely needs to hush
he’s the most un-legendary legend in the game
he’s not on anybody’s top 10
stop it Bus….
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May 20th, 2009 at 2:20 am
I cant believe everyone is talking about busta like this. Im not sayin that he’s the greatest rapper but give props where props is due. The dude is a legend…prime example: when he performed on 106 and park this week and performed scenario he had everyone jumpin..mind you most people in attendance wasn’t even alive when that song came out but knew all of the words…you have to be great at what you do to be in the game as long as he has…this is why people like joe buddens have no respect. It seems as soon as you hit the 30 mark in hip hop people forget everything that you have done. Hip hop has no loyalty to people who constantly give you some ish to bump year after year after year. Busta brings energy and life to every track that he features on…and is still one of the only true live performers…..respeck..yes respeck lol..yo elders
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May 20th, 2009 at 9:16 am
If Meth and Busta are legends in your opinion, I suggest you raise your standards. And as for Melle Mel, he is indeed a legend. But as for his respect, he needs to earn it like everyone else. He’s mad disrespectful. If you’re old enough (and I am) to remember Mel losing a battle 1989 and stealing the belt as he left, you would know of his salty & disrespectful ways.
That’s my word (is BOMB)! LOL
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May 20th, 2009 at 12:08 pm
I dont know why u [edit] dont respect buss’, u [edit] are EITHER youngns or soft, these rappers are ur favourite rappers rapper.there is no comparison to [edit] like red, meth or busta.these rappers were the first of their kind.
Im sorry to say it but American bloggers are destroying hiphop, by placing [edit] who have no credentials next to icons in the game.PLEASE WAKE UP, AND REALIZE WHAT UR DOING!!!!! JOE BUDDEN IS WACK, BEEN WACK, STAYS WACK…and if he ever comes to UK im pretty sure he’l get moved to for talkin shit.
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May 20th, 2009 at 4:19 pm
Budden will eat Meth up! 09 meth or 96 meth! We’re talkin about one of the most promising mc’s (Meth) that NEVER delivered IMO that classic album. Tical? Nah, be real! And Busta needs to fall back. Budden will eat him up too! Budden already documented the state of the game (and did it well) with ‘who killed hip hop parts 1,2 & 3.’ Joeys a beast and actualy has somethin relevent to say. If you disagree, then I guess you’re still goin of ‘pump it up’! Let it go!
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May 20th, 2009 at 6:36 pm
Busta can make a whole entire Arena GO crazy!!!!!! his energy level is out of this world in a concert! Nobody else does it like that man.
Melle mel should automatically have ur respect…he fathered an entire generation in this rap shit!
Budden would eat meth(LOL) Budden would say all the rhymes he’s writing now a days. and that’s it.
Wu(the younger wu) would have super beat this kid down just for sayin some ol dumb shit like that.
Red, Meth, and Busta would eat Joe Budden.
Buddens need to go smoke his newports and try and get that morning show hosting job back at hot 97! WORD BOMB, my nigga.
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May 20th, 2009 at 8:19 pm
Yo no.4.
It’s actually… ‘My word is Born’ Meaning my ‘word’ has been brought into existence. ‘Word is Bond’ comes from this original 5% phrase/lingo.
But I like that, “word is bomb.” lol
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May 20th, 2009 at 8:23 pm
U.K. STAND UP!!!!!!!!!!
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May 21st, 2009 at 2:56 am
Yo…Short didn’t know what album he was on with Jay???? WILD!
The conviction that homeboy (Mister Fab – who is this Del Negro?) had was wild, then for Short to consign it, just shows he don’t care. Its about the money. Actually you can tell that from his lyrics, LOL
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June 23rd, 2009 at 10:12 pm
Where’s Part 2?
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October 23rd, 2010 at 4:57 am
i think people need to stop jumping on the method man band wagon and sucking dick i admit joe budden was wrong in mainly attackin method man out of everyone on that list but fake music fans like yourselfs need to be careful wen u say meth would lyrically win a battle over joe because i SERIOUSLY doubt that. ive heard joe budden mixtapes and his latest album and my man is destroying people you faggots have no idea wat reall hip hop is joe budden would murder 95% of rappers in todays hip hop thast the point he tried to make but the media obviously are gonna turn it into a joe and meth beef cause its wat the media do and method man was shit scared of joe buddens offer anyway thast y he had to pretend he was angry and talk about disrespect like hes never heard of a rap battle before come on man take the dummy out ur mouth and stop hiding behind wu tang ur whole life i havent heard one solo meth album that i rate hes only good we he raps with shit wu tang members thast y he stands out joe buddens music makes u wanna kill someone thast how much emotion and feeling he puts in a track if joe blew the same time at meth in the 90’s i guarentee you all you idiots wouldnt be dissin him but because ur so hung up on the legend bollocks ur too blind to know wats goin on open ur ears not ur eyes i couldnt give two fucks how long meths been rappin entertainment is about quality not quantity let him rap for another 100 years he still wouldnt be on the level. oh and by the way reggie noble is the greatest mc that ever lived in hip hop just for clarification. peace from the uk and less dick suckin please
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January 19th, 2011 at 8:59 am
BUSTA NEEDS TO SIT DOWN AND RELAX THE GUY DIED ABOUT 50 YEARS AGO. REDMAN IS A LEGEND BUT IN TODAYS HIP HOP HE CANT EVEN TALK TO BUDDEN CAUSE BUDDENS TOO LYRICAL. AND AS FAR AS THE BUDDEN METH BEEF GOES WELL THE TRUTH IS METHOD MAN CANT TEST BUDDEN FUCK I HATE TO ADMIT IT BUT ITS TRUE. METHOD MAN IS WITTY AND GOOD WITH PUNCHLINES BUT U PEOPLE SEEM TO BE FORGETTING THAT JOE BUDDEN ISNT A RAPPER HES A POET AND U CANNOT FUCK WITH THAT NO MATTER HOW SNAPPY UR PUNCHLINES ARE JOE BUDDEN PAINTS PICTURES WITH HIS WORDS MEHTOD GETS ON THE MIC AND JUST ANNOUNCES ALL OF HIS NICKNAMES ON THE HALF THE TRACK ITS LIKE ‘ AKA JOHNY BLAZE AKA IRON LUNGS AKA TICAL AKA WILL AND GRACE AKA GEORGE BUSH’ I MEAN COME ON MAN ARE U GONNA START RAPPING TODAY OR WAT???? JOE BUDDEN MAKES MUSIC FOR THE SOUL HIS LYRICS ARE THERAPY PEOPLE LIKE METHOD AND BUSTA WILL NEVER BE ON JOE BUDDENS LEVEL OF LYRICS AND I TELL U THIS IF JOE BUDDEN CAME OUT IN THE 90′S THESE RAPPERS WOULD BE INVISIBLE NOW THEY SHOULD BE THANKFUL THAT BUDDEN IS YOUNGER AND THEY CAME OUT IN DIFFERENT DECADES THE ONLY THING IS ARGUMENT KEEPIN ANY OF THEM ALIVE IT SHTE FACT THAT THEY BEEN IN THE GAME LONGER THAN BUDDEN WHICH IS THE WEAKEST POINT TO THROW IN THIS ARGUMENT SO YEH IN CONCULSION JOE BUDDEN IS THE VICTOR IN EVERY WAY POSSIBLE
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