Thu 3 Sep 2009
DMX is hyper-opinionated about Jay-Z…(emphasis on hyper)
Posted by Miss Info under beef , hmmm....? , quotes , videos[146] Comments
(UPDATE: the youtube was removed because apparently Tyrese aka…Black Ty *snicker* posted it but then got freaked out by the uproar. Um, hello? Luckily Hiphopstan saved it, and the longer unedited version….watch after the jump)
“Jay is a talented m-f, don’t misunderstand me. But…there’s no soul behind it”
wow…obviously, many many Hov-fans will disagree.
I don’t know how this touchy topic came up, but I’ve seen DMX in person when he’s in “grind my gears” mode (he went on rant against LA Reid and his “chinese slippers” once during my time on the morning show)….and its always entertaining (and borderline scary…but sometimes very well thought-through)
September 3rd, 2009 at 5:21 am
Actually I do agree with DMX here. I mean he’s obviously very talented considering his flow, wordplay and everything. But what makes me not love him (and simply like him) is that he never seem to push his boundaries.
There’s no doubt he has refined a lot of concepts but has he ever done something truly unique and different or been an originator? Hardly.
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HIPHOP Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 8:14 am
You serious?
“There’s no doubt he has refined a lot of concepts but has he ever done something truly unique and different or been an originator? Hardly.” Makes no sense especially when it comes to JZ’s accomplishments.
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big busta Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 12:19 pm
my nig– dmx. i got to give it to the man he”s been locked up cracked up but has always did his thing!!!! EVERYONE HAS CHARACTER DEFECTS !!!!
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QB Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 12:59 pm
I keep hearing about accomplishments from the stans. Rap-wise/lyrically (NOT MONEY/SUCCESS WISE) what has he done that’s innovative? All he talks about is his cash, and how great he thinks he is for the most part. I listened to his new album and it brought nothing new to the table. All he did was rap over experimental sounding beats to make people think there was some innovation there, but the lyrics where the same as always. The thing that saddens me is that people are just starting to see the fakeness in Jay now. I’ve noticed this for years.
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Triune Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 1:40 pm
Okay, enough of the bulshit my nig! This ain’t no stan shit, this is real shit! Not that I like this but the nigga Jay’s flow is the most bitten flow in rap! Name a rapper past 98 from anywhere in the east, and they have some Jay in their flow. Shit, I live in Cali and niggas out here rhyme like that nigga. People love Jay not only for his flow, but for consisitency, his bodies of work, and longevity asides from the accomplishments. Jay may have snubbed the nigga DMX on promo because he didn’t like his new material, but when you’re the president of a label, you have to put the money behind the best product and that’s what Jay did. At that time, the best product was Rick Ross, Kanye, Rhianna, and Neyo. DMX ain’t made a good record since his second album and everybody now that!
yomama Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 2:17 pm
REAL TALK@TRIUNE this nicca
has well spoken u always
know wot yu talk abt!!!!enuf said bro
QB Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 6:14 pm
@ Triune
All popular rappers in hiphop have biters. I know plenty of white boys who rap like Eminem, mad people who try to sound like Pac, and there are Bone Thug flow biters all over the south and midwest. This Jay-Z dude isn’t special. You’re acting like he’s the only one people copy. It doesn’t matter anyway, because that has nothing to do with what I was talking about. Lyrically speaking, what has Jay-Z accomplished? All you Jay stans talk about is sales, money, success, and irrelevant shit. Let’s talk about the actual rapping.
Kenny_Goodtimes Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 3:26 pm
As for being innovative bringing artist to the table like Rihanna and Kanye who are innovative in there own right is being innovative taking the risk and signing these artist when many other labels wouldn’t is innovative making little known underground producers into house hold names like Jay did with Just Blaze, Kanye West, Pharelle Williams, 9th wonder and so on is innovative it would be real easy for Jay to say yo Tim, Dre do every track on all my albums and he would’ve been just fine, but The Dynasty made Pharrell a star The Blueprint made Kanye and Just Blaze Stars. Jay takes chances on new produces that most other rappers wouldn’t for example those in the know, know about the likes of MGMT and Mr. Hudson, but after Blueprint 3 comes out trust me they will be a household names as well. Doing a collaboration with yes Southern legends but very little know else where rappers UGK is innovative many of you never herd of UGK esp. in NY until Big Pimpin from beat selection to flow style Jay to executive decisions Jay has innovated I’m not saying he’s Kanye or Outkast or Missy Eliot blowing our minds with the insane creativity they have but Jigga mans no slouch ask ya self who else would’ve penned an Hip-Hop classic over a 60 year old show tune from a musical Broadway.
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Name (required) Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 7:31 pm
bringing kanye and rhianna together is not innovative. thats being rich. Jay-Z didn’t even sign kanye. dame dash did. Jay-Z was not in favor because Kanye was too innovative and didn’t think it would work. Nore made Pharell hot before Jay. Now Just Blaze is a product of Jay. Jay-Z gets the love he gets because of great marketing thru all these yrs. and great body of work especially the many radio friendly hits. consistency is key.
Big Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 2:06 pm
You know my take on it!! People usually speak without a filter when they are drunk or high which apparently he was and I think hes 100% RIGHT!!
Thats pretty much the same thing LL said if I’m correct, right?
Ask Foxy and Sauce Money if they agree..
Ask Dame, Biggs and Jaz-O the creators of the character Jay-Z…
Refresh yourself on who Klein is…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3fWmXeS79o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qv7BqtdCXoI&feature=fvw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-U0Y9LzBE4
Fuck that the ”fans think” it’s about what’s real..
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HIPHOP Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 2:40 pm
All dem ppl u just listed, where are they now?….u need to question that.
Secondly, lay off the drugs kid its blockin objectivity from your thoughts.
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Big Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 3:09 pm
Layoff homie [edit] its blinding you!
What you see there is who Jay-Z is http://www.sixshot.com/news/7496/
Thats who he is…
Where I’m from even the most shady dudes understand that you take care of your FAMILY,FAMILY!! Not strangers, people you lived with not industry niggas!!
The only thing you have to respect about Jay-Z is that he applied those shady white boy business tactics to real life friendships and family relationships..You dont do that! Those white boys are different, there is no such thing as friendships with them unless the friend is financially a peer and thats what we’re seeing from Jay-Z!! Dudes a fraud and you dont have to be a hater to see that… How can you make up with Nas and not Dame Dash? Are you fuckin serious?
I’m sure Steve Jobs felt some sorta way seeing Bill Gates doing his numbers why he fell off, lost control of Apple and had some hard times but I bet you if Jobs had gone to prison and came back broke he would have been doing the same thing as these guys and would be on a video calling dude a fraud…
Datruth Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 3:31 pm
riune Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 1:40 pm
Okay, enough of the bulshit my nig! This ain’t no stan shit, this is real shit! Not that I like this but the nigga Jay’s flow is the most bitten flow in rap! Name a rapper past 98 from anywhere in the east, and they have some Jay in their flow. Shit, I live in Cali and niggas out here rhyme like that nigga. People love Jay not only for his flow, but for consisitency, his bodies of work, and longevity asides from the accomplishments. Jay may have snubbed the nigga DMX on promo because he didn’t like his new material, but when you’re the president of a label, you have to put the money behind the best product and that’s what Jay did. At that time, the best product was Rick Ross, Kanye, Rhianna, and Neyo. DMX ain’t made a good record since his second album and everybody now that!
^^^^
My dude jay-Z took Jaz-O style and run with it. Not only that he copied Big flow and style and got away with it. So they not really bite Jay style they biting jaz-o and big if you really think about.
http://www.e3global.net
Big Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 3:56 pm
@DaTruth…
Dog mufukas can’t handle the truth…
Like Klien said Jay-Z was a fucking rapper in 80’s… He stole his entire rapper concept from the life of Klien even down to the wanting out of the game part.. Was allowed to run with if because it was on the strength of real dudes…
After getting the image and swag of something he never really was put with Jaz-O who gave him the industry and the flow making him Jaz-Jr aka the fast flow until he started jackin Nas style with Illmatic then he switched up to the hood stories making Reasonable Doubt more like Illmatic 2.0 with the street swag and stories of Klien.. moved onto Biggie nob and word play jacked that and being the student of the game as he was STOLE LINES FROM EVERYWHERE from 1996 til 2005 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybEZF4Vbe3A ..Blended a few words of his own to make it seem like his.
Took over def jam on the basis of his con and started dick riding the South and fucked over the entire Def Jam roster, LL, Method Man, DMX AND JUST ABOUT EVERYONE ELSE!!! Now NY Hip Hop is dead!! fake ass nigga b
MR GREASE Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 10:12 pm
IF JAY Z BIT KLEIN, JAZ O WHY ARE THEY BUMS???!!!!!
JAZ-O is bum, a mockery and disgrace. If he is as great as you think he is why oh why doesn’t he have a deal even on indie why doesn’t anybody care about his music? He’s like 100 mad about sh!t that even his kids if he has any don’t care about. All this crying…..I heard mofo’s said they made Hov/Made Hov say okay, make another Hov!
Jay Z made 10 plus albums off what biting you dudes is clowns!!!!!
Why Jay Z doesn’t do this and that for Dame thats GAY!!!Plain and simple what you want to see Jay-Z holding hands and taking walks in the park with Dame??WTF???
BP3 is on the way, a tour is on the way buy the album or don’t buy the album the choice is yours but please stop talkin sh!t!!!
@Big
@QB
Ask yourself this, If Jay was a bad as y’all claim why would Nas do business with him after their beef? Stop aiight enuff with the bull!!!
Jay has no soul? Pac we missing you, Aaliyah we missing you , Big we missing you??? What was that? X is on crack whats’s your excuse?
Kenny_Goodtimes Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 3:25 pm
Well Done Triune
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Brooklyn B Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 3:35 pm
@ big
Calvin klein said in a interview that jay gave him a mill when he came home
all this came about cause he wanted more.
u can see that on the DVD he got
TPW Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 3:59 pm
Jay-Z has an excellent ear for beats. To say that he has made “little known underground producers into house hold names like Jay did with Just Blaze, Kanye West, Pharelle Williams, 9th wonder and so on is innovative” however is not very true.
All of those producers were somewhat established before their work with jigga even though some of them had their status elevated after working with jigga. I mean neptunes for example had a #8 US hit with Mase three years before their work with Jay-Z. Check theirs and the others producers credentials.
Jay-Z has always stayed within well-known formulas for his albums that hardly can be described as daring (somge gangsta, some braggadocio and something for the club/girls or radio).
And when he does a concept album he does so to be able to hava an excuse for returning to a very familiar realm of rap (with American gangster after Kingdom Come). Thats just sweet irony to me.
The only reason I’m saying this is that if someone constantly claims G.O.A.T. you should be obliged to be at least a bit sceptical to that statement.
Big Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 4:06 pm
@Brooklyn B…I saw that.. If you go to youtube and search Brooklyn Don somewhere in that 10 part series Klien said that was a lie.. He also said it here http://www.sixshot.com/news/7496/
I’ve been going hard on Jay-Z for about 2 weeks now.. I’m just not feeling him.. Not even as a rapper anymore… I deleted ever Jay-Z album I had off my ipod 2 weeks ago and personally wont listen to him by choice every again
Big Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 4:21 pm
@TPW
Everything you said was dead on.. Jay-Z the GOAT YEAH RIGHT!
He has to get past Kane, KRS, Moe Dee and LL before he can even start to think about laying claim on that title..
big Reply:
September 4th, 2009 at 3:06 am
DAMN I LOVE DMX!!
THATS MY NIGGA YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THAT SHIT WAS CRAZY HAHAHAHAHA
But son is strictly driven by money like X said and thats real because Dame brother said the same thing on a video earlier in the week!!!
THIS JUST ISN’T JAY-Z WEEK HAHAHAHAH WHACK ASS NIGGA!!
September 3rd, 2009 at 5:41 am
dayum! I knew he felt some kinda way about Jay when he was leaving def jam but damn! lol He went IN on Jay right there…Say what you will about X now, but you cant take away from the fact that he was once Hip-Hop’s best live show. Im actually surprized he managed to make some legit points against Hov despite his “altered state” these days.
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September 3rd, 2009 at 6:01 am
There are times when simple audio don’t do things justice. His mannerisms are inexplicable, but entertaining as all hell
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September 3rd, 2009 at 6:36 am
Thanks for posting that Info. X might be a crackhead but I got love for that cat. He’s always real and always entertaining.
I’d love for him and Swizz to just grind it out and make one full album again.
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September 3rd, 2009 at 6:41 am
Dude needs to get off that crack.
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job Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 7:47 am
as cracked out as he might be, he makes a whole lot of sense.theres no heart in it no more
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alijah green Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 11:26 am
what world do you live in heart dont get you no where but stepped on. you see where dmx is and where jay is where do you want to be. choose a side pick one
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Word up! Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 1:08 pm
True! DMX said his side. But why did Jay just say he was dope, after hearing his work, then stepped off in champletas(lol)? Maybe b/c son a crackhead? I don’t think DMX will ever stop beamin up. He may just end up like DJ AM.(sad) D need to stop worryin bout music and worry about detox! Son whole mannerisms like he flyin in that clip.
tooni Reply:
September 4th, 2009 at 7:22 am
heart dont get u nowhere?! wat a pr!ck. Thats why over half u americans are unemployed, and overweight. its not dmxs heart thats holding him back.its the crack u dumb ass cant u see?
tooni Reply:
September 4th, 2009 at 7:30 am
ur ignorance has p!ssed me off…i think u have completly misunderstood wat is meant by the term, ‘having heart’…it doesnt mean being stepped on u idiot, it means the exact opposite.
September 3rd, 2009 at 7:05 am
I dont know something about this video (the full video) was inspirational, enjoy life everyday
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September 3rd, 2009 at 7:12 am
DMX wasn’t high during this I don’t believe this is just him and since most people aren’t like this they automatically think he’s on something I love DMX he’s tha real just like Tupac Shakur ya know like tha lil wayne all that shit does nothing for me but X gon brang tha real and you need that.
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September 3rd, 2009 at 7:12 am
yea, you can tell he was very hurt by Jay-Z. Yea Crack is wack and he need to take better care of himself but he still saying some smart shit when you listen to him. He just not trippin w/o a map like marbury
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September 3rd, 2009 at 7:23 am
eh he’s not totally wrong. jay-z is one of my favorite artists but he has become more of a business man than an artist, always playing it “safe” even though he’s in a position that permits him to do whatever the f*ck he wants to.
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September 3rd, 2009 at 7:42 am
I actually have to agree with him on this one. Like the 1st commentor said, he doesn’t push boundaries. That’s hip hop’s challenge right now – its not challenging. How are you the best out and, while you’re skillful, you don’t challenge anyone (not talking about battling) let alone yourself.
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HIPHOP Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 8:20 am
Logic is not neccessarily based on truth, I give him credit for actually having a point and not just rambling bs, but come on kids, all this not challenging anyone or himself, and not pushing boundaries rhetoric is jus pure nonsense.
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Slimm Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 11:35 am
I agree. Its nonsense. Its making a oblivious statement that cant be proven by fact, only opinion. The man has a song with rock singers we’ve never heard of before now, and hes not “pushing boundaries”. Crazy.
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Logic the DA Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 12:45 pm
Huh?
If we know what the bounderies are, we can easily figure out if someone is pushing them or not. There’s no opinion there. It’s easily proven. What are you talking about?
“The man has a song with rock singers we’ve never heard of before now…” Was this sarcasm? Is that really your example of “pushing boundaries”?
Cal State Long Beach Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 2:55 pm
thats not pushing boundaries cause run dmc was the originators of that shit but maybe you dont know about the legends. Shit Lil Wayne is the dude who is doing that right now too Rudolph or watever his name is. Jay didn’t push the boundaries he’s just copying other and didn’t he say “stop singing you boys t-paying too much” hes a swagger jacker and bi-polar, are you cool w/ the new class or are you waging war as stated in D.O.A, make up your mind you old fart. DMX wat up read my comment your the shit i got luv for you out here in Cali
nellz Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 9:55 pm
rock singers like who? everyone of those people are well established. He gets who’s hot on his features.
September 3rd, 2009 at 7:46 am
X is a crackhead wow his opinion means alot
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September 3rd, 2009 at 7:53 am
damn…LA Reid’s chinese slippers (and lip gloss) to Jay-Z’s chancletas…
also, when he went on his rant against LA didn’t he say niggas was “cat niggas”?
fucking hilarious!
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September 3rd, 2009 at 8:39 am
THeres some bullshitters on here lol, and Dmx cant talk about heart or love . How many no shows has he had ?
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September 3rd, 2009 at 8:53 am
X thinks Hov should wear Tims on the beach.
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September 3rd, 2009 at 9:04 am
cocaine is one hell of a drug.
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September 3rd, 2009 at 9:17 am
DMX has some demons, and IMO some psych issues he needs to deal with. Maybe its not “hood” to see a shrink, but the bipolar nature of this dude seems more clinical than contrived.
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September 3rd, 2009 at 9:19 am
If you watch the video on mute, X looks like the rambling smokers you are likely to find in any subway station, bus stop, or public park!
Take it off mute and he really fits the bill!!
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September 3rd, 2009 at 9:37 am
DMX is tha man lol. Chancletas rofl Cam’ron scared Jay for life on that one. Jay has always been for the money and trying to look cool and shown no passion! The dude takes no risk in his music and the shit is boring after awhile and simply sold out. Damn how many dudes left Def Jam because of this dude???!!!
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Kreole Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 12:48 pm
Again with the sandals…
I’d like to see y’all in the south of France with your hoodies and timbs on…
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Kreole Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 12:59 pm
Again with the sandals…
I’d like to see y’all in the south of France with your hooodies and timbs on…
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Broke Iz A Disease Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 3:28 pm
Yo my dude was in Colombia last week and I seen the pics of him wearing Jordans on the beach! he refused to cop sandals even tho his girl was begging him to. No passes on the Chancletas! i don’t care where you are or who you with.
If you’re lucky, MAYBE Jordan sandals with black socks, maybe
hahahaha
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Brooklyn B Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 3:39 pm
uh……..cam dissed jay for it but bigged up jimmy for having the same sandals on his SDE album.
cam the same one who took a picture with a tranny and made wearing pink “cool”
jimmy getting facials and shit
hating on jay-z is a disease
Broke Iz A Disease Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 5:00 pm
Nah its all good, I’m a fan of Jay-Z. Cam too. I’m not hating. To be honest I find it hilarious. I believe Mr. Joseph Buddens put it best
“I swear some of these fans would put they whole life on the line, its like they can’t like more than 1 rapper at a time”
FO Reply:
September 4th, 2009 at 2:50 pm
Brooklyn B jus summed up wat I been tellin niggas 4 years…listen 2 SDE n u hear cam say “C JIMMY JONES STUNTIN IN DA CHANCLETAS” Then deres a vid Jones gettin his hair washed n HE HAS A FUCKIN FACIAL MASK ON!!! N Cam had niggas wearin 6x pink tees a few years ago! But hov is wrong 4 wearin sandals ON THE BEACH?! Spanish niggas uptown b HUSTLIN in sandals in da summer (NO SHOTS LOL)
September 3rd, 2009 at 9:37 am
y is a crackhead who just took a hit and is rambling in the camera which u can barely understand being posted…..waste of time, this fool is rollin ballllls
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September 3rd, 2009 at 9:38 am
Don’t do drugs kids! Nah for real, very entertaining but weird too. Like how did this convo come up between him and Tyrese? He really sounds like whatever happened really hurt him though. As far as the stage show and heart comment, Jay has always been the cool calm collected hustler. Not everyone can be buck wild over the top like X. Everybody does not have the same personality.
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FO Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 11:27 am
Co-sign…Jay was always calm n never mad hype like x or busta etc…but SOMEBODY must like his style hence the millions of records sold and sold out shows in record breaking time….however I do understand where X is coming from as far as the def jam situation …
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September 3rd, 2009 at 9:52 am
Jay-z got 1 million fans more than DMX will ever have. enough said.
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September 3rd, 2009 at 9:56 am
This Nigga needs an immediate intervention and yall jumpin on the bandwagon cause he’s talking about Jay-z. DMX cant talk about anyone integrity while he’s screwing mad chicks on his wife and smoking anything in site. gtfoh Jay keep your business mind cause this niggas out her want you to keep it real so keep making your money.
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September 3rd, 2009 at 9:57 am
can someone get dmx some medication. he seems like he is either extremely anxious, or bipolar. manic would be an understatement. however, he is 100% correct. jay z’s career is no more in my mind after this last string of albums, he has jumped the shark. jay z and kanye have simultaneously saved and destroyed hip hop. the blueprint was brilliant, but this new shit…this new shit is just cheese with a side of cornball primarily marketed toward the hip soccer mom in target who likes to work-out to an occasional rap song.
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September 3rd, 2009 at 10:13 am
“IF YOU WANT THE OLD JAY, GO BUY HIS OLD ALBUM” new shit is fire….jay do jay…dmx do drugs
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September 3rd, 2009 at 10:17 am
X speaks the truth. “no heart behind it” and thats why jay has never been in my top 5 and X stays there.
on another note.
crack is wack.
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HIPHOP Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 2:35 pm
Listen to these then get back to me:
Allure; Black Album
So Ambitious; BP3
Song Cry; BP1
Beach Chair; Kingdom Come
Hard Knock Life; Vol. 2
D’Evils; Reasonable Doubt
American Dreamin’; AG
….There’s more, but just a few to start with.
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nellz Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 9:57 pm
jay is dope, still wouldn’t put him in my top 5 though.
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September 3rd, 2009 at 10:18 am
Like LL, DMX is blaming someone for a career that has ended. Never blaming the fact that he stayed in legal issues, never blaming his drug use, and never blaming his lack of quality music. Jay-Z is not Jesus, he can’t say you from yourself. Get a grip. I am sure Jay has many issues, but he is not the reason for all these fallen careers.
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September 3rd, 2009 at 10:44 am
DMX caught “The Vapors” because he can’t handle his personal life and like a narcissist he blames everyone else for his delusions. Jay-Z is a business man that pimped the game. DMX is a worker that’s disgruntled. It’s sad to see one of the artists that I enjoy their music diminish himself to such a level as this. He needs to shut up and get back to making music and stop making excuses about a battle that happened years ago.
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September 3rd, 2009 at 10:57 am
“I still maintain respect because our birthdays in the same month.”
LOLOLOLOLOL
“That’s what you walk out on your man for, son? For some flip flops? You serious? You serious? I respected you son!!!!!!!!!”
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
Wow. How I wished he’d was actually called by God to become a preacher. He’d have the most entertaining sermons in the world, with guarantees that nobody would have fallen asleep in the pews.
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September 3rd, 2009 at 10:58 am
“In NY I carry a gun cuz I have to, In Arizona I carry a gun cuz I can”
Classic DMX quote from his reality show. Dude had a .45 on his hip walking down the aisles at a grocery store. Yo how you go to Stop and Shop with a .45?
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September 3rd, 2009 at 11:10 am
this dude is clearly well done. hilarious to pass judgment on jay and say he is motivated by money, while it is clear what motivates x. in all seriousness who is stupid enough to invests time and money into a crackhead.
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September 3rd, 2009 at 11:18 am
This…
Is…
Awesome.
I feel a parody coming on…
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September 3rd, 2009 at 11:22 am
Everybody crying like girls. be a man and do some work. when he was @ defjam rap wasnt hot, maybe for the south but thats because of 50 cent, not jay, after 50 came out the east fell off way off, but jay is no longer @ defjam, what has anybody done since he left defjam, nothing but cry cry cry cry. he dont have any heart dmx needs to be a pastor like mase sucka motherfuckers
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September 3rd, 2009 at 11:25 am
Inf, you say many “Hov-fans” will disagree, these people are fans who have never met him or sat in a room with him. DMX is a man that has worked with him and knows him on some personal level.
My question to you is, you’ve at least been around people who have associated with him if you yourself have had no personal dealings with him on that level. So how do you feel about that statement?
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September 3rd, 2009 at 11:28 am
self hate is a muthafucka
i swear i feel like i just came home from a 20 year bid, and im only 28!!!!!!
so making smart money/power moves is corny now???
MF’ers like X and all them “i hate jay z” people at def jam like LL remind me of that person at your job that been working there for 15 years in the same position thats mad cause there home boy got promoted and wont let him come in late or some shit.
grow the fuck up. jeezy, ri ri, neyo, luda, rick ross all made money while jay was prez
nas and fab was able to drop albums on def jam under jays “reign” as prez.
on the extended version of this clip at the end he goes on a rant of loving his life and all that. dude is unhappy inside point blank period
but hating jay is whats poppin’ nowadays i guess.
like jay said
“being broke is childish, and im quite grown”
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princerudynasim Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 1:05 pm
“LL remind me of that person at your job that been working there for 15 years in the same position thats mad cause there home boy got promoted and wont let him come in late or some shit.”
are you serious dude?? maybe you should ask Jay the question! Last i remember he was crying and i meaning CRYING like a little bitch when Dame was going to make Cam president!!
im glad X said some shit because when this man was on top he was waaaayyy bigger than Jay. This man was doing movies, sold 28 millions copies on 7 albums!! thats an avg of 4mil and album and alll real shit and his concerts not one artist alive can touch him. Sad thing is the man has a drug problem
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Brooklyn B Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 2:09 pm
“im glad X said some shit because when this man was on top he was waaaayyy bigger than Jay.”
uh………..are YOU serious.
after the 2nd (sub par) album X was falling off.
X was “waaaayyy” bigger then jay? what year is this when they was bubbling the same time
he did movies……..okay so did ja rule
sold 28 mill copies on 7 albums………okay
thats an avg of 4mil a album…..cool
and his concerts not one artist alive can touch him………..i beg to differ but okay.
sad thing is the man has a drug problem…..very true. so how in the hell is a man with a drug problem gonna be waaaayyy bigger then a rapper thats FOCUS MAN!!!!!!!
oops i forgot the “crying like a bitch” part
if jay was “crying like a bitch” then what is cam and dame doing now?
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HIPHOP Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 2:28 pm
Were you there in the meeting wen this was happening? C’mon son be serious….
On X your right, the sad thing about what your saying, it validates Jay’s even more.
I’m waitin for the day wne ppl stop blaming Jay for not blowing them up wen he was president. Take responsibility for urself ppl. I’d rather endorse success than failure!
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Brooklyn B Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 3:14 pm
“I’m waitin for the day wne ppl stop blaming Jay for not blowing them up wen he was president. Take responsibility for urself ppl. I’d rather endorse success than failure!”
nuff sed
AceBoogy Reply:
September 7th, 2009 at 6:59 pm
If Dmx would’ve stayed clean would we be having this conversation?
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September 3rd, 2009 at 12:13 pm
The bottom line is that Jay-Z has to be politically correct now. His status is so large that he’s looked upon as the spokesperson that can stand up for Hip-Hop. Who else can bring Oprah to the projects?
By playing it safe Jay-Z keeps detractors at bay and continues to elevate his status. If he’s hanging with Oprah, Bill Gates, etc he has to present himself accordingly.
One can argue that this has transferred over into his music. Instead of Big Pimpin’ we’ve got Venus vs. Mars. Clearly there won’t be another video like Big Pimpin’ from Jay because he can’t afford to have that as a projected image of himself. He’s simply beyond that as much as we don’t want him to be.
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September 3rd, 2009 at 12:18 pm
Lets all be honest here is DMX really wrong on this. He told the truth. Jay doesn’t have a soul on it. Just look what he did to Tierra Marie.
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Evil_D Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 2:36 pm
what did Jay do to Tierra Marie? The Jay-Z blame game sounds so similar to ignorant ****** nonsense that keeps many black people in poverty to this day.Blame everyone but myself, cry about the system, then go do something stupid to further destroy my chances of ever becoming anything.Not being an sucker, doesn’t equal not having a soul.Apparently, the urban community never got the memo that someone business life and their personal life are separate entities.No matter how one feels about a friend/colleague/partner, you don’t let those feeling interfere with your business.Under Jay presidency , Ne-Yo,Rihanna, and Rick Ross, all got paid because they put in work and made music people wanted to hear.Jay didn’t pick these artist side over other artist on the label, he simple back what was working.Why should Jay have made more mistake like he did early in his career.Throwing away a million dollars on promotion for a Young Gunz’s album that songs weren’t getting radio play was a foolish decision base on friendship.Imagine if he had of done that with every artist on def Jam.I bet when the dust settle and Def Jam lost major dinero, these same moron that are calling Jay soulless for not helping out artist like DMX and LL and all the other money loser would be calling him dumb.
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September 3rd, 2009 at 12:23 pm
Ok so he makes some points and then it gets crazy but all in all I liken X to all great and notable artist. He is a tortured soul and he has his issues and demons but there is also a genius in there. He will always be considered messed up and coked out and crazy..but he will be remembered and the stuff he says now and in the past will be quoted for ages…all thats to say that’s his opinion of Jay and he’s allowed to have it.
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September 3rd, 2009 at 12:26 pm
like i said, i love the good jay but how all you cats is so uncritical about him is beyond me, nevermind what dmx or anyone else says. he has basically a free lane to do whatever he wants – he could probably put out a death metal record and go at least gold – and he still chooses to cater to radio. anything else aside, how do you people not see that bp3 is a cowardly move?
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September 3rd, 2009 at 12:42 pm
fuck jay z. old ass nigga.
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CMW Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 5:22 pm
old ass n***a? what the hell does his age have to do with anything??
you do know dmx is 1 year younger than him right?
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September 3rd, 2009 at 12:43 pm
WOW…CRACK IS WACK!!! SMFH WHY “x”? WHY? *SIGH*
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September 3rd, 2009 at 12:44 pm
Duh lol. Jay has said/shown as much on countless occasions. His whole “imma hustla/business” persona is built on this fact. DMX has his vices, but that doesn’t make his comment any less true. And Jay isn’t any less talented because of it. His music has suffered b/c of it tho, but that’s another convo.
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September 3rd, 2009 at 12:44 pm
“First the Fatboys break up and everyday I wake up”… as X would say, “you know the rest” followed by bark, bark, groan, mumbled non-words, and a growl.
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September 3rd, 2009 at 12:59 pm
Hov sold his soul a long time ago, and i will be the first to say BP3 is TRASH. The only hot song is “Off That”, and Jim Jones new song “Fast Money” Is hotter than half the trash i heard from Hov. I in no way am a fan of dusty Jimmy, but it is what it is. Info im surprised u didnt post that track, it’s fire.
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September 3rd, 2009 at 1:13 pm
How can a crackhead be concerned about somebody else’s soul?
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mertz Reply:
September 4th, 2009 at 8:58 pm
lol. just because they on crack and whack, doesn’t mean they don’t have a right to talk about anything they want to. obviously dmx (we ride rr in my family) believed himself to be the truth, although the irony as some people have already pointed out is hilarious.
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September 3rd, 2009 at 1:23 pm
You’d think that all the people on here crying about how Jay never “steps outside his boundaries” must not have ever heard of the album Kingdom Come. That’s the same album that I hear people constantly bitch about because “it wasn’t rap,” and it was too soft for people. So, Jay goes back drugs, guns, and money talk, and he’s unoriginal. Internet haters are some disgruntled, never-to-be-satisfied individuals.
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Brooklyn B Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 2:21 pm
1000% co-sign
couldnt say it any better
BP3
9/11
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mertz Reply:
September 4th, 2009 at 9:00 pm
yupp. the internet is that goodness cheese cake and the silent sword that kills. gotta love it.
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EMCEEMD Reply:
September 5th, 2009 at 12:33 am
Exactly, if an artist ran around trying to please these bloggers, they would never be able to make music!
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September 3rd, 2009 at 1:23 pm
OK, if DMX knows Jay-Z then I guess he would know better than us but LOL at people co-signing the no heart/ sold his soul comments… don’t you need to know someone personally to agree with that?
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Triune Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 2:14 pm
PREACH!
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mertz Reply:
September 4th, 2009 at 9:05 pm
no they don’t need to know that because sometimes jay-z doesn’t show his hand all the time. like you know him but you really never know who jay z is. people are discussing this in the new thread posted on the first page of the site about the 2nd part of that xxl bonsu jay-z interview. some dude made basically just said the same thing i did. and this whole jay z hate and he’s sould his soul, he’s become radio firendly, he’s become corporate…he’s not fostering artists at def jam, etc…arguments have been going on for some time now and people have been talking about it. everyone has an opinion. despite that dmx may be right, partially right, or wrong about what he said about someone he worked with, who is this dude dmx who keeps ruining his career, to be talking about a dude with heart. is he serious. no reasonable person would enter into this conversation without recognizing that and prefacing this point, or starting with a discalimer. i agree and disagree with a lot of the comments here, but i think so far some good points have been brought up about both jay z and dmx, and i cosign what evil_d said.
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September 3rd, 2009 at 1:38 pm
Those pink prison jumpsuits he had to wear as rehab….not effective.
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Miss Info Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 1:58 pm
LOL….it may have done the opposite
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FO Reply:
September 4th, 2009 at 4:40 pm
Yet he’s getting on jay 4 wearin chancletas…
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September 3rd, 2009 at 1:44 pm
i can’t understand what hes saying
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mertz Reply:
September 4th, 2009 at 9:06 pm
yeah it’s hard. i’m just sad for the dude dmx. he is one of my favourite artists, but i can’t defend him as a person except maybe try not to judge him.
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September 3rd, 2009 at 2:08 pm
I’m so over the constant hate and nit picking with Jay-Z… first and foremost you can tell in X’s tone that it’s more jealousy and hate than anything…. u beat him in a battle, and he wears flip flops… lol ok X… stop relying on the next man to make things happen for you…. that’s the lesson I learn in everything I see and hear from Hov, I just wish others would see the same…. if X is so much better or of equal talent then why wasn’t he president of Def Jam…. don’t rely on Jay or swizzy or anyone else to put your album out, put the crackpipe down and GRIND.
And with regards to Jay not having heart or being an originator I have never heard anything farther from the truth…. don’t hate or knock his celebration of life and money or his story…. would we rather hear him aim to be dead or locked up? I wouldn’t…. I am engaged in such lyrics like “in the race to a billion, got my face to the ceiling, got my knees on the floor please lord forgive him… has he lost his religion? Is the greed gon’ get him? He’s having heaven on earth, will his wings still fit him?
What else can motivate u if not that? To hear a man say he’s come from worst circumstances than my own and now has a REALISTIC opportunity to reach a billion? Talk that money sht jay! He’s given us the drug talk, he’s given us club talk, he’s given us stories, real life situations, addressed all topic, all critisism… “what more can I say?”
He’s 11 albums in and not referring to trapping as if he did it yesterday, if money and vacations, and business deals are what shapes him why can’t he speak what’s real? Yes having a song with a rockstar is innovated because its a different type of sound we aren’t accustomed to hearing…. DO ANY OF U REALIZE HOW HARD IT IS TO DROP 11 HOT ALBUMS IN LESS THAN 15 YEARS??? With others collabs, hundreds of features, freestyles, etc… I’m over this… I don’t care what HATERS say (lmao listen to the track) jay is the g.o.a.t. and is STILL the hottest in the game @ 40…. fuck rappers need to be comparing this nucka to influential figures like oprah, obama, MJ, or ghandi sht lmao…
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September 3rd, 2009 at 2:13 pm
Look for you somple minded people on this board. For those ranting and raving that you want artists to stay the same is plain stupid. People grow, that’s life. Jay ain’t fresh from the corner anymore. He’s living a different lifestyle and that’s what reflects in his music. Quit asking anybody, whether that be Em, 50, Dre, or any of the super star rap niggas to stay the same. 100 Mil would change anyone. True Story!
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mertz Reply:
September 4th, 2009 at 9:15 pm
i wouldn’t say it’s simple minded but even if jay z wasn’t telling you each time that he opens his mouth, that he’s changed, if you been a long time listener of music you would know that he’s changed. he’s become a better artist over time. you might say he’s radio/commercial and because of this the dude is breeding stagnancy, but that’s only one part of the picture. this guy doesn’t just get who’s hot at the moment to work with him without thinking it through on how the relationship will bring forth good ideas. when i listened to the whole of bp3 as an album on youtube this week (hated the leaks), i understood where the album was going, i heard some interesting beats that i liked, and for a person who doesn’t put a lot of weight into lyrics, i could say that the whole album isn’t jay-z of the old or jay-z of the new. yeah he might be rapping about the same things in the same way but he’s crafting what he’s saying. i think although he’s become a more concidse writer, it’s a good thing especially for him because it helps in the recording process where he can just think about concepts and the beats.
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September 3rd, 2009 at 2:15 pm
the amazing thing about this footage is that Russell Simmons said the exact same thing in his book ‘Life and Def’ when comparing Jay-Z and DMX. The exact same thing.
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September 3rd, 2009 at 2:48 pm
X is saying anything he hasn’t said in some form or fashion many times before. And that is that He always respected Jay, but made it a point mention the differences between them energy and emotionally. I’ve never met Jay but as a betting man those “no heart” comments don’t hold water with me. Now is he as outwardly emotional and expressive as a DMX? No, but that doesn’t mean he has none. X has fought many of his demons in public but who’s to say what inner battles Jay fights that we don’t know about. They’re 2 sides of the same coin if you ask me or at least they were at 1 time in the not too distant past.
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mertz Reply:
September 4th, 2009 at 9:17 pm
yeah. i’m more like a dmx person myself. i wish i could walk around acting like jay z sometime because god knows i have the brains for it, but i’m always being stupid and fucking up. maybe if i could conduct myself even half of the way jigga does, i would be better off than i am. oh well.
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September 3rd, 2009 at 3:23 pm
Jay-Z’s popularity and the quality of his music have an inverse relationship.
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Tochi Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 9:16 pm
yep. Unfortunately that’s the reality of a lot of artists, not just Jay-Z
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mertz Reply:
September 4th, 2009 at 9:25 pm
yeah the day my teachers and my pastor knew who jayz was the moment i just realized what a conundrum the artist life is. like i know some artists who work their whole life for some noteriaty on mass, but there’s some artists who will never be recognized for their talents and aren’t looking for that. one of my friends came up to me in the yard and was like do you know this new artist jay z (rolling my eyes because i had been listening to him for almost as long as i had been listening to nas), and i was kinda shocked because she plays the piano and listens to classical music. what does she know about jay-z. she said she heard him on the radio and he makes good tunes and raps really fast. i couldn’t be snobby to her or anything but i told her, she should listen to this guy nas because if she did she would be inspired to be a better musician, like how he inspires me to be a better artist. jay z doesn’t inspire me artistically. he inspires me with how he leads his life. like i know that if i work hard, and i stop being so emotional, use my brain and think more precisely, that i can be anywehre.
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September 3rd, 2009 at 3:32 pm
Thank U X 4 speaking the truth !! clown Jayz has no heart & soul or passion 4 hiphop. And he doesnt have genuine self respect.. hes a big kid not a man. Any guy that glorifies himself 24/7 album after album is not a man or artist.. A true artist is Nas, a man who couldve made hundreds of millions but chose 2 go against the grain and rap about serious mature topics ! Nas is motivated by inner passion, and not the lust a a dollar. Niggaz marryin da sexiest r&b chich jus 4 attention and prestige.. Jayz is the fakest rap nigga eva !! and the world is now realizing it lmao !!! thanks X
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September 3rd, 2009 at 3:33 pm
DMX may have a point about how he was put on the back burner many artist have had this complaint when Jay was running Def Jam but look at the artist your talking about every last one of them was waaayyyy past the expiration date of there careers with flows staler then a 2 week old bagel LL Foxy DMX all of em where already has beens by the time Jay came into power so what he’s supposed to do pump money into an obvious losing cause that doesn’t make any business sense and like X so crack headishly put it’s about the money with Jay, but my point is why shouldn’t it be about the money this was a business he was running was it not and in business there are no friends simply the bottom line and artist like Ne-Yo Rihanna and Kanye increased profits and the only thing increasing around DMX at the time was his wrap sheet.
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Brooklyn B Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 3:47 pm
what people dont see is
jay ISNT and havent been president for a minute at def jam so where are theses guys albums??
BEFORE jay was prez of def jam what promo they had??? can anyone say tical 0
under jay
rick ross
luda
rihanna (who i aint think was gonna blow)
jeezy
neyo
fab
nas
all sold records and dropped.
theres a thing called artist development which is whats goingn on with j. cole so he dont just have one album.
the hate makes no sense, if jay did what u all say he should have done then he would be a disgruntle artist talking bout promo too lol, but when u know how to make money then it dont matter what position u in u know how to make it work for u so u can capitalize.
that aint nothing to knock
stop biggin up the one that got shot
and the rapper who stay losing and get with the winning team
THE ROC!!!!!!!!!
lmao……..yeah that was a little too much
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Ballzgotw8 Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 3:50 pm
AGREED!!!!
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mertz Reply:
September 4th, 2009 at 9:28 pm
i agree with this. i’m a big ll fan, but you just have to say things as is. i thought he wasn’t being truthful when he would say negative things about jay-z and defjam. he’s been in the industry a long time and should know how things work. like he pointing the finger but can’t point it back to himself. dmx always screwing up his own damn career despite the fact that his potential is more than some of the people in the game now. i don’t blame jay-z for those dudes. i blame those individuals for not being smart.
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September 3rd, 2009 at 3:44 pm
WRD SON?! CHANCLETAS? THE INMATES IS RUNNING SHIT…LOL…HONESTLY WHO FKN CARES. WILL IT REALLY MAKE A DIFFRENCE WEN YA BUY ALBUMS ON WHOS A CRY BABY OR NOT? NO! WILL YA STOP LIKING JAY EVN IF IT COMES 2 LIGHT THAT HE IS A BITCH ASS? NO!
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September 3rd, 2009 at 4:03 pm
Rihanna, Kanye, and Jeezy all contributed their own money, effort, hardwork and time to get where they are. Jay led them to water, and them nigga got their own cups and started drinking. DMX, undisciplined ass, instead of working on his craft and going over and beyond, he’s catching felonies and pretending to be a cop, and stealing cars and shit. But wants Jay to led him to water, grab a bottle, fed him, burp him, and put that nigga to sleep? Because they were boys? Fuck outta here. In 94-95, Jay was busting his ass when niggas was rejecting him, and made his OWN damn label. Now, over a decade later, he’s having lunch with Bill Gates, and your dumb ass is in the studio, high as hell, talbout 4 year old shit. GET A LIFE NIGGA!!! Why is Swizz the ONLY nigga Post-Ruff Ryders eating? SMH
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Tochi Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 9:40 pm
lmao. true.
Although, you can’t deny that Jigga’s not passionate with the music like he used to be. Dude has been coming with weak material since the end of the Black Album. We all know this to be true.
X, as cracked out as he is, is saying that Jay is passionless. That is true. However, the reasons X are giving are lame and cracked out.
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TH Reply:
September 4th, 2009 at 7:10 am
“Grown men, want me to put them on my lap, but I ain’t got a beard and santa clause aint black”
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mertz Reply:
September 4th, 2009 at 9:37 pm
all this talk about oh you don’t treat family like that, we homeboys and all this b.s. you know let me start by saying i’m really sorry for your failing career dmx (i wonder if you take responsibility for your own damn self since you a gorwn man and all), but if my family members ever act like how you act i would dropkick them faster than a blink of the eye. yeah it may be heartless but i don’t surround myself with losers because i’m too impressionable and i tend to let others influenece me. if dmx had half the focus his brother swizzy does, i tell you the dude wouldn’t be laying on the crack like how he does and seems to like doing. this dude should be blamed for screwing his own self. yeah the industry is full of snakes who do you dirty and bs and you have to watch yourself…but dmx is no green nukka. this dude has been putting out records since i was in middle school. so i don’t care what he’s saying now because he always saying the same shit, and he always preface it by saying now don’t get it twisted i respect the dude but this this and this. it’s hilarious that his hipocrisy is accepted. yeah he can give some constructive critique because he’s in the industry too and has worked with the man…but it would help him and all his fans if he laid off the crack. he could have said something entirely legitimate without it looking like there’s something aside from his comments or something personal. but of course when you believe everything you say it’s hard to gain perspective.
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September 3rd, 2009 at 6:24 pm
Jay has always been up front about letting people do them. He won’t hold your hand, in this case your leash.
Secondly, he was on vacation with Beyonce, if X’s girl, anyone of them, looked like Beyonce, he would’ve done the same…..maaaaaybe, not, now that I think of it.
Gettin in Jay’s Ass, is a Full Pause
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September 3rd, 2009 at 6:44 pm
I agree with X. Jay-z is not a heartfelt rhymer
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September 3rd, 2009 at 6:52 pm
This video is about 3 years old. How is this news? This is pre on the lam DMX. Pre white scruff on the face DMX.
I’m surprised so many people posted this old shit.
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Miss Info Reply:
September 3rd, 2009 at 11:55 pm
really?!? this is 3 yrs old? HipHopstan says Tyrese just released the longer version 2 days ago….
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September 3rd, 2009 at 8:02 pm
Im not fan of both, but Guys expect this dude to go back to the hood hang around the hood for hours, smoke blunts,rap and ball in the same projects same street(repeat,Sun-Sat), but the whole purpose of Moving up is to make Money as much as possible and get out of the hood right and make way for a good life?? Not do the same thing everyday over and over till your mad at the one who left out of the hood for a better life. Dont get me wrong its ok to kick it with your ppls who you grew up with but when they not making moves like Jay and wants to feel like its better to be stuck in the same position where u been for the past 8 to 10 yrs, where is the future in that?? You Can be around real ppl 24 seven but once you out shine them, that same homie that was there all these yrs can go fake just like that, theres no application for being real or fake everyone has their own body and spirit to do whatever they please. Oh its gonna be a never ending to this blame jay till hes under that dirt, then they’ll kiss his ass for moral respect saying he was a real dude when they was bashing him saying he was fake(Just like MJ) see how powerful god is to make haters love again after they kill someone with their hate.so all that said Jay keep doing you man noone else can make you, friends come and go. You came to this earth alone and you leave alone.But also while jay is remaining to his business,the white man is always gonna be behind what he puts out,the gov see that the AT was coming to play and opening alot of doors for young black artist,(the gov wasnt feeling that)so they send the one who has the biggest fan base in hip-hop to kill it with D.O.A. they see how rich young blacks are getting, and we taking their money, its all into play. Im not being a hypocrite and smashing jay after all that i said..no, what i am saying he is really smart,The Game Said “You gotta watch this dude hes tricky” and Hammer said “hes doing nothing but playing chess with these guys”.The gov sees ppl from poor hoods making banks with this autotune, they gonna look at it like we doing Just fine, lets make them pay for it in the future and give the money to the white man companies.Think about it jay said it will cause a great depression if u keep up with the auto tunes…the man was throwing hints out letting u know the white man is in control and they will make each label go broke just like that.So hes playing his chess game right now, he got alot of young artist mad so they will keep on with the auto tunes and ft t-pain on records like he wants them to do while hes banking making not so good music that repeats and has reworded lyrics on each track. So yeah hes playing his cards right. Thats why they want to start cracking down on radio stations all over,cuz once they playlist start to decrease then the labels are next on the list to cut artist or be forced to shut down.WHO HAS WATCHED THE VID ON hip-hop and the occult Conspiracy? if not then watch it cuz im telling u the gov is behind it all its almost like we are being brain washed on the low,thats why radio plays the same songs ever 30mins with catchy hooks and its like every song thats out they talk about the same shit but they verses are just reworded.They want us to stay in the gutta and beef allday.No way a Rap artist is gonna have full custody of they own label, CEO’s and Presidents of labels isnt shit when the gov is standing over their shoulders. DMX is a Cokehead not crackhead, do you see him scratching his neck looking over his shoulders paranoid??? No , dont forget coke by itself can make you crazy in ways. But the man still needs help and hes not going to find it at church and theres preachers and revs doing the same shit he does.he just needs to go spend alot more time with his kids and let them warm his heart and a possibility to work harder on his re-comeup and quit shooting coke up his nose.Your own Kids can change u for real if you take time out and Fun with them. I used to be a very heavy weedhead till my kid came into my life and been 2yrs and a couple of months sober ever since. So X do me a favor stop blaming the black man, and chillout with family, they are your only help my nig.
Note:this is just my opinion on the music industry and what ive been paying attention to, this may not be the full truth about everything thats going on, but if u think about it it does kinda come into place.
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September 3rd, 2009 at 8:20 pm
This is some LL-level shit for real… I mean, let’s keep it 100% for all that heart and soul, DMX’s day had passed ALREADY by the time Jay had become pres. at Def Jam. And even in that happening, he made new music and it sounded like the same records he was making since ‘98. The shit sucked, simple as that… then he moves to Sony and drops it, and it BRICKS. But Jay becomes the scapegoat for X’s failure.
The same way LL was citing Jay as the cause for HIS record not poppin’ off- even tho’ NONE of the same niggas co-signing L went out and bought the shit. And once Jay left, L put out an album that STILL did what? BRICKED. So then the question becomes- is it Jay’s fault when he didn’t have ONE hand in your project and it still failed? Does that fall on him, or closer to the truth, does it just mean your shit ain’t jumpin’ nomore? I think it’s easier for artists to blame things other than their music for why their shit doesn’t do well… and a popular rapper being the president of the label was the perfect scapegoat for them to use.
People wanna say Jay did niggas wrong at Def Jam- but wanna use rappers who’ve been out for 500 years as the examples. It just doesn’t add up.
-D!
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mertz Reply:
September 4th, 2009 at 10:02 pm
cosign!
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September 3rd, 2009 at 11:05 pm
Where can I find the video? It’s gone.
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mr_wayne Reply:
September 4th, 2009 at 12:44 am
Thanx info.
We all know Jay-Z’s music can seem a bit “soul-less” at times.
DMX as odd as he seems, might be on to something.
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Miss Info Reply:
September 4th, 2009 at 12:00 pm
well I’m not saying I agree with X, but I appreciate his candor. I think an earlier commentor pointed out some very soul-ful/heartfelt songs by Hov….and if he didnt include it, I’d also put that song about his nephew Lucky in there too
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mr_wayne Reply:
September 4th, 2009 at 3:31 pm
True his entire catalog of music isn’t soul-less.
I think some people feel that Jay-Z himself may seem that way at times.
Not feelin’ that BP3 either. A few tracks are ok but the album as a whole I can do w/o.
I was offended by a song called Ghetto Techno. Don’t know if it’ll be in the final though.
September 4th, 2009 at 12:33 am
I couldnt watch this whole thing but from the little that i saw, i kinda feel what X is saying, like seriously after listening to the BP3 leak, I feel like he didnt give his all for this album, only maybe 2 songs brought me back to “Jigga Man” days, but if im not mistaken, he did state on the album that he’s too “big” and could care less about dropping knowledge. hmm…
on another note: X, please get help! thank you.
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September 4th, 2009 at 12:38 am
The re-upped video is even funnier.
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September 4th, 2009 at 9:15 am
WHY ALL NY RAP NIGGAS IS DA GOAT GOT DAMN I LOVE NEW YORK RAPPERS LIKE METH,BUSTA,CAM,KANE,AND RAKIM ETC…JAY-Z ALRIGHT HE’S LIKE NUMBER 4 IN MY TOP 5 2 ME 1.SCARFACE 2.BIG 3.PAC 4.JAY-Z 5.CUBE
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September 4th, 2009 at 12:09 pm
Oh yeah… “there’s a difference between doing wrong and being wrong…”
Like how DMX turned on and dissed his boy Ja Rule out of the blue?
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September 4th, 2009 at 4:12 pm
Dude is seriously intoxicated. How can you feel for a person who is most certainly high even drunk talking crazy….Dmx is a washed up rapper will never be who he was in the late 90’s. He did that to himself. Now he blaming Hov. Dude it was you who got caught inpersonating da cop in the airport it was you behind the wheel when you smashed your car on the police cruiser, it was you who was continually messing up while fitting charges across america. This is the kind of person you see in the neighborhood blaming others for what he did to himself….. dont feel soory for a dude like this nor side with him.
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September 4th, 2009 at 5:02 pm
DMX is a crazy dude. Hopefully him and Lauryn Hill can make an album together in a padded room.
Everybody can’t be talented and sane at the same time.
I just heard the future of hip hop today in a 97 Honda Civic hatchback. Dude’s name is Prote-J and we’re going to hear way too much of him pretty soon.
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September 4th, 2009 at 8:33 pm
I agree with Triune and DMX was great I look forward to his new stuff, but Tyrese ought to be ashamed…obviously taking advantage and everybody knows these days it only takes posting for about a good hour if that for Somebody to get it and pass it on…
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September 4th, 2009 at 10:08 pm
i’m glad i’m not the only one laughing at dmx blaming jay-z for his failed career. infact jay z may be a part of the conversation when it comes to writing about the bio of the man dmx with the big potential, but i think the words in the book would delve more into how much dmx screwed himself more than one
. i was just googling someone old blog entries and they mentioned the vibe interview with dmx and his wife from a couple years back. sometimes it’s so easy to wipe out all the bad about someone you like, but things like this always remind me of why i can’t even admire the dude dmx for being a smart business man. the crack is back and it’s still definately whack.
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September 5th, 2009 at 4:16 pm
Triune am sorry but do u listen to music 5 i said 5 numer 1’s name another artist in rap to do that 5 pussie ass before u go running ur mouth prick get ur facts right X for life
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September 5th, 2009 at 6:45 pm
diggin the fact that the Dog is back. thats it. now i need a bit of ONYX
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September 6th, 2009 at 8:40 am
luv it…he said he respect jay cuz their bdays in the same month…LOL..i died.
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September 7th, 2009 at 9:35 am
crackhead did he actually say jibbegegrhrhr
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September 7th, 2009 at 12:46 pm
At the end of the day noone is perfect. I think we all might make decisions that are questionable. But we also know how shady the industry is and in a perfect world Jay-z becoming prez of Def-Jam would have been the best move for hip-hop. Maybe he thought his becoming Prez was a great move for hip hop but the reality is that this position doesnt give you complete and total control of a lebal you still have to answer to people about the decisions you make. I dont think it would have been profitable to put money behind Meth,Red,Ghost, The Roots,Dmx. Their not hot any more so theres no reason to put millions in marketing behind those types of artist. Don’t get me wrong I love all of those artist that I just named, but from a Prez perspective it doesnt
add up. People seem to forget that its business at the end of the day. If its not good for business it doesnt make sense to market it. Now as far as Hov’s talent goes he’s one of the best ever. To say that everything hes done has been about money lets me know that you fools dont listen to music you just skim through it. You just listen to the radio cuts and thats it. He’s told stories about how he had to make it to where he is with out his father and how he had to deal with life coming up in the projects. Everytime he tried to be innovative and creative, people crucify him for it. On The Blueprint 2 he did a song with Lenny Kravits thats something thats never been done but people hung him for it. Kingdom come was
his most creative album. With songs like Beach Chair and Do you wanna Ride those songs are totally different from anything he’s done. I don’t know what
you people expect or who your comparing him to but he’s been the most consistant rapper I know to date. Peace!
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