Wed 19 May 2010
Is its post-Jay-Z angst day? Beanie Sigels mocks, Peedi Crack accuses…(Updated)
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Apparently at a recent State Property concert, Beanie Sigel chose to deal with Hov’s central verse in the song “What We Do,” by turning it into schoolroom scene from a Peanuts Gang cartoon. Awkward. (thanks to Forbez for the clip)
And then over in XXL, they reported that another disenchanted State Prop member, Peedi Crack is accusing Jay-Z of stealing flows… Meanwhile, Jay-Z had breakfast with Mayor Bloomberg and the new Russian gazillionaire who majority-owns the Nets and Barclay Stadium.
UPDATE: Young Chris responded to Peedi’s comments, telling XXL “Steel sharpens steel…” *rubs chin* hmm, ok. He elaborates on that….
Read more after the jump…
Peedi Crack was on Philly’s Power 99 with Cosmic Kev, and accused his former Rocafella/StateProperty boss, Jay-Z, of stealing Young Chris’ flow:
“He steals swag, ideas, concepts—whatever you want to call it… Jay doesn’t just straight-up jack you for a song. He’s just smooth with it. You ever listen to Young Chris rap and then go back and listen to Jay? You almost start to scratch your head. The old Jay-Z never rapped like that. That’s Young Gunners flow to the tee. There are actually people that don’t know that that [the whisper rap] was [Chris'] flow. I don’t understand why Jay don’t just say that he got the swag from the young bull…Jay has no swag of his own.”
hmm. Peedi is hardly the only one who has made the Hov vs Young Chris whispering connection (ie TinyMixtapes ) but is it just that same compilation-style that we see with many mega-superstars who constantly mutate over their long careers to keep their audience invested? Remember Madonna’s edgy Harlem period? LOL. Maybe Hov is just expanding his vocal repertoire? I dunno. (related: Just Blaze seemed to see it as a un-resolvable debate as well. Or just an uninteresting one? Honestly, so many of the current “debates” that get artificially riled up on twitter etc, are so boring I can barely keep my eyes open long enough to post them here. It always makes me wonder, which came first? The issue or the discussion of the issue?)
UPDATE (continued):
Young Chris tells XXL: “It’s family, we all in the family…We work off each other’s vibes. That’s how some of our best, best records came out. You gotta think when we was in the studio at the time it’s pressure. Everybody that’s in there gets busy, from me to Peedi to muthafuckin’ Beans to Jay, Freeway, and it was like really a lyrical war in there. So when I say steel sharpens steel, I just mean we all fed off each other.”
May 19th, 2010 at 3:10 pm
I think the Chris/Jay-z thing is possibly hip hop’s worst or best kept secret lol.
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Rhyme & Reason Reply:
May 19th, 2010 at 3:42 pm
actually when state prop came to light everybody said that young chris mirrored jay-z’s cadence being that jay-z was already doin’ his thing but ehh who cares
if it is his style’young chris’ then eventually he can grow to out shine he who bit said style
you’d think right*
*issue or discussion? see, circles.
but the main thing here is that these dudes cant deny these hits with or with out jay verses
And they still cant top these hits
*issue or discussion? see, more circles.
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Peety Green Reply:
May 19th, 2010 at 5:58 pm
At the end of the day even if you go to another level professionally you still carve out a space for you homies to eat if that be tour situation or an album situation or whatever… You dont have to hold their hand but you dont have to abandon them either..
I dont think he set any of those dudes up to do anything on their own after the roc and you always have to bring it back to 50 Cent, look at him all but done with hip hop but making sure banks and yayo still getting tour money still putting out work and still living… those dudes aint just sitting at home waiting for a call..
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Rhyme & Reason Reply:
May 19th, 2010 at 10:25 pm
Yeah that is true but if they my homies why is they siding wit the next nigga every chance they get
wut you talkin bout is ‘loyalty’ at the same time personal growth is always a must
YDLAFAMS Reply:
May 20th, 2010 at 12:28 am
Finally somebody with a brain! This dude Jay is just f-cked up. He is a habitual swagger and mojo jackin’ a** fool who ditches the cats who bring him the most and then he leaves them with the least. When you’re doing this kinda business with the dregs of society, you have to be careful because mofos ain’t got isht to loose so tread with caution.
iceberg NY Reply:
May 20th, 2010 at 12:42 pm
100 % Cosign, we can ride on FIF all we want, but lets keep 100…how many crews that’s really eating as a unit (yeah Pun intended). Jay doesn’t even feature Bleek on his albums Today…I mean Look at Nas, what happen to Bravehearts, do we even know who them bums are?
Now to keep it real, Seriously, on the ruling of Jay/Chris flow; Young Chris made it a hot line, Jay made it a hot song ..Verdict, On to the Next One
Chris is lucky Jay even jack his lil whisper style cuz w/ him. The world would have never heard it, lets be honest.
L.I.P for life Reply:
May 20th, 2010 at 10:13 am
See that the problem nobody want to here or see the truth and i believe them don’t think they all hate on him pictures yourself that you was one of them and you was down with jay and you was dying to show the world a whole new styles of rap but jay give you wack material for your album and he find the hottest producers plus take your styles now the light shine biggest on him and tell you thank i don’t need u no more now you piss off right and he fuck you so smooth that no one know or care but the industry know but they gotta keep their mouth shut cause they get a check to eat. Now you really got no proof an it power vs. no power. This is why you have to beware of this Grimey ass music business and trust me i watch jay from when he was trying to start his rap with jazz o til beyond. Tell me who does he really help what rapper have gotta styles,hooks or songs from him see he got all you fan hooks on him like drugs that made yall blinds.But if you go thru his history and his notes and get as much detail you can you will know the truth… But who is gonna do that!!! LMAO !!!!
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May 19th, 2010 at 3:15 pm
The reason they stay throwing stones is cause they off they game. Nobody wants to listen to either one of them two dudes rap. Besides philly. It’s over…cut that out…
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May 19th, 2010 at 3:23 pm
The reason they stay throwing stones is cause they off they game. Nobody wants to listen to either one of them two dudes rap. Besides philly. It’s over…cut that out… I bet five years from now they will still be talking about the same shit… Blame yall selves not nobody else. Yall looking like those NBA players who once had lucrative million dollar contracts and nnow are broke….. because they were buying too many carsm, houses, different kids from different baby mothers etc….. Just understand….
Has anybody realized why WEEZY BECAME SO POPULAR. CAUSE REGARDLESS OF THE MONEY AND RECORDS HE ALREADY HAD HE WAS STILL HUNGRY AND WANTED TO PROVE THAT HE IS JUST AS GOOD AS THE LEGENDS…hE GRIND HIMSELF TO THE TOP….AND DUDE STILL THOSE THAT WITH CONSTANT FEATURES MIXTAPES ETC. DUDE DON’T NEED A MAJOR BUZZ HE BEEN HAD IT SINCE 2008. BUT HIS CARTER 4 SUCCESS DIN’T SLOW DUDE DOWN…..
THATS WHY DUDE WILL GO DOWN WITH THE GREATS…..
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Anahilator Reply:
May 19th, 2010 at 3:26 pm
MISS INFO OR WHO EVER ELSE EDITS, PLZ CANCEL COMMENT NUMBER TWO CUASE ITS PART OF COMMENT #3
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May 19th, 2010 at 3:35 pm
State Property still does concerts? Interesting.
Anyway, didn’t Jay already cover all these complaints:
“Only time they exciting is when they mentioning Shawn.”
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BxBully Reply:
May 24th, 2010 at 10:38 am
“I heard mu’Fuckers sayin the made HOV,made HOV say ok so.. make another HOV”
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May 19th, 2010 at 4:01 pm
“somebody turn these boys off”
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May 19th, 2010 at 4:01 pm
That was funny but not really necessary.For all that the DJ could have just cut the vocals out the song and just them rhyme to the beat.
I’m still wondering what happen to that beans track dissing Jay-z? You know the one he keeps repeating “Already” .
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May 19th, 2010 at 4:06 pm
everybody knew the young chris thing…all you have to do is listen to the first state p album and jay’s flow after (he even used lines from chris as hooks) old news…those dudes have talent they need to make music and move on…
they should learn from peedi (the 1st time), beans & sparks. the disses will be ignored and u’ll fade away.
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May 19th, 2010 at 4:07 pm
It was funny at first, interesting even, now they starting to bore me. Correction, I’ve been bored with these now and then jabs. They need to stop, and go get a job! Ughh
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May 19th, 2010 at 4:26 pm
the young bo, in the jone, etc.
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May 19th, 2010 at 4:29 pm
PEOPLE YOU GOT TO UNDERSTAND IF YOUR LEADER DECIDED TO DO A COMPLETE 360 ON YOU EVEN WHEN YOU WAS A LOYAL SOLDIER YOU WOULD FEEL THE SAME WAY TOO DAMN BEANS WENT TO WAR FOR THE ROCK I’M A BIG JAY FAN BUT THERE’S SOMETHING SHADY ABOUT HIM LOOK AT THE PATTERN
JAZZ-O, DAME DASH, STATE PROPERTY, WHO’S GONNA GET SCREWED NEXT JUST SAYING
STILL LOVE JAY JUST NOT EVERYTING ABOUT HIM
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AmpGeez a.k.a. Nahstradamus Reply:
May 19th, 2010 at 4:56 pm
I don’t see why people refuse to see the other side of the story.
Jay has been shady & disloyal to cats since day one.
Taking nothing away from him as an artist, but the way he treated his “crew” is dirty, plain and simp. He not only turned his back on em, but he’s said slick subliminal shit too, almost taunting these cats who looked to him as a mentor.
That shit ain’t cool.
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Missile 6 Reply:
May 19th, 2010 at 6:13 pm
Find anybody who made money and you will find somebody thats angry about it. They can hold on to that anger till they blue in the face, but it won’t make them no money. The hype from the Beans diss done died down and aint nobody checking for him still. just to say it, I am a huge Sigel fan.
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S7 Reply:
May 19th, 2010 at 8:18 pm
People won’t see it that way unless they’ve experienced it for themselves. Dude not rapping about the average joe he rapping about:
“Bloomberg, Russian gazillionaire who majority-owns the Nets and Barclay Stadium.” – MissInfo
I respect his legacy, dude came from nothing and made something. Lets be real, dude is in a place most people won’t see and can’t relate to no matter how much you spend, you won’t be Jay-Z.
Jay is switching up his brand, he’s backing off the hood shit and wants to be that “safe guy” you can invite to the white house to chill with the president and hang out with oprah. Its a double edge sword he has to burn bridges in order to create new ones with people with more power than himself. Now if you sell out tour dates and go platinum then he F*king with you, cause he trying to leech off your fan base (i.e. UGK, Lil Wayne, Drake, Kanye, State Property/Beans/Freeway, etc.)
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Jo Reply:
May 19th, 2010 at 8:56 pm
180 nigga. Not 360. 180. Shit lol.
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jtets Reply:
May 19th, 2010 at 10:25 pm
LOL! That reminds me of that movie “Last Action Hero”
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May 19th, 2010 at 4:44 pm
Young Chris has been over shadowed by the giant that is JAy-Z , I dont know if Hov bit his style but he def mad an influence its kinda obvi hov kept a relationship with him
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May 19th, 2010 at 5:48 pm
key thing this story was while they try use jay-z to get a buzz
was, Jay-Z had breakfast with Mayor Bloomberg and the new Russian gazillionaire who majority-owns the Nets and Barclay Stadium.
jay making money there crying
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May 19th, 2010 at 8:03 pm
Jay did the right thing, i don’t understand why black walk around with this attitude that they have to be faithful to ignorant negros. Beans kept doing dumb stuff by going in and out of prison, Dame kept wasting Rocafella money on artist who weren’t turning over a profit,etc.
As a man myself, sometimes you get tired of the immaturity and you are just ready to move on the the next phase of your life. Jay made the right decisions, hanging with nigguhs will drag you to the bottom. I’ve learn to sorround myself with positive people who are doing big things, you sorround yourself with losers and bad stuff happens.
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stillers Reply:
May 19th, 2010 at 9:50 pm
agreed. smartest post.
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Tuface Reply:
May 20th, 2010 at 6:39 am
Smartest post i’ve read so far Flawda.. Jay is not their dad neither is he responsible for feeding them, if they are time wasters man must move on…
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MzBrittany "Who Gone Check Me Boo" LUV Is Officially BACK!!! Reply:
May 22nd, 2010 at 9:15 am
What your talkin about has nothing to do wih the topic. I agree with growth and change, but this is about Jay-z STEALING the style of a smaller person and snubbing him out. If its true, its not nice, or right. Jayz did the right thing by growing up, sure…But is it okay for him to use his big brand to crush and take from smaller ones. I think that was the discussion.
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HE IS ME AND I AM HIM Reply:
May 22nd, 2010 at 5:50 pm
Booooo this is a cop out MzBrittany/ u hate Jay z/ and u look 4 any angle to try and show ur disrespect. This article wasn’t about Jay stealing Y. Cris’s flow……and u know it!!!!! It was about The old Roc’s boy’s not letting go. Hey u know Dame is running Rocafela again maybe he will sign all them back gain? thst would be nice then they could stop crying…Nope they would just blame Jay when the shit folds…
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May 19th, 2010 at 8:46 pm
“And then over in XXL, they reported that another disenchanted State Prop member, Peedi Crack is accusing Jay-Z of stealing flows… Meanwhile, Jay-Z had breakfast with Mayor Bloomberg and the new Russian gazillionaire who majority-owns the Nets and Barclay Stadium.” LMFAO Info you’re hilarious keep killing the blogosphere girl, your the best.
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nice Reply:
May 20th, 2010 at 12:53 am
how many people did jay-z step on to get there…
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HE IS ME AND I AM HIM Reply:
May 22nd, 2010 at 5:59 pm
No one…. he spent his own money with two others to invest in his self. So he didn’t step on nobody. Those niggaz trip them own selfs up. Loyalty to an idiot makes u an idiot too. If ur a criminal trying to become an artist and u just can’t stop doing crimes. ur just a dumb ass criminal that can rap. Now these niggas keep adding age to Jay cause guess what they’re themselves are over 30. So when the fuck Beans fat Albert ass in the cheapest suit ever….is going to retire or ghost write or something…..He sloppy!!! U know what it’s funny the two last hold outs of the Roc era has so much too say (BEANs and P Crack)
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May 19th, 2010 at 8:49 pm
furthermore 2pac swagger jacked Shaq (ei Hell Mary track) LOL.
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May 19th, 2010 at 9:08 pm
Jay-Z bit stylistically from Young Chris
Jay-Z bit stylistically from Beanie Sigel
they have grounds to be bitter
His Horatio Alger story is admirable but steers the conversation away from his former artists discontent with his tactics
he did them dirty and it deserves to be documented
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bullets Reply:
May 20th, 2010 at 2:33 pm
JAYZ AINT BITE NOTHING SIGEL RAPS LIKE BIG AND CHRIS JUST HAS THE OLD JAY FLOW WITH THE PHILLY DRAWL HOV WAS NICE BEFORE CHRIS WAS BORN
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May 19th, 2010 at 9:31 pm
What a bunch of clowns on stage!…. Why dont he come out with a new single ALREADY, instead of going and doing old songs with jay in them? Because he’s useless…
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May 19th, 2010 at 9:56 pm
Lol @ State Property concerts — cmon Beanie you are so fat ugly and washed up !!! sit the hell down.
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MzBrittany "Who Gone Check Me Boo" LUV Is Officially BACK!!! Reply:
May 22nd, 2010 at 9:16 am
I hope your a girl, if not…that was WILD homo! Why does it matter what he looks like?lol
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May 19th, 2010 at 10:04 pm
Why they trying it. Mans like dem are a bunch of ….
They need to move on the next one.
BIG UP JAY Z, he, is the bigger man , NO in fact he is the jigga man!
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nice Reply:
May 20th, 2010 at 12:49 am
jay-z is the new fat joe. he does work with them any more and he black balls them… do i need to say any thing else!!!
when nas ethered jay-z career. who came to the rescue on hot97 that night, state property! let’s no for get jadakiss…
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Bside Reply:
May 20th, 2010 at 12:30 pm
Umm… How did NaS ether Jay’s career? If i’m not mistaking, Jay-Z still kept going plat.
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May 19th, 2010 at 10:06 pm
LIsten to Just-ice second album cool n deadly. the early years of jay z bit that flow of just ice
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May 19th, 2010 at 11:49 pm
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
now just-ice(?) flow was stolein? “some people hate/some people kill there brothers/ I THINK THEY LOST THERE MINDS”
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May 20th, 2010 at 12:11 am
Let’s go down the list:
Jaz O
Da Ranjaz
Christion
Rell
Amil
Dame & Biggz
Camron
Jim Jones
beanie Sigel
Freeway
young gunners / State Property
what do they all have in common? Issues w jay over business or other shadiness. Now I been a big fan of Jay since “22 2s” and all this drama could be unwarranted but that’s a long list.
Regarding the whole loyalty thing in hip hop, I’m sick of hearing about it. It seems that it’s always been business… loyalty is just a disguise.
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HE IS ME AND I AM HIM Reply:
May 22nd, 2010 at 6:18 pm
FUCK LOYALTY WHEN IT COMES BUSINESS// I GIVE U AN OPTION U DO IT MY WAY OR THE HIGHWAY. U CAN’T TELL SOMEONE GETTING MONEY TO STOP BECAUSE UR NOT TO FOLLOWING MY BLUEPRINT:
JAZ O = WOULDN’T SIGN TO THE ROC… THOUGHT HE WAS TO BIG TO DO SO.
DA RANJAZ WAS A GROUP THAT AGAIN WASN’T SIGNED TO THE ROC/ JAY Z WAS A FEATURE…DUH
CHRISTIAN AND RELL COME ON THEY TRIED AND FAILED… REMEBER DAME IS A PART OF THE ROC. HE WAS THE CEO THEN ASS WIPE…
DAME AND BIGGZ SEALED THEY’RE OWN FATE: JAY DIDN’T WANT CAM AND JIM THERE THAT WAS HIS OPTION HE DIDN’T NEED THEM.. THAT WAS DAME TRYING TO MAKE IT A HARLEM RUNNING BROOKLYN THING FUCK THAT I AGREE 100 % WITH JAY.. THIS THE ONLY TIME DIPSET ARTIST WENT PLATINUM (SORRY MS.INFO I KNOW THOSE UR BOYZ) BUT IT TRUE….
aMIL: HAHA LOL….SHE NEVER SHOW UP ON TIME FOR NOTHING HEAD GOT TOO BIG…
BEANS = JAIL
STATE PROPERTY BELONGED TO BEANS AND DAME!!!!
STOP TROWING SHIT UP ON THE BLOG W/O FACTS
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May 20th, 2010 at 7:11 am
Didn’t Peedi come out recently before this XXL statement saying he had countless opportunities from Jay to relaease the album, wasted Def Jam money, among other questionable shit before he got dropped?
These guys lost credibility a long time ago, i’m surprised these convos are still being held.
On to the next one!
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HE IS ME AND I AM HIM Reply:
May 22nd, 2010 at 6:19 pm
AGREED
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May 20th, 2010 at 7:48 am
IT’S OBVIOUS THEY MAD. THEY ARE BROKE… JUST SHOW MONEY… WHEN EVER THE VENUE OPENS…. BUT ALL THEY DO IS PERFORM THEY OLD HITS THESE GUYS HAVE NO REAL STYLE… THE ROC MADE THEM HOT IT WASN’T THERE STYLE… BECAUSE THEY CAN STILL SPIT 16′S BUT THEY DON’T HAVE NO REAL BUZZ AND INTEREST FROM THE PEOPLE… It’s not Jay-Z who is keeping them from eating its themselves…. free still has that beard from ten years ago. Beans still on some thug shit, peedi taught he was super nice, Chris is still a loyal dude to state prop don’t wanna move on etc… you must leave the past well it is to have a better and more succesful tomorrow…. Jay-Z IS NOW ROCNATION. HE MOVED ON…. Chris either starts to man up and start doing him or he to will be forgotten..
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stevie from 401 Reply:
May 24th, 2010 at 5:54 pm
free’s beard is a religious thing u d*ckhead
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May 20th, 2010 at 8:11 am
“With so many different flows there’s one for this song
The next one I switch up, this one will get bit up
These fucks, too lazy to make up shit, they crazy
They don’t, paint pictures, they just, trace me
You know what? Soon they forget where they plucked
they whole style from, they try to reverse the outcome
I’m like – TOUGH!
” – What more can I say
With that be said…the Jayz young Chris debate is arguable because if you go back the NewPrint mixtape young chris did where he emulated jayz flow and cadance over all jay’s beats young can definitely tell that dude looks up to jay and they are fairly close to where thru listening to each other material on a constant basis they would all borrow styles…
Correct me if im wrong but in Jay leaving Rocafella behind it was stated that he could not bring any of his old roster with him (loophole the Y.G was signed as a group)?? Honestly you can’t be too mad at that..thats just the way of the business
..If Siegel was smarter instead of crying he should of picked up the reigns of Rocafella and kept it moving like it was initially set out to be (i.e the whole beef between Dash and Jay because Dash wanted to promote Cam and Jay wanted to promote Siegel to next in line). Is Young Chris not an independent artist on Roc Nation tho??
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May 20th, 2010 at 8:48 am
Jay has a lot of diferent flows,.thats one of the things that seperates him from other MC’s. Some are bound to sound like other people……. “There’s never been a nigga this good for this long
This hood
Or this pop is hot
Or this strong
With so many different flows
This ones for this song
The next one I’ll switch up
This one will get bit up”….WHAT MORE CAN I SAY
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May 20th, 2010 at 8:53 am
The reality is that this is the music business. You can bring your partners into the game but you can’t guarantee them success. RocaFella gave state prop an opportunity to showcase their talent to the world, wether audience buy into their movement or not is out of Jay & Rocafella’s hand. People tend to forget, It’s business nothing personal. As a businessman in the music business, If you invest in an act that doesn’t yield positive cash flow. You have to let it go at some point because you can’t afford to keep losing money & go broke over a bad business decision. It’s reality, getting a record deal is your foot in the door/opportunity not my struggle is over. What you do with the opportunity that so many wish they had including myself is solely up to you. In no way should you blame another man for your actions. Many are call but a few are chosen.
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May 20th, 2010 at 8:59 am
And people keep saying what happen to “loyalty”? “They were loyal to Jay”. “Jay told them they were fam”.
Note:
People’s strength can also be there weakness. If you’re loyal to someone & there actions shows that they’re not loyal to you. Why continue to be loyal to them?
Forget about loyalty, Judge people by what they do, not what they say.
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May 20th, 2010 at 9:12 am
OH AND YOUNG CHRIS GOT A NEW MIXTAPE OUT THAT DROPPED TUESDAY..GO COP THAT AS WELL..
AND CALL ME A JAY-Z STAN IF YOU WILL OR WHATEVER BUT LETS DEAD THE SPECULATION BECAUSE I LOVE ARGUING ABOUT THIS NAS ETHERIN JAY..OLD NEWS BUT IF GONNA BATTLE RAP LETS BE HONEST WITH OUR SELVES MOST OF US DIDNT HEAR ETHER TILL FLEX OR MR. CEE WAS DROPPING BOMBS OVER IT ON THE AIRWAVES NAS SAT METHODICALLY AND WROTE ETHER JAY-Z SPIT 16 THE NEXT MORNING(SUPER UGLY)….NAS ETHER WAS FULL OF FUNNY CONTENT BUT NOT VERY TRUTHFUL??? THATS LIKE ME TRYING TO BATTLE RAP SOMEONE AND TALK ABOUT THEIR MAMA BEING BALD AND SHE HAS A HEAD FULL OF HER OWN GREY HAIR?? (WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT WOULD BE THE RESPONSE) JAY WENT OFF WITH NAS’S HEAD WITH REAL FACTS TO THE POINT OF WHERE HIS MOM HAS TO TELL HIM TO CHILL..I DARE ANYONE TO HAVE A PARTY AND RANDOMLY PUT ON THE TWO TRACKS INSTRUMENTALS AND LET THE PEOPLE SING ALONG AND SEE HOW MUCH THEY REALLY REMEMBER LINE FOR LINE.. THEN YOU REALLY JUDGE WHO REALLY WON..LOOK I BET YOU GOT SUPER UGLY IN YA HEAD RIGHT NOW..”ALL I REALLY KNOW IS YOUR GIRL WANTS TO BE WITH ME…GOTTA HURT TO KNOW IM YA BABYMAMAS FAVORITE RAPPER..(DEAD)” BETTER YET USE CANIBUS VS LL COOL J…PUT ON THE INSTRUMENTAL TO BOTH SONGS AND SEE HOW MUCH YOU REALLY REMEMBER FROM EITHER DISS (2ND ROUND KNOCKOUT ACES WHATEVER DISS WE CANT REMEMBER FROM UNCLE L)…IF YOU REALLY WANT TO KNOW SEEK THE BLASTMASTER KRS ONE HIMSELF FOR WHO TRULY WON
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May 20th, 2010 at 9:34 am
Info this is my favorite jewel… If you can’t change the people around you; then change the people around you.
Sigel had a shot, Crack had a shot, and State Prop had a shot… Blown opportunity. Sigel could not stay out of trouble, Crack blew his budget on first class flights lobster and shyt. What they want Jay to do? Eat for them and shyt for them. We are products of our own reality and theirs was not evolving. I am not kicking dirt on Bean n them, I purchased Beans and Free last projects and like them respectively. At the same time, I see how Free is creating his lane in the same manner as a Sean Price on the independant scene. And it’s beautiful to me, to see him growing as an artist, not harboring hate, taking what he has learned and building. They say when you lose, don’t lost the lesson. Beans is not learning the lesson. Peedi is a lost cause, he has to look in the mirror and start there for assigning blame. All in all, I am a J fan, but a Roc artist fan. At least Beans, Free, and J… Those were my top artist over there. I think Beans has a lane, he just needs to find it. The hate lane is merging and the road is a dead end…
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May 20th, 2010 at 9:39 am
I been tellin n!ggas Jay stole Young Chris flow listen to Jay b4 state props first album he never rhymed like that
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young Reply:
May 20th, 2010 at 12:02 pm
FALSE…
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May 20th, 2010 at 12:47 pm
Loyalty? Some of you people are just downright stupid. Jay signed Beans and SP as artists. He didn’t grow up with these guys or know them all his life. He was their BOSS. Anything you saw in videos or heard on a record was entertainment. Blame yourself for buying into whatever bullshit Jay was selling.
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May 20th, 2010 at 2:29 pm
okay I’m not a blogger but this is annoying now first! and foremost all old rocafella members get over it!!! Then this thing about jayz stealing chris’s flow and BIG’s rhymes let me break this down one time and one time only BIG had two LP’s and a couple of features Jayz has around 13 LP’s without going into detail i’ll just say to smart people it’s mathematically impossible…Now chris got signed to rocafella when he was 16 jayz was well into his 30′s there wasn’t a flow he hadn’t touched at that point and furthermore between sigel, sparks and chris they never made songs equivalent to the things the say were stolen so idk if I can agree with that and I’m a big chris fan he’s nice but to say a nigga that used to freestyle with BIG L made his career off a 16 YEAR OLD with potential is ludicrous. Do I think he borrowed shit from the artists around him of course everybody does but now that theres no friendship it’s biting……..!!!GET OFF JAYZ DICK HE’S QUIT POSSIBLY THE ONLY RAPPER TO SELL RECORDS JUST RAPPING, EMINEM, 50, LIL WAYNE NON OF THEM DUDES HAVE DONE THIS THERE ALL BORDER LINE ALTERNATIVE ROCK LOL UNDERCOVER SINGERS!!! AT LEAST DRAKE HONEST ABOUT IT
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May 20th, 2010 at 2:35 pm
Now as a real man nobody is gonna look out for you as much as you look out for yourself.. these state prop dudes kept going back and forward to jail who has time and effort for that.. that cost.. they not putting no albums out.. they don’t have no buzz so how can he bring them on tour?? To preform old songs.. after a while people is gonna stop coming to his shows cause its gonna be the same show they saw last time.. second everybody keep bring up this fif and gunit thing.. Fif, yayo and banks grew up in the same nieborhood.. same 3 block ratis… so they some kinda of bond.. they have that family love.. Beans said it hisself “met jay jumped on the album in a week” that’s business love.. he ain’t know him from a hole in a wall before that.. and when you sitting down with mayors, bill gates, oparh and other billionaires you gotta push that gudda stuff to the side to better your pocket ranger.. they see they self as rappers he see hisself a brand.. he cant pull them along if they still got one foot still stuck in the hood.. Bleek, ty-ty still eating good.. they ain’t complaining.. its about playing your role..
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May 20th, 2010 at 3:42 pm
It absolutely neccessary to weed people out of your life. My first promotion I went to my man and said..look with this promotion I am solid enough to attempt many of the things we previously planned since childhood..he obviously did not care because he refused to get a job to put the paper together. I should not have to put off childhood dreams as a result of this. I moved forward with another friend and we begin to not only make money but had a major investor interested in joining us. He obvious did not care because he went to jail for selling crack in our community. I bailed him out and advised him that this could jeopardize everything. He obvious still did not care because he was arrested two weeks later for possession and intent to distribute. I visited him after sentencing and paid a small price to buy him out. I continued are venture on my own and later sold it off for a huge profit. I am no longer in the hood, married, child in a school, and they are still talking 6 years later that abandoned them…Yeah Right..Grow the F**K Up!!
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May 20th, 2010 at 5:02 pm
@ BkPipezPause:you forgot Foxy Brown
his biggest lottery ticket
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May 20th, 2010 at 11:23 pm
that shit was childish, niggas need to grow up , and get money .
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May 21st, 2010 at 3:51 am
Even if Jay took it, he improved upon it.
Tim Hardaway created the modern-day crossover dribble, but Iverson “jacked” it and took it to the next level.
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DJ Chuck N.I.C.E. Reply:
May 21st, 2010 at 11:10 pm
I don’t know how old you are but A.I. crossover was never as good as Tim’s in his prime.
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May 22nd, 2010 at 9:19 am
I admire Young Chris humbleness. Hes not flipping out cause he know the world is going to turn against him as soon as he says anything that doesnt blow rainbows out of Jayz butt! He is in a hard place, but I see you Chris and I hear you. He knows what Jayz did, and so does Jay. Why do you think Chris is the only member of SP that Jayz still talks to, and tries to help out? Cause he knows what he did, and he doesnt want Chris to flip out, or point it out so hes keepin things leveled.
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June 10th, 2011 at 12:00 pm
I didn’t even realize that this was going on, I’m like a year late to the party here, but I haven’t honestly been following Jay Z stuff recently!
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