Wed 15 Jul 2009
Footage of Inspectah Deck’s Joe Budden diss onstage and Deck’s statement
Posted by Miss Info under beef , concerts , exclusives , hmmm....? , not good for hip hop , quotes , sigh.... , videos[114] Comments
Here is footage from the Washington, D.C. stop of the Rock the Bells tour, when Inspectah Deck addresses the crowd and says that he’s got love for the rest of Slaughterhouse but “F— Joe Budden.”
Inspectah Deck called me after watching Joe’s recent BlogTV comments about the above incident, because he wanted to refute certain points:
1) Deck says: “No one was yelling for Slaughterhouse when I got on. I got on halfway through Raekwon’s set.”
2) Deck says: “After I said what I said onstage, I was never hid from nobody. I did Rae’s set. Then I jumped into the crowd and signed autographs. Then I hung out backstage. I was there for Busta’s sets. I was there for other sets. I was there until they started taking down the stage.”
3) Deck says: “I didn’t come to the show to perform. I came to the show to talk to Joe.“*
*Obviously, it was this last point that I found unsettling. And Deck and I had a reasonable conversation about how that could be problematic. My concern was that, the best case scenario during a face to face meeting is a calm discussion and resolution. But there are lots of other case scenarios that are more likely…and would be highly counterproductive for all parties. Deck said that he understood that, but didn’t necessarily cosign.
I hope this dispute gets talked out, maybe not in person, and maybe with a mediator…but definitely offline. (And I expressed that sentiment to both Deck during the call, and Joe afterwards) In some ways, the advent of livestreams and youtubes and cameraphones has created a new species of diss-tracks, minus beats, minus rhyme, but plus visual plus spontanaeity. And the results are far less forgiving and permanent.
On a related note: I would imagine that the Rock The Bells tour operators are making moves to prevent any more disputes from happening on or near their stage, yes?
July 15th, 2009 at 1:45 pm
goddam Joe Budden is a lame. So hes a PROVEN liar now too? We all knew what he was saying on his “video diary’ was bs, but to actually see the footage now really sends it home.
Someone please remove this man from hip hop, ive never seen a dumber individual than this.
The thing that worries me is that he never thought that no one was gonna have a camera there? He really thought that? This just proves the man is a serial bitch, who just cant help lieing and runninng his mouth to make himself look better.
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tonystar Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 6:10 pm
How was does this prove he was lying?
Im a MASSIVE Wu fan but seriously Joe Budden will air out Deck on the mic, just listen to his Slaughterhouse Green lantern freestyle
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July 15th, 2009 at 1:48 pm
waiting to see if anything is resolved before the ny show at jones beach this month on the 19th. i’ll be there, twitpic and twitvid in hand!!
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July 15th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
Fuck Inspect A Dick
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July 15th, 2009 at 2:08 pm
The new rap motto should be if you rap about it be about it… I want to see the clowns that rap about popping this and that to pop something. I want these cats that talk about moving major weight to move weight. Oh I forgot rap is a form of entertainment so let’s not take these clowns too seriously.
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missinfo Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 4:52 pm
I completely do not agree….anyone that requires that their poets/or rappers live the life that they relay in rhyme is going to be listening to alot of really shitty raps.
Being the best person to relay an oral history does not make them a clown. hip Hop is often bravado….thats why its okay to claim one thing in a song, but different when you say it during an interview or whatever
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pellypell Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 7:10 pm
Shitty raps? To me, this type of exaggeration is shitty:
“I know Pablo, Noriega, the real Noriega
He owe me a hundred favors”
This is the problem with half the nonsense out there, it’s way OUT THERE! I can’t relate to this garbage.
I prefer the truth, if your truth sucks, so be it. I think most folks prefer to hear the truth. Stretch it? Sure, but don’t make outrageous claims. People want authentic, if I want Duck Tales, I’ll tune into Disney.
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Sam Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 7:52 pm
Since when did rap have to be true ?
moron Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 10:58 pm
u say ‘most folks’, well you dont speak for me.if u can’t relate then go watch looney tunes as u suggested. this rap shit is about lyrics, similies, metaphors,and beatz. some ppl are so ignorant that they cant draw the difference between reality and entertainment.
And If u really thought that line was supposed to be truthful, ur even more stupid than i thought
pellypell Reply:
July 16th, 2009 at 10:15 am
Aww come on, no need to resort to insults. Most folks doesn’t necessarily refer to you, hence the word “most” and not “all”. I will choose my words better in the future.
I understand this is about metaphors, similes, etc. It’s one thing to claim you are similar or like something, it’s another thing to spit it as a fact.
As far as my thinking that line was supposed to be truthful, give me a break. I referred to it as “shitty exaggeration”.
And yes, I prefer to be able to relate to the shit I listen to, I don’t know squat about glorified drug dealing, 100k chains on my neck and driving million dollar cars. What I do know about is struggling daily and being a stand up individual, so this is what I prefer to hear about. That other shit doesn’t speak to or for me, it’s fucking corny.
Anyways, sorry you took exception to what I said, I’ll let you enjoy your music.
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missinfo Reply:
July 16th, 2009 at 11:12 am
cool. got it : )
moron Reply:
July 16th, 2009 at 11:49 am
ok, i was harsh,sorry lol but the term exaggeration is when there is some truth to what is being said.If U believe that line was an exaggeration, it means, to some extent u DO believe it to be true. As far as the art of story tellin, i think u have missed the whole essence of hiphop. If u want reality, go listen to reggae, which i love too, but hiphop isn’t supposed to be like reggae.
pellypell Reply:
July 16th, 2009 at 2:36 pm
I am not sure we are going to agree on what the “essence of hip hop” is. To me, it’s about telling “your” story, not just a made up story. I always saw it as a way to express how you feel, as a way to let the people know what’s going on, sort of a like an urban newsletter if you will. I guess this comes down to a matter of preference and nothing more. I prefer real talk, no gimmicks, no bullshit. I lost my hip hop manual, so I can’t pull up the correct definition of what hip hop is or should be….playing…
moron Reply:
July 17th, 2009 at 8:04 am
I cant imagine who ur favorite MC’s are, because all MC’s at some point have said rhymes which are beyond the truth or, not drawn from personal experience. It just takes a bit of common sense to realize when they are not being serious, how ever ’shitty’ the exaggeration.
July 15th, 2009 at 2:08 pm
What did Deck say about that buster Nipsey Hussle though?
I kid I kid. Y’all need to lighten UP.
twitter.com/dameSTATUS
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July 15th, 2009 at 2:20 pm
Looks like Joe Budden is a liar.
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July 15th, 2009 at 2:22 pm
I agree with you miss info. This would be bad for both parties. Deck gettin arrested, Budden gettin hospitalized. Slaughterhouse needs to get rid of Joe Buddens. I like Royce and Ortiz. Unfortunately I have never heard crooked I, so I really can’t say whether I like him or not. but I am gonna check for him right after this. Look how the crowd was sayin decks verse with him, son got fans yo. niggas cant front.
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missinfo Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 4:49 pm
but im sure that during Slaughterhouse’s set, the crowd was cheering on Joe Budden as well. That is the thing about fandom. It can not be mistaken for confirmation.
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July 15th, 2009 at 2:22 pm
Im a keep my comments bout this offline…word
THE
LABEL
WHORES
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July 15th, 2009 at 2:32 pm
some guy named Mr Chernak (?) commented on my blog saying the same thing, that Deck ain’t go nowhere
http://www.rockthedub.com/2009/07/joe-budden-speaks-on-inspectah-deckrock.html#comment-5683104015804101308
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July 15th, 2009 at 2:36 pm
Joe Buddens is a liar, I don’t see all the fans leaving.
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missinfo Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 4:54 pm
but then again, you dont see the whole audience, you only see part….so who knows
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jeff Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 10:07 pm
Just stop it. I was at the DC show. This is not the case. You can visibly see the audience in the video. Furthermore, Wu Tang is always a big draw – that era of fans are the ones who attend these things. It’s not a Slaughterhouse party, per se. So no more shilling for ya boy Joey. Dude is a fraud talkin all this gangsta shit.
If you notice, Deck (w/ a real rap sheet – two time felon) is much calmer in his comments.
All this late day modern bs hip hop stanery needs to stop.
I realize being a “hip hop journalist” (an oxymoron) is about buying access and trying to stay relevant. But please, Report! Dont write something absent or in spite of any objective facts.
It’s not your job to be Joey’s publicist.
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missinfo Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 10:42 pm
what the fuck are you talking about. is this all about me saying that I don’t know what happened outside of the POV of that youtube?
get a life.
I didnt say shit about ppl leaving or not leaving. and I could give 2 shits if the whole audience went to the portapotty at that time. I was just pointing out a simple fact. Every story has multiple angles. And there’s always ppl like you and the other guy who want to see things that aren’t there.
jeff Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 11:30 pm
Whoa…let’s drop the tough talk, allright. For real (more on that later).
But then again, I did see the whole audience – I was there. And if you cant see (“POV”) or dont know what happened (which you admittedly dont), then dont comment. Simple.
And stop with the false equivalence thing (“every story has multiple angles”). Really, cuz you just said you “dont know what happened.” And nobody, nobody but Joe Buddens has said the crowd left. So again, no objective truth here.
And yeah, about all that tough talk – dead that shit. For real.
The other day you were talkin about growing up in Chicago and Twista and about the “lore” of all this gangsta shit.
Well, I grew up in Chicago. Uptown in the 80’s, ya dig. I saw all that shit and know it. You are from one of the richest suburbs in the country, so dont speak on this shit and stop claimin my city.And dont get all fuckin wild on the internet.
missinfo Reply:
July 16th, 2009 at 2:59 am
well, simpleton, its rich you telling me not to comment…you’re on my site, no? and regardless of whtever irrelevant point you are so sure you’re making, you’re in no position to assume that you know me, where I’ve been, what I’ve seen. I don’t “talk tough.” I’m a grown woman who can curse when I want, and usually chooses not to. But…fuck that.
Claiming your city…with the “ya dig.”
Lol….my bad, hands off the city. you are king of the city.
jeff Reply:
July 17th, 2009 at 12:46 am
Simpleton…eh.
You didnt respond to either the fact that people in attendance saw no fans leaving nor the fact that Joe Buddens is your only source. Fuck outta here.
That said, the “ya dig” was a shot at you for all your Jim Jones shit. I dont fuck with that. We say jo. But yeah I claim my city and I lived that shit. And I stick to it. If you not from here, dont claim it. If you didnt live with gangbangers or go home to drug addicts or hear shots as you lie in bed, dont claim that shit or even represent it.
Im not the King – no one would say that in the Chi, it comes with a stiff prison sentence or a certificate. Thats some crazy shit. Northpole to Austin. State to the Lake. CWAL.
July 15th, 2009 at 2:43 pm
…..damn. After all the back and forth and the various folk I’ve spoken too. Pro Wu and Pro Budden, I’ll be damned if you didn’t just express the truest of desires for anyone that loves this hip hop music. I won’t lie I was happy hearing the “Fuc Joe Budden” chants, letting my excitement and memories of high school weed ciphers get the best of me.(smh @ trying to understand the Wu while high)….
After reading what you said I can’t help but hope it does get handled in a mature manner. With NO TECHNOLOGY involved. Hell Info, it sounds like you’d be the perfect mediator for that.
Thanks again for cuttin’ thru the needless bravado and bringing things bac to earth for us.
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July 15th, 2009 at 2:44 pm
Just a Few to show how this nigga rhyme his ass off…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cuOcDKWmMI&feature=PlayList&p=29237AB8130A7463&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=15
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CUQbYe5Tgs&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4VQMUj3f3I&feature=fvw
I LUV THIS SONG TO DEAFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF –
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVZPUO5WWdY&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAaJ2KZVBUY&feature=related
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July 15th, 2009 at 2:45 pm
I’m trying to figure out how one man’s opinion about someone’s lyrical ability in 2009 sparked violence? Deck lost points for this in my book.
At the end of the day, he said Meth couldn’t touch him on the mic in 2009 and we’re getting all this extra static and physicality but nobody has put Meth on a mic in front of Joe Budden. That’s all I’m interested in seeing. He said he was a better lyricist, not boxer or wrestler or whatever.
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7th Tai Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 5:20 pm
Shit could very well possibly turn violent when ya boy Joe Budden started talkin like he had to restrain himself, and how deck was hiding from him, and insinuating that ‘deck don’t want it.’ Deck was rhymin, and Joe’s response was “Anybody but Deck” like deck is not relevant, or worthy…like deck is garbage and he cant rhyme, and had one fly verse in 30 years and that was all his career is. You fail to acknowlegde how j. Buddens was making it look like deck is pussy, and Joe will kick his ass if he had caught him at the rock the bells. And if you realize how Wu get down…they will stand up for each other just because….who ever don’t like it ….oh well, oh well. JB started some shit for himself. He better start apologizing b4 he end up in the deep end of the water.
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BandanaMac Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 7:40 pm
None of these cats are going to do anything. That’s another reason why this is so annoying.
Keep it on wax, pick up a mic. I’m sick of this WWF promo BS.
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Broke Iz A Disease Reply:
July 16th, 2009 at 11:04 am
Usually I would agree 1 million%, but in this case, b/c it involves the Wu, I could def see Budden ending up with a black eye from some low level, bumble bee, weed carrying knucklehead. Ya know? Just on some ignorant shit (oxymoron i guess cuz ain’t all violence ignorant for the most part?)
July 15th, 2009 at 2:47 pm
you would swear these rappers were still 15.
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July 15th, 2009 at 3:06 pm
Man, FUCK Joe Budden.
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July 15th, 2009 at 3:39 pm
joe’s carreer is over
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July 15th, 2009 at 3:56 pm
The Wu-tang clan has a new album coming out soon right??? They are only milking this situation like any other rapper. We’ve become sooooooooo soft as fans. A rapper says ‘fuck you’ and we get all teary eyed, ready to do a stop the violence rally.
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Nightfall Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 4:30 pm
….Rza put together a Wu Album but it wasn’t a real legit release.No ones pushing it.
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V Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 5:17 pm
hahah cosign the last two sentences AC.
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July 15th, 2009 at 4:21 pm
LOL @ the lying audience.
Errrrrbody and they momma know that Inspectah Deck wouldn’t be shit without Wu-Tang. Yeah he’s nice, but he would have never made it on his own, he aint the full package, he’s generic. He doesnt have a distinct voice, over 900 other rappers have the same exact voice.
All I could say is Joe Budden did really well on brewing interest in the slaughterhouse record. First with meth, then inspectah, whose next? I wouldn’t be suprised if it was another slaughterhouse member.
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July 15th, 2009 at 4:29 pm
Listen….the fact of the matter is JOE BUDDEN is a better M.C. than Method Man. That doesn’t mean that Meth isn’t a Legend…that just means means Joey spits better at this point in time. As for Inspectah Deck….well…he is so insignificant. Who has purchased his records???? Why is he talking? This is between Meth and Joey. Let them talk it out or battle..period.
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INOA Reply:
July 16th, 2009 at 12:56 am
Don’t talk about purchasing records when comparing someone to Joe Buddens dog. What records has Joe Budden sold? If you gonna talk about MC’ing, don’t mention records sales. Bottom line, Deck’s diss track is hot and if your man is so much of a better MC, why aint he respond?
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CS Reply:
July 16th, 2009 at 9:24 pm
EXACTLY… WHY DIDN’T JOEY RESPOND. THAT’S THE QUESTION OF THE WEEK.
HE PUT IT OUT THERE TO ‘ANYBODY WHO WANTED IT’
DECK WANTED IT.. GAVE IT TO HIM. AND JOE HAS YET TO RESPOND. IT DOESN’T LOOK GOOD IN THE PUBLIC EYE.
YOU TALK THAT SHIT.. YOU BACK IT UP. ESPECIALLY IN HIPHOP.
OR THE FANS WILL RIP YOU APART.
JOEY’S MOUTH GOT HIM IN WAY OVER HIS HEAD THIS TIME.
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July 15th, 2009 at 4:44 pm
Joe is a good rapper, but neither he or Slaughterhouse impacted hip hop enough to even deserve to beef with any Wu Tang member. In the same way Jim Jones had no right to go at Nas or Jay.
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2GdUp4U Reply:
July 16th, 2009 at 8:38 pm
Truest shyt Ive read on here!!!! Other than Miss Info regulatin on ya bustas trying to get at her on her own web site!!!Disrespectful ass mutha……z
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July 15th, 2009 at 5:01 pm
Talk shit at your own risk! When you disrespect a MC you are fucking with their money and fame! You can get shot for that! Try and take bread from us or our family and you will end up in Lake Michigan! Rappers/MCs need to chill with the disrespect or pay the price with their lives! Times are hard and it’s real out here! Fuck a battle! Get money! WE RIDE WITH THE WU!
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July 15th, 2009 at 5:11 pm
That bitch Joe is everything that is wrong in the Black Community! He is a crab and should be knocked out on camera to teach the youth what happens when you are reckless with your mouth! He is putting his crew in danger! When Joe gets killed we will not know who diid it because he has let his mouth get him into deep shit! The lame has 1 good song to his credit! Crabs end up on a plate with butter on their ass! Fuck Hoe Buddens, he is a bootleg 50 Cents!
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nellz Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 10:15 pm
dumbest comment ever.
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cestert Reply:
July 16th, 2009 at 1:52 am
Im trying to decide between 20 & 21 which one is the dumbest.
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mertz Reply:
July 16th, 2009 at 3:19 am
same here…and i usually post a lot of stupid shit.
nellz Reply:
July 16th, 2009 at 11:03 am
after reading both comments, I’m convinced that it is the same person.
mertz Reply:
July 17th, 2009 at 2:16 am
lol nellz. you’re probably right. what clued you in, all the exlamation marks?
cestert Reply:
July 17th, 2009 at 4:13 am
I wouldnt be suprised nellz.
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July 15th, 2009 at 5:29 pm
I’m not even gonna front and be on some Gandhi shit. Budden talks a lot of shit. Time to back it up bro. Those dudes need to fist fight, no hammers, just straight up box with each other. Because as soon as one guy apologizes and squashes the beef, the other guy wants to run to the studio and make a diss track. Its happened time and time again. Hopefully they do it and get on with their lives.
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July 15th, 2009 at 6:00 pm
I hate the way Miss Info:
1. Antagonizes the situation by giving it coverage. Seriously, you are “worried” that it might become something else? Why fan the flames so? Why not just ignore it? YOU seem to be the only one who cares about this…it’s not like we’re gonna leave your site to go get news about this bullshit anywhere else because none of us want to hear about it in the first place.
I’m only posting on this because I’m sick of having to read about this rubbish every day and maybe if I speak out (for the first time on here) then you might accept blog reader feedback and drop the subject.
2. Tries to appear impartial when it’s obvious she’s on the side of her BFF Joe Budden (e.g. “but then again, you dont see the whole audience, you only see part….so who knows”…err ok? who knows? The guy who was there maybe? That posted the account of what happened? Please…)
3. Is somehow oblivious to the OVERWHELMING majority of comments which show the general concensus of the readers of this blog: FUCK JOE BUDDEN. HE IS A CLOWN. NONE OF US CARE ABOUT HIM SO STOP POSTING NEWS ABOUT HIM.
Please don’t even bother replying to this. There’s nothing to argue about. The comments speak for themselves.
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missinfo Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 7:00 pm
ignoring things doesnt make them go away.
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BrooklynNucca Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 8:40 pm
Ignoring lame rappers makes them go away.
Case in point : Ja Rule
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mertz Reply:
July 16th, 2009 at 3:18 am
whatever did happen to him. i asked the same thing about murder inc in another thread on this website. joe mouse keep it on wax budden. way to go and have everything you said on your ego trip video get debunked. what is his problem for real? why can’t he just keep everything proper? why he need to have this online presence opening his mouth talking sh*t?
July 15th, 2009 at 6:57 pm
lol @ missinfo trying to defend this liar joe buddens
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missinfo Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 7:01 pm
not really. why post Deck’s statement then?
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July 15th, 2009 at 7:23 pm
It’s fuuny how this whole thing played out like a Chess match and since Joe failed to move when he had a chance that put him at a disadvantage when Deck started talking.
So At this time it is Checkmate because no matter what Joe fans or Joe says He came off a liar and a Punk for not doing what he said and SEND BARS.
I wonder who Told him not not Make a Diss track? That should be what his next vlog is about.
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July 15th, 2009 at 7:33 pm
Yo what people fail to realize is that Wu is Wu. They came into the game as the clan and although they’re not as tight as they once were, they still fly the wu tang flag proudly.
Many people on the internets are completely ignoring the fact that in the same youtube clip that sparked the Meth beef, Joey also dissed or questioned the legacy of ODB…..so Joe disses the most famous member of the clan and one of their fallen soldiers…..How could he not expect this response. If you fuck with the Blue lion, would you not expect Voltron to come kick your ass.
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the truth shall set you free Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 8:14 pm
I hope that you don’t mind, but I want to use your qoute on the web cause this sums up what many of us that are real life Wu-Tang family feel about the fact that for Joe to bring up ODB’s name was disrespectful of our lost brother.
I feel that everyone one has a right to their opinion about who’s the best artist, and they can feel free to feel their better than other artists. But when Joe claimed “ODB being put above Blaque Thought is blasphemous” when doing a interview on the radio when he’s already been going @ Mef, there was no reason to disrespect that man’s memory…I was personal friends with ODB and he loved Hip Hop more than life, and while he might not have been the best MC, he loved his artform and was original and true to it till his death. I am friends with the Roots, and knew them before they blew up as well, and I respect Tariq and his skills, but like I said the shot joe took @ ODB was disrespectful and uncalled for
“G”
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missinfo Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 10:48 pm
Yes I thought that comment was unnecessarily harsh. And I don’t even agree with it. However….I don’t think that I can dictate what someone else’s opinion should be.
just as I think its important that you should be free to have your opinion….about his opinion.
of course you can quote me. But I didnt refer to the ODB statement. So please don’t put in that context.
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INOA Reply:
July 16th, 2009 at 1:04 am
For any artist to take offense on a list made by such a horrible magazine such as “Vibe” gotta be crazy. I respect Quincy Jones, but this was the same magazine that gave ” StillMatic” a 2 star ranking when it dropped. Their editors were a bunch of straight out of college kids with Journalism degrees. No wonder they shut down. But Joey is drama queen.
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missinfo Reply:
July 16th, 2009 at 2:39 am
lol, I am a former editor/writer for Vibe
mertz Reply:
July 16th, 2009 at 3:23 am
yes some of us know that you used to work at vibe. HOW DID THEY EVER GIVE STILLMATIC 2 STARS!!!! cosign inoa’s last comment. way to go joey…not. and what he was saying about odb was what was blasphemous. the man is dead. he’s a legend. who you mousebuttons.
INOA Reply:
July 16th, 2009 at 4:03 am
No offense Miss Info. I know you would’ve had more sense than to give a classic like “Stillmatic” a bad review. I trust your taste with this music. As a subscriber to Vibe it was crazy that I supported a magazine that was 80% advertising. Guess they had to pay the bills somehow
Soundwave Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 10:06 pm
Ya. I’m kinda suprised it took so long since he did talk about ODB.
This is just the case of a Group and a family and in a group you can just get rid of a member. I don’t think Joe has long with this group now. WU will always stand for each other because they are family.
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July 15th, 2009 at 8:12 pm
wheeew!!! Instigating sure is hard work LOL
This whole strand is laughable
*chuckling* while I read this shit
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July 15th, 2009 at 8:28 pm
INFO, In order for you to be truly ethical with your work you have to come out and say that Buddens is a narcissistic, bi-polar pathological liar and put personal agendas aside
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missinfo Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 10:45 pm
yeah, I guess that would make me “truly ethical”
what the fuck is my personal agenda.
how bout this…in order for you to be an ethical reader. Don’t come to my site if you think I’m biased, noncredible, and nonethical.
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moron Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 11:09 pm
missinfo did defend budden up to a point, but so what. i think some ppl are takin this too seriously, give a break..its just entertainment… for the record I’m in favour of deck on this lol
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mertz Reply:
July 16th, 2009 at 3:27 am
lol. you don’t need to clarify. it’s a 10:1 odds and we all know who’s right here, and it is not the dude crying about being called out. man.
also yeah she does have a point about multiple sides to the story, but obviously budden was leaving because if deck and the people who went are to be believed, lol, the crowd wasn’t dispersing. whatever happened to “KEEP IT ON WAX?” lol.
July 15th, 2009 at 9:51 pm
Sorry but this just shows the difference between Joe Budden and Deck. Deck is a man of his word. And if Joey wants to call him out on some tough guy bravado, Deck is there. Instead, all Buddens does is go on the internet and talk about how hard he is and how he is the greatest rapper.
Nobody believes you, man.
And I know Miss Info is trying to be stand up and all, but the reality is that if you constantly talk sideways, someone is gonna handle you.
If anything, she should counsel Buddens to humble himself and shut the fuck up. Otherwise, he needs to watch his back.
And for the record, what Deck did was not out of line: he didnt grab a gat or do anything wild; he merely tried to speak in-person to an individual who called him out. It’s a pretty standard reaction. Deck could had 50 dudes trailin Buddens and dealt him. He didnt do it; so stop trying to act like this is some Biggie and Pac shit.
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missinfo Reply:
July 15th, 2009 at 10:43 pm
how do you know I didnt do that?
o right. you dont.
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July 15th, 2009 at 10:25 pm
word
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July 15th, 2009 at 10:50 pm
LOLZ……..Joe Buggin…………should never have gone at legends b…..on top of that he need to make an impact.AN IRREFUTABLE 1. His fans(info included) have nothing to go on but opinions saying shit like “Joe is better than Meth now”- OPINION fam….I’d rather hear Mef or go to a Mef show ANY DAY….It’s like me saying Max B>>>>>Joe Budden…..it may upset u but that’s my opinion just like you have yours…..there is no fact to support you….The only thing I can say is that when Pump it up came out, theres no one on the planet who can refute that Budden took Mef’s cadence and style…Period.
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mertz Reply:
July 16th, 2009 at 3:31 am
cosigned.
everything you said is true. anyone who knows anything knows this. everyone can have a preferance, and opinions are a dime a dozen. but like many have said in this thread and the other thread it’s definately deck & wu fam > budden and slaughterhouse. for real. people know what is real and what isn’t. lol at the crowd leaving.
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Nightfall Reply:
July 16th, 2009 at 9:27 am
….even the other members of Slaughterhouse know that.
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July 15th, 2009 at 11:20 pm
Miss info I think you should learn how to be a true journaist and just report the facts because your bias for certain rappers(e.g cam’ron,joe budden ect) is degrading the quality of your blog. For instance because of your history with Camron, you can’t just be honest with Him and tell Him that none of His new songs are up to par and His glory days are over. So you post His wack songs and His whackness degrades the quality of your blog(one of my favorite blogs) and now with this Joe situation it’s very clear to all of us unbiased spectaters that Joe LIED! And here you are defending Him and it only makes you look bad because you’re defending LIES! why can’t you just keep it real Miss info?
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missinfo Reply:
July 16th, 2009 at 3:01 am
so…tell me where I defended Joe’s lies? Isn’t talking to Deck and posting his statement….letting YOU know that Joe lied?
you’re welcome.
oh, and I’m sorry that I’m not being honest with Cam by posting YOUR opinion about his music. God forbid if I dont share the same opinion as you on everything. I must be lying if my opinion doesnt coincide with yours.
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mertz Reply:
July 16th, 2009 at 3:36 am
lol info. it’s okay. some of us are thankful for a blog that hasn’t gone the way of the toilet. many people have been coming at you because of your real life, but imo i think no one in their right mind believed mouse budden, but thanks for posting decks comments so that we can all look forward to future rock the bells stops so we fans can get in on this sh*t.
everyone agree to disagree. it’s alright. we already known buddy was lying time ago.
i haven’t seen/heard anything budden in 3 years plus and now i come on this website and i be seeing this. wow. my streak is broken
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keep it on wax mousebudden.
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mr_wayne Reply:
July 16th, 2009 at 3:39 am
But u c what I’m sayin’ right, info? Wtf is that? “defended Joe” WHEN? I’m lookin all over ur site for this mysterious link between u and Joeys defense. Lol! If u find it holla @ ya boy, info. INSANITY!
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Broke Iz A Disease Reply:
July 16th, 2009 at 11:12 am
Come on now….
Crime Payz was > The Last Kiss
I hate when dudes act like Cam don’t still spit.
Rueben Reply:
July 16th, 2009 at 3:36 pm
The Youtube vid let us Know that Joe was lying.Not necessarily Deck’s comments.
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missinfo Reply:
July 16th, 2009 at 3:37 pm
oh the backstage youtube?
wait…there was none.
Rueben Reply:
July 16th, 2009 at 3:59 pm
Well Info, the youtube vid gave us enough evidence to conclude that Joe was lying. Keep it real info…Haha:p
missinfo Reply:
July 16th, 2009 at 6:17 pm
you keep it real…you tried to make a moot point that posting Deck’s statement was either irrelevant or redundant.
trust me when I tell you that Deck was for more concerned about the accusation that he was hiding, than the crowd flow.
Rueben Reply:
July 17th, 2009 at 2:24 am
Info I totally understand your point. All Im saying is videotape doesn’t Lie, but men do. You get my point?
July 16th, 2009 at 12:47 am
I have a question for EVERYONE on this site that AUTOMATICALLY made this a missinfo issue: How is this in any way shape or form an info issue?
I was under the impression that this was about Joe and Deck. It seems like some are here complaining that she even updated about the matter. THAT’S WHAT HER SITE IS FOR. To update Hip Hop fans about what’s going on in the world of Hip Hop.
Why is everyone speculating on wtf she did behind the scenes? Do some of you even read what you type before you post? Do you know what her job is?
It’s funny how A LOT OF YOU people posting are doing the EXACT same thing you’re accusing her of. False speculation. In spite of whether or not you think you know what’s really going on, this woman has more access to artist and actual conversations and has insight to wtf is going on behind the scenes.
NOT ONE TIME did I see her take ANYBODY’S SIDE on these post about what’s happening with Joe and Deck.
I appreciate ALL the updates. If I didn’t I wouldn’t even click and comment at all. So why not keep your subject matter on the two artist at hand, and stop judging/speculating on someone for doing their job.
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missinfo Reply:
July 16th, 2009 at 2:42 am
thank you for the support mr wayne. honestly, all opinions are welcome. I just got frustrated with some of the…as you said, speculation. But I welcome differing opinions, just be clear that I will be defending myself if I don’t think the criticism is fact-based.
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mr_wayne Reply:
July 16th, 2009 at 3:45 am
I just keep it real. These bloggers and youtubers and myspacers and facebookers and tweeters… they just reach FAR too much and too hard for me. This Hip Hop generation of fans act real fraudulent. “Ya dig?” Lol!
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mertz Reply:
July 16th, 2009 at 3:43 am
true mr wayne. but i read what she wrote before i hit the comments, reading and posting myself, and you know the first thought i had after i had finished reading the whole thing, i thought the same thing people are saying about her biased…but i rethought that and was like then why is she posting what deck said and trying to clear sh*t up. it doesn’t make sense if she’s on joey’s side about this issue…but even then she never said nothing. so i’m just gonna leave my judgements/speculations aside…but that don’t mean it’s not possible. just like she is saying there are two sides to every story, same thing applies to her, and people can read her wrong or right. it is her blog, and she can post whatever she wants, and we come on her blog and post our sh*t too, but like how people are saying buttons should respect those who paved the way, well she is allowing us to comment on her website. it’s a symbiotic relationship you know. this website could have been set up another way, and maybe we wouldn’t be hear discussing matters you know. anyways i don’t hate info, but i do think joey is one whack ________…and that is why i don’t listen to him. once i heard he is in slaughterhouse i embraced my bias and let it go. don’t even listen to them.
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missinfo Reply:
July 16th, 2009 at 9:52 am
thank u for self-editing, mertz
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July 16th, 2009 at 1:11 am
Bottom line is, Joe Budden is a one hit wonder, Desert Storm reject. I respect Deck’s career more than this clown Joey. Deck is a legend. Has more classics under his belt and alot more memorable verses. The nigga done lost his voice and still killed Joey on a diss track and Wu-Tang is forever.
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July 16th, 2009 at 1:36 am
Well I hope he has finally learned and it will be his last time to try and Beef with people.
Sometimes these things gotta happen to wake you up. But if he keeps on acting like he does then he really will get it.
Joe should be Lucky it was Deck and Not Ghost. hahaha.. Now he would have ran on that one.
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July 16th, 2009 at 2:03 am
To my knowledge Wu-Tang didnt say anything when Maino not only mentioned the whole WU but also had there name in the coffin in the
“Take it like a man” video which was way more disrespectful than joe saying he rhymes better than Meth.
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OldStarterJacket Reply:
July 16th, 2009 at 3:28 am
Maybe they didnt see the video, I never even heard of the song till you just typed about it.
Anyway, there is no point in battling Maino lyrically for obvious reasons.
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mr_wayne Reply:
July 16th, 2009 at 3:35 am
EXACTLY! The ‘hard @$$’ Wu is picking and choosing who they wanna beef with. Kinda funny to me. Nothin’ but love and respect to Wu. Got all they old joints. BUT I gotta an ace an ace and a spade a spade.
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7th Tai Reply:
July 16th, 2009 at 4:50 pm
Yes. RZA did have a conversation with maino about them comments. And Maino DID explain himself, that he did not mean any disrespect to the WU. Rza saw Maino face to face. No confrontation happened. Maino explained on the radio that he was not trying to start any beef with the WU, and it turned out to be all cool! So dead that ace crap. Obviously you didn’t hear that the WU did have a talk with Maino about it. That issue just wasn’t blown up on the net. Because Maino is not like Joe Buddens, and Joe Buddens is certainly not like Maino.
P.S..WOW!!!! I have never read Miss Info responding so much with the back and fourth!!!! LOLOL The claws is out, THE CLAWS’ IS OUT YA’LL. Let the woman breathe:)
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Danmar Reply:
July 16th, 2009 at 3:48 pm
Maino was a nobody at that point…..I doubt he would do it now, but if he did i’m sure he would get some kind of response……where was puffy’s, lil waynes, suge knight’s, jay’s and the lox’s response to that song?
Maybe i can get my friends to video tape me stomping on a 50 cent cd……if his response isn’t up on thisis50.com by tomorrow i’m sure the hip hop blog community will be up in arms.
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July 16th, 2009 at 3:20 am
Aside from all the aggressive comments back and forth, it’s kinda cool that Miss Info even takes the time to personally respond.
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missinfo Reply:
July 16th, 2009 at 3:40 am
well normally I don’t feed into baiting. But I guess I’m just in a mood today. I definitely read every comment. And to be honest I really look forward to that because I learn alot. People in the music biz think they know everything, and of course, experience and osmosis can “learn” you alot if you keep your eyes and ears open. But there are plenty of folks who work in other fields, who put just as much effort into soaking up things as fans, as the ppl who work/live in the biz. Sometimes more.
i guess Im getting off topic. But yeah, I read them all.
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mertz Reply:
July 16th, 2009 at 3:46 am
lol. i can’t believe you just admitted you read my crazy comments. although i figured it out with the mod system the website has. anyways thanks for the forum info.
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Nightfall914 Reply:
July 16th, 2009 at 4:03 am
Damn @ the comments you dealt with today.
Smh for real….
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July 16th, 2009 at 3:01 pm
That’s so true @ that maino comment…I believe they had a video for that maino song on cocaine city vol 7…and they never responded to that….im a huge method fan yet this beef is questionable with joey….as I read I think people aren’t giving joey props…( don’t own one joey mixtape or album) the kid may lie or have his faults but to keep referencing him to pump it up is crazy..dude can spit…as well as meth. Yet I think you can’t really compare the two…joeys generation of rap is punchlines similes metaphors whatev…while meth I would put on a playind fld of a cypher on the block, you know blunts and good times…I think album wise method is more seasoned and is a artist in a whole…joey I think would be more seasoned as a battle rapper than meth..because that’s what joeys generation does…yet in still both talented and they both need to just get in the booth
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July 16th, 2009 at 4:54 pm
Let me preface by saying that I am a huge Joe Budden fan… I will try to be as unbiased as possible…but in the event I am not…you have been warned…
The old adage goes “Opinions are like assholes…everyone has one”
To that extent I don’t see what the big deal is/was… Joe thinks he is better than 90% of the rappers on the list and thats his opinion. I think Joe is better 70% of the rappers on the list… You think he is better than ___ % of the rappers on the list… Opinions… I also don’t concur with what another post mentioned by saying if you mention someones name you are “taking food out they mouth…money out they pockets” Let’s be serious the only ones capable of doing that are the record execs and the fans… If you aren’t making money its not because of another rapper its cause you are not selling and that’s no one’s fault but yours…
I personally think that Meth and Joe should have handled it on wax… cause in reality its their beef
I personally see no reason for Deck to have gone on stage and say what he did unless he was looking for attention… he put out the diss track (which i think was good) and he should have left it at that. He did what Joe said to do (throw bars my way) so why instigate something that could turn violent or perhaps deadly? Hip-Hop doesn’t want or need that!
As much as I like Joe’s music (10 mins, Walk With Me, Under the Sun, Future, Dumb Out, 5th Gear etc) I believe his antics are counter productive and dissuade people from actually listening to his music. He is being labeled a vlogger (or whatever the accurate term is) trash talker, lame, herb etc…instead of what I believe he is… An MC/real lyricist
Joe said it best on his song dumbout
“Chill Joe stop it, skill will speak for you, don’t pop shit”
I hope this situation ends amicably for both parties and we get a good lyrical battle out of it… I would rather see Meth and Joe battle it out… but I guess we will have to settle for Deck…
Thanks for my letting express my opinion and I apologize if my diatribe was too lengthy for this forum
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missinfo Reply:
July 16th, 2009 at 6:15 pm
not at all, I appreciate it
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July 16th, 2009 at 8:37 pm
Miss Info, thank you for having this forum and posting Inspectah Decks response from your conversation with him, and the video clip.
If Joe is the MC he claims he is, why no diss response to Inspectah Deck? INS went after him because Joe attacked his brother Mef.
Joe did’nt respond lyrically to INS because if Deck takes him out in a battle, his reputation is Done! But yet if Method Man battles him, Joe wins either way if he wins or loses since it will put his name out there and get him some publicity outside of the web.
What most of you don’t realize is …Wu grew up battling MC’s in the early days, I remember Method Man, INS and others tearing a few MC’s a new ass in ciphers in the early days of Wu-Tang. People have been taking pot shots @ Wu and it’s artists for years now since Wu doesn’t appear to be the family it once was. The thing is that they don’t realize is you step too far, and like someone said before Voltron forms and it will remind people why other groups feared to mention the Wu back in the day. Anyone that know INS or Mef should know that Joe doesn’t want to see either of them on some street level stuff PERIOD! I hope it doesn’t come to that, but I will enjoy watching Joe get ripped limb from limb lyrically by them in a battle.
Joe then went on to LIE about what went down @ Rock the Bells in his vlog, if he was REALLY looking for INS, all he had to do was stay @ the stage area since he knew that Deck was there with Raekwon.
Trust me, you haven’t heard the last from Mef on this either………..
BTW, here is better footage of the diss @ Rock the Bells, and part of a Raekwon interview that sheds more light on Joe’s vlog credibilty
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqQf_p1CU0E
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August 11th, 2009 at 6:18 pm
Joe Budden is a clown. He has lost ALL credibility at this point.
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April 8th, 2011 at 9:41 am
I am not going to lie, you have lost me here – Footage of Inspectah Deck’s Joe Budden diss onstage and Deck’s statement. I recognise that you meant well and you apparently understand what you are talking about, but I cant state that I get where you are descending from. Keep the points arriving. As the terminator said I will be back.
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April 11th, 2011 at 5:55 am
im gettign sick of people calling joe budden a clown. why is he a clown? because hes calling out rappers to battle? isnt it funny how joe budden is a nobody and yet he still manages to upset the whole of wu tang by leavin an oponion wow you guys are right he really is a nobody thats why he scrapped 5 pages of pure fire towards deck that he was gonna spit over the truimph beat which would have probably ended decks pathetic rza shadow living career. personally i think wu tang fans are just as pathetic as wu tang itself. isntead of praisin joe budden for bringin hip hop back to its roots and concetratin on lyrics which is wat hip hops about u fuckin idiots are more interested in getting into method mans ass and suckin dick im not sayin meth is a bad rapper but if anyone thinks meth is nicer then joe lyrically do urself a favour and dont ever call urself a hip hop fan cause all ur doin is showing people that your just one of those poeple that doesnt listen to hip hop anymore instead puts on a wu tang album that was made in 1945 and tries to carry the flame that was put out ages ago. its a new era u fukin mugs 2011 just incase u dicks forgot go and by padded room and escape route and then ask urselfs why wu tang are even still alive u dumb fucks joe budden makes songs with meaning his deliver is incredible his word play is probably better than biggie and 2pac put together but i guess we cant say that out of respect cause i keep forgettin this is the legend blow job site. so once again dont a judge a book by its cover you fukin pensioners bunch of 50 yr old wu tang fans probably hate ur wifes so u sit infront of a pc takin it out on joe budden and his fans if method man is no nice on the mic why didnt he accept joe budden offer to battle? let me guess…..hes legend, lets see how long hes gonna be playin that card for.
THIS IS FOR THE TRUTH SHALL SET U FREE;
first of all dont beg david icke, second of all the reason why joe budden never responded to deck is because a week before the diss he had already spoken to meth and raekwon and sorted out what they had to and the deck being the desperate old fuck that he is tryna get his face shown again cause its bin a while goes and puts out 5 minutes of pure shite and childish disses do u honestlky think that joe budden never responded because he coudlnt? hahahahahahahahahahahaha a rapper that built his reputation on battlin and hes gonna refuse to battle a washed up pensioner that probably took about a year to write out 5 minutes of dissin… please u guys are lost joe budden would have eaten him up for fun the guy makes 7 minute tracks in his sleep he killed prodigy in about 16 bars without even trying. that fact that joe budden didnt respond was pretty much a respond itself its because 1. he knows hes too advanced for deck. 2. he already had spoken to meth and rae which whrere initially the guys he had a problem with in the first place i.e who the fuck asked deck to even get himself involved. and 3. he made him look like an even bigger dick by not respondin thast y deck was tryna justify why he done it sayin shit like ‘ oh yeh u diss one u diss us all’ hahahahahah yeh alright u dumb nigga u just got embarrased cause u were dying for budden to respond but ‘HE AINT GOTTA COMMENT’.
i feel sorry for wu tang fans they have no points to argue with its actually quite desperate, poor guys. every site i go on regarding this joe wu thing its always the same pointelss statements made by uninformed deprived denial wu fans. the fact that u guys dont even know joe budden songs just goes to show that ur knowledge on music comes from television and radio the 2 most corrupt sources of realness cencored music u will ever hear and know. joe budden left def jam because he wanted to make his own music with his own passion and soul and def jam wanted to make him into an illuminati rapper talkin clubs and bitches and u wonder why joe budden isnt on tv? joe budden makes songs about arguin with god and day to day depression and u wonder y hes not number 1 on ur billboards? honestly wu tang fans dont deserve to even be aknowledged u guys r fuckin pathetic joe budden is the only hope hip hop has left of being real. subject wise hes the black eminem but joe wouldnt be allowed to talk about his shit commercially because hes not white hip hop already has an elvis. by the time u wu tang fans realise what joe budden is about hip hop would have already being cremated havin beign left to the hands of wu tang who talk about how hard it is being a black man in the 21st century while drivin a ferarri. or……. u could buy urself a joe budden album and see just how much u relate to him no matter how gangster or how faggot u are if there is anyone in this world that doesnt relate to a joe budden song u must be from another planet probably uranus.
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April 11th, 2011 at 6:55 am
CHECK IT
ITS VERY SIMPLE IN MY RAP DEBATNG,
JOEY LEAVES OPINIONS AND ITS THE WU THATS HATING,
BUNCH OF OLD SCHOOL NIGGAS STILL STUCK IN EIGHTIES,
GET A GRIP BITCH MOUSE GOT RHYMES FOR AGES,
SOUND CUTE WITH UR METAPHORS,
EVEN THO U SAID THE SAME SHIT U SAID BEFORE,
GROUPIE LITTLE METHOD WHORE,
SO NEXT TIME U WANNA MEET IN A FACE OFF,
UL GET LEFT IN A WORSE STATE THAN NICHOLAS CAGE WAS,
ALL IM HEARIN NOW IS LEGENDS THIS LEGENDS THAT,
JOEY B IS QUALITY AND QUANTITIES WAT LEGENDS LACK,
U GOT RAEKWON THE PENSION VET SHOULDNT EVEN MENTION DECK,
NIGGA SO OLD HE SHOULD BE REPPIN DEATH,
COME AT BUDDEN CALL HIM HOUSE NIGGA?
RZA SHADOW LIVIN BITCH U AINT ABOUT FIGURES,
TRY MAKE IT ON UR OWN WE SEE HOW THAT TRIGGERS,
MAKE THE NEWS WITH A HEADLINE ‘ RAP RIDDANCE WACK RYTHMS’,
I GO HARD I NO IM AXIN EM,
SERVE A PURPOSE WHEN I SPIT UR THE ACCIDENT.
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