Thu 7 Jan 2010
Chaos & Carnage on Late Night TV: Leno back on at 11:30, Conan and Fallon?
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What a hot stinking mess….and the rot started back around February of last year, when Conan O’Brien inherited the Tonight Show on NBC. And Jay Leno left in a flurry of fawning farewells…except that then suddenly, NBC announced that Jay Leno wasn’t riding off into the sunset in an antique car….in fact, he was getting a primetime slot for a Jay Leno variety show…which sounded exactly like the Tonight Show with Jay Leno, except that it had 30% more stupid skit time, and played during the time that we normally got to watch a scripted sitcom or drama series (which is way more expensive to produce…hmm, what a coincidink. Remember Tina Fey’s subliminal diss at the Emmy’s?).
All this NBC action sent rivals and viewers into a tizzy. We kind of thought Conan would benefit from his big bump up to LA. We thought Leno was just getting a cushy gig to ease him out of our lives. We thought Jimmy Fallon and the Roots would be edgy and youthful on the Late Night slot. We thought Carson Daly would finally go away. Meanwhile Jimmy Kimmel thought about moving up to 11:35 and deading Nightline. And Letterman thought, now is probably a good time to not have any more bypass surgery, and dust off that intern sex scandal (just keeding).
So…how’s that working out for us? Well, Conan is stale and inexplicably un-awesome. Fallon is painfully corny and annoying apologetic (The Roots seemed to humor him like a visiting relative). Kimmel is Kimmel (pretty funny in a fratboy way). I still have no need to remember that Irish Scottish guy’s name. And Letterman is back to feeling himself, watching the drama around him.
That drama got even crazier today….first there was a rumor that NBC had given up on that awful Leno primetime show. But no, that would be too good to be true. Instead, TMZ reported that Leno is taking a hiatus, and then, come February 1….he’s not only coming back, but he’s taking the 11:30pm time slot!?!!
Which means, either Leno will only get 30minutes to yap his maw. And then The Tonight Show with Conan O’Brien will start at midnight…hmm. Or…Conan will get the boot…*gasp.*
Is it possible that we’ll end up with the Jay Leno then Fallon then Carson Daly? Blech! Or will Leno nativeamerican-give on Conan, and Conan nativeamerican-give on Fallon. I’m 100% sure Fallon won’t be able to nativeamerican give on Seth Meyers at SNL. Or…can Letterman thaw out a space in his heart for Conan to move over to CBS, and get rid of that Irish guy? All I know is…if Carson is left standing, he’s officially f–king for slots.
Related: Gawker had a hilarious breakdown of Conan’s less than enthusiastic response to Jay Leno’s retirement renege last year. and Tina’s sublim Leno diss after the jump
Tina Fey’s sublim NBC and Jay Leno diss…

January 7th, 2010 at 7:02 pm
I say f@#$ them all and bring back Arsenio…
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January 7th, 2010 at 7:07 pm
FUCK LENO CONANDOS THE MAN NOW!!!
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January 7th, 2010 at 7:11 pm
on the real get rid of leno..he is boring and wackkk…he is the reason southland got cancelled/move to TNT… which us Canadians dont get on cable….
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January 7th, 2010 at 7:17 pm
NBC messed up, period. Leno and Conan were both fine where they were. Being a Conan fan, I was glad that he was promoted to the Tonight Show but I was worried that his humor would change to accomodate the older audience. Which it did. But having Leno on at 10 is sinking the entire primetime schedule.
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Uptop Don Reply:
January 8th, 2010 at 2:02 pm
totally agreed! they were fine fam’…especially Conan! i fux widdem since i was like 9 or something…dude is funny naturally, the writing & craziness on the old show just boosted it! now they got him lookin like a clown…NBC failed. i dont think Conan did…we’ll see how this progresses! but yea i agree with other people the tonight show version of him is watered down n therefore wack!
lol@ the craig fergerson swipe info…yea dude is brutal! lmao
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January 7th, 2010 at 7:21 pm
F’ them, Daily Show & Colbert Report!!
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th!z Reply:
January 7th, 2010 at 7:47 pm
seriously.. they offer more than any of these fools do put together.. i was just about to comment this literally
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bboycult Reply:
January 7th, 2010 at 8:22 pm
I’m on board w/this ^ as well.
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th!z Reply:
January 7th, 2010 at 9:02 pm
i seriously wish more of this country watched The Daily Show/Colbert.. just so people knew what the hell was going on around them every day. At this point they are way more informative than the evening news or newspapers, and painfully more hilarious than jay leno ever was
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January 7th, 2010 at 7:56 pm
i knew this would happen. conan minus the masterbating bear, vomiting kermit, pimpbot 5000, and the little known shoeverine is not conan at all. conan watered himself down. i haven’t watched his show since the first 10 minutes of his tonight show takeover. leno is leno. old people love him and he works. the problem with conan is where does he go now? he killed his old persona and faked a new one. does he just go back to dik and arse jokes? seems fake if he does. i only watch kimmel. they should’ve given jimmy the tonight show.
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Miss Info Reply:
January 7th, 2010 at 8:08 pm
shoeverine!
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Evil_D Reply:
January 9th, 2010 at 3:43 am
I was with you until you went full retard with the Kimmel to the Tonight show nonsense.Kimmel should be taken off television completely.
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January 7th, 2010 at 8:01 pm
Yeah Conan changed. I personally never thought Fallon was funny and he just s*cked off the right executive. Yeah Conan and Letterman would be a good team but Conan’s contract is not up with NBC and doubt those heartless followers would give in to CBS. I never thought Leno was bad-just too cookie cutter. He should take his millions and ride into eternal stand-up gig circuit that he has had as a side-job for years… Carson Daly-smh-? He is a serious contender for Late Night? There must be a thousand other NY/LA/Chicago comedians who would be better. As far as late night and edginess goes-it’s an oxymoron. The Scottish guy is not horrible and I do prefer him over Fallon, but yeah could do without. But my late nights go to TV Land now.
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January 7th, 2010 at 8:22 pm
Never like Leno he’s old and not funny. Conan and Jimmy are fucking awesome!! Thats it
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January 7th, 2010 at 8:36 pm
I wish they’d 86 Letterman and move Craig Furguson to the 11:30 slot! Craig is so much more funny than Leno & Letterman & Conan combined!
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January 7th, 2010 at 8:45 pm
can we get rid of monique and george lopez too?
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F.O Reply:
January 8th, 2010 at 9:39 pm
LOL Co-sizzle
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January 7th, 2010 at 8:58 pm
I saw this coming to. Leno’s show has been crickets since it started. Even when he sideswiped Kanye with that Mama question. SMH…
Like Sheist said, Leno should step off and do the stand-up touring thing or build some new projects for himself or other comics. I see him going back to 11:30 backfiring & making NBC look like asses.
Conan should stay in the Tonight Show slot and hire new writers. Clean humor doesn’t always equate to bad humor. Sure he can’t go back to Pimpbot and Masturbating Bear. But if he gets some solid comics in his corner he might be able to salvage his new format.
Fallon needs to stay put. He’s not the funniest and can seem awkward, apologetic and even somewhat of a kiss ass at times. But he’s got this self-depricating, insecure persona that works. Some of his skits (Obama Expressions, Local Affiliates, Letters Home, Freestyling the News) actually work. I think he just needs to use ?uestlove more like Letterman does his bandleader and bounce jokes off him. Fallon’s already getting way better ratings than Conan did his first season. In fact Conan was pretty close to getting cancelled at one point early on in Late Night.
Craig Ferguson, Carson Daly and Jimmy Kimmel don’t belong on late night. But then again I’m not big on Scottish humor, Frat jokes or ex-MTV VJ tools.
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January 7th, 2010 at 9:07 pm
I repeat… Craig Ferguson is wack. Awkward as all hell.
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January 7th, 2010 at 9:54 pm
Jimmy Fallon is god awful. I swear everytime he tells a joke he only gets a couple nervous laughs.
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January 7th, 2010 at 10:13 pm
I can’t believe no one likes Craig Furguson!! I’ll admit his show/skits are horrible but he gives the best damn interviews on late night. He throws away the cards and interacts with his guests and most of the time hits on the actresses lol
I guess I like him because he is completely unscripted and inappropriate which is fun.
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Miss Info Reply:
January 7th, 2010 at 10:26 pm
should I give him a chance?
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Anonymous Reply:
January 8th, 2010 at 1:41 am
No. Spare yourself. Ferguson is a waste of time. The fact that he’s unscripted is not a plus, because he’s not skilled at improvising anything and comes off as a bumbling ass have the time.
I dunno, maybe its someone’s brand of humor… smh
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January 7th, 2010 at 11:23 pm
Politically correct: “native American give”
Historically correct” white man give”
Anyhoo, late night has been dead for years. Fallon is better than ambein. The interview is the meat of any late night program, unfortunately the guests are either incredibly boring or it’s so obviously a marketing promotion for whatever product that i’d rather watch a law and order episode for the thousand time.
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Miss Info Reply:
January 7th, 2010 at 11:28 pm
LOL. very true.
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th!z Reply:
January 7th, 2010 at 11:57 pm
wouldnt “white man give” be to take and then (kindasorta) give back?
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Miss Info Reply:
January 8th, 2010 at 1:38 am
LOL
January 7th, 2010 at 11:29 pm
lmao @ “if Carson is left standing, he’s officially f–king for slots”
[pause]
true.
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AO Reply:
January 8th, 2010 at 10:55 pm
LOL…Out of the whole bunch, Kimmel is the only one that’s still funny.
Conan was funny in his old slot. Now he’s “prime-timed” himself. Weak.
Leno’s monologue WAS funny in the 11:30 slot, now, not so much.
Fallon is God-awful. He lost me at hello.
Ferguson is pretty funny in a ” I can’t watch this shit every night” sorta way.
Letterman is Letterman. Never been crazy about his show but I’ll watch from time to time.
Carson should be thrown down steps.
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January 7th, 2010 at 11:32 pm
I actually like Conan, he just looks funny. I think it’s the hair cute. But Jimmy Fallon can jump of a bridge. The Worst part is when the first segment of the show when he read of those flashcards and no one laughs at his jokes. Carson daily is so 2001 and needs to get a life.
That is all.
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January 8th, 2010 at 10:42 am
Its all about chelsey lately son!
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Evil_D Reply:
January 9th, 2010 at 3:48 am
Chelsea Handler is not funny, and only has a job because she f**king the boss.No really, she actually is dating the head of E! Entertainment.He’s like 20 years older than her, sickening.
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January 8th, 2010 at 1:10 pm
Damn Miss Info, such a hater. Have you even watched Craig Ferguson’s (Scottish guy) show? Like, a full episode? He’s very charming and entertaining. And he’s funnier than Letterman.
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January 8th, 2010 at 3:11 pm
last time i saw the ratings, the “irish guy” was beating everyone other than Letterman in late night…not that i watch him, but i like to keep up with the latenight battle somewhat.
and Carson needs to lose a job outta all this…his mess of a show has been on wayyyy too long, its like the Simpsons of garbage late night…
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X4 Reply:
January 8th, 2010 at 3:43 pm
Funny thing is that the “Irish guy” everyone keeps referring to (Craig Ferguson) is actually Scottish. Ferguson has never been a big contender in the latenight cirquit and only recently beat out Late Night (Fall 09) for the first quarter since he started.
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Miss Info Reply:
January 8th, 2010 at 3:54 pm
yeah I changed it. I did hear that he beat Conan once.
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G.M. Reply:
January 8th, 2010 at 4:05 pm
coulda sworn i heard he came up big in the ratings since the shakeup…something about him and letterman being the two big winners out of everything, Letterman at 1 and Ferguson at 2..
and yeahhh he’s not irish,thats why i ” ” ..and yeahh you changed it, i just felt like being a hater for a minute..
havent commented on anything in a while, just wanted to say keep up the good work and all that Inf, its ‘preciated per usual
-G
January 8th, 2010 at 3:20 pm
Craig Ferguson is simply amazing. There’s nothing like him on television.Carlson Daily isn’t bad. He does a good show for super late at night. Conan O’ Brien I think is very funny, but not sure if it’s oddball humor works well for the show that kicks off the late night. Jay Leno’s new show seems like left off Tonight Show.David Letterman is solid. George Lopez is the family friendly version of the late night talk show. Jimmy Fallon is also solid. Not the best, but not horrible either.
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January 8th, 2010 at 9:42 pm
LMFAO @ Jay Leno’s face in the pic…where r they manufacturing these ppl???
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January 9th, 2010 at 12:08 am
miss info.im native american. and you can say indian give. native american give sounds kinda lame.your p.c.ing a term that is still kinda racist despite the propering of indian to native american. i dont mind. i find stereo types funny. unless you only said it to be specific that it was indeed the native americans that gave and took back and are making sure it will NOT be confused with east indians. lol that would be even more funny. just letting you know. indan.. is ok to say.
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Miss Info Reply:
January 9th, 2010 at 4:12 am
lol ok….i think you’re right. I was more making fun of the un-pc-ness of the term to begin with.
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January 10th, 2010 at 8:10 pm
jimmy fallon is the most unfunny guy on Late Night. i couldnt smile watching his show high. The Roots rock though.
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January 12th, 2010 at 2:44 pm
Monique has the best guest and shows for some time now, Lopez is funny, Kimmel is the best at night though
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