Mon 27 Apr 2009
Choke No Joke DVD Pt3: Dame Dash vs. Def Jam, plus Jay-Z
Posted by Miss Info under beef , concerts , hmmm....? , old music , relationships and family , sigh.... , videos[44] Comments
Choke No Jokes: Dame Dash’s outburst Pt 3 and Jay-Z in Puerto Rico from Miss Info on Vimeo.
Choke sent over part 3 of his clips of Dame Dash’s angry tirade vs the Def Jam staff back in 2003. Its really more of the same chest-thumping that you saw in parts 1 and 2. Whats more interesting in this behind the scenes footage is the part when Dame is talking to his staff apres-tantrum. He hears about an upcoming Jay-Z appearance at the Mixshow Power Summit in Puerto Rico for the first time. (I remember attending that year. Good times. Thanks to Rene and the rest of his staff. Alot of the artists spent their afterhours wandering away from the resort for jumpies. Was that the same year that 50 Cent debuted with Eminem? I have a terrible memory) And then Choke includes a clip from Hov’s performance. According to “insiders,” Dame scoffed at Jay’s dressed up appearance when he heard about it afterwards. And obviously the chasm between the two was growing and irreparable.
The previous Choke No Joke clips #1 and #2 after the jump….
Part 1
Part 2
Dame Dash from Miss Info on Vimeo.
April 27th, 2009 at 6:25 pm
I feel bad for dame that he was going to bat for Jay during this time period and in the end he had no IDEA that he was being surgically removed from the company which he help build. Real gangster move in silence. Oh I guess Kevin Liles got his revenge for Dame’s previous rant from the Backstage Tour movie!
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April 27th, 2009 at 6:25 pm
“go clear a sample.”
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April 27th, 2009 at 6:44 pm
Well BacC Info.Well rested I hope.
I need to go get this documentary. Oh And before folk try to say other wise. Just cuz Dame calls the white guy out on (possibly)”not knowing his culture” doesn’t make it a racial statement either.Hip Hop isn’t accounting there’s a more invested then mere numbers and budgets.
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April 27th, 2009 at 6:45 pm
LOL this fool said “Go clear a sample or something” HAHAHA
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April 27th, 2009 at 7:42 pm
karma is a bitch dame!
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April 27th, 2009 at 7:49 pm
“there’s no Dmx..Ja got Ruined!” lmao..damn 03 seemed like ages ago
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April 27th, 2009 at 8:28 pm
4:56- “Jay’s performing for that?”….. “Y-you could stop taping”
Bringing a camera to tape yourself screaming on people is pretty cool Dame. Why stop when it comes back around on you?
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April 27th, 2009 at 8:33 pm
Hey they def say Karma’s a Bitch. You know what I saw on all 3 videos. A loud,cursing,arragent,belittling,ignorant,
spoiled, crying man because he wasn’t informed about a meeting. I mean don’t get me wrong He was right about how the meeting went down, but there are ways of voicing your feelings and I bet if he would have just yelled for a second then said lets get this one he would have been good. People don’t forget thats why he wasn’t really being considered as president of Def Jam after J left because the see how he acts towards people and they couldn’t have that. Side note did we just see where the begining of the end of Jay/Dame with Dame not knowing about Jay preforming in PR and telling the camera man to cut the video. I would bet my life saves that he called J and asked whats up
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Roamn Reply:
December 16th, 2009 at 7:10 am
You say “ignorant” and in the same sentence you say Dame Dash is “spoiled” HAHA
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April 27th, 2009 at 8:47 pm
The rocafella dynasty was great man. Damn, why they couldn’t work through their differences?
Dame was a bulldog no doubt but Jay was the smooth complement. Any thoughts Miss Info?
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April 27th, 2009 at 8:56 pm
Dame has a right to be mad I guess, but he handled it terribly. Where are the adults? It looked like he was screaming at children. Nobody had the courage or back bone to speak up. That’s sad.
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April 27th, 2009 at 9:06 pm
In addition, Dame’s been called an asshole, but damn! He’s a big one for real.
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April 27th, 2009 at 9:21 pm
He said “Ja got Ruined” so matter-of-factly – cold-blooded is all I can say about that.
But Dame really opened up a Howler in that meeting. Talk about a human resources nightmare.
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April 27th, 2009 at 10:01 pm
I think everyone is missing the best part of this video…….that had to have been Jay’s worst performance ever. The crowd was so not into it that Jay just said fuck it and left the stage…..Dame is a asshole btw
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April 27th, 2009 at 11:04 pm
“Nightfall914″ … you’re a nappy headed hoe. That’s not a racial statement. Just a fact. There.
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April 27th, 2009 at 11:05 pm
What Dame Dash was doing was trying to intimidate the white people in the meeting. You could see the black people didn’t care.
He has personally set back the cause of black executive power a few decades.
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April 28th, 2009 at 12:12 am
Dame was corny back then I worked there he was never hood like he portrays to be corny ass dude Jay Z knew about the meeting I wonder why.Dame had the cameras on and wanted to show off. Remember when Dame signed Cams wack ass when Jay Z was overseas I remember Jay came back and was like WTF and see how quick Dame and Jayz relationship ended. Jay still on top.
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April 28th, 2009 at 12:20 am
Can somebody clear up the significance of the power summit event and why it was so pivotal in their relationship, aside from the grown man attire
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April 28th, 2009 at 2:40 am
wow dame called it they stealin jay soon after jay is at def jam…shouts to dame keep hustlin my nigga
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April 28th, 2009 at 7:42 am
ONE WORD…KARMA
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April 28th, 2009 at 8:41 am
“Niggaz wasn’t playing they day role
So we parted ways like Ben and J-Lo
I shoulda been did it but I been in a daze though
I put friends over business end of the day though
But when friends, business interests’ day-glow
Ain’t nothing left to say though
I guess we forgot what we came fo’
Shoulda stayed in food and beverage
Too much flossing
Too much Sam Ralstein
I ain’t a bitch but I gotta divorce them
Hov have to get the shallow shit up off him
And I ain’t even want to be famous
Niggaz is brainless to unnecessarily go through these changes
And I ain’t even know how it came to this
Except that fame is
The worst drug known to man
It’s stronger than, heroin
When you could look in the mirror like, “There I am”
And still not see, what you’ve become
I know I’m guilty of it too but, not like them
You lost one”
RIP ROCAFELLA DYNASTY
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Nene Mack Reply:
January 26th, 2011 at 4:48 pm
That’s Nice~
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April 28th, 2009 at 9:31 am
felt sorry for the woman, dont think she expected that reaction from dame
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April 28th, 2009 at 9:32 am
@ Sumone
Sorry, your attempt at comedy or sarcasm didn’t go to well. Not sure why my comment touched u so personally since I don’t know you nor did I address you but I’ll play along.
So what are you doing to advance “the cause of black executive power” besides talking shit on a pc hmmm????
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April 28th, 2009 at 9:40 am
I just KNOW y’all ain’t talkin’ bout me…
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April 28th, 2009 at 9:59 am
Whta ya’ll need to realize is this. Dame maybe to the one to be more vocal but please understand this, it was Jay doing all the sneaky things behind closed door. You must understand in this music business you have to be like Dame or esle get ate up by the corporate labels. And all Dame was doing was looking out for his artist. But Jay knew about the meeting because he was doing shady ish behind Dame’s back.
Think about it like this, lets say you are managing an artist then you find out there was a meeting about your artist by the label without your knowledge how would you feel.
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April 28th, 2009 at 12:23 pm
I WENT TO GET HI SCHOOL(MANHATTEN CENTER)WIT DAME AND AINT NUTIN CHANGED. FUNNIEST DUDE WEN HES MADDD. THIS DUDE HAD JOKES SUN, NAH MEAN? THESE CATS WOULD PUT STACKS OF MONEY ON DA FLOOR WEN DA BELL RANG AND WOULD WAIT FOR SUM1 TO REACH DOWN AND THEN…KABONG! MY FIRST ARREST WAS FOR HIS ASS, TRYN TA STEAL A TRIPLE BEAM OUT DA SCIENCE LAB. 89 WAS A GREAT YEAR.
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April 28th, 2009 at 12:26 pm
WHERE DA FORK DID I PUT MY DUTCH AT. IT WAS JUSS SITTING RYT HERE
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April 28th, 2009 at 1:08 pm
I AGREE THAT BOTH WERE SHADY FOR THE PARTS THEY PLAYED IN WRECKLESS ENDING OF ROCAFELLA…BOTH BROUGHT SOMETHING TO THE TABLE DEFINITELY…JAY-Z WAS THE STAR, AND DAME THE STRONG ARM. JAY-Z MADE IT QUITE OBVIOUS HE CAN’T RUN A LABEL, AND DAME HASN’T HAD A QUALITY ARIST SINCE JAY-Z
“BUT”…DAME LET THE FAME AND EGO TRIP CORRUPT THE PURPOSE OF THE MOVEMENT…WHILE HE WAS DOING HIS “DAME” DANCE AND POURING HIS VODKA…DUDE FORGOT HOW TO BE HUMBLE AND FOCUS ON WHAT WAS IMPORTANT. I BLAME BOTH DAME, BIGGS, AND JAY FOR FORGETTING WHAT WAS IMPORTANT…SHOULD HAVE STAYED IN FOOD AND BEVERAGE
Datruth Says:
April 28th, 2009 at 9:59 am
Whta ya’ll need to realize is this. Dame maybe to the one to be more vocal but please understand this, it was Jay doing all the sneaky things behind closed door. You must understand in this music business you have to be like Dame or esle get ate up by the corporate labels. And all Dame was doing was looking out for his artist. But Jay knew about the meeting because he was doing shady ish behind Dame’s back.
Think about it like this, lets say you are managing an artist then you find out there was a meeting about your artist by the label without your knowledge how would you feel.
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April 28th, 2009 at 1:13 pm
Cant see why there’s all the negative feedback going at dame for this. If nothing else he’s the dude you’d want in your corner. Seems like he has a little more integrity than jay, which “isnt” a good thing in the music biz. But at the end of the day that nigga can hold his head. he was riding for his cause and his brand.
jay before dame, no record deal, and after dame, urkel glasses and gray parachute pants (http://necolebitchie.com/2008/07/07/jay-z-is-stuntin-on-you-hs/jay-z-4).
Just not the same
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April 28th, 2009 at 1:43 pm
Nightfall:
Firstly, I hope you know what nightfall means. How embarrassing. Or perhaps I should say nappy headed hoe embarrassing.
Secondly, that smell? It’s your own shit on the keyboard. You took a dump this morning.
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April 28th, 2009 at 2:08 pm
Why the negative feedback?
Because…nowhere at no time (and especially not on the job) do you yell at adults! Or children for that matter.
You are in a professional environment, and you get your point across by talking and not yelling. Whether he’s looking out for his artist…
As the guy said, he sent him an e-mail. Now, had he called Dame phone and Dame didn’t answer, he would’ve said:”Well you should’ve sent me an e-mail”
Dame is not looking for his artists. Dame is looking out for himself because those artist bring him more money. Fact is that most who know Jigga don’t even know who Dame is. They never will.
At least Puff has done albums and clothes, etc and hooks. What does Dame do???
Seriously now.
Sit down Dame. You are the weakest link…goodbye
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April 28th, 2009 at 3:25 pm
beanoo617 Says:
April 28th, 2009 at 1:13 pm
Cant see why there’s all the negative feedback going at dame for this. If nothing else he’s the dude you’d want in your corner. Seems like he has a little more integrity than jay, which “isnt” a good thing in the music biz. But at the end of the day that nigga can hold his head. he was riding for his cause and his brand.
jay before dame, no record deal, and after dame, urkel glasses and gray parachute pants (http://necolebitchie.com/2008/07/07/jay-z-is-stuntin-on-you-hs/jay-z-4).
Just not the same
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LMAO!! is it me or that dude behind jay biting his lips. I will never look at jay the same again, i’ll now look at him as a homo suspect. real talk don’t let being married to beyonce aka bey-once foo you
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April 28th, 2009 at 6:20 pm
@ Sumone
No attempt at answering the question and still laughing at your own bad jokes?I was actually hoping you had something legitimate to says. Oh well.
Smh @ stealing IMUS material.Carry on the moment has passed.
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April 28th, 2009 at 6:30 pm
DARKAQUA Says:
April 28th, 2009 at 8:41 am
“Niggaz wasn’t playing they day role
So we parted ways like Ben and J-Lo
I shoulda been did it but I been in a daze though
I put friends over business end of the day though
But when friends, business interests’ day-glow
Ain’t nothing left to say though
I guess we forgot what we came fo’
Shoulda stayed in food and beverage
Too much flossing
Too much Sam Ralstein
I ain’t a bitch but I gotta divorce them
Hov have to get the shallow shit up off him
And I ain’t even want to be famous
Niggaz is brainless to unnecessarily go through these changes
And I ain’t even know how it came to this
Except that fame is
The worst drug known to man
It’s stronger than, heroin
When you could look in the mirror like, “There I am”
And still not see, what you’ve become
I know I’m guilty of it too but, not like them
You lost one”
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
wheres this from?
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Roamn Reply:
December 16th, 2009 at 7:22 am
“Lost ones” featuring Chrisette Michelle
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April 28th, 2009 at 8:14 pm
Dame f’d up when he named Cam president behind Jay z back!!I like Dame and Cam but that was bullshit
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April 28th, 2009 at 11:34 pm
Damn, you can see that Dame had a moment of clarity when he was told that Jay was doing the concert in PR. That really musta been a blow after he just went to bat for him at Def Jam when he thought they were trying to screw his man over. To learn about that the way he did…… Ouch!!
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April 29th, 2009 at 9:46 am
dame is real business man sometime you have to spaz on someone
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April 29th, 2009 at 6:55 pm
They did dame dirty he was at a funeral and come back to hear this. Come on, where the respect? They don’t know how to conduct business. They needed to get spaz on. After jay first album they knew jay would be a cash cow.I’m glad choke showed the world the industry under handed tactics.
LMAO@ nappy headed hoe… i can’t believe people get mad over words from a computer screen.I mean it was a cheap shot to say the less least.Someone needs to do a research with the word “nigga” and see how many people are physically hurt or killed from the word being used at them .Stupid childish comments like that should be just ignored like when a junkie curses you out for not giving him change.The funny thing about us black people (yes meaning i as well) we created these words and can’t take it when someone from another color launches back at us. There is a word you call people when you do that um let me see….hypocrite! Fuck it though , i guess this is what blogging all about. Talking shit from the cheap seats enough said then continue ….
Ps. To choke please stop fucking rapping at the beginning and the end of your footage.You don’t got it, stay true to what your good at. Filming rare hip hop footage moments.It looks like cheap marketing tricks. Damn, i had to get that off my chest. Yall wanna argue about something? Argue about something that involves hip hop … not racial slurs.
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Roamn Reply:
December 16th, 2009 at 7:24 am
Haha cosign this whole shit… ESPECIALLY the “ps”!
HAHAHA Choke flow a joke!
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April 30th, 2009 at 12:45 am
MISS INFO WILL YOU PLEASE REMEMBER THAT ” A LOT” IS TWO WORDS…TWO WORDS. A AND LOT.
PLEASE REMEMBER.
YOU’VE BEEN MAKING THAT GRAMMATICAL ERROR SINCE YOU STARTED THE BLOG.
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April 30th, 2009 at 6:58 am
I have to be honest. Love or Hate Dame, he stood up for what he believed. I will never say anything negative about Jay. I just have a ton of respect for Dame though. I wish most people fought for their artist like that, instead of tap dancin’ all over the place.
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May 12th, 2009 at 7:57 pm
@streetpoet
If you don’t feel the music skip it and watch the video. I do the music because that’s how I express my stress. Some like it, some don’t. I do it for me not for records sales or for people to like me. I know my strong points. I saw Jay-Z tell Kanye stop rapping for him and play the beats and now Kanye out sells Jay-Z. I’ll be a fool to listen to you.
You can go cop that Soldier Boy or Bow Wow I’m sure that’s more to your liking. Thanks for the compliment on my work as a producer/director. I had people hate on my work as a producer/director and I didn’t stop and I’m doing well. So you are pushing me to work to get better with the rap skills. Thanks for your motivation.
Much love,
Choke No Joke
http://www.myspace.com/chokenojokemixtape
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