Fri 11 Sep 2009
Jay-Z Megapost: fascinating chat on BET, on Hot97 with Funk Flex, in O Magazine, etc
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(thanks to Yardie)
Jay-Z sat down with a triumvirate of media powerhouses, my homie Angie Martinez, sports pundit Stephen A Smith, and the legendary media-assassin Harry Allen for BET’s Food for Thought: Jay-Z. I think its fascinating that Hov specifically requested these 3 journalists for the show. Great call. I actually wish I could see the unedited footage of Harry and Hov’s chat because…well, because I know how Harry gets down.
Angie and Jay talk about his past, about the Timbaland leaks, and if Kanye and Eminem outrapped him on his own records. Stephen and Hov talk about that infamous $5million dollar buyout (with a fascinating story about losing a copy of the album the day before the deal). Harry and Jay talk about the avoidance of the marriage issue.
After the jump…Jay-Z talks to Funk Flex about 50 Cent’s line on “Flight 187″…
Jay-Z on the Funkmaster Flex show 9-09-09
Jay-Z on Funkmaster Flex _Sept 9 2009_.mp3
Dre from Nahright transcribed some parts, including this quote:
(26:55)
Flex: So 50 on a new freestyle.. On the new album though, you kinda… [Jay interrupts: That was a compliment.] What made you bring up the Summer Jam stage?
Jay-Z: I was really going through the history of it. It’s part of the history… I was actually giving him props. Every single person in that song, I was giving them their time… [Flex: He has a freestyle.] Nah, I think that was already done. No way in the world he could have.. He had that in the tuck. [Flex: You guys aren't moving together with this are you?] Nawwww. You know, he’s a loose cannon. Any given day you could wake up and he’ll start shooting.
Jay-Z in Oprah’s O Magazine:
Lowkey transferred this excerpt from the Oprah x Jay-Z chat in O Magazine (and Jay-Z will appear on Oprah’s show on Sept 24th)….their time together was well documented both on video and by Oprah and Gayle King. But this discussion about Jay’s reunion with his errant father was interesting.
Oprah: So how did you get back with your father?
Jay-Z: My mom set up a meeting. And now I realize why- it makes all the sense in the world. I remember very distinctly that I had a conversation with her in my kitchen. I was saying “You know, Ma, I’ve never really been trying to look inward, and maybe I’m just not meant to fall in love like other people do.” She just looked at me like, “Hush up, boy”.
Oprah: In one of your songs you wrote, you weren’t sure if he even remembered your birthday is in December.
Jay-Z: I believe that. When I was a kid, I once waited for him on a bench. He never showed up. Even as an adult, that affected me. So when my mom set up this meeting, I told her he wouldn’t come- and the first time, he didn’t. At that point, I was really done, but Mom pushed for another meeting because she’s just a beautiful soul.
Oprah: The second time, your father showed up?
Jay-Z: He showed up. And I gave him the real conversation. I told him how I felt the day he left. He was saying stuff like “Man you knew where I was.” I ‘m like, I was a kid! Do you realize how wrong you were? It was your responsibility to see me.” He finally accepted that.
Oprah: Where had he been?
Jay-Z: At his mom’s house ten minutes away from me. That was the sad part.
September 11th, 2009 at 1:20 am
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September 11th, 2009 at 2:56 am
Great editing and production work on the interview… Nice cut between people and questions.. pretty cool blend..
I’m tired of him acting like he’s a fucking Jackson and too private to talk about how amazing it must be to sleep next to Beyonce you’re not going to get more attention then you already get, LAME!!
No one else deserves credit for his story…
So many issues with the shit he said but I’m not going to do overkill again..
Hail Jay-Z
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September 11th, 2009 at 1:23 am
nice.
he goes deep.. his whole life is an open book aside from three things his family ( apart from pops), his business and his wife
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September 11th, 2009 at 1:30 am
Jay-Z interviews were great even though there were some things he said I question..
For one, the shot he took at Jim Jones with the nanananana joint. Saying people arent rapping and talking about their lives and growing and thats when they get tripped up.
Well… What about Beyonce? Why is beyonce still making music for 16 years old? Like her new single “video phone” talkin about how the gangsta be watchin her blah blah blah…Thats NOT her life! Her songs are very child like. But I guess its okay cause she blames it on Sasha Fierce? Noooooo Beyonce does the same thing Jim Jones did. She is successful cause shes *beyonce* her music was better ect she has the whole world & industry in luv with her. What about Kanye West and the other “elite” group of people hes sure to surround himself with to stay relevant?? They all do it…Why single out Jim Jones.
I mean…what Jay-Z is saying I agree with, but dude. Your wife does the exact same thing. Destinys Child 1st album with all 4 members that was a really slow rnb cd had more substance than ANYTHING beyonce released after. PHUCK OUTTA HER JAY!
Other than that great interview..
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September 11th, 2009 at 2:37 am
Thats the biggest problem with dude… He makes the most crazy statements that he’s somehow exempt from…. How and why he gets a pass is beyond me!
I guess he wont be happy until all of NY Hip Hop is dead.. wouldn’t it be so dope if after this last 50 Cent album he becomes the President of Def Jam? hahah
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YouNG-FReSH2D Reply:
September 11th, 2009 at 12:33 pm
Beyonce is not signed to Roc-Nation, they’ve done a couple of records together. He’s not responsible for what she does career wise.
Your argument comparing Beyonce to Jim Jones is kinda ridiculous. Jim for the most part makes music I can relate to. Hustler’s POME. On My Way to Church e.t.c but Nananan is a silly song. It’s funny but didn’t you think it was an odd song, i couldn’t drive around the city bumpin Nananana makes me look immature and thats Jay’s point.
Drake sampled a few nursery type hooks in his song and i’m not feelin that neither.
Beyonce and Jim Jones are 2 very different artists.
Becoming the President of Def Jam? So what Jay did that already, I think you don’t understand why Live Nation/Roc Nation deal is the most impressive deal in hip-hop history forget about being president of a label. Jay got a a great deal and owns all his masters and sold millions of records, ponder that.
I’m a fan of both 50 and Jay Z and they share so many similarities that when both camps diss each other it’s a little confusing. 50 vs Ja singing drama accusations e.t.c it’s these type of comments from dillusional bloggers that kill the buzz and interest in hip-hop, rather than talkin about real stuff like the jewels Jay dropped in the interview y’all looking for something to cry about.
50 gets it in but has more hate than Jay Z, I think in a business sense it’s easier for Jay-Z than it is for 50, more so because 50 is a loose cannon which is why I give him he’s props. There’s no holding 50 back.
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MzBrittanyLUVZ Ghostface Killa Cam!!! ^_^ Reply:
September 11th, 2009 at 2:11 pm
No…
Jay-Z was talking about Jim Jones as an artist PERIOD and showing growth! It doesnt matter what TYPE of artist you are. Jay-Z is saying your music is supposed to grow, change and reflect YOUR life.
Im simply saying Beyonces DOES NOT! It doesnt matter what lable shes on, it doesnt matter if HES responsible for her music. Thats his wife…Shes in his house. Im sure HE hears her music before us and has an opinion.
Now go listen to Beyonces song “video phone” and tell me if that reflects beyonce or anything you can see from her life. It doesnt! But if was released…Why? Simple…To stay connected to an urban fanbase cause her album is really international and pop and she had to do something to keep the streets Im SURE jayz told her to do that. Cause he actually PICKS the people she collabs with rather its bunb, lil flip or slim thug. So he is well aware she is singing a song that is NOT her reality just to appeal to a certain market. Shes an even bigger artist Jim Jones.
So ill ask again…WHY is it okay for people in HIS circle to do that, but he would criticise other artist for not growing with their music?
There is NO excuse…He was just hating. And Jayz is a legend, he talented. But its possible for him to be a hater at times too. Hell WE ALL ARE!
Also…I hate the “nananana” song. But the only thing childish is the hook to me. The content and nature of the song is very adult. And so what if Jim made a song to connect to a younger audience.. What about when Jayz latches on to whoevers young and poppin at the time to stay relevant?
Im not hating on Jay-Z or Beyonce. Im just statting a fact Jayz bragged about “dumbing down” his singles for fortune and fame! He wore a shiney suit! He did the diddy bop. Now…He can say he regrets it now. But he still did those things to get to the top.
How dare he crticise other rappers and artist for manipulating gimmicks to get to the top when his own WIFE has admitted she doesnt even have a cell phone. But shes singing a song about a video phone and filming sexual acts and how the “gangstas” in atl holla. NOOOOOO thats completely fuggazy! Thats not her life. Shes making a song just to appeal to young people and the streets. She just as wrong as jim. Just cause she had success dont make it better.
Nice try though…
(Who’s next?)
YouNG-FReSH2D Reply:
September 11th, 2009 at 5:27 pm
Think before you post stuff, Beyonce is Jay-Z’s wife not artist. Mathew Knowles and Tina Knowles have more of a say in Beyonce’s career. Because if they didn’t they’d clash see Ike & Tina.
Videophone? has a hip-hop feel to it but Beyonce been featured on hip-hop records long before jigga came along. Your idol Cam had her singing about sellin crack. Now the track in itself was written by Beyonce Knowles, Crawford, Garrett & Angela Beyincé not Shawn Carter aka Jay Z and no Jay didn’t produce the beat. If you have any contradictory information, post the link, can’t argue with the facts.
Beyonce is a hip-hop fan so I would expect to hear her do hip-hop influenced tracks because she’s part of the culture. She’s an artist in her own right she’s not a new artist for Jay to take control over she will be succesful with or without Jay’s influence.
Keep the streets? Beyonce makes more money further away from the streets. Men like myself like Beyonce because she’s beautiful talented, sexy ambitious and succesful. she does not need to make music for me, i’ll catch her in her movies.
In your own words,”Also…I hate the “nananana” song.” So you hate it Hov doesn’t like it but when Hov says it he’s hating in general…..huh???!!!
Hov has said repeatedly that Jim Jones is not competition which he ain’t. Hov is speaking on hip-hop in general because artist get to that 35-40 and retirement becomes a topic of discussion thats why they spoke on Frank Sinatra doing 59 albums, hip-hop is seen as young man’s thing because it’s relatively young. If hip-hop artists stop making records at 40 whats going to happen when the fans turn 40 are they supposed to stop listening to it or should artists like Jay-Z pioneer the growth of the culture. Once you understand that Cam’ron and whoever are a very small part of the culture you’ll see sense because your train of thought is limited by your obsession with Cam’ron. Try not to be juvenile in the way you construct your arguments, (who’s next? did you win something?)
YouNG-FReSH2D Reply:
September 11th, 2009 at 5:44 pm
I’ve actually never heard “Videophone” until today. Thats a dope record.
I like the concept it’s really dope, no comparison to nanananana, nananaann is some dumb sh!t kids say why is a grown man saying it in his record. Males holla at females at all ages so I don’t understand your beef or even see the comparison.
It’s getting a female perspective to what happens when males and females interact. Because us men have a photographic memory and remember vividly what a beautiful woman looks like. So that’s the videophone metaphor. I’m 10000% sure many men have tried to holla at Beyonce on numerous occasions so I don’t see your beef, if your argument is that she’s married….you don’t deserve a response because this won’t be a discusion it will be a complete waste of time.
BlacHaze Reply:
September 12th, 2009 at 2:22 am
Yo, MzBrittanyLUVZ is a hater who loves to argue. That’s why she put ‘who’s next’ at the end of her argument. She just wants someone to talk to.
Mr_Wayne Reply:
September 12th, 2009 at 3:11 pm
You’ll never convince the Beyonce Jay-Z Stans that either one of them EVER make a mistake or do wrong.
I have nothing against Jay-Z. I own all his albums (before BP3). He just has too many contradicting opinions about music.
Especially lately. His new album has several contradictions.
Bottom line is not everyone is going to make music the way the next artist does. So stop knocking what the next artist does. Even if it’s auto-tune, let THE PEOPLE decide if it’s cool or not
Every genre of music has categories. Children, adult, etc.
Jay-Z IMHO is in the Kanye West lane… Which clearly NO ONE wants to acknowledge that.
It must be annoying as an artist to have a multi-millionaire, married to an R&B diva, dictating through the media what you should to put in YOUR music.
Someone needs to address that issue. Along with the contradictions.
In a NON T-Pain way.
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MzBrittanyLUVZ To Speak The Truth & Put Kool Aid Sippin Bloggers In Their Place!!! Reply:
September 13th, 2009 at 2:25 am
EXACTLY!!! AND I TOO AM A HIP-HOP FAN! WHEN I WAS IN HIGH SCHOOL FOR CHRISTMAS…INSTEAD OF CLOTHES, MONEY, OR ANYTHING ELSE I ASKED MY MOTHER TO BUY ME EVERY SINGLE JAYZ CD AND DVD THAT EVER CAME OUT. SHE SEARCHED FAR AND WIDE, BUT SHE CAME THROUGH!
I WAS/IS A TRUE JAYZ/ROCAFELLA FAN. BUT I CANT MAKE A COMMENT ABOUT THIS MAN WITHOUT BEING CALLED A HATER WHEN I SUPPORTED THIS MAN ENDLESSLY AND STILL DO.
I STILL THINK JAYZ IS A GREAT TALENT. BUT HES A LIAR AND HATER TOO. JUST BECAUSE HES SUCCESSFUL DOES NOT MAKE HIM ABOVE IT!
HE CONTRADICTS HIMSELF CONSTANTLY. HE SUBLIMINALLY DISSES EVERYONE HE HAS ISSUES WITH…THEN HE WILL SAY “IF ITS NOT AIMED AT ME…I DONT RESPECT IT” THIS MAN IS FULL OF SH*T!HOW CAN HE CALL ARTIST OUT FOR NOT GROWING UP WHEN HIS OWN WIFE IS IN THE INDUSTRY MILKING IT THE SAME WAY? AND HAS TO BE HALF NAKED TOO. I LUVED SEEING MARY J.BLIGE UP THERE DOING HER THING. SHE DOESNT HAVE TO GO ON THE STAGE IN HER PANTIES AND SPREAD HER LEGS FOR ATTENTION!THAT DOESNT MEAN THEY ARENT GOOD PERFORMERS AND GOOD MUSICIANS, BUT THEY FULL OF SH*T!
I CALL A SPADE A SPADE!
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September 11th, 2009 at 1:31 am
NICE! I really enjoyed the BET thing. I normally don’t watch BET, but the editing on this show was actually really good. Almost impressive.
BTW..
The Blueprint 3 is SICK! Jay-Z albums always sound different from anything out at the time. Very pleased with his effort on the album.
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September 11th, 2009 at 2:00 am
Info, Dig this for perspective…Everyone hates on 50Cent Interscope wont put his album out, sigles like “Get Up” and “Ok Alright” would be career building hits for anyone else based on the spins alone BUT not good enough for 50 Cent, right? And he’s so irrelevant if you let the smart bloggers tell it..
But why is it that he’s getting about as much press for his fucking book as Jay-Z is for his album?
Am I the only one who has noticed that? I bet he could book Letterman tomorrow night..But not Oprah lol
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September 11th, 2009 at 3:00 am
that was an excellent conversation. i appreciated the questions as well as the responses. although i disagree with much of the content and influence jayz may have lyrically(as talented as he is)in his music, i do admire his drive. if anything i hope people, myself included, respect, admire, and replicate the willingness to perform to the best of their abilities in whatever endeavor.
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September 11th, 2009 at 3:08 am
I THOUGHT FOOD FOR THOUGHT WAS COMING ON 12AM ON BET
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September 11th, 2009 at 4:14 am
Still waiting for the new album 2 grow on me. Only a few tracks jump out- blueprints 1 and 2 far better.
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princerudynasim Reply:
September 11th, 2009 at 10:37 am
“Still waiting for the new album 2 grow on me”
in other words the albums sucks but since your a Jay-z stan you cant accept that.
Btw boohoo the dude didnt have his father there growing up! how many other rappers and other kids didnt. That shit isnt deep that some shit thats been going on for ages in the lower classes because men dont step up.
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Mr_Wayne Reply:
September 12th, 2009 at 3:14 pm
LOL @ the “Jay-z stan” comment.
That’s real talk!!!
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September 11th, 2009 at 9:49 am
LOL!!!! Y’all are a a trip. Let me get this straight…..If Jay doesn’t talk to people he’s being all “Hollywood and exclusive”.If he does talk to people he’s acting like he’s the center of the world.He’s taking credit for things he shouldn’t, He’s not talking about his marriage enough, he’s not as big an influence lyrically as he claims……sooooo is it people’s claim that he just tripped and stumbled into success? Granted he’s not flawless and has a number of questionable areas but damn y’all make 13 yrs of above average production sound like pure luck.
Oh……and him and Beyonce are Illuminati too.Can’t forget that.
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September 11th, 2009 at 11:19 am
” why u make ” naanaa na naa na” , you trying to date a 12 year old ? ” …quote of the year..
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September 11th, 2009 at 11:50 am
I was very pleased with the interview and finally appreciate something that BET has put their name on. Jay gets so much flack for him being a grown man. Seems to me the only people who have a problem with him are probably under the age of 30-35. Never purchased his first album in cassette form and don’t truly know the culture of Hip Hop as a whole. The man is turning 40 in 3 months and people expect him to still tell crack tales and hood stories. I feel the inside issues with fans of his are that they didn’t grow with him. Artist grow with their contributions to music…but fans stay one sided and close-minded to growth. They fall in love with an artist with a certain album and stay grounded with that particular era or album and never grow with the progression of that artist. I often wonder how many people would appreciate Jay or any veteran MC in the game if they were over 30+ and still living in the hood, selling drugs, and shooting people and rapping about it? Then where would your loyalty be to so said artist? Sometimes you have to come from under your own rock and see the world in a grown light. Jay has progressed with his music although he has had his lackluster moments as all the greats in all genre’s of music. Stevie Wonder, U2, Michael Jackson, KRS-1, Rakim, Metallica have all had a moment where they recorded music that went over their fans heads or was created from a grown perspective. But it doesn’t make them less of an artist…maybe they out grew you and you need to catch up. This is why HIP HOP is dead because as long as it stays a young man’s game, made for young people then you will always have a subject matter that will be young. R&B, Rock, and Pop music artist from the 60’s, 70’s and 80’s still pack major stadiums and sell albums to fans of all ages, new and old fans because those fans aren’t close-minded to growth and they aren’t blind to older material from these artist. Hip Hop is the only culture of music where people down the old school artist and feel that anything older than their favorite artist is irrelevant. Jay, and all the other vets in the game can continue to make music well into their 50’s-60’s as long as they continue to make hits for those who continue to listen…stop trying to fit in and follow the lane and fans that got you to where you are.
One Love, One Life, One Hip Hop!
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Mr_Wayne Reply:
September 12th, 2009 at 3:16 pm
It’s NOT about the maphioso rap for me. BP3 just had NO substance.
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September 11th, 2009 at 1:28 pm
AINT NOBODY REALLY SAYIN SHIT ABOUT RAEKWON’S ALBUM THAT’S FUCKED UP. NOTHING ON HERE REALLY, NOTHING ON HOT97. IS HE GETTING PLAYED DOWN? JAY-Z GETTING INTERVIEWS ALL OVER THE PLACE. SHOW A NIGGA LOVE.
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dirt Reply:
September 11th, 2009 at 1:39 pm
yes!!!!!!!!!!!! info posted some rae stuff. LUV ya mami:)
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Nightfall914 Reply:
September 11th, 2009 at 7:23 pm
Jay is a bigger all around media figure, but Rae’s been getting TONS of coverage and acclaim for OB4CL2.
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September 11th, 2009 at 7:10 pm
I just swore someone was going to say something about jay sayin that he didn’t think B.I.G ate him on that track from reasonable doubt.. The look on his face was saying : gtfoh are you serious? That makes me believe what nas was sayin in the beginning was true. Jay thinks he spit better than big, yet at the same time how many lyrics of bigs gone come out of his mouth?…so basically you sayin emenim and kanye you’ll admit killed you or that you can take that but not BIG???? I got the new BP3 album and I fuxx wit it. I also feel everyone about the raekwon album…seems like he’s getting no airplay. I called one of my local cd stores the day it dropped and even today, just to see and they said they didn’t have it. Im thinking how does a in the hood spot not have raekwons ob4cl2? I have the album and its fire these two albums made it a great month for hip hop
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September 11th, 2009 at 8:06 pm
@ “Think before you post stuff, Beyonce is Jay-Z’s wife not artist. Mathew Knowles and Tina Knowles have more of a say in Beyonce’s career.” -YoungFresh
That comment alone shows you have no clue! lol Its actually funny, your still talking in circles.
Its not about Jimmy being competition for him. I know Jim Jones is no competition for him! Im not saying he is. My point is Jayz christicising him as an artist for not growing and showing growth in his music when his OWN WIFE! A top artist repeatedly does the same thing! She copies from other people. Majority of her songs sound the same. She even lies about writing them.
My point for the last time…(you dont have a defense for)
Why is it okay for Beyonce to not grow with her music. Why is it okay for Beyonce to sing about things that arent her life, but Jayz will criticise another rapper/artist (rather their competition for him or not. rather their successful or not, rather he beefs with them or not)for doing the same thing his own wife does as an artist.
PS: Jay-z has TONS of control over Beyonces music. Beyonce is NOT from the hood, she is not street. Nothing about her is. (this is from her own MOUTH) Jayz is the person who rounded up the producers for destinys childs last album including 9th wonder and some others. Jayz is the one who told her she went to pop and needed to get the streets back to avoid being called a sellout. Thats where the soldier song came from out of no where. Jayz gives her the green light on who she should collab with.He has been a major part of mentoring beyonces career. (via kelly and michelle on her E! news special “Beyonce Revealed”)
As an african American artist maintaining a street fanbase in vital no matter how big you get! Even Michael Jackson was advised to go back and worked with people like Jayz and wanted to work with Keyshia Cole (fact)
No matter how big a singer gets or how much money they make…they NEED to keep the streets.You need to keep the “fresh” audience in tune to what your doing! Jayz TAUGHT beyonce that! (from her own mouth!)Which is the reason Jayz clings on to anyone hot at the time to stay relevant. (drake, rihanna, lil wayne ect)
So yes…My argument is very valid!
Let me ask again…Why is it okay for Beyonce to make immature/street songs that do NOT pertain to her life or how she lives to maintain a young urban fanbase???
You have no excuse…Other than fame, greed and lust for success! Whats the difference between her and jim jones, besides the fact she succeeded? Shes the same fake artist Jayz was talkin about. And thats his WIFE! Why doesnt he clown her?(*cough* cause shes the reason hes relevant!) Exactly…
NEXT?–>
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BlacHaze Reply:
September 12th, 2009 at 2:25 am
…breathe…
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MzBrittanyLUVZ To Speak The Truth & Put Kool Aid Sippin Bloggers In Their Place!!! Reply:
September 12th, 2009 at 6:13 pm
How many screen names do you have? Its obvious your “youngfresh2def” just to scared to comeback.
OWNED! NEXT—>
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YouNG-FReSH2D Reply:
September 12th, 2009 at 8:44 am
Hahahahhahaah thats all your goin to get………LOL!!!!
Does not warrant a response..LOL!! The funny thing is she’ll never know how stupid those comments are, you said.
Jay z clings on to artists because he’s not talented right. Jay Z has sold millions of records long before Rhianna Drake or whoever, he’s sold the garden solo without those artists.
They need Jay to endorse them because jay’s fanbase is worldwide, if you feature on a record you get world wide exposure thats the business surrounding that. You concept is ridiculous!
If Jay had no talent why are record copanies giving him 150 million to do his thing NOBODY IS GETTING THAT IN HIP-HOP in this day and age unless they believe in you, and Drake signs to Young Money for 1.5mil???
I mean BP3 cost Jay Z 5 million alone. some artists career does not even equate to that.
You said Jay Z put together Destiny’s
Child’s last album WRONG!!!
The ALbum came out on Columbia records and was written and produced
by Beyoncé Knowles, Kelly Rowland, Michelle Williams, Rich Harrison, MATHEW KNOWLES who is the (executive producer), 9th Wonder, Bryan Michael Cox, Dre & Vidal, Sean Garrett, Rodney Jerkins, Rockwilder, Ric Rude, Erron Williams, Mario Winans, WyldCard NO Jay Z get your facts straight, if you have any contradictory evidence post the link!!!!
At the end of the day Beyonce is like the Queen of what she does right now, she has a global fanbase who will disagree with your opinion regardless of how many times you post it thats why she wins awards for her talent and sells out any venue on this planet.
You must not understand showbiz. Next you’ll be attacking the roles she plays in her movies, LOL!!! I’m glad your only 1 opinion though…
I’m confused if you said Beyonce didn’t right Videophone
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MzBrittanyLUVZ To Speak The Truth & Put Kool Aid Sippin Bloggers In Their Place!!! Reply:
September 13th, 2009 at 2:36 am
Look at your post..
OF COURSE JAYZ ISNT GOING TO BE CREDITED FOR TELLING HER WHO TO WORK WITH!
IM NOT SAYING HE PRODUCED HER ALBUM…IM SAYING HE GIVES HER INPUT ON WHAT TO DO.
BEYONCE IS NOT HIPHOP!
IF BEYONCE HAS A SONG SHE MAY WANT A RAP ON IT. JAYZ TELLS HER WHO TO COLLABORATE WITH. JAYZ IS THE PERSON WHO TOLD HER THAT DESTINYS CHILD NEEDED TO MAKE AN URBAN ALBUM CAUSE THEY WERE CALLED “SELLOUTS” (WHICH THEY WERE AT THE TIME.) JAYZ GAVE HER ADVICE ABOUT HER CAREER AND ITS THE REASON WHY SHES MAINTAINED A BROAD FANBASE.
SHE HAS SAID THIS HERSELF IN HER MUSIC (WHICH I LISTEN TO) SHE FEELS LIKE JAYZ “SAVED HER”…
IM NOT TALKING ABOUT ACTUAL PRODUCTION CREDITS.LOL NINTH WONDER SAID JAYZ CALLED HIM AND ASKED HIM FOR BEATS FOR D.C. YOU CAN GOOGLE THAT.
YOUR RIGHT…JAYZ HAS SOLD MILLIONS PRIOR TO THOSE PEOPLE HE WORKED WITH(DRAKE, RIHANNA ECT)BUT BEFORE THEM,THEIR WERE OTHER RELEVANT PEOPLE HE CLINGED TO AND PUT IN IS CIRCLE…ONE BEING BEYONCE.
IT DOESNT MATTER WHO WRITES A SONG. IF AN ARTIST READS THE LYRICS OF A SONG AND SEE IT DOESNT PERTAIN TO THEIR LIFE AND WHO THEY ARE…WHY WOULD THEY PICK IT AND RECORD IT?
THE SAME REASON JIM JONES DID…TO TRY TO CONNECT TO THAT AUDIENCE. UR STILL TALKING IN CIRCLES.
PS: BEING TALENTED AND BEING RELEVANT HAS NO CORRELATION!! YOU CAN BE TALENTED AS HELL AND STILL NOT BE RELEVANT! SO EVEN THE MOST TALENTED PEOPLE NEED TO CLING ON TO YOUNG FRESH PEOPLE TO MAINTAIN THAT FIRE. WHY YOU THINK JAYZ WITH RIHANNA AND KANYE AND NOT WITH BEANIE SEIGAL?
ENOUGH SAID!
NEXT?—>
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MzBrittanyLUVZ To Speak The Truth & Put Kool Aid Sippin Bloggers In Their Place!!! Reply:
September 13th, 2009 at 2:45 am
Jay-z calls 9th wonder to work with destinys child on their last album cause he makes soulful hiphop beats and he told beyonce that destinys child went to pop and they need to come back to the streets. he linked her up with a hiphop producer for their last album.
need proof?
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1492748/20041019/jay_z.jhtml
***BAM***
OWNED!
NEXT?—>
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YouNG-FReSH2D Reply:
September 13th, 2009 at 7:11 am
Your very childish. In my post I did put 9th wonder on there as credited with his contribution to the album, the people on there as producers and writers were credited for the production of that album. Jay called 9th wonder to do some beats for himself as well as Destiny’s Child, period thats it Jay had the connect, so thats what you took and let your imagination run wild then that shows what type of person you are, thats not taking control over Destiny’s child’s career especially when he had other obligations elsewhere, if you can’t get that through your low IQ thick skull then it is what it is.
Change screen names? To BlacHaze ain’t nobody scared of you, your nothing but a screen name yourself and not a very intelligent one either so why would I change my screen name grow up.
Your points are be, there’s no more need for discussion. You can say what you want about Beyonce, she’s still going to win awards, ascap awards for her writing, do crazy movies and further her career you can just sit their and hate all day long and have a hater life, who cares.
Just like the 9/11 shows your presence was not required or missed, people like you blog and are never part of these historical moments, we have nothing in common.
Still putting next on your comments LOL! thats how failures try to convince themselves that theyve won. LOL, your pathetic.
YouNG-FReSH2D Reply:
September 13th, 2009 at 7:29 am
I told you to post the link that gives Jay Z credit for producing and writing videophone.
So I like how you give yourself enough rope to hang yourself, 9th wonder produced “Is She the Reason” and “Girl” do they sound like tracks to keep hoodrats entertained? Huh?
Wasn’t that your point Jay keeping it hood on these records? LOL!!!
So anything remotely connected to the streetlife your going to credit that to Jay-Z? 9th wonder worked on The Black Album, so Jay called him up to do beats for Destiny’s Child, they used Jay to get at him because they know each other just like if Jay wanted Kelly Rowland to do tracks with him he’d ask Beyonce to place the call so does that mean Beyonce is taking control over Jay’s career LOL!!! And that Beyonce is representing the ladies saying Jay Z needs the ladies to remain succesful, do see the flipside to what your talkin about. Your really funny LOL!!!
September 11th, 2009 at 8:13 pm
Here Are REAL Facts!!!
#1. Beyonce is NOT a hip-hop fan, nor is she hood or from the streets! (that argumment destroyed!)
#2. Beyonce did NOT write “Video Phone” NOR does she write a lot of her music. But she STILL sang the song, though it is NOT who she is for the sake of keeping her “urban” fanbase and connecting to a younger crowd. (same reason jim jones would make nanananana)
#3. Beyonce has appeared on hiphop songs, and at the tender age of 16 she did sing about selling crack in order to get her foot in the door. You said it first…So how fake is that for her to make a song like that and promote this christain family image, but the moment she got an opportunity she jumped on it! That my friend is FAKE!
So once again..How can Jay-z call another artist out for being fake and a hypocrite when he sleeps with one? (A fake hypocrite artist)
#4. I dont like the nanannanan song…because I dont like the way it sounds. I just dont liek “the song”. But im not hating on it cause its “childish” the way jayz is.
Now I DO like “video phone” I even like “LOL Smiley Face” (wouldnt buy it.lol) but it doesnt bother me.
My issue with Jay-z is him chriticising other artist for doing things HE DOES AND HAS DONE AND HIS OWN WIFE…A MUSICIAN DOES THEM TOO. (STILL DOES)
HOW DARE HE! HES FULL OF IT! YES…HES TALENTED! YES, HES A LEGEND. YES HE HAS GREAT ALBUMS…BUT HE WAS HATING AND HES FULL OF IT. WHY ARE U ARGUING?
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BlacHaze Reply:
September 12th, 2009 at 2:27 am
It sounds like you’re arguing witcho’ self…
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September 11th, 2009 at 8:23 pm
ps:
Please stop trying to throw Cam’ron in as an argument against what im saying. This has nothing to do with Camron or who I like. Im simply talking about Jayz opinions about other artist!
The Truth…
Shawn Carter has NO RIGHT (regarless of what hes accomplished) to chriticise other rappers for using gimmicks to get in the rap game and star relevant!
HE DID THE SAME DAMN THING!
Had he not…He may not be as successful as he became!
*Jayz wore a shiney suit
*he made repetative singles
*he latched on to hot artist to stay relevant
*he has dissed people and rode the coat tails of other rappers for publicity!
HE DID IT ALL!!
Who is he to judge?? The new school is just following his lead. (Just like he likes to brag about them doing!. They learned from THE BEST!)
Jay-Z needs to fall back and let the new genration do it their way! When he blew up rakim and other pioneers werent telling him what he should be doing! And if they did he would have been mad.
The difference is…The pioneers of rap fell back and.or died (unfortunantly) and allowed a Jay-z, nas ect to take it to the level they wanted to.
Jayz doesnt want to pioneer hiphop to change it or help it grow. Hes here to keep it the same…
ALL ABOUT HIM! WAKE UP! DONT GET MAD AT ME CAUSE I WONT DRINK THE KOOL AID!
Before he tells rappers or anyone else in hiphop to grow up and be themselves…he needs to tell it to his WIFE!
Next—>
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BlacHaze Reply:
September 12th, 2009 at 2:32 am
DAAAMN, you still talking about the same thing!?!? You know, for a person who seems so sure that she’s made her point you sure do reiterate ALOT!!!….shut up….
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MzBrittanyLUVZ To Speak The Truth & Put Kool Aid Sippin Bloggers In Their Place!!! Reply:
September 12th, 2009 at 6:12 pm
U mad?
NEXT—>
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BlacHaze Reply:
September 12th, 2009 at 8:32 pm
I’m mad?? Have you read what you wrote? It sounds like Jay-Z left you for Beyonce, lol. You sound very bitter.
MzBrittanyLUVZ To Speak The Truth & Put Kool Aid Sippin Bloggers In Their Place!!! Reply:
September 13th, 2009 at 12:21 am
Noooo…
I think Jay-Z and Beyonce’ are talented. They balance each other well. I just think Jay-Z sometimes talks out his azz to hate on people he doesnt like.
Jay-Z of all people to talk about other rappers using gimmicks and commercial ploys to gain fame and fortune in the hip hop indusrty…Be honest, does that make sense? Especially when he did it and his own wife continues to do it. GTFOH
Jay-z is dope, but he hates and then attempts to mask it as reason when you can drive a truck through the holes in his defenses.
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September 12th, 2009 at 7:12 pm
I appreciate what he’s done for Hip Hop. His as an artist can’t be compared as far as Hip Hop goes. He might be the pinnacle, as far as success is concerned.
Lyrically though… we can argue.
I didn’t know people even argued if B.I.G. had a better verse or not.
I thought it was a fact.
He said it himself, “That album took 26 years to make”.
Jay-Z @ 26 couldn’t touch a 20 year old B.I.G.
Just doin’ the math.
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September 13th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
I have been tired of Jay-Z since Blueprint. Even back then I thought his raps were tired. No matter what people say (Cam calling him out on the biting,ect) cats still dig this dude. He’s a fraud and playing mad people. He isn’t a trend setter. He’s the loudest follower. I don’t care how many albums he sells or who he goes home to at night, because he hasn’t gone hard since the last Primo beat he was on.
I remember in a Prodigy interview, P said Jay approached him in the club (not long after all the Summer Jam wildness) and wanted to shake hands and said “It was only Hip Hop.” Prodigy was furious. When “P was a ballerina”, Jay was in a friggin Hawaiian shirt. And the ballerina pic, P said he was 8 in it, and I’m pretty sure we all have embarrassing pictures from that time.
Jay + Eurkel glasses= Lame ass
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September 13th, 2009 at 3:53 pm
Once again…
Youa re in denial. You dont understand what I am explaining to you.
I did NOT say that Jay-z writes and produces her music! Get that straight. Jay-z mentors her and gives her direction on what she should do. (via beyonce & destinys child) See her interview on the E! channel. She had a special called “Beyonce Revealed”, she and destinys child spoke on how Jayz helped them find the medium between an urban audience and a pop audience cause they were called sellouts for going too pop on the survivor album.
Is she the reason and Girl are both soulful rnb songs that destinys child typically DOES NOT make. They made up tempo pop records like bootylicious and survivor.
Jayz encouraged Beyonce and Destinys child to make a more urban album cause they were losing the streets.(that doesnt mean ghetto hood rat trash like you insist it does) It means making an album for an urban audience.
He told her what type of producers to work with such as 9th wonder which he called himself and told them to work with two of the hottest rappers. One Jayz was TRYING to sign to rocafella at the time LIL WAYNE!
I know what im talkin about…You clearly dont!
Like I said…Jayz mentors beyonce. NO he doesnt executive produce her music and hes not credited in the liner notes of her music. But hes a big part of whay Beyonce has maintained mainstream success and stayed a float in the industry.
She admitts that…Whay cant you?
OWNED! NEXT?—>
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September 13th, 2009 at 4:01 pm
@ “Jay called 9th wonder to do some beats for himself as well as Destiny’s Child, period thats it Jay had the connect, so thats what you took and let your imagination run wild then that shows what type of person you are, thats not taking control over Destiny’s child’s career”
I DID NOT SAY HE IS TAKING CONTROL OF HER CAREER! WHY DO YOU KEEP PUTTING WORDS IN MY MOUTH? I DIDNT SAY THAT.
I SAID HE HELPED HER UNDERSTAND THAT SHE NEEDED TO KEEP CONNECTED TO THE STREETS OR SHE WOULD LOSE HER FOUNDATION.
ITS NOT AS SIMPLE AS HIM HAVING THE CONNECT…HE ADVISED HER ON THE PRODUCERS SHE SHOULD WORK WITH. NOT AS HER BOSS, BUT AS A FRIEND. HE ENCOURAGED HER TO MAKE AN URBAN ALBUM…WHICH “DETINY FULLFILLED” WAS A SOULFUL RNB ALBUM THAT THEY USUALLY DONT MAKE. THAT WAS TO CONNECT BACK TO THE PEOPLE CAUSE THEY WENT TOO POP.
THAT WAS FROM JAY-Z ENCOURAGEMENT. SLIM THUG AND BUN B COLLABORATED WITH BEYONCE…THAT WAS JAY-Z SUGGESTION TO PUT THOSE PEOPLE ON HER SONG. LIL WAYNE AND T.I WERE ON HER RECORDS. THAT WAS JAY-Z SUGGESTION.
BELIEVE ME…SHE WOULD NEVER PUT A RAPPER ON HER SONG JAY-Z DOESNT APPROVE OF!
BEYONCE WILL NEVER DO A SONG WITH EMINEM, OR NAS, 50CENT! NO ONE HE’S IN COMPETITION WITH. HE’S TOO AFRAID THEY MAY SOUND BETTER.
IT’S ALWAYS GONNA BE HIS SAME HOMO CIRCLE…HIM KANYE AND LIL WAYNE OF COURSE CAUSE HE WAS TRYING TO BLOW LIL WAYNE UP. HE WANTED TO SIGN HIM.
GIVE IT UP. YOU SPEAKING AS A FAN.IM SPEAKIN ON THE REAL AND WHATS OBVIOUS.
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September 14th, 2009 at 10:39 am
When will the other parts be available??
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September 16th, 2009 at 2:30 pm
OHHHHH MANNNNNN i love angie her n jay ALWAYS have great convo
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