Mon 15 Nov 2010
Jay-Z on Juan Epstein: Why “Takeover” was better than “Ether”, what Biggie taught him about the downside of fame, and more…
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I love hearing a true conversation between hip hop heads. Creators and students. And that’s what Jay-Z and Ciph and Rosenberg are doing on this Juan Epstein Podcast. If Kanye was describing the convo, he might call this “sans jazz.” On Tuesday, Hov’s interview will be on the Ciph and Rosenberg morning show on Hot97, but this podcast was taped today.
Jay-Z on Juan Epstein (Ciph and Rosenberg): (note: if you’re having problems with this audioplayer, just download via the title-link. It’s worth it. I’ll add a different player soon. No thanks to you, Usershare)
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Couple things I loved:
-When asked if it’s true that Jay-Z holds grudges for things, like who preferred “Ether” over “Takeover.” Hov says, “Think of it as a computer, it has music and then you have other. That’s my life. things that I love and resonate with me, I remember. Things that I don’t really care about, that’s ‘other.’ And I could care less.”
-insight into Jay-Z’s work day, and Jay’s past as Ciph’s boss at Roc-a-Fella, re: “We tried make reggaeton work.”
-Jay-Z recounting his first meeting with Big Daddy Kane….during the time when Hov was actually juggling rapping and hustling out of town. “I was almost embarrassed to say I wanted to be a rapper, it took me a long time to do that…..I met Kane, he remembered me, he came to the projects and picked me up in that Batmobile Benz.”
-the banter about our Hot97 curmudgeon, Mr. Cee. LOL
-Jay-Z taking us into the friendship he had with Biggie: “After ‘Brooklyn’s Finest,’ I dont think there was a single day that we didn’t speak…I actually spoke to Big, while he was at the [Vibe] party.” And even more illuminating was what Hov learned from Biggie about the pitfalls of fame. I’ve gotten to the point where I hate watching and listening to interviews that artists do during their “promo” tours. Because they’re not like this. Just conversations that I wish I was there to chime in on.
Updated: Jay-z talks Decoded, Oprah, Kanye West and more (w/ Howard Stern), plus DMX says “f-ck Jay-Z”… after the jump….
Earlier this morning, Jay-Z was the guest on honor on Howard Stern’s Sirius Satellite radio show. While remaining cool as a cucumber, Hov managed to avoid falling for the bait and calmy spoke on Decoded, gaining Oprah’s approval, Kanye West, his role in Rihanna’s career and more. Jay-Z’s Howard Stern Interview
Jay-Z on Howard Stern: (Download here)
Jay-Z on meeting Obama:
“He sat down as himself, and I just realized he was a genuine soul and had a genuine curiosity. I think as community organizer it’s his duty to get in touch with the community. He’s not arrogant.”
On Rihanna:
“We actually manage her now. We didn’t manage her before. She actually walked into my office with her lawyer Scott Feltcher who knows Jay Brown —he works with me. When I met her that day, I knew she was a star. She was 16, and I signed her the same day.”
On Kanye’s Taylor Swift Incident:
“If we look back, everyone would agree that he was right. It was bad timing. It was not her fault. It’s not Taylor Swift’s fault. She didn’t nominate , she didn’t elect herself. She just sat there and she had a dream and she’s seeing that dream being realized, and he had the same dream, so he realizes that now. He was fighting for the integrity of the award, and he knows how hard he works on his videos. It was bad timing, but we agreed.”
On Kanye’s Bush comments:
“We all felt like that. We didn’t feel like Katrina was a natural disaster. We felt like it as an attack on black people. All you saw was black people on the roof with help signs.White people felt like that.”
DMX disses Jay-Z (again) [via UHTN]

November 15th, 2010 at 3:26 pm
best episode of juan epstein, ever.
i just hope it doesn’t jump the shark after this, though. lol
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anelka Reply:
November 16th, 2010 at 3:15 am
Cosignee, Jay apparently thinks we hav 4gotten n probaly thinks Angie has trashed dat particular episode where he was physically n mentally shook trying to hold bak tears n stuttering lik sick, cold kid. But alas we got youtube, lol.
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November 15th, 2010 at 3:42 pm
Like really 10 years later people still tying to debate this? Well Jay-z should of said this on HOT 97 instead of crying to Angie Martinez
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffDDbEJAEIg
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webstar Reply:
November 15th, 2010 at 4:51 pm
RIGHT?! I still can’t believe he was crying like a baby like that live on the radio.
Ether won, period. And it was decided by the people at a time when Jay-Z was insanely popular so it was THAT much better. This conversation will never die.
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EAST OAKLAND JAY Reply:
November 15th, 2010 at 7:18 pm
takeover was better because everything he said was true and it was a classic song and diss. And the way he used “The doors” sample took it to another level. “true” poisonous cut throat rhymes + great beat/sample + great hard delivery + going at mobb deep at the same time + spawned 2 of the most said lines in hip hop(we don’t believe you need more people & you made it a hot line I made it a hot song) = winner.
nas was just basically clowning him on his looks. The only hard hitting line and was true was “how many of biggie rhymes gonna come out ya fat ass lips”.
line for line ether aint fucking wit takeover.
hove said
we bring knife to fist fight, kill ya drama/
WE SMASH YOU MOTHAFUCKING ANTS WITH A SLEDGE HAMMER
When I heard that I knew it was over lol.
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anelka Reply:
November 16th, 2010 at 3:18 am
And wats so true abt bringing fights n killing ya drama? u must be one die hard stan.
dj tech Reply:
November 16th, 2010 at 4:19 am
JAY-Z STAFF ANSWER THEY POSTED THIS SAME SHIT OR SOMETHING LIKE IT ON EVERY SITE SO FAR
Brooklyn B Reply:
November 16th, 2010 at 8:16 am
dont forget smarten up nas
Flowdini Reply:
November 16th, 2010 at 4:11 pm
nas – queens runs u niggas , ask Russel Simmons … i went back and listen to both .. and if u listen to either , nas bodied jay-z … broke down the whole situation , it sounded like he just free styled that . ya’ll buggen if u think nas didnt rip it.
K-Dubb Reply:
November 16th, 2010 at 4:54 pm
Pretty much what I thought at the time but I didn’t lose no sleep over it like a LOT of fans…
People thought the “Carmen” reference was tacky but that’s hip hop. If you talking about how ugly or bummy I am & ya baby mama let me beat IN A BACK SEAT, hell yea that coming back in a hot rhyme!!!
Active423 Reply:
November 18th, 2010 at 12:16 pm
Anelka You must not remember 2pac came on telling Biggie “THATS WHY I F&CK YOUR BITCH YOU UGLY FAT MOTHERF$^($” its a point that shows no respect …If you battle and use the truth it burns more than someone fantasy raps I’ll kill u with a missile
November 15th, 2010 at 3:55 pm
ether won hands down!
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MagMonsta Reply:
November 15th, 2010 at 7:05 pm
Yo I swear you people are such idiots. Takeover came out september 2001 and blew Nas out the water. Nas tried to come back with some freestyles that were wack and then after like 3 months he came out with stillmatic and ether. Ether was a good track but if you look at the impact of both songs, theres no way you can say ether won. Jay dedicated one verse to that dude and nearly destroyed his career. After 3 months of trying, Nas came back with a whole song that slightly knicked Hov. That afternoon on angies show was ether vs. that superugly freestyle that jay z did overnight. If you woulda given him 3 months to respond, this wouldnt even be a debate. People just like to see the best taken out but be realistic, takeover was by far the better song. 3 months to respond SMH
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anelka Reply:
November 16th, 2010 at 3:20 am
in ur dreams, nigga am sure u were too yung to knw wats up then, just check out the youtube video on top n tell me if ur boy Jay was slighly knicked, niggas cant even admit d truth even if its rite in front of them, QB bitch.
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MagMonsta Reply:
November 16th, 2010 at 9:22 pm
I was a senior in high school when all of this happened. I remember getting on the bus that afternoon when Angie and mr cee and Kay slay and flex were in the studio talking about the super ugly vs ether. I remember arguing with dudes back then about how unfair it was to compare a song that was made over night to a song that nas clearly had months to prepare. I remember Jay being emotional that day but who wouldn’t. You had everybody jumping on nas’ dick like takeover never existed. I wouldve been upset too if everyone turned their backs on me like I know hov felt they turned their back on him. You playing that one part of the interview like that was all that was said. They were up there all afternoon. I’m pretty sure you had no clue what was going on back then homeboy (or what’s going on right now actually) And honestly who cares who won or lost at this point?? Where’s nas in relation to jay-z right now?? Sometimes you have to put the hate aside and appreciate greatness for what it’s worth. Jay-z changed everyones idea of what a rapper should/could be. Jealousy and envy are driving your argument. Let that go brother.
Brooklyn B Reply:
November 16th, 2010 at 8:18 am
not to mention nas had preimer and other guys in the room saying “ooh ooh call him a camel” “ooh ooh call him gay-z”
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anelka Reply:
November 17th, 2010 at 5:03 am
Yeah rite, the reason they put super ugly against Ether was cos they felt takeover didnt stand a chance, Jay and his cohorts ie angie decided to use super ugly cos they felt the carmem situation was gonna help them which obviously backfired, BTW who gets point for dating his rival baby moms?GTFOH..
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November 15th, 2010 at 3:56 pm
scary rosenberg serial killer face in the flick pls dont start posing like dave mays LOL
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Miss Info Reply:
November 15th, 2010 at 4:05 pm
Bwhaaha!!!
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November 15th, 2010 at 4:02 pm
Hands down one of the best interviews of Jay I’ve heard to date. Like you said, it was like listening to a normal guy who happen to became the worlds biggest rapper have a conversation with old friends. The Ether thing has me nodding at the computer in agreement-lol
I so wanted to chime in too
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November 15th, 2010 at 4:18 pm
I do have beef though – what the shit is Kay Foxx coming with about Solange? Are you serious? This is what the shit we’re going to talk about?
Disrespect.
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November 15th, 2010 at 4:20 pm
i still say either was better …
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November 15th, 2010 at 4:53 pm
This is a HELL OF AN INTERVIEW
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November 15th, 2010 at 4:55 pm
Ether was better lol its now a term we use when rappers battle and get fried “u got ethered”
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November 15th, 2010 at 5:07 pm
It’s always good to hear that man sit down with old friends (i.e., Angie Martinez, Tim Westwood, etc.) and just chat. I would much prefer to see more Info/Cam esqe interviews versus Matt Lauder/Kanye West fiascoes.
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Miss Info Reply:
November 15th, 2010 at 6:15 pm
thank you. ur right….and I’m gonna try to do more of that.
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Nightfall Reply:
November 15th, 2010 at 6:27 pm
Best thing I’ve read all day.
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Mike Reply:
November 15th, 2010 at 7:27 pm
I couldnt agree more with your comment. When a rapper feels like they can be themselves while being interviewd it is some of the best entertainment to listen to or watch… We only have a hand full of artist today who have a history which gives them a story to tell that better helps a fan really know what type of person he or she is. This may have been the best Jay interview I’ve ever heard…
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November 15th, 2010 at 5:17 pm
This was like The Best Jay Z Interview ever… Very insightful. It gave me a real in depth look at Jay Z. Cant wait to read the book. I working Hard to onday do a Beat for him. Thanks for the Insight! -One Room Productions
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November 15th, 2010 at 5:38 pm
I BEEN SAYING THIS FOR YEARS, its one of the times i looked at hot 97 in a bad light lol, They repeated over an over to callers that it was Ether vs Super UGLY, cause peeps would call in and SAY TAKEOVER was better , so peeps had no choice but to go with Ether vs a mini freestyle that was put together in a day and STILL IMO Takeover is a way better Track than Ether. Facts in History vs Name calling? serious.. lol.
AND (really the first time i abuse this poor shift key) , As much as we may use Ether now as a description , “Smarten up Nas” seems to always be relevant .
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anelka Reply:
November 16th, 2010 at 3:28 am
Get off dat high horse son. u and i knw d reason it was Super Ugly vs Ether, its was cos Both Jay n his supporters at hot 97 tot it had a better chance than takeover, takeover wasnt even close son, just listen to d youtube audio on top n tell me why Jay was so mentally n physically shook when he got ethered.I knw d truth is bitter, come on son.
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Trevor King Reply:
November 16th, 2010 at 7:42 am
Jay was the Kanye moment to Taylor swift Nas at that point,people were tired of Hov and was itching for someone to take him down ,Nas had the “win” early. and Except for saying Nas was the gay model, everything else was about facts while the other (Ether) was more school yard disses than substance, never a “W” in my book.
To this day if you play it 2010, Takeover STILL seems to be true…
“Till not mentioned at all…”
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anelka Reply:
November 17th, 2010 at 5:11 am
facts indeed, wats so factuall abt bring a knife to a fist fight,kill y’all drama, 1 hot album in evry 10 yrs when from 94 illmatic(classic), 96(IWW, classic mafioso, multiplatinum),97(The Firm, platinum)99/2000(I am n Nastradamus, Mulitiplatinum,500k copies 1st week).So wat do u mean by not being hot and not mentioned at all? its obvious u n jay found a new definition for hotness. Y’all niggis deal with emotions lik Biact***s.
Trevor Reply:
November 17th, 2010 at 12:08 pm
Yup I’M the one dealing with emotions like a bitch…. uh huh .
November 15th, 2010 at 6:31 pm
Is there a buoycott on the comments at the moment or did I miss something? Even a Jay-Z interview can only get 15 comments? And that’s a lot compared to the majority of posts lately…what’s going on…
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Miss Info Reply:
November 15th, 2010 at 6:53 pm
I hope there’s no boycott. I def enjoy and read all the comments and I esp appreciate when you guys argue (constructively) amongst yourselves, lol.
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John O'Rhia Reply:
November 16th, 2010 at 9:03 pm
I doubt it too but I just thought I’d ask in case I’d missed some drama or something (lol) because it just seems strangely quiet at the moment…
UNEBELIEVABLE interview btw…this is the sort of discussion fans dream of hearing from their favourite musicians…especially the way they weren’t afraid to tap Jay with things like “Ether” or “no shoutout to Chris & Neef or Beans”…regardless of whether Jay responded or not at least they weren’t pussyfooting around like Punk Flex or that sort of nonsense where it’s basically an ego-massage for the interviewee.
Ugh..safe interviewing makes me want to vomit.
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November 15th, 2010 at 6:50 pm
They repeated to callers Ether vs. Superugly because Superugly premiered the next day excusively on Hot 97. Everyone says that Nas is just namecalling in Ether but he had facts in there too. Jay-Z could’ve waited to strike back like Nas did.
I still say Nas/Ether win because:
1. The crying on Angie Martinez’s show.
2. He had to resort to pettiness, bringing a woman’s name into it. His own mother made him apologize.
3. Since then, he has never ever responded to the many rappers who call him out. Just subliminals.
It’s easy to look back now and say Jay won because of the state of their careers but Jay took an L with that one.
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pap3rchazer Reply:
November 15th, 2010 at 7:16 pm
COSIGN!!!
…n great interview!
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webstar Reply:
November 15th, 2010 at 8:06 pm
EXACTLY.
And anyone who says Ether is nothing but talking about Jay’s looks clearly didn’t listen to the song…or maybe did not listen with an unbiased ear.
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anelka Reply:
November 16th, 2010 at 3:33 am
D question here is if Jay tot Takeover was so tight, why did he hav to record Super Ugly dissing a woman? he n and his advisors so d writing on d wall n decided to go with super ugly cos they felt they could get points of Jay having a relationship with Nas’s baby moms(no points at all) which backfired.
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anelka Reply:
November 17th, 2010 at 5:17 am
wat do u mean by state of their careers, they both still doing their thing in diff ways, jay still d popstar he wanted to be, Nas still d rapstar he wanted to be,HHID and UNTITLED both entered as no 1 on billboard, Nas still dropping on an average of 2 yrs,still not doing kamikazee promotions, just dropped Distant Relatives,pulled off a successful world tour,am confused son, perhaps u want to enlighten me.
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November 15th, 2010 at 7:12 pm
Ahhh man. This is what im talking about. “Just conversations that I wish I was there to chime in on.” is the exact sentiment i felt. My big cousin turned me on to this site at the beginning of this year, aint looked back since.
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November 15th, 2010 at 9:10 pm
Jay lost period he had two diss songs the take over and sum wack song that clue played when he use to rock on monday nites on hot97 he played it that nite it got poor respones in they pulled it then jay made an a freestyle called super ugly witch his high point of the song was a line he stole from the rangers off of life in times of shawn carter vol.2 listen to the album nas did the same thing he did and was better so he won jay-z was proclaimed the paper king cause he buys tracks off artist member renagade was a em and royce track but they were beafin at the time so it was sold to jay an he took royce vocals off it an em still killed with out changing any verses his whole style is borrowed Jay-z aka the paper king>>that same year cam’ron was throwin shot at him on show u i’m how to do this son…… kayne west is better then jay hands down
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Trevor King Reply:
November 16th, 2010 at 7:23 am
Em explained that royce couldnt get a clearance from whoever he was with for that song to be officially released with his vocals on it. Which is probably why it was released for free.
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November 15th, 2010 at 9:16 pm
go back to the steetsweepers mixtapes and long behold u can find the origanal renagades track with royce da 59 and eminem jay is trash he buys hits for cheap and make millions off of them why u think no body shows him any love they know he’s wack he just a good huslter with a hot delivery only reason he sales records thats it thats it
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Really? Reply:
November 16th, 2010 at 1:27 am
Obvious you are someone who hates to use what little intelligence you have.All artists buy songs.The beat and a lot of the time the chorus comes from the producer of the songs.Your stupidity and your Jay-Z hatred makes you seem like a circus clown.Try doing some research before you attempt to vilified someone.If you look at the credits of nearly every Hip Hop artist album, you will see names of producers on the songs.Those names aren’t there for kicks, it means they wrote or had a part in writing the chorus.It doesn’t matter if it’s Nas, Jay-Z, Eminem or 50 cent, they have all had a chorus written for them at some point in their careers.Now go back to your hole and give punctuation and spelling simple words a chance…
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November 15th, 2010 at 10:12 pm
Nice to hear jay say at one time prodigy was maybe the best rapper in the game, then he threw some salt on him, FREE P.
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November 15th, 2010 at 11:46 pm
Ether makes your soul burn slow…..
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November 15th, 2010 at 11:54 pm
who is the host from the burbs doing the interview? HOT 97 use to have a street vibe, what happened? the host sounds like hes from a pop station. the book sounds interesting, im getting it
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November 16th, 2010 at 12:24 am
ether won with this line:
“krs already made a album called the Blueprint”
yeah he only talked about Jayz looks, okay keep smokin that ish,
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November 16th, 2010 at 2:22 am
The fact that ether is part of hip-hop lexicon says a lot about the impact that song had.
I think Takeover’s a better song but Ether devastated Jay-Z.
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November 16th, 2010 at 3:03 am
This is the best interview of any rapper I have ever heard, He was able to be him self totally. More importantly our interviewers understand hip-hop, not just broadcast journalist. Real fans of hip-hop, from completely different backgrounds providing an insightful interview. Such a shame that we cant get more of this.
Miss Info you need a talk radio segment. Live or pre-recored 30 minutes, on some Stretch and Bobbitto ish.
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November 16th, 2010 at 7:56 am
Have you guys actually sat down and listened to Ether? The first verse is dedicated to two things: Nas saying Jay isn’t one the best (in like 8 bars!) and saying that he (Nas) is influential.
Second verse is him complaining about being screwed over by the record industry but how he has a loyal fanbase.
The third verse is when he actually starts throwing shots. But, what I find funny, is that for the ‘greatest diss record of all time’ there aren’t really any lines any quotes except ‘Eminem murdered you on your own shit’.
I’m sorry, shit is wack on careful investigation. Ether is still a better beat for a diss though. Jay-Z won in life and his career. And Blueprint2 is the best song in the entire beef.
Cause the nigga wear a kufi, it don’t mean that he bright
Cause you don’t understand him, it don’t mean that he nice
It just means you don’t understand all the bullshit that he write
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anelka Reply:
November 17th, 2010 at 5:27 am
yeah rite, is he dame diddy, dame daddy or a dame dummy,/oh i get u biggie n he’s puffy. Heard it when i was sleep dat this gay z and cocafellas was beef/started cocking up weapons, slowly loading up dis armour/to explode it on a camel. How much of biggie rhymes is gonna come out ur fat lips/. Y’all niggas deal with emotions lik Biat***s/,my child i watched u grow up to be famous/now i smile lik a proud dad watching his only son made it/.Foxy got u hot cos u kept ur face in her Puss/girls,girls,girls.i can go on n on, BTW, wat more quotable do u want when Nas gave another meaning to d word Ether.Am sure u knw wat it means to ether someone,.lol.
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November 16th, 2010 at 12:55 pm
I liked Ether much better.. Takeover was a good song tho. Its just individual opinion on which you prefer,which i respect everyones. Sidenote: Rosenberg’s additional digs at Mobb Deep in this interview was a bit much.
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November 16th, 2010 at 1:20 pm
an arrogant and pompous man, he sold his soul, he even tries to pretend to be who he is not….
For all u americans that believe record sales and the money u got makes u the best rapper…yall so sad!!
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November 16th, 2010 at 1:25 pm
I love the couple interviews ive heard with Jay and these guys over the years!!!havent heard these guys in a while im in Fla..i normally listen when im on the treadmill, well havent been there in a while!!! will load the podcast for plane ride! K.Foxx WOW i didnt know where she landed after leaving Miami, knew it was Hot 97 but didnt know exactly where! im thinking she maybe shoulda stayed wtih Khaled!
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November 16th, 2010 at 2:15 pm
Are you allowed to say shit on the radio?
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November 16th, 2010 at 2:17 pm
so K.Foxx is the gossip queen! come on man, her questioning is for the messy blogs!!!
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November 16th, 2010 at 3:11 pm
Really?? spelling has nothing to do with facts Jay-z couldnt do good on a song that was already written hook an verses(renagade feat.eminem ) and yes swizz beats always has hooks on his beats same thing when you are a feature on a song he’s trash with a good delivery basically He’s the biggest gaffle ever now really tell me can you remember any verses from jay-z that were saying something instead of talking in circles thats why is puting out a book out that your going to buy im not a jay-z fan I’m a fan of good music an every album he has 3 good songs with words with no substance nas is a better artist then jay any given day listen to the songs they did nas bodied him on all of them hands down you do your research homie vol.2 the heart pump cool-aid line was stolen and he didnt even write it he reused it an a battle
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Really? Reply:
November 16th, 2010 at 8:09 pm
So spelling doesn’t matter…I am not surprise your a Nas fan.Pseudo revolutionary with a poor education an lack of respect for his ancestors who fought hard for him to have access to books.Trying to read your post is a nightmare.You can at least learn to end a sentence.As for Jay-Zs verse on renegade, who said he didn’t do good?What is the bar for good or bad when it comes to lyricism?And what the fudge does “already written hook an verses” means?Are you trying to say the hook and Jays verse were both written for him? Which would contradict your point.Or are you trying to say that the song’s hook and eminems verse were already written , which would be meaninglessly and idiotic to bring up.I mean really, can you at least try to construct a readable sentence.You hatred of Jay comes from you inability to understand his lyrics, but that is because you are stupid, not because Jays lyrics are wack.Just look at you post, it’s like someone is playing the board game “operation” and is putting two organs in one slot.
Lastly, as for a Jay-Z verse that is saying something;you can easily find one if you are looking for it.What you are trying to say is you want a Jay-Z verse with the pseudo political and social messages Nas uses in his music, which Jay has few of.So you’re right about one thing, but that is your own person bias, not the standard for what is good or bad music.
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November 16th, 2010 at 3:20 pm
Really???you are a funny person maybe a jay-z want to be its hard to tell but one thing know what your saying before writting a comment do your research on Jay-z the bigest gaffle ever ok thank good night good bye
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November 16th, 2010 at 7:49 pm
Ummmmm sorry to inform you Nas fans, but Jay Z has an EMPIRE, and where is Nas? somewhere paying child support…. LMAO!
Nas will always be remembered as a great M.C. that’s it. As for Jay Z, an International ICON!!! Refute that if you want, you’ll be wasting your time!!!
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Sad case of a bitter stan Reply:
November 17th, 2010 at 8:43 am
Are you apart of the EMPIRE? What does Nas being somewhere paying child support have to do with this topic? LOL…if a person can’t prove that another is better based off of the music…they try to throw personal shots. Nas and Jay-z perform at some of the same international venues…what’s your point again? Some people act like Nas killed their family member the way they try to attack his personal life as if they got direct knowledge of it besides the misinformation from the bias blogs/radio station who hate on the man regardless. How juvenile are the consumers of hip hop today? No wonder this genre of music is lacking substance.
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ChuckB Reply:
November 18th, 2010 at 2:20 pm
lol cosign…its like a lot of these people here are die hard brooklyn Jay-Z fans and can’t seperate a battle from real life, so they take it there. A homeless person off the street can win a rap battle if he’s got lyrics. Takeover might have been the better song musically, but Ether was clearly the KO in this battle. Ether won the BATTLE. Ether is like when you hurt somebody so bad they start saying stuff thats way out of character(Super Ugly), like when white people start blurting out the n-word cuz its the olny ammo they got left.
Oh and looking back, these first two verses might have subliminally started the whole thing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHjgzA9YdGI
Two GREAT interviews, I think a lot of people could learn something about themselves from that Howard Stern interview and him talking about when his Pops left.
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November 18th, 2010 at 9:19 am
EHTERRRRRRRR JAYZ SOUL STILLL BURNIN SLOW…. EVERYTHING SAID IN ETHER IS FACT REAL BROOKLYN OGS CO SIGNED IT
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November 22nd, 2010 at 11:15 am
why is this a topic of conversation?
I think people misunderstand the interview. Jay said takeover was the better song. I don’t think that he actually meant winning the battle…people need to stop misusing the word hate!
and I agree with people on the fact that money and status in popculture should not play a role in a rapbattle. It’s supposed to be about the punchlines..period!
People really get confused. Lining up behind either of those rich rappers. I admire both bu I wouldn’t waste a second catching feelings for either ones personal struggles or anything for that matter, but I admitt it’s fun to read. It’s like watching children fight over who is right mommy or daddy.
peace
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