Tue 1 Sep 2009
Jay-Z on Game and Jim Jones: “Competition for me is Nas, Eminem”
Posted by Miss Info under beef , quotes[85] Comments
In his upcoming XXL coverstory, Jay-Z speaks on Game and Jim Jones with the same venom that we heard in his chat with Tim Westwood last month….
“…the competition isn’t based on real competition. I mean, Game, I’m his fuckin’ idol. If you ask him and he’s being truthfully honest with you…it’s just based off his insecurities and, for the most part, pretension. That type of competition doesn’t do anything for me. It’s almost like someone trying to set you up, and everyone knows they’re [trying] to set you up, and everybody. It’s just dumb. It’s not in the spirit of competition, because he’s not competition for me. He’s not. Not then, not ever—he’d have to improve considerably. Competition for me competition is Nas, Eminem. Like Jim Jones? That’s ridiculous to me. So how do I respond to that? I can’t win. If I win, then they’ll be like, “See. Now chill. You’re a fuckin’ bully.” And if manages to throw a haymaker from the West Coast, then it’s like “Oooooh.” It’s not even fun. Like, before I did it, because I would diss anybody. Now who has time to do this shit everyday? But before, when I was running after the little fat nigga from Ma$e’s camp**, I was doing anybody. Anybody said anything. If I thought you said something. When I was running in the streets, I wanted all that type of activity. Nobody wanted nothing. Now everybody’s a tough guy.”
(excerpt spotted on RapRadar)
*Hov is referring to his lopsided war of words with Meeno, who was in Harlem World.
[sidenote: there are alot of typos in this short excerpt...perhaps the copyeditor needs a day off or a doppio espresso]
September 1st, 2009 at 2:39 pm
haven’t read the whole thing but i love how you started it straight off with the game comment. and you know you might hate jay z but it’s true. from the games own mouth he’s said he looks up to jay z a lot a lot a lot…so it’s only understandable that he has jigga’s name in his mouth, in his conscience so much…although he fronts like he doesn’t like jay-z because jigga snobbed him or something. i don’t get it because jay-z acts the same way to all the other rappers so i don’t understand why the dude game thinks he needs some sort of preferential treatment because he’s the second coming or he’s so good or whatever. i understand he just wanted a chance from jay and felt he got burned…but really game, you just have to keep this whole manufactured “beef alive right”.
i’ll be reading the rest.
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mertz Reply:
September 1st, 2009 at 2:45 pm
lol at this part
‘[sidenote: there are alot of typos in this short excerpt...perhaps the copyeditor needs a day off or a doppio espresso]‘.
do you get paid for your advice info?
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mertz Reply:
September 1st, 2009 at 2:49 pm
instead of saying preferential treatment i should be more precise and say this dude the game, wants some sort of acknowledgement from jay z. i think he’s already gotten that done the minute that jay z started talking about the game…so what more does the game want…who cares about how he dissed you. he didn’t take your demo…he didn’t give you dap or even look at you at the same industry party…he pretends he doesn’t know you…he’s not aware that the game has fans and is “worldwide”…i don’t care. the first 20 times the game was dissing jay z i had had enough. gah.
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September 1st, 2009 at 2:41 pm
EMINEM & NAS <<ONLY COMPETITION
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QB Reply:
September 1st, 2009 at 5:47 pm
Nas killed Jay-Z on Ether. Eminem killed Jay-Z lyrically on Renegade, and Nas/Em albums are 100x better than Jay’s albums. How the fuck are they “competition”?
Jay-Z’s true competition is The Game, and he should battle him. Camel is scared.
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Evil_D Reply:
September 2nd, 2009 at 7:20 am
Nas did get Jay with ether, then Nas sign with Jay-Z.Nas won the battle, but the war was lost.Matter of fact, Kid Wave,Nas original name, has been losing ever since.From his albums tanking to marrying Kelis, to get taking by Kelis in court.As for Eminem, I still having gotten one clear answer from anyone as to what was so hot about his verse on renegade.I’m starting to think people only were saying Em killed Jay, because Nas said it.As for Em album, he’s has one classic and a bunch of so so’s.Relapse made Kingdom Come look like “The Black Album”.Em has never been on Jay’s level when it comes to making albums, and neither has Nas.Look how quickly the public has forgotten Relapse.Even faster then they forgot “Encore”.Who is playing “relapse” anywhere, except for his legion of groupies the rest of the hip hop world, and most radio stations have threw in the towel.Maybe EM should have gotten the memo, Lady Gaga is the big popstar now, dissing Mariah Carey was pointless and pathetic.
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INOA Reply:
September 2nd, 2009 at 1:23 pm
Fam, if you’re saying “Hip Hop Is Dead” & “Untitled” tanked. You should kill yaself.
Hey Miss Information! Tell this clown how you pimp the station.
anelka Reply:
September 2nd, 2009 at 1:42 pm
its obvious u r a dickrider,better get dat dick out of ur throat b4 u choke.Nas signed with defjam not Jay z who was just appointed as d president.he dnt own defjam.L.A. Reid is d C.E.O n d real boss.Am sure ur lame ass dnt knw Jay is no longer d president of Defjam cos his time at d head was a flop.since u r so infatuated wit sales then Eminem is better than Jay cos he a=has sold more albums dan Jay in a shorter period of time.Nas has also sold over 20 mill albums without selling his soul lik Jay z.nuff said
Young Bounca Reply:
September 2nd, 2009 at 4:31 pm
ayo Nas won the battle THATS IT !!! Wat war are U talking about all that Kelis and his personal life is not included in the lyrically battle.. Jay put out a diss and Nas put out a diss record.. And majority of the people said Nas murdered Jayz.. Bottom line Jayz is Lyrically Inferior to Nas !! What do signing Nas 2 Def Jam have to do with who lyrically better ???? this is a lyrical thing Again Bottom line Jayz cant fuck with Nas on the mic Period End of Story !!! Ok Jayz is richer money-wise and Nas is richer lyrical-wise.. Cmon Evil d u suppose 2 know this man lol !! wat r we doing lol
QB Reply:
September 2nd, 2009 at 4:58 pm
Evil_D, most of the stuff you are rambling on about has nothing to do with actual rap music.
Nas and Eminem > Jay-Z
They’re both better rappers than that Camel and they both proved it. Point blank.
Evil_D Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 10:54 am
Let me rephrase that INOA, those albums didn’t tank, they under preformed..Better? Ohhhh anelka, you ebonics speaking retard, how little you know.Explain exactly how Jay sold his soul? If you go the “he went commercial route”, I can point to numerous songs were Nas did the same, but failed.And unlike Nas, Jay was never x a hypocrite with a positive message here, and a negative message there.If you go with the he left his friends route, I can point to The Firm.Wasn’t it Nature who said Nas left Ill Will’s mom in the hood? anelka, your whole post is a display of your stupidity.Nas sign to a company that was headed by Jay-Z, CEOs don’t usually make signing, that’s the job for the president.As for Eminem selling more in a shorter time, he’s a white guy that could rap.That’s why Eminem is the highest selling rapper of the 2000s, not the quality of his albums.That is not an opinion, that is simple fact.
Young Bounca, the majority of American voted for George Bush twice, so who cares if the so call majority “said Nas murdered Jayz”.There were people who thought “takeover” was the better record, there were people who thought “ether” was.
“Jayz is richer money-wise and Nas is richer lyrical-wise”
^^That statement leave open the door to this question, who lives the better life?Jay-Z is richer, more successful, seem happier, but in your opinion not as lyrical nice as Nas.Nas is poorer, he has to be currently unhappy, being shut out of his kid’s life, but he’s lyrically better in your opinion than Jay.
QB, lets say Nas won the battle so I can quickly move to my next question, how did Eminem prove he was better than Jay? Before you answer that, pay close attention to one of my previous post.Never mind, I will just quote myself.
“As for Eminem, I still having gotten one clear answer from anyone as to what was so hot about his verse on renegade”
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September 1st, 2009 at 2:42 pm
dis nigga is a fuckin joke wats all dis technical bullshit..if u a king cobra..then anybody dat tresspass..u strike..shut da fuck and battle..u da greatest rapper god mc prove it nigga
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Nightfall Reply:
September 1st, 2009 at 3:04 pm
But does he see him self as a “King Cobra?” That’s your definition.
Many people say the greatest power is never having to attack. It’s about perspective.
In many minds he’s proved for well over a decade now.Clearly he’s content.I think that request should be sent to those that still have many years to go before earning the titles they claim.(i.e Drake,Wayne,etc…)
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Kenny_Goodtimes Reply:
September 1st, 2009 at 6:31 pm
“If I shoot you I’m brainless, but if you shoot me then you’re famous what’s a nigga to do when the streets is watching blocks keep clocking waiting for you to break make your first mistake ”
dudes like nemiocon are clearly playing checkers in a chess world smarten up dummy maybe you should learn to think alittle “technical” LOL I can’t believe you labeled having common sense as being “technical” that’s gonna make me laugh all day today but anyway for the great technical thinker that you obviously are my friend ( sarcasm) I’ll leave this with you this
“Power is not revealed by striking hard or often but striking true”( French novelist Honore de Balzac)
Heres another one “Power is like being classy if you have to tell people you are then you aren’t” ( Margaret Thatcher)
Point is Jay’s got nothing to prove nothing to gain and everything to loose by addressing these crumbs so by not doing so he shows the ultimate power.
Dude could buy game’s, and Jimmys label contacts drop em re-sign em and shelf every album from them now till forever like it was nothing Jay-Z’s in a whole other league then these niggas he’s playing in the league madonna, Bono, people like that with real influence who do real big things that the world cares about not just a bunch of niggas on a corner in LA or Harlem or certainly not a blog Global Hommie CNN,BBC not upn LOL
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YouNG-FReSH2D Reply:
September 1st, 2009 at 3:12 pm
Seriously? Do you think every rapper deserves a title shot?
Like every bum rapper can say some sh!t about Jay and Jay has to respond because he’s legacy is on the line?
Then we’ll see rappers like Lil Boosie, Hurricane Chris going at HOV??!! That’s not wsup!
Even in boxing you don’t get a title match just because you box. Ali, Foreman, Mike Tyson never stepped in the ring with just anyone you need to build a career where you matter, then request a title match. Anything else is lame, pure and simple.
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CMW Reply:
September 1st, 2009 at 4:51 pm
Lol I always compare hip hop beef to boxing. Its like why would Mayweather/ Pacquai/ De La Hoya fight someone with a few fights experience. No reward lol.
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September 1st, 2009 at 2:47 pm
*crickets*
Why now?
If anyone accused Young Hov of starting drama or excuse me strategically deciding to address those beneath him before EVERY album he’s every dropped we would be wrong right? I bet I can tie all of his so called issues with an album release going back to the Lox beef! But I think Nas name was in the very first track on the original blueprint and on Gift & Curse now you take it from there…
But wait that’s only Fifty Cents as young 40 likes to call him…Jay-Z is such a bitch…Sorry but he just gets soooo many passes!
WTF!
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Nightfall Reply:
September 1st, 2009 at 3:05 pm
You really see 50 and Jay’Z’s actions as similar? Really?
Interesting view point.
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Big Reply:
September 1st, 2009 at 3:22 pm
What exactly is the difference?!
Jay dissed Mase for no reason..
Hired Beans to go after the Lox
Went after Nas, stabbed Un and put it on a track!!
Now you can list everything after that all of his sideways shots.. Jim Jones, Camron etc etc etc!!!
But those situations aren’t the same,right?
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Brooklyn B Reply:
September 1st, 2009 at 4:21 pm
jay aint diss mase for no reason’maybe u was too young in the 90s or wasnt listening to hip hop then
SMH at these newbies
he “hired” beans to go after the loxs,LMBAO
jada and jay ALWAYS throw shots at each other, thats not beef.
if u believe what u saying then who he beefed with during vol 1 and reasonable doubt or american gangsta and kingdom come?
matter of fact show and prove
list the album and his beef
now u can do that with 50……..its really easy
CMW Reply:
September 1st, 2009 at 4:49 pm
What beef did he have to hype The Black Album, Kingdome Come, or American Gangster?
Apart from the Nas beef (which he offically started with the freestyle at summer jam 01) what beef has Jay actually started himself?
And Jada started the beef with Beans. His diss came out first, Beans “Put yo hands up” freestyle was a reply.
Nightfall914 Reply:
September 1st, 2009 at 6:12 pm
I’m not the biggest fan of Jay or at least his most recent work or 50 BUT your history is WAAAYYYY off. So I’ll just address that.
(excuse the length of this post.)
1st) Mase dissed Jay first on the 112 Joint “love me”. Mase said “All we hear is platinum that, Platinum this, Platinum whips, Nobody got no platinum hits, …. I come to the awards, Quadruple platinum chicks…” That was a shot at Jay cuz Mase at the time was multiple Plat while Jay was still Gold.
Jay responded on the Volume 2 album with “Check your own videos, you’ll always be number two, …S. Carter, ghost writer, and for the right price, I can even make Yo’ shit tighter…”
In fact Jay explained this to Flex in an interview around that time and said the beef wasn’t that serious.
2)Jay hired Beans? Nope. Jay and Kiss were getting into it and Beans stepped in. He said that Jay is a “Boss” so Kiss doesn’t deserve to get at Jay. Beans lyrically backed that up On a Dj Clue Mixtape spitting. “…Leave it to Hov to X out Tommy Bunz” Telling Jay to worry about DMX while he handled Kiss. That line also led to the LOX going all in.
3)Jim, Cam, Dame i.e Harlem. That situation was NEVER about rap and both sides threw direct and indirect lines at each other. And how did that tension help jay promote he’s albums???
Like I said I’m no a huge Jay fan but I’m not going to make stuff up just cuz I don’t like him. Jay’s on top regardless of if we like it or not. And means people will have opinions and try to get at you.
He’s damned either way so screw it.
Big Reply:
September 1st, 2009 at 7:47 pm
Info, Baby, Why do they do this to themselves? If I said it then I can back it up don’t they know that by now?
Sauce Money for a few years since Reasonable Doubt
Un beef and ref during Vol. 3 1999 talked about it for 2 albums
The Lox Beef during The Dynasty Album 2000
Nas,Mobb Deep ref all on Blueprint 2001
Nas ref on Blueprint 2 2002
Jaz-O ref on The Black Album 2003
Kingdome Come Camron, Jaz-O and Dame Dash ref all over those albums 2006
American Gangster Jim Jones more Dame Dash 2007
Blueprint 3 “Game, I’m his fucking Idol” Why not settle this 2yrs ago? 2009
So there you have it! You justify as much of that shit as you’d like I’m sure a 50 fan can justify his shit but the fact still remains that no matter if its subliminal or direct (rarely) there is always some beef around Jay-Z albums.. Watch somebody tell me I dont know what I’m talkin bout and try to school me!! SAVE IT!!!
Big Reply:
September 2nd, 2009 at 1:48 am
Info, Baby, Why do they do this to themselves? If I said it then I can back it up don’t they know that by now?
Sauce Money for a few years since Reasonable Doubt
Un beef and ref during Vol. 3 1999 talked about it for 2 albums
The Lox Beef during The Dynasty Album 2000
Nas,Mobb Deep ref all on Blueprint 2001
Nas ref on Blueprint 2 2002
Jaz-O ref on The Black Album 2003
Kingdome Come Camron, Jaz-O and Dame Dash ref all over those albums 2006
American Gangster Jim Jones more Dame Dash 2007
Blueprint 3 “Game, I’m his fucking Idol” Why not settle this 2yrs ago? 2009
So there you have it! You justify as much of that shit as you’d like I’m sure a 50 fan can justify his shit but the fact still remains that no matter if its subliminal or direct (rarely) there is always some beef around Jay-Z albums.. Watch somebody tell me I dont know what I’m talkin bout and try to school me!! SAVE IT!!!
September 1st, 2009 at 2:49 pm
That’s true….Jay really has evolved when the never say my name battle/beef MC of the 90’s.
Although ROC/State Prop Vs. The Lox was classic.
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mertz Reply:
September 1st, 2009 at 2:58 pm
>Although ROC/State Prop Vs. The Lox was classic.
cosign.
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September 1st, 2009 at 3:16 pm
jays a bitch the interviewer should have asked him whats up with all those lackluster tracks hes been purposely leaking off of the blueprint 3. Thats whats up, competition is nas and eminem well at least both of their albums was better than yours and nobody call theirs a classic, shit bp3 is almost as shitty as jim jones last album no lie both were garbage so technically he should’nt be talking about jimmy. Fuck hov you oldass nigga fucking scared as bitch haha!!!!!!!! Oh and rest in peace Ted Kennedy, lets pass that healthcare reform policy in his honor please that man was a true icon not fake ass hov
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Triune Reply:
September 1st, 2009 at 4:29 pm
Only a fucking idiot would compare Ted Kennedy to Jay-Z! Hahahahaha! [edit]!
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Miss Info Reply:
September 1st, 2009 at 5:00 pm
more of the same, huh? thanks
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Lee Reply:
September 1st, 2009 at 6:31 pm
such harsh words about an Album that hasn’t come out yet. of course he’s “leaking” the tracks. thats smart move. I wish more rappers did that so that we can at least hear what we are downloading opps I mean buying….. I mean come on you don’t think that all artist out there has about 30 or more tracks and then cut it down. O and and as far as your healthcare reform not saying I don’t think we need change but to have the government control it is a slippery slop to a “Big Brother” control that is being masked as something that we as the people need. Wake up people whenever a person wants control they break you down just so they can be looked as a hero when they build you back up.
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September 1st, 2009 at 3:42 pm
Its easy to take the high road when its the safer road. I can see his standpoint, but he acting like dudes aint been questioning his talent for some time now. Especially with that suspect album comming out. And he says this while he jußt took a shot at joe budden after joey dissed him 2 years ago. Sorry, but as a rap fan that shit don’t rock. All these old dudes scared to take a challenge. Hiding behinds your accomplishments/accolades is wack when you do it to you’re convinience.
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Triune Reply:
September 1st, 2009 at 4:36 pm
Doesn’t anyone understand accomplishment? When you’ve done as much for rap as Jay has done, why should anyone have the right to say anything they want to you and get a response? The world doesn’t works that way sir. The Prime Minister of some 3rd world country can’t just sit at the roundtable with the current US President. There is rank involved even in Hip Hop. Jay’s rank is the highest in rap other than maybe Dr. Dre so no, Game can’t just get a response. He’s going to have to do something for the rap game first other than state how much he loves Dre on every record.
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QB Reply:
September 1st, 2009 at 5:58 pm
You are forever a Jay-Z stan.
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Triune Reply:
September 1st, 2009 at 6:35 pm
That’s homo! I’m a Jay-Z stan because I state facts about his accomplishments. So if I say Bill Gates is a successful business man and I say that his accomplishments shouldn’t be challenged by just anyone, i’m a Bill Gates stan too right?
QB Reply:
September 1st, 2009 at 7:00 pm
Jay-Z hasn’t done shit for rap. Just because he’s rich and he has more money than Game you’re saying he doesn’t deserve a response. Ridiculous and stan-like comment. Shame on you.
Anti - computer thugs! Reply:
September 1st, 2009 at 8:00 pm
QB your forever a nas stan, so what is your point?
Nightfall914 Reply:
September 1st, 2009 at 6:14 pm
You really see those that have accomplishment in their own lives vs those that don’t by the way they attack another successful person.
The fine line between opinion and over the top criticism says a lot about a person.
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yomama Reply:
September 2nd, 2009 at 4:23 am
yo dude Triune,thats word!!!!like people lyk u
who r honest and not these internet thugs
give this man his respect and acknowledge wot he has done 4 the black commnity does anyone
remember the charity that jay has done not only
in America but even africa,am so proud of jigaman!!!!stop hating start appreciating.Big up to TRIUNE!!!
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September 1st, 2009 at 3:50 pm
AT LEAST MR CARTER IS HONEST…NAS IS HIS COMPETITION…BUT EM…
EM WOULD MURDER HIM LOL
RENEGADE…TAKE A LISTEN KABOOM!!!
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Haley Reply:
September 1st, 2009 at 5:12 pm
Mariah already bodied Em. Em says her name after all these yrs (corny) so Mariah put out a major hit record. Em had a nice diss record that got played on mixtapes for a week. Mariah song at Em is still spinning on every radio station around the country every hour, every hot song list. Thats how you win a battle.
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BlacHaze Reply:
September 1st, 2009 at 7:37 pm
You’re joking…right?
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mertz Reply:
September 2nd, 2009 at 4:16 pm
lol. nah she said it more than once so she must be serious…or on something.
Anti - computer thugs! Reply:
September 1st, 2009 at 8:03 pm
negative haley em shitted on m/c, you believe m/c won and thats cool but how come right after they play her song they play em’s, riddle me that batman!
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mertz Reply:
September 2nd, 2009 at 4:17 pm
no it’s because obsessed is still on the radio is why mc won that battle. i laughed and rolled my eyes. wtf.
DARKAQUA Reply:
September 2nd, 2009 at 7:39 am
WHAT THE HELL YOU BRINGING UP MARY POPPIN FOR…BLAH BLAH BLAH
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September 1st, 2009 at 3:53 pm
jay said it best in streets is watching
“if i kill u IM BRAINLESS, but if you kill me YOUR FAMOUS”
what the hell do jay GAIN from beefing with the lame??? if he win you all will still hate
if he lose then the lame is automatically bumped up to another level in hip hop and will FOREVER MENTION how he “bodied” jay like he FOREVER MENTION “bodying” g-unit.
prior to jay saying he’s NOT TALKING bout the lame he wasnt making no news except for being locked up, snuffing his cousin and dumb stuff like that………..saying sorry to gunit, lol.
lets not forget gucci man “dissed” jay too so what that mean.
jimmy jones groupie ass came out with summer in miami cause jay had the song dear summer
these “guys” are jay stans, leader of his fan club and mad cause jay dont care how much they be jocking jay-z.
when u get older u see thing waaaaaaaaay clearer then when u young
it seem tuff to get drunk in the club and fight everyone and get locked up
that shit is corny when u hit 40
if the game or anyone for that matter want to battle jay then THEY have to step they shit up
screaming your old and retire isnt worth a response.
rick ross aint on 50 level but that line on mafia music was too sick to ignore.
when jenny jones and the lame come with somthing other then marketing ploys maybe they will get a response
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CMW Reply:
September 1st, 2009 at 4:57 pm
Brooklyn B…
I agree with all you said:
“if i kill u IM BRAINLESS, but if you kill me YOUR FAMOUS”
EXACTLY. Jay kills them “oh why he going after weak rappers.” Jay does nothing “Jay scared/ shook/ old…”
“screaming your old and retire isnt worth a response”
especially in his so called old age he still making better music than these guys ever have or will make.
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YouNG-FReSH2D Reply:
September 1st, 2009 at 5:20 pm
Co-sign.
Like I said before just because you rap, does not mean you can go at the champion. The same rules apply in boxing, nobody wants to see the champion fight a no name bum from no where.
The structure of success of /or direction of hip-hop has been influenced by namely Jay-Z, Diddy, 50 Cent, Eminem and Dr.Dre.
I mean how many crews try to replicate the Roc-A-Fella era. How many rappers try to sell big numbers like 50 and have a business portfolio like his, Eminem helped break down the racial barriers to an extent. 50’s buzz in 03 is not easy to replicate. Badboy has legendary status and Diddy as a business mogul brought reality shows like Making of the band, Runs house e.t.c. When these rappers try to shake shots at them it’s lame.
I will say this though, Jim Jones Vs. Jay Z was dope, i liked the all the We Fly High moments. Jay knows the energy that track had. Jim certainly ain’t the best rapper but I bump his sh!t regardless, i’m happy to see him in the position he is in from being Cam’s hypman to getting a deal e.t.c.
Question is should rappers quite at 40? Should rappers quite at all, in other art forms artists go on to record until the casket drops from natural causes, why not hip-hop?
Isn’t it time hip-hop widens it’s demographic, by having legends increase the subject matter and content in hip-hop? Who better than Jay-Z to pioneer this progress? I think thats the whole thought process behind Roc-Nation.
If you listen to Blueprint 3, you can have that CD play with your Mom’s in the car and not skip a track worried she might hear something that gets you a clap at the back of your head.
Should Jay Z ever retire, he’s caked up so it doesn’t matter if his material doesn’t average the sales of his previous work.
Fuck it, a toast to Jay-Z’s career and 50, Diddy & Dre to 40 and beyond!
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yomama Reply:
September 2nd, 2009 at 4:28 am
WOW!!!!!THATS ALL I HAVE TO SAY,RESPECT TO YOU
BRO…..U REALY KNOW WHAT YOUR SAYING B4 SAYING IT NOT LIKE THESE PIPO I CALL THEM INTERNET THUGS THAT OPEN THEIR MOUTH B4 THINKING
RESPECT TO YU BRO,
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Kenny_Goodtimes Reply:
September 2nd, 2009 at 11:17 pm
respect! I’ve said some of these very same statements on numerous comments good to see someone else on this blog with some from of perspective and common sense I swear some of you dudes really need to step away from the laptop and read a book or two up there vocab a bit learn some things so they don’t always sound so unintelligent but you youngfresh2D are the exception to the norm on this blog once again respect.
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September 1st, 2009 at 4:43 pm
Nas is he only comp, that’s it. Point, blank, period, No em, just nas. Bout time, but I can see y he would make a diss song for the game, but for jimmy??? What has jimmy ever said on wax in the form of a rhyme about jayz??? Until jenny jones spits on wax,and stops talking y reply. U already seen what he did to that ballin song, and I’m from Harlem. Jayz stop giving em all that respect, I’m sorry, he ain’t even reply to rick Ross, only mariah. He’s not on ur level only nas is.
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September 1st, 2009 at 5:13 pm
Mariah bodies Em
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BlacHaze Reply:
September 1st, 2009 at 7:40 pm
Yea…you are kidding, lol.
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September 1st, 2009 at 5:33 pm
So Hov basically sayin there are only like 3 rappers big enough to beef with him? Like only dudes with money? Since theres only like 5 rappers that sell records. So is Weezy competition? TI? Or is it just guys like 50, Em and Nas? What about Cam?
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Nightfall914 Reply:
September 1st, 2009 at 6:16 pm
I think he means a combination of lyricism, longevity and overall respect. And I doubt that’s his whole list.Like theres more but he’s not going to run down everyone ya know.
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K-Dubb Reply:
September 2nd, 2009 at 4:36 pm
Broke Iz A Disease Says:
September 1st, 2009 at 5:33 pm
So is Weezy competition? TI? What about Cam?
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
*cleans juice off the screen & calls paramedics*
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Kenny_Goodtimes Reply:
September 2nd, 2009 at 11:48 pm
Waynes wants to be Jay Z even has his lyrics inked on him like a bitch tatooing her mans name on her ass LOL
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September 1st, 2009 at 6:11 pm
WTF??? JAY-Z CANT BE SERIOUS?!?!
First Off..
Jayz HAS responded to Jim Jones and The Diplomats! Of course he didnt respond as harshly and stupid as 50cent responds to people! But he responded. So for him to act like he didnt is ridiculous to say the least.
Dig A Hole.. What was that?
We Fly High…What was that?
Kingdom Come Album…What was that?
I promise u, Listen to Kingdom Come right now. Every single song on that album he through a jab in about dipset. EVERY SINGLE SONG! (real talk) which makes me believe his sole purpose for coming back was to respond to them and the critics and he bricked with bad reviews.
I respect the way Jayz handles beefs by keeping it hip-hop and not doing sucka moves like Curtis Jackson does.
However…him pretending like he doesn respond to people who are “beneath” him cause it would cause more problems and he doesnt have time. whatever! he can use that excuse on game. But NOT DIPSET!!
HE DID RESPOND TO THEM!!! SEVERAL TIMES…THE WHOLE REASON HE CAME BACK WAS TO RESPOND TO THEM!
Any arguments?
I THINK NOT!!! NEXT====>
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Lee Reply:
September 1st, 2009 at 6:38 pm
You make a great point about Most of what you said about Jay but I think or should I say hope he means talking bout Game and Jimmy now. Everyone that really listens to Hip Hop knew that Kingdom Come was at Dam,Dipset and others. but at this point what more can he said about them. Game shoots himself in the foot almost everytime he talks and Jimmy is being out done by Cam right now so he don’t even need to talk about him.
But whats up with that comment bout 50?? please explain.
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MzBrittanyLUVZ To Throw Darts At The Throne And Shoot Air Balls At The Basket! Reply:
September 1st, 2009 at 9:50 pm
What I mean was…
I think 50cents ego causes him to make some extremely sucka type moves! Like tape recording conversations, going and digging up peoples baby mother. Pulling Jim and Juelz on stage.
To me hip hop is/was about battle rapping. Keeping disses on the record on wax. If someone throws a low blow, you throw one back on wax. Hip hop was built on that. Battle RAPPING. 50cent has a tendancy to make things awkwardly personal and too intense and its just hip hop. People hes beefing with he should respond with good music like Jayz and nas. Nas did ether. Jayz did take over. THATS HIPHOP! Feel me? classic hip hop records. Funeral music and curtis. thats hiphop. (though I thought curtis was way better.lol) Thats what I meant, I respect that Jayz doesnt take things waaay too far the way 50cent does and he responds in a way thats hiphop. On wax, or not at all. Jayz has the same money and power 50cent has. He can go dig up families and bast people. But for what? Like Jayz said, he would only end up looking like a big rich bully with nothing else to do. Too much time on his hands.
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YouNG-FReSH2D Reply:
September 2nd, 2009 at 3:38 pm
Jay already dealt with the whole DIPSET sitaution. He kicked DIPSET OUT OF ROC-A-FELLA once you make such a move, what is the point of recording a diss record? Dig a hole was just icin on the cake, Lost ones too. It is what it is, Jigga threw them cats off and kicked Dame out too, thats gangsta!
Whatever Cam had to say after that is irrelevant. Jigga showed him whose BOSS! Now if Jay really wanted to turn the heat up after kicking them off the label he would have, and trust me it would have got real ugly, to the point where rappers/artists wouldn’t want to sign to Roc-A-Fella, so I think that’s why Jay backed off a little bit by just doing Dig-A-Hole and Lost Ones, I think those were warning shots.
The whole Buck Vs 50, Buck is the SUCKA!! 50 gave him a rap career, took him international e.t.c and then he comes out and says f$ck the Unit? Thats the sucka move thats where all these problems came from.50 bailed him out financially and he was on radio, doing shows and talking wreckless. 50 recorded that conversation for people like yourselves, if 50 came out saying Buck calls me all the time crying and apologizing then does something else in public nobody would have believed him so he recorded it, case closed.
Now look at Buck?!!! He’s since apologized. How many apologies has Game made to 50?? I think when he ain’t got nothing better to do he just speaks on 50, dude just can’t move on.
Ross is a fraud theres no defending that dude he lied to the public until he couldn’t do it no more.
Game too, just what the hell is BlackWallStreet? What do they do over there? Game’s best material is The Documentary and it’s downhill from there, he’s referenced Jay Z 162 times in his short career.
Don’t believe me
http://dimewars.com/Video/How-Many-Times-Has-The-Game-Mentioned-Jay-Z-In-One-Of-His-Songs—This-9-Minute-Vid-Contains-ALL-The-Clips-.aspx?bcmediaid=103f0b36-b2cf-4cd3-9ced-3aa67f62ed2e
QB Reply:
September 1st, 2009 at 7:10 pm
Jay-Z dissed Jim over Ballin too back then… He’s contradicting himself with this article. He’s scared of Game… It’s not about levels.
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mertz Reply:
September 2nd, 2009 at 4:22 pm
your comment just went with hayleys mc bodied em comment up top. aeriously. he’s scared of the game? really? i don’t buy a lot of what hova’s saying but i actually agree with him on how he goes about dealing with other rappers. i used to be really angry that he didn’t make a record for every time someone had his name in their mouth…but i get what he’s saying. i use to say it wasn’t good for the game and keeps it from progressing but i’ve since changed my tune. i like battle rap, but what i don’t like is manufactured bs and this dude the game is as dumb as they come. i wouldn’t say so surely that jigga is scared of the game. no way.
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WHY? Reply:
September 1st, 2009 at 8:10 pm
to be honest im not interested in what you have to say because i notice you only comment on jay-z 50 cent articles, so i already know what to expect from you!
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MzBrittanyLUVZ To Throw Darts At The Throne And Shoot Air Balls At The Basket! Reply:
September 2nd, 2009 at 3:21 pm
Who asked you?
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WHY? Reply:
September 2nd, 2009 at 4:07 pm
hey just keepin it real!
Isaiah Thomas Reply:
September 2nd, 2009 at 12:46 am
his sole purpose for coming back was to respond to them and the critics and he bricked with bad reviews.
680,000 thousand first week is bricking…. when comming out of retirement right… smh!
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MzBrittanyLUVZ To Throw Darts At The Throne And Shoot Air Balls At The Basket! Reply:
September 2nd, 2009 at 3:25 pm
Yes…when your Jayz and you have heavy radio playa nd drop 80% the next week and get bad reviews…I would consider that a fail. Wouldnt you? He even considered it a fail. why are you in denial? Did you like kingdom come? i didnt think so…
Like I said…
He let Dipset bait him out of retirement and he hasnt made a great album since. He should ahve stayed retired.At this point he’s selling records cause hes jayz and he has tons of fans who want to see him succeed and get another #1 album.
Not because his music is good. He should have stayed retired.But dipset and others were lighting his a** up so he had to come back. SMH
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September 1st, 2009 at 7:42 pm
FUCK, GAME, EMINEM, NAZ, JIM JONES AND JAY-Z I,LL BATTLE ANY ONE OF THOSE BITCHES, BY THE WAY, I JUST SAved a lot OF MONEY ON MY CAR INSURANCE BY SWITCHING TO GEICO. ALL YOU MOTHERFUCKERS CAN SUCK OUTTA MY ASS TILL YOUR JAWS BURST WITH SHIT, BITCHES.
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mertz Reply:
September 2nd, 2009 at 4:23 pm
lol. nice plug.
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September 1st, 2009 at 9:05 pm
All that shit Jay Z said is cool, and i respect it! @ Broke iz a decease, u mentioned what about Cam? Lol. Jay isn’t fucking with CAM, point blank period! Cam isn’t having it. Thats my guy right there b. lmaoooo.
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September 1st, 2009 at 9:42 pm
yea i agree wit jigg nas,em are like the ones that are in his alley,jim is wat he is and game is what he is not knocking game or jim as a person but rap skills and that certian feeling u get when u hear a real good song jim and game dont really give that to me…but im sure their kool dudes and all..but at the same time jim and game sometimes come off like dicks/
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September 1st, 2009 at 10:13 pm
LETS HEAR FOR THE TWO FEMALES THAT PRODUCED “EMPIRE STATE OF MIND ” HOTTEST JOINT ON THE ALBUM !!!!!!!!
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September 2nd, 2009 at 12:05 am
WHAT HAPPEND TO I’M NOT TALKIN BOUT GAME???? How are you gunna compare Game to Jim Jones!? What kind of point to make is that?? Jim Jones is buried under a roster of whack NY artists, his albums have all flopped, and hes had like 2 singles that got play nationally… Game runs the west coast, makes huge records, and every album he drops is met with critical acclaim (check the facts). Jim Jone’s best track besides Ballin was Certified Gangster ft THE GAME. Why don’t you mention Camron JAY?? Cus you don’t want no one to look up when he murked you on You Gata Love It!!!! Lets get to Jigga now…
Jay’s “competition” (em and nas) are both above him anyways so where does that leave him?? BTW Jigga latches on to every young artist for buzz to stay relevant (kanye, lil wayne, rhianna, ti, young jeezy, DRAKE, pharrell, cold play?, linkin park?, FALL OUT BOY?, MIA??, Santogold???, list goes on…) its almost ODD that he hasn’t reached out to Game isn’t it??
Someone on here said Game felt slighted by jigga and thats why hes mad at Jay and started all this… get ur facts straight! Game said he don’t wear button up shirts or drive a maybach on his mixtape street single for his debut album and Jigga was the one who got pissed for no reason!!!! Since then Jay refused to work with him! And Game has done at least one track with every other Def Jam artist but Jigga. The reason? Is it because Game can’t afford to pay Jay to do a verse? I DOUBT IT… Jay makes it personal to not work with Game! Same way 50 is not about to do a song with him. So what would you do in that situation? Jay has been against Game since The Documentary dropped. Now hes talkin bout him on The overhyped Blueprint 3. Game didn’t put out So Wavy until Jay was on the internet with that whack freestyle talkin bout him that is supposed to open the album, then hes got that song on the album that leaked the other day with the shitty timbo beat referencing Game’s “button ups and maybachs” line. Now hes doing this whack interview, talkin bout the Game again!!!
Game is not autotune Jigga, and btw the only people on the radio still usin autotune are Wayne, kanye, and drake (people the 40 year old needs in order to appeal to the high school audience). This interview just makes this whole BP3 mockery so much more rediculous!! “GET VIOLENT” “I’M NOT TALKIN BOUT GAME” LOL!!
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WHY? Reply:
September 2nd, 2009 at 1:53 pm
LT get your facts straight jay-z’s beef with game goes back to when game was beefin with memphis bleek and young gunz, i know you tryin to represent for the west coast but you need to relax, dont know if you realized it yet but game is starting to become irrelevant so maybe its time to jump ship, oh btw I like that “jerk” shit! that shit is hot minus the tight pants, but i guess thats whats in style!
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LT Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 3:08 pm
funny you should say that The Game is irrelevant. Look how many comments are on every blog post about him, including this one…
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September 2nd, 2009 at 1:05 am
that rhapsody ad brought a smile to my face
missinfo what do you think about blueprint 3? he should’ve kept his dynasty-blueprint flow n stopped experimenting with that spoken word rhyming
personally, i would be okay if he was 40 n still rapping about hustling
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September 2nd, 2009 at 1:08 am
Hey Info, MTv just leaked BP3 on their site. I gotta say, I’m liking the unleaked tracks more so than the whack ones that did get leaked so far.
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September 2nd, 2009 at 6:15 am
DOn’t ask me how somebody can mess up the release date for Blueprint 3 marketing but it happened.. http://thecorner.co.nz/2009/09/02/dont-believe-everything-you-see-blueprint-3-is-not-coming-out-tomorrow/
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September 2nd, 2009 at 12:16 pm
You can sum up all this conversation in a few sentences. Jay-Z HAS dodged a few MC’s in his career to the top.
One would think he knew he didn’t really want it with some of them.
Before he was even competition himself he was dodging certain MC’s.
Bottom line is, Jays legacy is a bit questionable when you weed through the symbolism and subliminals.
Arguing where a Jay-Z stands today in the elite of Hip Hop and a Jay-Z of the past is like getting in between someone from Brooklyn and Queens arguing about Takeover and Ether. Never ending and pointless.
The only reason Jay-Z even mentions Eminem and Nas as his “only competition” is because those are the only two people that we can research and find actual evidence to argue that.
Ether.
Renegade.
Takeover VS Ether. Classic beef. Takeover was strategically brilliant. His bars almost seemed FACTUAL. Ether, not so much. Not saying it wasn’t brilliant. It was harsh opinions of lots of Hip Hop fans FINALLY put into song.
Then there’s Super Ugly. The song that put Nas over giving Jay-Z the “L”.
Years later Nas is essentially working FOR Jay-Z. Hhm?
Renegade, the song that opened the eyes of many Jay-Z fans and broadened the scope of Eminem. In other words Jay-Z was down right LAY-ZY on that track.
The result: Jay-Z and Eminem never appearing on another song together again. One would think he’d have made it on BP3.
Two moves that he NEVER thought would end up bad moves that he would later rectify.
“So how do I respond to that? I can’t win. If I win, then they’ll be like, “See. Now chill. You’re a fuckin’ bully.” And if manages to throw a haymaker from the West Coast, then it’s like “Oooooh.” It’s not even fun.”
Yes we know the Game is a LAME. We get it. Don’t sit here and tell us that the only reason why you’re NOT responding lyrically to Game is because he’s NOT competition.
You don’t know competition, until you compete against them.
Just a thought.
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September 2nd, 2009 at 1:18 pm
Y’all are acting like Jay just did this interview 2 days ago…. This was probably put together weeks ago before any leaks or anything like that came out…
Everyone saying Jay should respond to Jim, Game, Cam etc… I see it as a lose/lose for someone in his position…I mean even if he wins he won’t get any credit because you same dudes will be like “O yea well he should’ve won that guy is a nobody”
Tell groupie to get over it…smh
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September 2nd, 2009 at 3:38 pm
bottom line , the game sucks.. never liked as a rapper
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September 2nd, 2009 at 4:32 pm
i listened to the whole record yesterday on youtube (love the internet) and i liked some of the unleaked track. the record is good.
lol at the dude who said game didn’t start rapping about jay-z till jay put out some whack freestyle. the person who posted it must not be serious.
this dude game is whack, and so is rick ross.
i don’t know why jimmy still at this whole jay-z battle me, respond to me sh*t because jay-z already won. who you again jim jones? how many records you selling? how many places you selling out? i mean i like dipset (cam mostly) and when jim was a hypeman i thought he was alright. now he’s making records, he’s hot, he’s making money…but why the ego? you already getting yours. i’m sorry the man screwed with your crew and your career but that’s how it goes.
people need to grow up. bp3 is good infact when you compare it so some of the crap out there it comes off looking golden. jay z is putting out some better shit than what some of these rappers in the game are and he will still be outselling you. it might be sad for you but it’s true.
didn’t know the game jay-z disses had gone over 160. lol. can’t wait till it’s at 300.
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September 2nd, 2009 at 11:51 pm
Like the cover of XXL this month clearly states Jay-Z is bigger then rap he’s now a music icon not just a rapper the jim jones and LiL Waynes and Games are all just rappers most of em aren’t even really good rappers at that, so some of these battle talks are kinda ridiculous Jay-Z’s only competition now is himself he’s only up against his own legend his own legacy reasonable doubt vs blueprint, hard knock life vs. black album that’s it he’s his own league new Jay-Z vs. Old Jay-Z but either way Jay-Z wins thats it period end of conversation. You want Jay-Z to battle someone have him battle paul Mccartney, The Beatles cause that’s the only dude that comes close to the number of number 1 albums as Jay-Z has fuck rappers ALL OF THEM Jay has already lapped them all! there not even in the race anymore.
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September 4th, 2009 at 4:25 pm
Jayz did NOT kick dipset out of rocafella. They left dame got cam out his deal cause Cam didnt want to be there. get your facts straight. cam was the only one moving over their. jayz is greedy, this he says, this we all know. even if he hated cam he would have kept him if he could to make money off him.
TRY AGAIN…
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