Wed 7 Jan 2009
Interesting*….Joe Budden, DJ Vlad, and Angela Yee
Posted by Miss Info under beef , crony-ism , sigh.... , things I learned on twitter , videos[32] Comments
*and by interesting…I mean to say, blood-pressure-inflating hulk-inducing.
I gotta take a walk outside in the freezing rain….be back later. Maybe way later.
(thanks to Shake)
January 7th, 2009 at 4:30 pm
Man this dude only see’s things his way he should just quit while he ahead.Simple i respected the apologie and what he did as a mature adult but other than that shut the fuck up because its getting boring.
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January 7th, 2009 at 4:31 pm
Freezing cold/rain? That’s odd…its clear skies and about 70 degrees outside the window here in San Diego.
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missinfo Reply:
January 7th, 2009 at 4:36 pm
thanks for that. jerk
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January 7th, 2009 at 4:45 pm
haha ok back to my original opinion. VladTV is just a microcosm of what the world is now. We all watch TMZ and go to these beef websites and buy Smack DVD’s cuz we like the drama. Too bad that hip hop now is all about fightin’.
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missinfo Reply:
January 7th, 2009 at 5:34 pm
we always liked drama…but its feeling different now. the demand, created supply, which created customer satisfaction which has now created manufactured production and oversupply, which has created customer numbness, which has created….
ugh
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January 7th, 2009 at 4:46 pm
I wish this was the Joe that NY would have heard on the radio when he had his temporary hosting slot. Budden’s has been dropping serious doses of reality that a lot of people need to hear.
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missinfo Reply:
January 7th, 2009 at 5:31 pm
yeah well sadly nobody was listening to us….so that’s how that went.
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January 7th, 2009 at 5:26 pm
Wow…. eskay didn’t have the whole shit.
I kinda feel what Joe Budden is saying. It does however come across like he’s putting all the blame on media outlets and not himself and Ransom. The basis of his argument are on point though. Media, radio stations, dj’s, and bloggers do sensationalize shit like random acts of violence in hip hop. Then that feeds into the macho ism and hurt egos and that’s when someone really gets hurt. Then what will you say…. Info, Flex, Vlad, World Star, Wendy?
(That question was rhetorical. Just trying to drive the point home.)
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January 7th, 2009 at 5:51 pm
Joe budden is a hypocrit(check my spelling)-he shouldnt air out dj vlad.if joe is real with it he should speak to him privately.the revolution will not be telivised.thats y joe is corny to me .hes just mad his man got slapped n he cant do nothing but kill the messenger.rans is corny too dont get me wrong.but joe needs to check himself first.hes the maddest rapper!!
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January 7th, 2009 at 5:55 pm
Joe Buddens is turning into one of my fav 5 >>>ARTISTS<<< not rappers, DJ Vlad and everybody who exploits DUMD ASS people and cover it up with Journilism should stay hidden under a rock cause we lose to many good men behind shit like that FYI Big and Pac. Plus the video that started the whole beef, Joey didn’t really say anything horribly wrong against Dude. Joey keep up the good work, you will soon hit your stride.
Miss Info was good with that guy from Harlem snuff’n out RnB singers, i hope thats not true.
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January 7th, 2009 at 7:09 pm
joe buddens can get it
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January 7th, 2009 at 7:35 pm
??
who is djvlad??
neway props to Joey Jumpoff for being the most underrated smart rapper
im so over the bs with rap im starting 2 listen to r&b more
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January 7th, 2009 at 8:09 pm
It’s 2 fold.I cant argue about the beef they have.Its real life Ransom and Joe are grown men so its on them to feud if they like.BUT, its on other/us as to if they have a public media outlet to air their feud. Who in here hasn’t had confrontations before?At least Joey was man enough to apologize. But there was a time where recCless bullshit like what we’ve been seeing would not make the airwaves.There was a level standards and quality that was needed for things to be seen. Not just pandering to the lowest common denominator.
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January 7th, 2009 at 8:13 pm
Does posting the videos, without any commentary, qualify as promoting the bullshit ? I think it’s a dilemma in and of itself especially for, well, missinfo..
Based on what I’ve read on this blog, you (info) are much deeper and smarter than that (I’ll save the descriptive adjectives) drama hour report, that most, unfortunately, may know you by. But you do it for your own reasons and, to go out on a limb here, partly because it’s your job?
this rap stuff has always been a really great performance art…and the same holds true for a lot of folks who hold down 9-5’s…
For the record, missinfo is the truth..
chill,
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missinfo Reply:
January 7th, 2009 at 8:32 pm
hmm, thank you i think. but for the record, while some of the topics on celeb drama are frivolous and targeted to fit the requirements of the time-slot, the audience, the job etc, I handle it the same way as I do the blog. So if you listen to it and you’re more of a missinfo.tv type…you’ll often get nuggets of the same commentary tucked in there. Think of it as meat with alot of fat marbling : ) Easier to chew perhaps
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missinfo Reply:
January 7th, 2009 at 8:34 pm
ps: I dont see the dilemma you refer to because when the vids are troublesome, there’s commentary. The more sparse posts are just straight forward….I’m more interested in seeing what others think.
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January 7th, 2009 at 8:45 pm
My comments were definitely meant to be taken in a good vein. I just think at times you’re torn between posting comments/vids/stories that you personally condone, but realize you have a responsibility as a journalist to post.
I do listen to the drama hour and find it hilarious if nothing else..
This can get long winded, but in short i respect and really like your blogs/commentary and overall approach to what you do — it’s the reason I’m actually commenting…plus you’re pretty =)
and, when in doubt listen to come coltrane or ornette colman — they are much better at soothing then freezing rain..
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missinfo Reply:
January 7th, 2009 at 9:00 pm
Ah ha! ok I feel better : )
and thank you so much for both reading/listening, but actively participating. I love that dialogue with intelligent strangers.
ps: thelonious monk got me through some teen angst years too.
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January 7th, 2009 at 9:22 pm
Joe went to far with the “hypothetical” part about Ransom and his daughter.(subliminal) Also, he forgot about retaliation when describing that hypothetical situation. Somebody can get at him, either it be a hit or just a fan of Ransom caught up in the mix. ** We can never forget Big and Pac**
I see Joe is mad at Vlad for taping thye incident, but that incident would have happen sooner or later with another “journalist”, so Vlad just capitalized from that. Yes, the media is throwing gasoline on the flame, but who started the fire (Joe and Ransom). Joe fell for the “attack the queen move” (Movie: FRESH) and its been spiraling downward from there.
Quote: “Those who complain on the way the ball bounces are usually the ones who dropped it!”
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January 7th, 2009 at 10:43 pm
“ps: thelonious monk got me through some teen angst years too.”
^– do i reek of teen angst ? ..if 29 is the new 19..then I’m down.. I’ll be happy to bring back drinking 40’s and reckless credit card spending..
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January 7th, 2009 at 11:32 pm
VladTV is a video website that posts video’s that rap fans are interested in watching. It’s not his fault if Ransom and Joe Budden decide to get on some ignorant shit. If Vlad didn’t post those video’s than he wouldn’t be doing his Job. Is this Journalism? Well, yeah pretty much. All he basically did was show videos of people talking shit on each other which CNN, Fox, and all them other news networks do. Just on a bigger level of course.
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January 7th, 2009 at 11:37 pm
Ok people lets be real. I am somewhat a fan of Joe Budden, but the MORE he talks and I am beginning to lose respect for him. The problem with this video and his apology video is the fact that Joe posted his AppleBee’s video first!! So he is the one that ignited and excited this whole damn scenario. Now I am in no way condoning what Ransom did, but call a spade a damn spade. Joe has these long philosophical speeches attempting to convince everyone to side with him. Point blank Joe and Ran were both stupid for the videos. 2nd point, I do agree with Vlad — There is no difference between the bullshit he is putting up on the internet and the bullshit video Joe put up about running up in Ransom’s crib and threatning to air out the video of Ransom getting beat up. The problem is, most of the opinions everyone is giving is based on whether they are a Joe fan or not. To me, it doesnt matter. Anyone in their right mind can see that Joe Budden is doing WAY TOO MUCH talking in a lame ass attempt to justify his actions. Keep doing your music homie and stop with the videos! Im still disappointed at the fact that you took time to break down and explain whether or not your girlfriend cheated on you. I mean, who does that shit! Rappers are doing way too much talking on videos, and way less writing.
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January 8th, 2009 at 12:28 am
Joe is correct, although at the end when he was blaming the various outlets and Ran he failed to mention himself. But he did say so earlier that he was acting like a bufoon. And he’s 100% correct on all counts. Anyone who doesn’t see it is a moron. The man who amps the beef up plays a role in it as much as the idiots who allow themselves to get amped up and do something stupid. Vlad TV is not journalism. Vlad TV, World Star hip hop and outlets like it are exploiting black ignorance. They are making a buck off of putting the most derogatory, inflammatory, salacious media they can find. They are a microcosm of the music industry. 50 got shot 9 times then they tried to find the next ‘real thug’ almost forgetting that 50 was actually a talented artist (at the time).
If a man had gun and said he wanted to kill 50 Cent, VLad et al would be falling over themselves to get an ‘exclusive’. BTW theres a term for that, its called “yellow journalism.”
From wikipedia – “Yellow journalism is a type of journalism that downplays legitimate news in favor of eye-catching headlines that sell more newspapers. It may feature exaggerations of news events, scandal-mongering, sensationalism, or unprofessional practices by news media organizations or journalists.” They’re basically hip hop’s ambulance chasers.
Vlad, directing American Gangster doesn’t make you a journalist. Maybe it makes you a director or a videographer, but not a journalist. Alot of what we see on MSNBC, CNN and pretty much all of Fox isnt journalism either. Its sensationalism and gossip. When you watch the news and they are telling you what Obama’s daughters order for lunch at school, think to yourself, what could have been reported in that slot. A whole lot.
Lastly there is an uncomfortable racial element to it when these are mainly white men exploiting this black ignorance for their profits. In the end, it is mainly black and latino kids who see this shit, and are influenced by it. Our communities suffer as a result of this. Flex had to slow up in this when the lox and Jay was going through it, because dudes were starting to hold him accountable for playing all of those diss tracks (remember that Styles P joint over the Ray J beat WHOOO!!!!!) and having dudes come up on the radio and talk crazy.
Bottom line is everyone has to be held accountable for their actions. .
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January 8th, 2009 at 1:21 am
@ Kai
“They’re basically hip hop’s ambulance chasers.”
You have the best summary of the whole situation.Its unfortunate how many people will miss the point.
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January 8th, 2009 at 1:32 am
theres a simple solution to all of this. i urge the listening public to GO OUTSIDE!! FLY A KITE! READ A BOOK! PLAY A GUITAR! GO JOGGING! TEACH UR CHILDREN TO FISH!! DO SOMETHING OTHER THAN SIT IN FRONT OF THE SCREEN FEEDING INTO THIS GARBAGE! this generation knows far too much about nothing. why does it matter that this guy slapped some other guys roommate? or this guy has that guys chain? what does that have to do with the product, which is MUSIC?
if worldstar reported that ronald mcdonald robbed the burger king, would you stop eating whoppers? as a matter of fact, dont answer that. cause most of you probably would.
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January 8th, 2009 at 1:38 am
Joe was the first to amp the beef and the first to apologize. Does that in anyway make him excuseable? Hell no. Joe Budden can only be considered 100% correct about everything he said in the above video, if he 100% accuses himself of what he is accusing Vlad. Point blank period. There is another word he needs to look up on wikipedia – Hypocrisy.
Hypocrisy (or the state of being a hypocrite) is the act of preaching a certain belief, religion or way of life, but not, in fact, holding these same virtues oneself.
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January 8th, 2009 at 3:12 am
It’s nice to see Joe take Vlad to task with the definition of journalist.
There are too many parasites hiding behind that title.
Where was all this passion last week?
You mean it took a dude getting smacked to inspire a shift in thinking !?
I don’t whats worse, not knowing or dumbing yourself down. smh
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January 8th, 2009 at 11:27 am
umm miss info didnt you play the same ransom video????!! could Joe sit you in the same seat as as Vlad and tell you the same ish??!! im going to let you answer that one….thanks Joey B
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missinfo Reply:
January 8th, 2009 at 5:00 pm
if you can’t answer that stupid question yourself then you may not be able to read. Then again, you won’t get this reply either, so its a moot point.
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January 8th, 2009 at 12:12 pm
whether ppl agree or not. its a conversation “we” need to to have. the internet-gangsta phenomenon is getting tiresome and potentially become dangerous. enough of the b.s. all of that exerted energy should be kept in the studio
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January 8th, 2009 at 1:50 pm
Joe is funny!
What he said about Vlad Tv or Worldstar is valid in that they promote bullsh*t. But he has no higher moral ground here. I followed the whole nonsense and Joe started it – with “ignorance” and now he wants to distance himself from it. Vlad made a great point in the interview when he reminded Joe that is was him who said he’s take Joe Budden TV to Ransom’s home.
Let’s be real
Round 1 – Joe disses ransom from out of nowhere (yes they had a previous “beef” on was but that had been quiet for a while)
Round 2 – Ransom obviously responds
Round 3 – Joe then gets into something with Ransom and then Joe starts videoing and talking “ignorance” on the internet AND threatens Ransom and offers to video it and show other video.
Round 4 – Ransom reacts and actually does what Joe threatens to do.
Round 5,6,7… Joe tries to convince the world it was nothing to do with him and everyone else is “ignorant”
This is just a guy projecting. He Started the whole thing and whether he likes it or not a part of him is just as “ignorant” as everyone else. What he should do is just apologies and accept HIS part in CREATING the whole mess.
Ambulance chasers, vultures and “journalists” will always exist – perhaps Joe should have looked at that definition before he tried to be one himself with that Appleby’s skit!
PS – I think they can both spit but I’m rapidly hoping they’d both fade away by the day!
PPS – There is no “truth” in Hip-Hop anymore!
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January 8th, 2009 at 1:52 pm
Joe Budden is a clown!
My business worked directly with Budden on Def Jam a few years ago and he was a do anything for rap guy. And I do literally mean anything ask Clue man Skane and fellow staffers at Def Jam. I just see this as a reinvention of a buster. When Keith Murray wanted to sock him out on their promo tour together he was very,very scared and not the harbinger of realness we see today. He is indicative of the early 2k dick rider mixtape click rapper who was given a chance to release product but came up short besides pump me up. Sorry for the rant but I am so tired of the rampant lies!
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