Tue 2 Dec 2008
10 Years Later: UTFO tongues down The Real Roxanne
Posted by Miss Info under beef , good for hip hop , old music , photos , relationships and family[30] Comments
What lies 10 years from now for our current crop of beefing rappers?
The future is a huggable one, people. Plan accordingly.
(photo by Kenya Smith)
Here’s what my twitpal Alyse from said:
“Twenty-five years after the release of UTFO’s “Roxanne, Roxanne”, the most famous Hip-Hop romantic pursuit has finally come to an end as lead member Kangol Kid makes up/out with The Real Roxanne. After 10 years of “Beef”, the two had not spoken until last week at a show in New York where the olive branch was delivered and sealed with what appears to be more than a friendly kiss. Hip-Hop now has its happy ending!”
To the experts: what was the beef between Kangol and The Real Roxanne about? I wasn’t up on that part of the saga. They had a falling out 10 years ago?
Backstory to the Roxanne song (and hilarious voiceover) after the jump….
UPDATE: another photo of Real Roxanne and Kangol as well…
(love Roxanne Shante by the way, lol. She’s so dope)
(and the random Bishop Don Magic Juan shot is priceless too)
December 2nd, 2008 at 7:32 pm
YO this nigga still got on a Kango. niggas stop wearing them shits since 87.
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Mortimer Valdez Reply:
November 10th, 2009 at 5:35 pm
So what….and its Kangol, not Kango.
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old skule brutha Reply:
September 13th, 2011 at 3:53 pm
You tell ‘em. He must not be down. Everything that was hot back then is coming back in style now. I saw a dude with a dookie gold rope chain on last month in Queens!!
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December 2nd, 2008 at 7:55 pm
Lemme try to sort this one out. Around 1998/9 do you remember when there was this resurgence of the Old School (?) and all of the 80’s acts showed up again and starting doing shows and tours?
Well, Full Force was busy producing for Platinum acts and boy bands so U.T.F.O. got together with The Real Roxanne to be an act and they were on MTV and BET’s Rap City, etc. making appearances.
I heard stuff that it had to do with her getting a (significantly) lower amount of show money than U.T.F.O. and the fact that she didn’t really write her own rhymes (she had ghostwriters and Chubb Rock wrote her entire last LP on Select Records) and that when they were in negotiations to record some tracks Kangol was gonna write her rhymes AND do production…no money for Roxanne! Plus they had some previous personal issues.
This is all rumor and some conjecture from shit I heard from industry heads around 10 years ago, mind you.
One.
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missinfo Reply:
December 2nd, 2008 at 8:36 pm
I KNEW YOU’D KNOW!
thank you : )
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December 2nd, 2008 at 8:10 pm
They only did it cuz they knew you’d post it
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missinfo Reply:
December 2nd, 2008 at 8:42 pm
ok so if I put it out there that I’m looking to post photos of an Apache/Nikki D makeout session, can we will that into happening??
Tht would be exciting
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Jimmy Lawson Reply:
April 9th, 2012 at 1:49 pm
What dif does it make?? It’s always good to see the old skool peeps who had REAL skillz. Would you rather see pics of Vanilla Ice????
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December 2nd, 2008 at 8:24 pm
But I thought “The Real Roxanne” was actually the fake Roxanne. I thought Roxanne Shante was the actual Real Roxanne.
How come this is still so confusing to me after all these years?
And why does Kane look like a sane ODB?
ps – even though the “Real” Roxanne was the fake one and also couldn’t rap for shit – I think she alone triggered my body to start going into puberty back then.
Was that TMI?
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December 2nd, 2008 at 8:29 pm
haha yea i remember seein this a while back.. that kiss definitely seems to have more behind it than ten years of silence.. probably a lot of grey goose and a more than horny has-been male rapper lol..
on another note info (and i hate when ppl change topics in blog comments but i value ur opinion) what do u think of the new Hov track “Brooklyn Go Hard”?
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missinfo Reply:
December 2nd, 2008 at 8:35 pm
you saw this a while back? It just happened on sat from what I hear
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December 2nd, 2008 at 8:32 pm
PAUSE i missed ur post on it ignore that comment
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December 2nd, 2008 at 10:50 pm
Hehehe
*emailing Nikki D now*
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Mortimer Valdez Reply:
November 10th, 2009 at 6:40 pm
Someone {uhmmm….named Ms Info} needs to get the scoop on her feelings about that Def Jam Hip Hop Honors. Nikki D was the first lady of Def Jam, right?Was she not invited?
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old skule brutha Reply:
September 13th, 2011 at 3:50 pm
Word man, u got Nikki’s email?? Ask her when she gonna make another song. It ain’t too many REAL rappers left no more.
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December 2nd, 2008 at 11:26 pm
nah i meant i saw the “Roxanne Battles” BEEF video clip a while ago.. poorly phrased lol my bad
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December 3rd, 2008 at 12:49 am
>>”To the experts: what was the beef between Kangol and The Real Roxanne about? I wasn’t up on that part of the saga. They had a falling out 10 years ago?”<<
Miss Info = Always Keen
“twitpal Alyse”:
Please explain..
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December 3rd, 2008 at 1:14 am
Bishop Don Juan: why so serious?
The voiceover dude sounds like Keith David from Dead Prez movie. dude with the fake leg lol.
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missinfo Reply:
December 3rd, 2008 at 3:35 am
I’m positive it is!!! Isnt he also the voiceover for a insurance commercial, or is that the guy who used to be the president on 24
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Mortimer Valdez Reply:
November 10th, 2009 at 6:41 pm
i guess they took over where James Earl Jones left off
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December 3rd, 2008 at 1:22 am
well, the 25 year long beef was between utfo and roxanne *shante*. the real roxanne used to work with utfo, as your beef documentary snippet explains. your friend above gives out the science about a falling out between utfo and the real roxanne *10* years ago, so the headline to this story needs to be changed before people think your entry is referring to roxanne shante.
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missinfo Reply:
December 3rd, 2008 at 3:32 am
thank you! good call
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December 3rd, 2008 at 1:30 am
Wow, Apache & Nikki D making out would be phenomenal.
I remember there was a big deal made about Nikki D being the first woman ever signed to Def Jam. MTV would run this little informational segment on her before they played her video.
I also remember how lots of girls got all thugged out after seeing that “Gangster Bitch” video.
INFO – did you adopt the “Murder Minya” moniker before or after “Gangsta Bitch” dropped?
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missinfo Reply:
December 3rd, 2008 at 3:31 am
HAHAA….actually Murder Minya was a nickname from the Ego Trip boys because I lived in Harlem and I was pals with Mase, lol
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December 3rd, 2008 at 12:01 pm
Oh! Minya! I was like she knows her hip hop history. I used to see that name in many hip hop mags back in the day… explains everything.
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December 3rd, 2008 at 8:50 pm
Wow..
funny thing is.. after all these years of loving that song.. I can remember being a kid and pissed off that none of these cats could bag her up..
and now umpteen years later.. closure.. ahh
pssst.. Even though Kangol is my homie.. I was always rooting for EMD.
NYOIL approves that message
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December 3rd, 2008 at 9:54 pm
wow am i the only one that thought that dude was ja rule at first??
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November 2nd, 2009 at 8:25 pm
In response to the “isn’t the Real Roxanne the fake Roxanne” question…
… Roxanne Shante made the first response record to Roxanne, Roxanne. After hearing it UTFO auditioned a girl by the name of Elease Jack for the part of their Roxanne and she record the record the Real Roxanne. From what I have been able to gather so far, Select Records dropped Elease because she was only 14 years old. UTFO then auditioned Adelaida Martinez to play the part of Roxanne for the Roxanne, Roxanne video. She became known as the Real Roxanne from then on. But she was not the one who was on the original track. She didn’t release an album as The Real Roxanne until 1998.
So, yes, the rapper known as the Real Roxanne is not the original Roxanne.
The song Roxanne Roxanne was not about any of the Roxanne’s who actually made records. Roxanne Shante made her diss record, Roxanne’s Revenge, as a response to UTFO cancelling a show with Marley Marl.
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July 29th, 2010 at 11:56 pm
no! no! NO! who ever keep saying nikki D WAS THE FIRST FEMALE RAPPER ON DEF JAM THAT IS A LIE! I KEEP HEARING THIS CRAP! IT WAS BO$$ A FEMALE RAPPER FROM DETROIT AND SHE WAS BETTER THAN MOST DUDES SHE COULD SPIT THAT GANGSTA SHYT! CHECK HER ALBUM OUT -BORN GANGSTAZ. SHE WAS THE BEST FEMALE RAPPER EVER!!!
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BoriquaDelite Reply:
November 1st, 2010 at 9:44 pm
Actually you are WRONG!!! Nikki D. was signed to Def Jam before Bo$$. Nikki was signed around 1988/89ish when she appeared on Def Jam label mate r&b singer Alyson Williams song “My Love is Raw”. In 1990 she went on to release her first single “Lettin off steam” and in 91 her full album “Daddy’s Little Girl”. Bo$$ hadn’t released her first single on Def Jam West until mid to late 92 “I don’t give a fuck” she did however earlier in 91 appear on AMG album. Nikki D. Is infact the first female rapper signed to Def Jam.
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